Scotland v Iceland

[Trinity Hibee]

He should have been away after the Euros. It was really poor leading up to the Euros, really poor during them and it’s got worse since.

The approach in the Hungary game alone, when we had a chance to make history, should have seen him gone.

Unfortunately, there is no way they will make a change before the World Cup campaign and no way he’ll walk either.

Think you are right but we are essentially writing off the WC campaign if he stays. FWIW I can’t see us qualifying regardless

[number9dream]

I think we’re stuck with Clarke until the WC qualifiers are out of the way. If Moyes continues to do well at Everton, then who would take over?

There was no evidence of any kind of plan last night. Attitude also seemed like a big problem, which is a real worry. Not sure it’s as simple as the players not fancying an inconvenient, low profile friendly at the end of a busy season since it was a similar story at home to Greece.

[Trinity Hibee]

I think we’re stuck with Clarke until the WC qualifiers are out of the way. If Moyes continues to do well at Everton, then who would take over?

There was no evidence of any kind of plan last night. Attitude also seemed like a big problem, which is a real worry. Not sure it’s as simple as the players not fancying an inconvenient, low profile friendly at the end of a busy season since it was a similar story at home to Greece.

Think we are all more open to foreign managers than we were 20 years ago. Think we should bring someone in with a fresh approach

[BoomtownHibees]

Dear me, no thank you.

You wouldn’t take him??

[B.H.F.C]

Think we are all more open to foreign managers than we were 20 years ago. Think we should bring someone in with a fresh approach

Definitely don’t need to limit ourselves to someone Scottish. England have a German, Ireland have someone from Iceland. Even Brazil have just appointed their first ever non Brazilian manager. I don’t see any real outstanding Scottish candidates at the moment.

More players playing abroad now as well, they’ll be used to different methods and whatever. In fact, I reckon a lot of players would probably welcome it now.

Sadly, the SFA will stick with Clarke. And when he does eventually go, they won’t do anything outside the box.

[Colr]

TBH we were going really well until the prep for the Euros and **** since then.

Last night was bizarre, though. Is Clarke trying to get sacked?

[green day]

Just seen those goals, dear me its like amateur football.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Absolutely embarrassing performance.

[hhibs]

Keeper was poor but not a single senior player puts his arm round him at full time. This isn’t a team. It’s a collection of individuals. Really poor show.


Agreed, I actually was looking to see if any of our players did this,sadly, I did not.

As you say poor show.

[eastmainsmsh]

A friendly start with younger non capped but no Clarke baffling ffs poor young Gk actually feel sorry for laddie hope it won’t affect him and his progress

[bingo70]

Definitely don’t need to limit ourselves to someone Scottish. England have a German, Ireland have someone from Iceland. Even Brazil have just appointed their first ever non Brazilian manager. I don’t see any real outstanding Scottish candidates at the moment.

More players playing abroad now as well, they’ll be used to different methods and whatever. In fact, I reckon a lot of players would probably welcome it now.

Sadly, the SFA will stick with Clarke. And when he does eventually go, they won’t do anything outside the box.

In an ideal world we should be considering promoting the under 21 manager. Not always going to be a case but it should be one avenue we could source a new Scottish manager from.

Unfortunately they’ve allowed Scot Gemmill to underperform in that role with no accountability for years as well so he should be closer to getting his jotters than a promotion.

[The Modfather]

Not to try and defend Clark as agree with the general sentiment he has taken us as far as he can go and time for fresh ideas. As well as last night being as poor as the dark days under previous managers.

Just about everything that could go wrong did go wrong. On his selections though, his thinking was probably to use last night with the Denmark game in mind given only last night and the Liechtenstein game before then, which is then worrying in itself. Then rotate and give debuts in the Liechtenstein game. I think it’s also a bit unfair to criticise him for playing Slicker when he was likely there for the experience and you can’t legislate for losing both keepers in front of him within 7 minutes of the game starting.

That’s not to defend the indefensible though, last night was worryingly rudderless.

[Hibspur]

A friendly start with younger non capped but no Clarke baffling ffs poor young Gk actually feel sorry for laddie hope it won’t affect him and his progress

Didn't see the game (hadn't even been aware it was on tbh), but I've just read about this. You wouldn't bring an outfield player into the squad with so little experience and to throw that keeper into the mix was just ridiculous, irresponsible in fact.

Relieved to see Bowie was kept on the bench. We don't want him running any unnecessary injury risks.

[1875Sean]

I think we’re stuck with Clarke until the WC qualifiers are out of the way. If Moyes continues to do well at Everton, then who would take over?

There was no evidence of any kind of plan last night. Attitude also seemed like a big problem, which is a real worry. Not sure it’s as simple as the players not fancying an inconvenient, low profile friendly at the end of a busy season since it was a similar story at home to Greece.

Moyes has said he would love to manage his country at some point but I can’t see him leaving a better paid job at Everton, we would need to go in for him if he gets the sack

[Up-the-slope]

There is an odd thing about this in that all the main players pretty much turned up for 2 meaningless fixtures (remember the days of players seemingly picking and choosing which ones they bothered to turn up for) even after many having long seasons and the odd niggles..

But it was hard to work out whether they were knackered / disinterested / or badly set up... however the result was they looked like they had barely played together and the lack of width was so obvious from early on but never addressed. Again shoe horning in the two left backs now Tierney is back playing did not seem to help.

While Gunn's injury was unfortunate it did not seem much planning had gone into the scenario of a change being needed which was catastrophic.

Other than once the press was so un-coordinated with only 1's or 2's and not as a team leaving it easy for Iceland to pass round the 'shape'

I would have rather had a friendly like this as 2 different teams each half (planned and intimated in advance) taking opportunity to give 5 or 6 debuts and using different systems - then the result would be less relevant...

But when you start with your main players in 1 system and change little ( or not quickly enough ) then Clarke has to take the criticism that will come his way

[GreenPJ]

The only area of the pitch where we have the sufficient quality in depth is midfield and even then we are trying to cram 4 or 5 central midfielders into the total midfield - it is tough but you are not going to get the best out of McTominay playing him in a wide midfield position. Same with McGinn, I know he sometimes plays left midfield for Villa but think he is better in the middle pushed further forward. Gilmour has to be in the middle, still the most composed player we have. We are missing wider midfield players (particularly as Doak is out). Up front Bowie needs to get at least 30 mins against Lichtenstein. That lad from Ipswich has no footballing intelligence and can't hold the ball up. Adams and Dykes are not goal scorers (Adams has done well since moving to Torino but even then its 10 goals in 38 matches).

We don't have good enough defenders and yet we persist with this nonsense of playing the ball at pedestrian pace across the back.

We aren't blessed with a rich squad but he isn't getting anywhere near enough out of the players available and so for me has to go before the qualifiers start. Yes he has done well for Scotland albeit in times where more teams qualified for the Euro's than ever before but time for a change and a change in tactics, we need to move the ball quicker and have more attacking intent.

Still think though overall its ridiculous to have friendlies at the end of a long season and eating into players downtime and recovery.

[K-Zazu]

In an ideal world we should be considering promoting the under 21 manager. Not always going to be a case but it should be one avenue we could source a new Scottish manager from.

Unfortunately they’ve allowed Scot Gemmill to underperform in that role with no accountability for years as well so he should be closer to getting his jotters than a promotion.

Yeah the whole Scot Gemmill thing is a bit weird, seems like he’s had that gig for about 20 years.

[Pretty Boy]

A team of:

................Gordon.................

Hickey....McKenna......Tierney.....Robertson

.............Christie/Gilmour...............

Doak.........McGinnn.....Ferguson.....McTominay

...............Hirst/Dykes/A N Other

Should be competitive in qualifying. it's primarily players playing in the EPL, La Liga and Serie A. You have young lads like Patterson, Doig, Miller in the bench. Personally I'd go with Tierney over Robertson and LB and start Souttar or Hendry but Clarke won't make that decision. Christie has been a revelation played deep for Bournemouth and Ferguson further forward in Italy yet Clarke insisted on playing them the other way around a few games ago.

There are obvious problem areas but find a way to fit your best players playing regularly at the best level in the line up and go from there.

[The Modfather]

A team of:

................Gordon.................

Hickey....McKenna......Tierney.....Robertson

.............Christie/Gilmour...............

Doak.........McGinnn.....Ferguson.....McTominay

...............Hirst/Dykes/A N Other

Should be competitive in qualifying. it's primarily players playing in the EPL, La Liga and Serie A. You have young lads like Patterson, Doig, Miller in the bench. Personally I'd go with Tierney over Robertson and LB and start Souttar or Hendry but Clarke won't make that decision. Christie has been a revelation played deep for Bournemouth and Ferguson further forward in Italy yet Clarke insisted on playing them the other way around a few games ago.

There are obvious problem areas but find a way to fit your best players playing regularly at the best level in the line up and go from there.

Could McTominay be converted into a striker, as a needs must, like Merino was for Arsenal?

[number9dream]

A team of:

................Gordon.................

Hickey....McKenna......Tierney.....Robertson

.............Christie/Gilmour...............

Doak.........McGinnn.....Ferguson.....McTominay

...............Hirst/Dykes/A N Other

Should be competitive in qualifying. it's primarily players playing in the EPL, La Liga and Serie A. You have young lads like Patterson, Doig, Miller in the bench. Personally I'd go with Tierney over Robertson and LB and start Souttar or Hendry but Clarke won't make that decision. Christie has been a revelation played deep for Bournemouth and Ferguson further forward in Italy yet Clarke insisted on playing them the other way around a few games ago.

There are obvious problem areas but find a way to fit your best players playing regularly at the best level in the line up and go from there.

These games seemed like perfect opportunity to try Tierney as LCB in a back four, but Clarke is just not having it. Playing a third CB weakens our strongest area, although our ‘star’ midfielders were all terrible last night.
Christie must have been a bit fed up playing so well for Bournemouth then getting stuck out wide for Scotland.
McTominay has to be closer to whoever the striker is. Adams is no Lukaku but at least he plays at the same level, while Hirst looks like a downgrade on Dykes.

[ekhibee]

A friendly start with younger non capped but no Clarke baffling ffs poor young Gk actually feel sorry for laddie hope it won’t affect him and his progress

This.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke

[bingo70]

I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke

Good post.

IMO if you were to take away the financial consequences of someone losing their job or the compensation involved and have a good conversation between the SFA and Clarke about the best way forward, I would be surprised if they came to the conclusion that Clarke was the best man going forward. Just now he’s staying on because he’d love to take us to a World Cup and he probably, understandably feels he’s earned the right to give that a go. That doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to happen though.

I hope common sense prevails and he leaves sooner rather than later.

[Speedy]

Didn't see the game (hadn't even been aware it was on tbh), but I've just read about this. You wouldn't bring an outfield player into the squad with so little experience and to throw that keeper into the mix was just ridiculous, irresponsible in fact.

Relieved to see Bowie was kept on the bench. We don't want him running any unnecessary injury risks.

People seem to be forgetting he had 17 caps for the u21s and was the first choice in that team for a long time.

They've not just dragged him off the streets.

[overdrive]

People seem to be forgetting he had 17 caps for the u21s and was the first choice in that team for a long time.

They've not just dragged him off the streets.

I don’t think he’d have got on had McCrorie not got injured in the warmup.

[JimBHibees]

I don’t think he’d have got on had McCrorie not got injured in the warmup.

Pretty clear Mcrorie would have started i think if not injured

[EdinMike]

Smudge doesn’t happen to have a hidden Scottish Granny does he ?! 😅

[JimBHibees]

I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke

Completely agree the insistence of the old guard for so long in a meaningless friendly was quite odd given the amount of game time most will have had. Half of them looked knackered

[Glory Lurker]

Smudge doesn’t happen to have a hidden Scottish Granny does he ?! 😅

I'm sure he was at school with me. We always slagged him about how easy his paper round was.

[Musselbound]

Pretty clear Mcrorie would have started i think if not injured

I've been critical of Clarke for many reasons. It feels like it's about time for a change. But when you read how bad the goalkeeping crisis is, I'm not going to criticise him too much for the goalkeeping situation last night. He wouldn't have had any intention of playing Slicker and you can't really legislate for having to bring on your third choice, especially early in the game.

That's a lot of bad luck though it doesn't excuse for a moment the overall Scotland performance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87j23w1438o

[Speedy]

I don’t think he’d have got on had McCrorie not got injured in the warmup.

Totally agree. McCrorie would've been ahead.

He's not much better imo. But yes, McCrorie was 2nd choice.

[Speedy]

For what it is worth, I think Clarke should and perhaps would have played Slicker for 45 mins regardless over the two games.

Only way he'd get experience.

[McD]

I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke


There was no need for Robertson to complete the 90 yesterday, why not give Doig the second half or last half hour? Same with Adams, why bring him in when you could give Bowie or Wilson a run out and see how they do (aware that Wilson has had some minutes in the last match)? Souttar and McKenna should have started at centre back, what did we gain by another match of grant Hanley? Whether any of us think he’s good enough or not (I dont), at some point he won’t be there for whatever reason, why not give souttar and McKenna a chance to play together, and see how they do?


It was good to see Johnson finally get a game at right back, although it should have happened ages ago.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

There was no need for Robertson to complete the 90 yesterday, why not give Doig the second half or last half hour? Same with Adams, why bring him in when you could give Bowie or Wilson a run out and see how they do (aware that Wilson has had some minutes in the last match)? Souttar and McKenna should have started at centre back, what did we gain by another match of grant Hanley? Whether any of us think he’s good enough or not (I dont), at some point he won’t be there for whatever reason, why not give souttar and McKenna a chance to play together, and see how they do?


It was good to see Johnson finally get a game at right back, although it should have happened ages ago.

100%

I'm not advocating for an entirely different 11. I think we could retain 5 or 6 like souttar, gilmour, Tierney, ferguson (whos still relatively new to the side himself) and Mcginn

It all just feels a bit stale and last night felt like a chance to blood some new fresh energy from the guys weve mentioned

[RIP]

Another telling sign of a team that plays for each other is the protection that they give to their keepers.

McRorie getting injured in the warm up would have highlighted Gunn as vulnerable. A long throw to the front post and he's leaping without any protection against the lanky Icelandic striker.

It was noticeable that the forward made no effort whatsoever to head the ball. His sole aim seemed to be to focus on contact.

For the second goal, Iceland put their most physical guy in front of Slicker who then proceeds to hold the keepers arms and pushes him backwards into the goal.

They were a dirty team, well versed in the Dark Arts. We gave both keepers no protection at all.

Not why we lost perhaps but sadly indicative of a lack of defensive cohesion. A group of individuals rather than a team.

[ferry hibby]

Another telling sign of a team that plays for each other is the protection that they give to their keepers.

McRorie getting injured in the warm up would have highlighted Gunn as vulnerable. A long throw to the front post and he's leaping without any protection against the lanky Icelandic striker.

It was noticeable that the forward made no effort whatsoever to head the ball. His sole aim seemed to be to focus on contact.

For the second goal, Iceland put their most physical guy in front of Slicker who then proceeds to hold the keepers arms and pushes him backwards into the goal.

They were a dirty team, well versed in the Dark Arts. We gave both keepers no protection at all.

Not why we lost perhaps but sadly indicative of a lack of defensive cohesion. A group of individuals rather than a team.

Could not believe we did not have someone blocking off their forward to give some protection to the keeper rather than have contest with the forward and still try and get to the ball

[BILLYHIBS]

Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

[Iain G]

Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

Is that the bottom of that barrel being scraped even further?

[Pretty Boy]

Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

McKenna was already unofficially with the squad anyway to train. I think that probably says a lot about how highly he is thought of within the Scotland system.

He needs games now though. He was playing 1st team football at 16, he's been in the Bournemouth match day squad last season at 18 but what he needs is a season playing 30+ games at a decent level.

[BILLYHIBS]

McKenna was already unofficially with the squad anyway to train. I think that probably says a lot about how highly he is thought of within the Scotland system.

He needs games now though. He was playing 1st team football at 16, he's been in the Bournemouth match day squad last season at 18 but what he needs is a season playing 30+ games at a decent level.
👍

[Bridge hibs]

Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

Didnt know McKenna was a hibs youth keeper

[JimBHibees]

McKenna was already unofficially with the squad anyway to train. I think that probably says a lot about how highly he is thought of within the Scotland system.

He needs games now though. He was playing 1st team football at 16, he's been in the Bournemouth match day squad last season at 18 but what he needs is a season playing 30+ games at a decent level.

Who was he playing for at 16?

[bingo70]

Who was he playing for at 16?

Queens Park.

[JimBHibees]

Queens Park.

Ta

[DH1875]

Think we could see McKeena at ER in the next season or two.

See that McTominay is out of tomorrow game now as well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Tierney carrying a knock and didn't travel



honest

[Thatdayinmay16]

Has Osama Bin Clarke been sacked yet?

[Musselbound]

I don't think it's a bad thing McTominay is out really. Obviously one or our most important players but we know what he can do and he looked tired v Iceland.

Tierney could do with games but seems to be forever injured.

In theory it should be an opportunity for others and if we can't beat Lichtenstein without these players then the games up really.

[JimBHibees]

Has Osama Bin Clarke been sacked yet?

Hilarious

[HoboHarry]

Has Osama Bin Clarke been sacked yet?
Was that hilarious in your head?

[jacomo]

I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke


I was at the game unfortunately and it was a terrible performance.

As you say, baffling selection and stubbornness from Clarke. The midfielders all looked done in and more than ready for a break after a long season. Why not give opportunities to players desperate to claim their place in the team and excited for the opportunity?

There was a period before our subs were eventually made in the 2nd half when Clarke went to the bench and there was no one in the Scotland technical area at all. The whole thing looked completely directionless.

The crowd were actually decent until our 'second' was ruled out for VAR. Then folk started to drift away and the moans and groans became more audible - with good reason too.

[Tambo]

https://x.com/ScotlandNT/status/1932087086049366201

A couple of changes for today.

[jeffers]

Good to see him being as adventurous as ever. WTF. I’d actually have thought a bit more of him if he’d started Slicker tonight, give the guy a chance to restore some confidence after Friday.

[Since90+2]

Good to see him being as adventurous as ever. WTF. I’d actually have thought a bit more of him if he’d started Slicker tonight, give the guy a chance to restore some confidence after Friday.

Nah, guy was horrific. Why would he persist with him after he looked miles out his depth.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I was at the game unfortunately and it was a terrible performance.

As you say, baffling selection and stubbornness from Clarke. The midfielders all looked done in and more than ready for a break after a long season. Why not give opportunities to players desperate to claim their place in the team and excited for the opportunity?

There was a period before our subs were eventually made in the 2nd half when Clarke went to the bench and there was no one in the Scotland technical area at all. The whole thing looked completely directionless.

The crowd were actually decent until our 'second' was ruled out for VAR. Then folk started to drift away and the moans and groans became more audible - with good reason too.

Knowing the Hampden crowd, we'd have fully got behind the new guys had we been a bit more adventurous and given them some game time.

Turning to tonight, i thought we'd have at least given the newer guys at least 45/60 mins over the 2 games given they've effectively given up their summer holidays. When are we back? Late June? That's just over 2 weeks away. As I said in my original post, stubbornness might take him out

[jeffers]

Nah, guy was horrific. Why would he persist with him after he looked miles out his depth.

Presumably he must have something to be called into the squad in the first place, otherwise why not select Doohan before him.

[Hibernian Verse]

Presumably he must have something to be called into the squad in the first place, otherwise why not select Doohan before him.

His excellent league form?

Unrelated, but most of the lads in Clarke's squad know it doesn't matter how they perform on the pitch at their clubs because they will be picked for the next squad.

To have genuine competition for places you need people to know they're playing for one.

[Hiber-nation]

Presumably he must have something to be called into the squad in the first place, otherwise why not select Doohan before him.

He was our u21 keeper and it looks as if he was brought along for the experience to save having to try to call up a more experienced keeper with holidays booked to sit on the bench. Then 2 of the keepers got injured. I'm guessing of course but can't think of any other reason. Although who can 2nd guess Clarke after starting Grant Hanley the other night.

[BILLYHIBS]

Good to see him being as adventurous as ever. WTF. I’d actually have thought a bit more of him if he’d started Slicker tonight, give the guy a chance to restore some confidence after Friday.

No

[HoboHarry]

Not for the first time with Clarke, this game has been made completely pointless with that line up. Learn nothing and plod on, he deserves every bit of flak that he gets.

[SteveHFC]

Sunshine on Leith being played in the background.

[Billy Whizz]

Sunshine on Leith being played in the background.

Hear that too😀

[jeffers]

He was our u21 keeper and it looks as if he was brought along for the experience to save having to try to call up a more experienced keeper with holidays booked to sit on the bench. Then 2 of the keepers got injured. I'm guessing of course but can't think of any other reason. Although who can 2nd guess Clarke after starting Grant Hanley the other night.

And if he goes on to have a good club career and gets back into the international setup his abiding memory will be of his horror show on Friday. Start him tonight, let him gain some confidence instead of throwing him under the bus as Clarke has done.

[SteveHFC]

1-0 Scotland. Adams

[cabbageandribs1875]

yas che adams :greengrin

[B.H.F.C]

Not for the first time with Clarke, this game has been made completely pointless with that line up. Learn nothing and plod on, he deserves every bit of flak that he gets.

I don’t think you learn anything from this game full stop. Totally pointless, looks like a nice wee place for a trip for those who have bothered though.

[erin go bragh]

How the f is Doig no getting a start.

[Paul1642]

Really hope Bowie gets a meaningful runout here.

[Bridge hibs]

Are we just keeping the Iceland thread rather than start a Lichenstein thread because no **** can spell it 😄

[McD]

Really hope Bowie gets a meaningful runout here.



I’m hoping (but not really expecting) Bowie and Doig to at least get the second half, probably get on about 88 minutes if at all

[BILLYHIBS]

No Porto in the squad then ?

Thought I saw him training but might have been archive ?

[HoboHarry]

Are we just keeping the Iceland thread rather than start a Lichenstein thread because no **** can spell it 😄
:greengrin

[Tully]

What’s the love in with Lennon miller am I missing something

[green day]

What’s the love in with Lennon miller am I missing something

He's a cracking player, still young and will be a future star for Scotland.

[mjh]

What’s the love in with Lennon miller am I missing something

If u find it - let me know please

[SteveHFC]

2-0.

Watch us lose 3-2.

[green day]

Lennon Miller just made that 2nd goal........😁

[hibbie02]

Who knew Adams could score goals?


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[Tully]

If u find it - let me know please

I thought you of all people would know

[jeffers]

He's a cracking player, still young and will be a future star for Scotland.

Absolutely. It’s guys like him, not that we have many, who should be getting chances in the national side.

[B.H.F.C]

I don’t think I ever remember Miller particularly standing out when we’ve played Motherwell. Best player on the pitch here though. Looks very confident.

[Pretty Boy]

Absolutely. It’s guys like him, not that we have many, who should be getting chances in the national side.

Yep.

A cracking player. Technically sound, physical, good football brain and a really positive attitude. It sums up all that is wrong with Scottish football that people laughed mockingly when he stated he wanted to be Scotland's best player. Guy showed a bit confidence and had to backtrack because we revel in tearing young lads down.

Season before last he was statistically in the top 10 players in the world for his age and position. I'm not a massive fan of stats when used solely to make a point but you still have to have something to post numbers that get you into that conversation.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Woeful stuff so far 😕

[green day]

Lennon Miller has taken up some great positions, but most of his team mates are on the wrong wavelength.
Hirst has had a stinker

[Pretty Boy]

Hopefully a few changes at HT to get guys game time. Doig, Bowie and Wilson at least.

A top half team in League one would give Liechtenstein a game.

[Hiber-nation]

Abysmal performance but 2-0 up which shows you how bad Liechtenstein are. We miss Ben Doak so much.

Bowie has to come on at HT.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Was a tough watch that. Scotland in complete control but hardly a scintillating performance. I would take guys like McGinn, Robertson and Adams off who have played pretty much all season and give some younger lads a chance. Hopefully Bowie gets on

[McD]

Looking like no changes, ffs Clarke

[Helensburghhibs]

No subs at half time 😂 the guys a joke

[green day]

3-0 Hirst from one yard

[SteveHFC]

3-0. Now subs

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hirst with his First

[Pretty Boy]

Right get the changes made. Young lads keen to impress, could rack up a few goals.

[McD]

Good to see some subs coming on, get some of the other players some minutes… oh wait, that’s Lichtenstein :rolleyes:

[SteveHFC]

Hirst with his First

Been impressed with him in the last 2 games.

[jeffers]

BTW how did Barron get selected, he’s not even that good for the Huns.

[Pretty Boy]

Doig and Irving on. Robertson and McGinn off.

[SteveHFC]

Doig on

[McD]

Bowie and Barron now the only 2 uncapped left on the bench?

[Smartie]

Yep.

A cracking player. Technically sound, physical, good football brain and a really positive attitude. It sums up all that is wrong with Scottish football that people laughed mockingly when he stated he wanted to be Scotland's best player. Guy showed a bit confidence and had to backtrack because we revel in tearing young lads down.

Season before last he was statistically in the top 10 players in the world for his age and position. I'm not a massive fan of stats when used solely to make a point but you still have to have something to post numbers that get you into that conversation.

Absolutely.

Only negative that I can see with him is that he doesn’t play in goals.

[green day]

Subs have made us worse....

[1875Sean]

More subs coming on and still no Bowie

[McD]

****ing Conway and Paterson now, what’s the odds on Barron and Wilson being the rest of the subs? What a joke

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Genuinely feel so sorry for Wilson and Bowie. Maybe they were told to come along for the experience?

180 minutes against Iceland and Liechtenstein, you'd think we could have given every player a decent kick of the ball

[McD]

Genuinely feel so sorry for Wilson and Bowie. Maybe they were told to come along for the experience?

180 minutes against Iceland and Liechtenstein, you'd think we could have given every player a decent kick of the ball



Could have given each of them a sub appearance in either match, but no, let’s get more of Adams and Conway, meanwhile Hirst has had circa 70 minutes on both matches :confused:

[NC1875]

Clarke really is a twat.

Bring along 2 young guys and barely give them a kick of the ball.

I bet he’s learnt a lot watching Che Adams, again 🙄

[dp00]

Gotta think the lads not having seen a minute of the game on this trip would rightly be unhappy


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[SteveHFC]

Bowie coming on

[Donegal Hibby]

Good to see Bowie getting on .

[McD]

Gotta think the lads not having seen a minute of the game on this trip would rightly be unhappy


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Never mind getting a holiday with the family/girlfriend lads, come to the Scotland squad and you can train and not get on the pitch for your commitment to the cause


See Bowie is now on, but feel for Wilson, no need for Adams, Hirst and Conway to all get 2 appearances each whilst he doesn’t get one

[DaveF]

There should be around 10000 minutes of added on time. These Lichtie physios have covered more grass than the players.

I need my head examined for watching this crap.

[McD]

Is it just me or is Bowie playing left mid?

[Widhibs]

Is it just me or is Bowie playing left mid?

Looks like it...

[I'm_cabbaged]

Is it just me or is Bowie playing left mid?

Looks like it, Clarke is a complete fud

[Hibs90]

Clarke is a fanny. Bowie is a striker.

[Hibernian Verse]

Played wide left plenty for Northampton

[SteveHFC]

4-0. Adam’s hat trick.

[Tambo]

Nice to see Bowie get some minutes and something for him to work on for next season getting in more squads.

[HoboHarry]

Clarke should do the decent thing and walk but we know he won't. Failing to give real game time to the newcomers in a friendly against this mob should be enough to get him canned.

[cabbageandribs1875]

che adams= goal machine


:)

[Pretty Boy]

That was decent enough.

Can only beat what is in front of you. Miller player well, Doig slotted in well when coming on, as did Barron, and Adams getting a few goals will be good for his confidence.

Hardly one to get too excited about but we needed a convincing win and got one.

[Lago]

Clarke is a fanny. Bowie is a striker.
He probably doesn't even know he plays for Hibs. :confused:

[Hibernian Verse]

Think he was picked because of his form at Hibs.

Yer joking

[bingo70]

That was decent enough.

Can only beat what is in front of you. Miller player well, Doig slotted in well when coming on, as did Barron, and Adams getting a few goals will be good for his confidence.

Hardly one to get too excited about but we needed a convincing win and got one.

With opposition that poor, I don’t know what we could have learned from that though?

Seemed a pointless exercise.

[Broken Gnome]

I'm entirely open to the idea Clarke could well have run his race with these players, but this thread is getting a little silly.

Doubt Kieran Bowie's particularly feeling put out by a Scotland debut out on the left wing. It's not really something to get angry about.

[Speedy]

With opposition that poor, I don’t know what we could have learned from that though?

Seemed a pointless exercise.

It's mandatory to play a game. It's a glorified training game to give a few new players some experience in the squad. Was the same last June away Vs Gibraltar.

[DaveF]

That was decent enough.

Can only beat what is in front of you. Miller player well, Doig slotted in well when coming on, as did Barron, and Adams getting a few goals will be good for his confidence.

Hardly one to get too excited about but we needed a convincing win and got one.

It was akin to our national team playing Albion Rovers. What do you learn from that?

[Cabbage-Patch]

Is it just me or is Bowie playing left mid?

This is the same manager that played McTominay as a centre back mind

[HoboHarry]

This is the same manager that played McTominay as a centre back mind
Willing to bet that Clarke won't mention that if writes a book in the future.

[Pretty Boy]

With opposition that poor, I don’t know what we could have learned from that though?

Seemed a pointless exercise.

We had to play a game and that was what was available.

I don't think you learn loads but you have to try and take something away from it. There's no point in just saying 'well that was a waste of time' and forgetting about it. If the only take away is a few young lads didn't look overwhelmed playing for the national side then so be it.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Was that hilarious in your head?

Not as funny as some of the absolute dross he's had Scotland playing over the last 24 months.

27 games since 2023, 10 wins, 12 defeats and more goals conceded than scored. The guy is a nugget.

[overdrive]

I'm entirely open to the idea Clarke could well have run his race with these players, but this thread is getting a little silly.

Doubt Kieran Bowie's particularly feeling put out by a Scotland debut out on the left wing. It's not really something to get angry about.

I thought he had played mostly on the wing until he signed for us anyway. Think it was more the right wing, mind you.

[Gordy M]

Not as funny as some of the absolute dross he's had Scotland playing over the last 24 months.

27 games since 2023, 10 wins, 12 defeats and more goals conceded than scored. The guy is a nugget.
In competitive matches, which actually count, won 8 lost 7 and drawn 4.

[where'stheslope]

Is it just me or is Bowie playing left mid?
If you think back to the Hertz fud striker that got the game before, he looked as if he was playing fullback???
Think its just the managers system???

[jacomo]

Played wide left plenty for Northampton


Tony Mowbray played Steven Fletcher wide when he was breaking through, but it was clear as day that he would be a centre forward once he was physically ready for that role.

Bowie is surely the same? He absolutely looks like central striker is his best position.