Sevco go to town

[Donegal Hibby]

I see they are digging their heels in again even though they are once again wrong. Typical Daily Record article too in saying the ball looked clearly over the line and further in the article says appeared to be over the line . Don’t you just love it when that shower are unhappy and feel aggrieved about something 😆…

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-go-town-sfa-seven-35395736

[jakedance]

I’ve still not seen a photo that proves it was over the line. The fact the SFA panel think a goal should be awarded because it looks like it might have crossed the line is far more evidence of corruption than anything Sevco are whinging about.

[BH Hibs]

Yet they wanted Hibs done when Irvine Welsh called them Sticky Buns on Hibs TV. Irvine summed them up perfectly as professional victims the day after.

[NAE NOOKIE]

It was an incident in a game that had absolutely nothing riding on it, an end of season dead rubber. If it's that bloody important to them, then they can get their new masters to pay for goal line technology in the premiership :greengrin

[matty_f]

**** Rangers. Actually detest that club.

[I'm_cabbaged]

**** Rangers. Actually detest that club.

I concur

[ancient hibee]

I’ve still not seen a photo that proves it was over the line. The fact the SFA panel think a goal should be awarded because it looks like it might have crossed the line is far more evidence of corruption than anything Sevco are whinging about.

The SFA panel has no standing and is mainly a group of people getting a late pay day and often seems to contain members who don’t actually know the Laws of the Game.

[Baader]

Daily Record, the Hun Pravda.

[EdinMike]

Well, if they’re not going to win any trophies this season you’ll be damn right they’re winning the statement league !

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think it probably was over the line.

Which I absolutely love. I only wish it had cost them something significant

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

The hierarchy must have no hope at all in Russell Martin if they are setting up smokescreens already. The only tangible corruption in Scottish Football was the way that the previous Rangers diddled the wage bill and they were suitably punished. Maybe they should pay for anger management courses for John Bomber Brown.

[tamig]

From the article -

Nico Raskin’s effort in the 2-2 last day of the Premiership season draw clearly looked over the line but referee Nick Walsh waved play on.

Hibs went up the pitch and scored, prompting Rangers TV co-commentator Brown to question the integrity of the decision.

Where’s the evidence showing it was clearly over the line? They can greet all they like.

[Kato]

The only tangible corruption in Scottish Football was the way that the previous Rangers diddled the wage bill and they were suitably punished.

I can't remember any punishment at all. The club/business were liquidated meaning they lost their licence but they were allowed to start the next in a very advantageous position, that wasn't a punishment.

All their diddled trophies are still in the record books.

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[Kato]

From the article -

Nico Raskin’s effort in the 2-2 last day of the Premiership season draw clearly looked over the line but referee Nick Walsh waved play on.

Hibs went up the pitch and scored, prompting Rangers TV co-commentator Brown to question the integrity of the decision.

Where’s the evidence showing it was clearly over the line? They can greet all they like.Like most right-wing institutions in the UK they are deluded, entitled and more than a tad swivel eyed. If more people just laughed at their antics and went about their business we'd all be better off.

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[Hibbyradge]

**** Rangers. Actually detest that club.

Not strong enough.

[GloryGlory]

I see they are digging their heels in again even though they are once again wrong. Typical Daily Record article too in saying the ball looked clearly over the line and further in the article says appeared to be over the line . Don’t you just love it when that shower are unhappy and feel aggrieved about something 😆…

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-go-town-sfa-seven-35395736

Honest to God you'd think they'd lost the league by one goal on goal difference they way they go on, rather than ended up in exactly the same position they would have ended up in, anyway.

[Smartie]

I’ve still not seen a photo that proves it was over the line. The fact the SFA panel think a goal should be awarded because it looks like it might have crossed the line is far more evidence of corruption than anything Sevco are whinging about.

It was actually a decent opportunity to have a sensible debate.

The images used to assist with making those big decisions in our home games with Celtic and Rangers were atrocious.

It’s lucky really that the decisions didn’t end up significantly impacting on anything.

It shouldn’t be hard to get right - the ball is definitively in or out but I don’t think either situation was conclusive one way or the other based on the available evidence.

The narrative should be that we’ve got to give the officials the best chance possible to get these decisions right because we’re not doing that right now. Instead it’s been a pitiful orgy of paranoia and victimhood from 2 rancid institutions and their followers who live for this sort of utter drivel.

Both were great games, should have been considered good Scottish football spectacles and they just end up being forgotten amidst pointless tedium.

[matty_f]

I talked about gaslighting with the Celtic and Dundee United decisions that went for us, where the narrative was that you couldn’t tell and that the video evidence was inconclusive.

Now we have “clearly over the line” and no question about whether it was or wasn’t.

Again, it’s gaslighting - we’re just given the narrative that Rangers have been wronged, almost to the point where they’re suggesting Brown was correct to call the SFA corrupt.

[BILLYHIBS]

It was actually a decent opportunity to have a sensible debate.

The images used to assist with making those big decisions in our home games with Celtic and Rangers were atrocious.

It’s lucky really that the decisions didn’t end up significantly impacting on anything.

It shouldn’t be hard to get right - the ball is definitively in or out but I don’t think either situation was conclusive one way or the other based on the available evidence.

The narrative should be that we’ve got to give the officials the best chance possible to get these decisions right because we’re not doing that right now. Instead it’s been a pitiful orgy of paranoia and victimhood from 2 rancid institutions and their followers who live for this sort of utter drivel.

Both were great games, should have been considered good Scottish football spectacles and they just end up being forgotten amidst pointless tedium.
:rolleyes:

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[Smartie]

:rolleyes:

https://i.ibb.co/93bNshCZ/9-BB44-F1-E-20-F1-4-D81-9383-18-C643-FD94-DF.jpg (https://ibb.co/jZyTgz1J)

That’s my point though.

Looking right down the line, if there’s daylight like that between the ball and the line, you know it’s out.

At an angle, it’s guesswork.

We all have our opinions - my opinion is that it’s out, based on that picture.

But I wouldn’t say it’s anything like definitive.

[BILLYHIBS]

That’s my point though.

Looking right down the line, if there’s daylight like that between the ball and the line, you know it’s out.

At an angle, it’s guesswork.

We all have our opinions - my opinion is that it’s out, based on that picture.

But I wouldn’t say it’s anything like definitive.

It’s definitive it is definitely out that was why VAR overruled it yet to see a definitive image showing the whole ball was over the line in The Rangers goal incident

[tamig]

It’s definitive it is definitely out that was why VAR overruled it yet to see a definitive image showing the whole ball was over the line in The Rangers goal incident

Its not. The pic is taken from a position left of the line. Until you see it from a camera in line, its still speculative. It does look as if its out - but its not conclusive.

[Tambo]

Wonder how long into the new season it will take for a statement.

[BILLYHIBS]

Its not. The pic is taken from a position left of the line. Until you see it from a camera in line, its still speculative. It does look as if its out - but its not conclusive.

Aye ok

I sit in the West South and that is the image burnt into my brain it was out trust me

Suck it up Brenda

Edit

Willie Gollum said the goal should have stood as it was not conclusive but audio from the match seems to point to the AVAR finding a better angle and making a factual decision based on that wonder if they are still in a job ? 😀

https://i.ibb.co/5XS5FKFF/IMG-3602.png (https://ibb.co/zWBSJ6JJ)

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[lyonhibs]

I think it probably was over the line.

Which I absolutely love. I only wish it had cost them something significant

It was definitely a goal, let's be fair. But then again, **** them and their self-entitled word salad statements.

[ChicoM1875]

It was probably a goal.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[tamig]

Aye ok

I sit in the West South and that is the image burnt into my brain it was out trust me

Suck it up Brenda

Edit

Willie Gollum said the goal should have stood as it was not conclusive but audio from the match seems to point to the AVAR finding a better angle and making a factual decision based on that wonder if they are still in a job ? 😀

https://i.ibb.co/5XS5FKFF/IMG-3602.png (https://ibb.co/zWBSJ6JJ)

https://i.ibb.co/394zgWTQ/IMG-3603.png (https://ibb.co/21WNGPFH)

Lol. There was no better angle. Its pie in the sky. If there was a better angle we’d all have seen it. Collum would certainly have had access to anything / if it existed. Our VAR system here is pretty pish. Its far from infallible and is probably used more up here for subjective points than to rule on factual matters.

[BILLYHIBS]

Lol. There was no better angle. Its pie in the sky. If there was a better angle we’d all have seen it. Collum would certainly have had access to anything / if it existed. Our VAR system here is pretty pish. Its far from infallible and is probably used more up here for subjective points than to rule on factual matters.

Agree all I want is for the correct decision to be made win lose or draw but we are gonna need better VAR more cameras goal line technology and automated offside pretty please

[gbhibby]

But there is conclusive evidence that he said it was corrupt.

[Kato]

But there is conclusive evidence that he said it was corrupt.They're like Violet Elizabeth-Bott.

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[gbhibby]

They're like Violet Elizabeth-Bott.

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Bonnie Langford Loyal.

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[matty_f]

Aye ok

I sit in the West South and that is the image burnt into my brain it was out trust me

Suck it up Brenda

Edit

Willie Gollum said the goal should have stood as it was not conclusive but audio from the match seems to point to the AVAR finding a better angle and making a factual decision based on that wonder if they are still in a job ? 😀

https://i.ibb.co/5XS5FKFF/IMG-3602.png (https://ibb.co/zWBSJ6JJ)

https://i.ibb.co/394zgWTQ/IMG-3603.png (https://ibb.co/21WNGPFH)

What’s mad, and where the gaslighting comes in, is that the VAR were looking at different angles, at first they can’t get one that gives them a view if the ball is out (in the transcript you can see they say it’s inconclusive) then they’re shown another angle and still frames and you can see they they reach a point where they can say the ball is out of play - again evidence by them saying they can see it’s out.

Collum *should* have backed the VAR in this instance instead of playing along with the narrative that they couldn’t tell.


But as he didn’t, when it came to this incident, VAR bottled making a call on it and Collum had to stick to his guns.

Edit: this was made more ridiculous by the VAR on the Belgium v Wales game disallowing a goal for the ball going out for a throw in without having to produce irrefutable evidence that it had, they used their eyes and the images.

[skipster7]

What’s mad, and where the gaslighting comes in, is that the VAR were looking at different angles, at first they can’t get one that gives them a view if the ball is out (in the transcript you can see they say it’s inconclusive) then they’re shown another angle and still frames and you can see they they reach a point where they can say the ball is out of play - again evidence by them saying they can see it’s out.

Collum *should* have backed the VAR in this instance instead of playing along with the narrative that they couldn’t tell.


But as he didn’t, when it came to this incident, VAR bottled making a call on it and Collum had to stick to his guns.

I agree, Collum has backed himself into a corner now.The same camera angles that now can't be used for goal line decisions can be used to rule a players toe nail offside an inch from the goal line apparently. Make it make sense.

[BILLYHIBS]

What’s mad, and where the gaslighting comes in, is that the VAR were looking at different angles, at first they can’t get one that gives them a view if the ball is out (in the transcript you can see they say it’s inconclusive) then they’re shown another angle and still frames and you can see they they reach a point where they can say the ball is out of play - again evidence by them saying they can see it’s out.

Collum *should* have backed the VAR in this instance instead of playing along with the narrative that they couldn’t tell.


But as he didn’t, when it came to this incident, VAR bottled making a call on it and Collum had to stick to his guns.

Edit: this was made more ridiculous by the VAR on the Belgium v Wales game disallowing a goal for the ball going out for a throw in without having to produce irrefutable evidence that it had, they used their eyes and the images.

Gollum threw the AVAR under the bus and the VAR review panel voted 4:1 that the Celtic goal should have stood ??

What chance have you got ?

Backed his VAR boys the next time it came along ( The Rangers Ghost Goal ) IIRC ?

[Eyrie]

It was probably a goal.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Probably over the line, but it was definitely a foul on Rocky before the ball even reached the goal line so no goal in a corruption free world.

The fact that the Huns are still upset about it is the cherry on top :greengrin

[erin go bragh]

2016 has done irreversible damage to them
Corruption 😂😂 This coming from a team that didn't get a penalty in the league awarded against them for 70 odd games.

[gbhibby]

Gollum threw the AVAR under the bus and the VAR review panel voted 4:1 that the Celtic goal should have stood ??

What chance have you got ?

Backed his VAR boys the next time it came along ( The Rangers Ghost Goal ) IIRC ?
Correct you should be backing up your colleagues for making a decision based on what they see. Had to laugh at Collum saying if the ball in the Rangers game had been on the ground the VAR could have made a decision. By not backing up his officials he has created this situation. The Aberdeen V Rangers game a linesman called a marginal decision similar to the Hibs Celtic game from 40 plus yards away with players and goalposts in the way therefore did not need to go to VAR
That's what happens when you pander to the panel.

[SHODAN]

Cringe

[Horse]

Not over the line and not too difficult to prove

[Donegal Hibby]

Honest to God you'd think they'd lost the league by one goal on goal difference they way they go on, rather than ended up in exactly the same position they would have ended up in, anyway.

You can see why they do get a lot of 50/50 decision as it probably less hassle for the officials and they know it . As for Brown on the corruption comment even the other commentator said to him at the time “ I don’t think we can actually say that” and Brown just went “ well I’m saying it “ Us going up the other end and scoring just added to the drama of it all perfectly 😂

[hibsboy07]

Well, if they’re not going to win any trophies this season you’ll be damn right they’re winning the statement league !

They always win the statement league

[BILLYHIBS]

75 League games without conceding a penalty 2022-24 defies belief logic and the laws of probability

On the cusp of a shock Scottish Cup defeat at home to Queens Park they were unbelievably awarded a late penalty in the 97th minute and blew it

[Bostonhibby]

Straightforward foul on Rocky to prevent him clearing the ball and, as the match referee ruled it never crossed the line so can't see what all the fuss is about.

Unless of course you are the relatively pointless "Bomber" Brown looking to be relevant amongst like minded huns.

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[SloopJB]

I complained to the bbc about their video entitled disallowed goal for rangers and they changed it.
Surprised by that.