Potential Opponents

[CapitalGreen]

Having a look at the lower ranked seeded teams:

Partizan:
- Entered the Champions League qualifiers in 24/25 and were eliminated by Dinamo Kyiv 9-2 on aggregate.
- They dropped into the Europe Qualifiers where they were eliminated by Lugano 3-2 on aggregate.
- They dropped into Conference League qualifiers where they were eliminated by Gent 2-0 on aggregate.

Sheriff Tiraspol
- Entered Europa League in Q1 and scraped passed Azerbaijani outfit Zira FC on pens
- Elimated at Q2 stage by Elfsborg 3-0 on aggregate.
- Dropped into Q3 of conference league and were eliminated by Nk Olymija of Slovenia 4-0 on aggregate.

Lugano
Entered Europe with guaranteed group stage football.
- Elimated from Champions League Q by Fenerbahce 6-4 on aggregate.
- Beat Partizan in Europa Q3 but then eliminated in playoff round by Besiktas 8-4 on aggregate.
- Dropped into Conference groups where they progressed to the last 16 before being eliminated by NK Celje from Slovenia on pens.

[Bishop Hibee]

Above 3 are beatable. All depends on who we keep and our recruitment. Important matches in July is far from ideal as we, like other clubs, will make signing close to the transfer window closing.

[Brooster]

I don't think Lugano are potential opponents any more. Could be Young Boys.

[danhibees1875]

I wonder what the Partizan.net summary of Hibs says. :greengrin

So all 3 were in Europe last year?

Lugano looked to have made the best go of it out of the 3 there.

[EGL2000]

Having a look at the lower ranked seeded teams:

Partizan:
- Entered the Champions League qualifiers in 24/25 and were eliminated by Dinamo Kyiv 9-2 on aggregate.
- They dropped into the Europe Qualifiers where they were eliminated by Lugano 3-2 on aggregate.
- They dropped into Conference League qualifiers where they were eliminated by Gent 2-0 on aggregate.

Sheriff Tiraspol
- Entered Europa League in Q1 and scraped passed Azerbaijani outfit Zira FC on pens
- Elimated at Q2 stage by Elfsborg 3-0 on aggregate.
- Dropped into Q3 of conference league and were eliminated by Nk Olymija of Slovenia 4-0 on aggregate.

Lugano
Entered Europe with guaranteed group stage football.
- Elimated from Champions League Q by Fenerbahce 6-4 on aggregate.
- Beat Partizan in Europa Q3 but then eliminated in playoff round by Besiktas 8-4 on aggregate.
- Dropped into Conference groups where they progressed to the last 16 before being eliminated by NK Celje from Slovenia on pens.

No longer lugano but young boys. Who would absolutely scud us. Recent champions league experience.

[EGL2000]

Does anyone know the potential conference league ties. If think it's pretty likely we get beat in the first Europa game so more interested in the conference teams?

[DaveF]

No longer lugano but young boys. Who would absolutely scud us. Recent champions league experience.

I hope you are not going to Europe, given your negative take on almost everything.

[S4uzee]

No chance we’re winning the Europa league 2nd qualifier.

[EGL2000]

I hope you are not going to Europe, given your negative take on almost everything.

Not negative just realistic. I'll obviously support hibs with everything I've got. However, young boys are a vastly experienced European side compared to us.

[Brooster]

No chance we’re winning the Europa league 2nd qualifier.

How's that?

[Ringothedog]

No chance we’re winning the Europa league 2nd qualifier.

Really? Based on what? Your opinion or something more substantial?

[dunfyhibby]

No chance we’re winning the Europa league 2nd qualifier.

If we were to lose the Europa league 2nd qualifying round, what round of the conference league do we go in to?

[S4uzee]

How's that?

You seriously think we’ll beat some of those teams over 2 legs in our first competitive games?

[Fergus52]

No chance we’re winning the Europa league 2nd qualifier.

I think our best chance of getting groups is to lose that tie anyway, then get drawn against a team in conference Q3 that we could beat on a good day, but that has a good enough coefficient for us to then be seeded in the play off.

Not sure who we could play that meets that criteria this year, but last year there were sides like omonia, cercle brugge, Astana where that could have worked out

[DaveF]

Not negative just realistic. I'll obviously support hibs with everything I've got. However, young boys are a vastly experienced European side compared to us.

No, you are being hysterical and negative. The draw hasn't even been made and you already have us out. Take a break.

[Fergus52]

You seriously think we’ll beat some of those teams over 2 legs in our first competitive games?

We could easily put out any of those teams over 2 legs, with a bit of luck.

None of them are as good as either of the old firm right now, who we've been showing up well against recently.

Aberdeen managed to beat Frankfurt in the groups a couple of years ago.

Looks at previous years qualifying results and there's always loads of minor upsets and a couple of really big ones

[EdinMike]

Pardon my ignorance but is “Partizan” aka Partizan Belgrade ?!

[Brooster]

You seriously think we’ll beat some of those teams over 2 legs in our first competitive games?

I'm not saying we will, I'm also not saying we have no chance. We've always got a chance.

[Hiber-nation]

We could easily put out any of those teams over 2 legs, with a bit of luck.

None of them are as good as either of the old firm right now, who we've been showing up well against recently.

Aberdeen managed to beat Frankfurt in the groups a couple of years ago.

Looks at previous years qualifying results and there's always loads of minor upsets and a couple of really big ones

Exactly. We can beat any of these teams at ER. Away games will be very difficult no doubt. But it's like saying we'd have no chance against Rangers over 2 legs. Absolute nonsense.

[Colr]

Exactly. We can beat any of these teams at ER. Away games will be very difficult no doubt. But it's like saying we'd have no chance against Rangers over 2 legs. Absolute nonsense.

We have no chance.

[Paul1642]

We’ve beaten Celtic and Rangers this season, who in turn would be expected to prevail against any team on this list.

The fact that we play home and away makes it harder but this ‘no chance’ chat is wrong.

We absolutely have a chance.

[Hiber-nation]

We have no chance.

So we'd have no chance against Rangers who have beaten teams like these in the past 2 seasons?

[Colr]

So we'd have no chance against Rangers who have beaten teams like these in the past 2 seasons?

No.

[Paul1642]

We have no chance.

Just like Aberdeen had no chance yesterday.

[S4uzee]

We could easily put out any of those teams over 2 legs, with a bit of luck.

None of them are as good as either of the old firm right now, who we've been showing up well against recently.

Aberdeen managed to beat Frankfurt in the groups a couple of years ago.

Looks at previous years qualifying results and there's always loads of minor upsets and a couple of really big ones

We unfortunately don’t carry the luck though do we. Our best league season in years yet we get undone by Celtic losing a final against that Aberdeen team. McGregors first ever loss in a final and Rodgers first defeat at Hampden. Only when hibs are involved eh

[DaveF]

Some of the jokers on this thread have convinced me that taking a break from posting until the draw is made, is a good idea.

[SteveHFC]

We have no chance.
bit like aberdeen having zero chance of beating celtic

[Musselbound]

Just like Aberdeen had no chance yesterday.

Exactly! Just what I was thinking.

[Brooster]

Some of the jokers on this thread have convinced me that taking a break from posting until the draw is made, is a good idea.

Not a bad shout Dave. Place is full of them at the moment.

[bingo70]

If we win the Europa league qualifier at the stage we enter are we guaranteed group stage football in either the Europa or conference?

[SteveHFC]

If we win the Europa league qualifier at the stage we enter are we guaranteed group stage football in either the Europa or conference?


no we need to win 2nd and 3rd round games in Europa league to get to the play off stage that would guarantee at least conference league group stages

[hibee_girl]

If we win the Europa league qualifier at the stage we enter are we guaranteed group stage football in either the Europa or conference?

No, this should explain it -

https://x.com/scottmillar1/status/1926326789078479149?s=46&t=aVqa0cBg17d3EF8v8uwmNw

[Hibees1973]

Fully understand we will play a seeded side in the Europa League 2nd qualifying round.

Will be very difficult to overcome one of these, particularly a high seed. However, if we somehow progress the 3rd qualifying round might be slightly easier. If we knock out a seed, we take this seeded score and may become a seeded team (if our new seed co-efficient is high enough compared to other sides in this round). Noticed there are two unseeded sides already in the 3rd qualifying round we could have a chance against Wolfsberg (Austria) & Fredrikstad (Norway), both good trips an aw. Win this we will have European group stage football until Christmas no matter what happens.

Just clutching at straws after yesterday's debacle.

[CallumLaidlaw]

See since the draw for each round happens before the previous round is decided, if we lost in the Europa, would we replace a seeded team in the conference?


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[Billy Bunter 07]

We have as much a chance as the Irish mob who the Celtc striker who played yesterday was on loan to. They made the groups, we are the third best team in Scotland and it's time to look forward, positively. If they can make not only the groups but the qualifying rounds of the conference, with a little bit of luck in the draw for a change there's no reason we cannae either. No seeded team in the first games especially will want to play us.

[Hibees1973]

See since the draw for each round happens before the previous round is decided, if we lost in the Europa, would we replace a seeded team in the conference?

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It's possible, but I doubt it. Particularly if we get knocked out of the Europa League 2nd qualifying round and therefore don't improve our co-efficient score.

Our co-efficient score is low, think it's 7.07. This is unlikely to make us a seed in either competition unless we knock out a couple of sides which will improve it.

[hibsbollah]

We have no chance.

You dont understand sport, clearly.

[SteveHFC]

See since the draw for each round happens before the previous round is decided, if we lost in the Europa, would we replace a seeded team in the conference?


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Club coefficients | UEFA rankings | UEFA.com (https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/?year=2025) use the country filter to view teams hibs coefficient is 4.5 while scotlands as a nation is 7.11 so we take the higher of the 2 (7.11) that cant change until next season
exception is an unseeded team beating a seeded team then the unseeded team takes the seeded team coefficient for next round only

[SteveHFC]

It's possible, but I doubt it. Particularly if we get knocked out of the Europa League 2nd qualifying round and therefore don't improve our co-efficient score.

Our co-efficient score is low, think it's 7.07. This is unlikely to make us a seed in either competition unless we knock out a couple of sides which will improve it.

pretty sure it doesnt increase until following season 26/27

[bingo70]

One of the best experiences I’ve had as a Hibs supporters was Aston Villa away which came as an unseeded team in a tie we got put out of.

I understand the financial implications to what happened yesterday but I’ll let the board worry about that, I don’t think if we’d have got it we would have gone on a wild spending spree. The black knights and Gordon’s have high ambitions for us regardless of what happened yesterday and they don’t need the cash to allow us to invest.

We’re not going to win a European competition so for me it’s all about making memories and we still have plenty opportunity to do so.

Disappointing not to have guaranteed group stages football but that shouldn’t dampen the excitement of the draws ahead. If we have learned anything about this team and management it’s that we shouldn’t write them off before the draw is even made.

[Hibernian Verse]

It's possible, but I doubt it. Particularly if we get knocked out of the Europa League 2nd qualifying round and therefore don't improve our co-efficient score.

Our co-efficient score is low, think it's 7.07. This is unlikely to make us a seed in either competition unless we knock out a couple of sides which will improve it.

That’s our coefficient for this year, it can’t be affected now.

[hibsbollah]

What strikes me is a number of the seeded teams (Partizan, Braga, the Moldovans, Shakhtar) are well frequented with each other in the competition and tend to be well matched when they play each other with one goal in it. They are also stacked with foreign aging talent. They have had a few years to build up cash reserves we dont have, look better equipped on paper than us to compete but have been eliminated by ‘poorer’ sides than them before.

[bingo70]

You dont understand sport, clearly.

Aberdeen had absolutely no chance yesterday.

I’ve seen Hearts play against supposed big teams in Europe recently and felt they were their for the taken if Hearts didn’t do what they normally do and shat the bed.

Aberdeen beat Frankfurt recently.

We’ve put out Greek and Swiss opposition recently,

We’re now benefiting from the ambitious Black Knight group who will want us to tackle this challenge head on and will back us accordingly to do so.

Look how well Rangers have done in Europe recently and since about 12 games into last season have been no better than us.

There’s loads of reasons we still have a chance, we just have to hope the people running the club and team aren’t as defeatist as some of our fans.

[OtleyHibs]

In terms of "no chance", I would have given us no chance of finishing 3rd in November

I'm putting nothing past this team, was a sickener yesterday, but I've got more faith in this Hibs side after this season than I've had in years, yesterday doesn't change that

[JasonC1875]

I don't think Lugano are potential opponents any more. Could be Young Boys.

If Basel win the cup then it’s back to being Lugano…they play a second tier side in the final

[CapitalGreen]

The same losers giving us no chance now were the ones who had us relegated in November and were calling for Gray’s head.

[CentreForward]

If we win the Europa league qualifier at the stage we enter are we guaranteed group stage football in either the Europa or conference?

No. Would still have to win two more rounds I think.

[LaMotta]

Lugano would be great for an away day (they play European games in Geneva).

Tiraspol would mean no away day as you can't travel to Moldova.

Partizan not sure about. You can get indirect flights to Belgrade but UK gov advice is cautious about travelling there.

[Colr]

You dont understand sport, clearly.

I understand that, for some, it is the triumph of hope over experience.

[hibsbollah]

I understand that, for some, it is the triumph of hope over experience.

Are you doubling down that we have ZERO, nada, eff all chance? Explain your thinking.

[eastmainsmsh]

It is what it is we have had a terrific season when we are on it we are as good as anyone need to be positive and give it a bash

[SteveHFC]

Lugano would be great for an away day (they play European games in Geneva).

Tiraspol would mean no away day as you can't travel to Moldova.

Partizan not sure about. You can get indirect flights to Belgrade but UK gov advice is cautious about travelling there.

Lugano no longer in it as place taken by young boys

[LaMotta]

Its worth noting that Uefa do a sort of regionalisation of the draw which is announced on the day of the draw. This narrows down potential opponents further.

Its larely based on geography of course, but given so many teams means you can still face teams from further away.

[Nevi_SOL]

We'll be competitive in every qualifying game regardless of opposition. Not once this season under gray was this anything other than the case and that includes champions league Celtic, Europa league rangers and conference league hearts

[LaMotta]

Lugano no longer in it as place taken by young boys

See post #45 above - if Basel win cup (which they should) then Lugano are possible opponents.

[bingo70]

If Basel win the cup then it’s back to being Lugano…they play a second tier side in the final

FFS, I’m no waiting on another cup final result am I, no sure I can handle that 😜

[overdrive]

It's possible, but I doubt it. Particularly if we get knocked out of the Europa League 2nd qualifying round and therefore don't improve our co-efficient score.

Our co-efficient score is low, think it's 7.07. This is unlikely to make us a seed in either competition unless we knock out a couple of sides which will improve it.

The Wikipedia page for the Conference League has the loser of the EL match involving Hibs as confirmed unseeded for the Conference League Qualifying Round 3

[Hibernian Verse]

If it's Shakhtar they play their Euro matches in Gelsenkirchen (Schalke's ground). Decent trip but empty stadium with very few home fans understandably.

[B.H.F.C]

I can’t believe there are folk that give us no chance of progressing in a tie that hasn’t been drawn yet.

We’re obviously going to need a wee bit luck in the draw but there are going to be ties that are winnable along the line. There will be winnable ties in there.

[bingo70]

I can’t believe there are folk that give us no chance of progressing in a tie that hasn’t been drawn yet.

We’re obviously going to need a wee bit luck in the draw but there are going to be ties that are winnable along the line. There will be winnable ties in there.

I wonder what the stats are (capital Greens ears hopefully pricking up as I type) for unseeded teams beating seeded teams in this round.

In the last couple of years I’d expect the seeded teams to have a high % of progressing but I really doubt if it’s a 100% success rate for the seeded sides.

[Hibernian Verse]

I can’t believe there are folk that give us no chance of progressing in a tie that hasn’t been drawn yet.

We’re obviously going to need a wee bit luck in the draw but there are going to be ties that are winnable along the line. There will be winnable ties in there.

Exactly. Lee Johnson managed us through a tie against seeded Luzern.

[Trinity Hibee]

Was seriously pissed off yesterday but it’s eased today. We done all we could and fair play to Aberdeen beating Celtic in a cup final.

Looking at it, winning 2 ties out of 3 in whichever competition maybe isn’t as far fetched as we think. Yes, we need a favourable draw but I’m a bit more confident we have an idea of better players to bring in and SDG has the squad in a good place. Fingers crossed we can do it and shove it down the throats of those who are enjoying our bad luck

[Hibernian Verse]

I wonder what the stats are (capital Greens ears hopefully pricking up as I type) for unseeded teams beating seeded teams in this round.

In the last couple of years I’d expect the seeded teams to have a high % of progressing but I really doubt if it’s a 100% success rate for the seeded sides.

Only one of the eight ties last year. Elfsborg beat Sheriff.

Ajax Netherlands 4–1 Serbia Vojvodina
Ružomberok Slovakia 0–3 Turkey Trabzonspor
Wisła Kraków Poland 2–8 Austria Rapid Wien
Kilmarnock Scotland 1–2 Belgium Cercle Brugge
Molde Norway 5–4 Denmark Silkeborg
Corvinul Hunedoara Romania 0–1 Croatia Rijeka
Braga Portugal 7–0 Israel Maccabi Petah Tikva
Panathinaikos Greece 6–1 Bulgaria Botev Plovdiv
Sheriff Tiraspol Moldova 0–3 Sweden IF Elfsborg

[bingo70]

Only one of the eight ties last year. Elfsborg beat Sheriff.

Ajax Netherlands 4–1 Serbia Vojvodina
Ružomberok Slovakia 0–3 Turkey Trabzonspor
Wisła Kraków Poland 2–8 Austria Rapid Wien
Kilmarnock Scotland 1–2 Belgium Cercle Brugge
Molde Norway 5–4 Denmark Silkeborg
Corvinul Hunedoara Romania 0–1 Croatia Rijeka
Braga Portugal 7–0 Israel Maccabi Petah Tikva
Panathinaikos Greece 6–1 Bulgaria Botev Plovdiv
Sheriff Tiraspol Moldova 0–3 Sweden IF Elfsborg

So you’re saying there’s a chance? 😃

[Hibernian Verse]

So you’re saying there’s a chance? 😃

There's always a chance. We aren't a small club and we have a manager who gets the best out his players.

We are really well suited to playing "better" teams, much more effective without the ball which is how we will have to play in Europe.

Whatever happens, I'll be there.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Not negative just realistic. I'll obviously support hibs with everything I've got. However, young boys are a vastly experienced European side compared to us.

Didn't realise the draw had been made yet.

[DaveF]

Didn't realise the draw had been made yet.

Are you not paying attention? We may as well just withdraw as we have no chance.

[SteveHFC]

See post #45 above - if Basel win cup (which they should) then Lugano are possible opponents.

was going by

2025–26 UEFA Europa League - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%9326_UEFA_Europa_League)


so young boys will get route we should have got if it had went to plan and lugano will get same as us:thumbsup:

[Contador]

The issue we have is that alot of these sides (pretty much all from looking at the list) have a lot of European experience, whilst looking at our record we don’t. When a draw is made many of us instantly look at the clubs’ European record on wikipedia.

Of course we have to start somewhere, but looking at some names and thinking they are beatable, only to look at their track record and who they have faced in recent times and it suddenly looks trickier.

Apologies if this sounds negative, the stuffing has been taken out me a bit since yesterday, but I firmly believe the key is catching a side at the right time, even if they are a bit more well known/experienced.

[LaMotta]

In terms of the bigger teams being mentioned, obvs hard to progress but for away day potential:

Midjtylland - not great, hard place to get to in Denmark.

Braga - decent, not far by train from Porto or Vigo in North of Spain.

Dynamo Kyiv - good, flights to Dussedorf or Cologne then good train network in Germany.

Legia Warsaw - good.

Anderlecht- good

Cluj - more accessible than I might have thought- flights via Dublin or London.

[bingo70]

In terms of the bigger teams being mentioned, obvs hard to progress but for away day potential:

Midjtylland - not great, hard place to get to in Denmark.

Braga - decent, not far by train from Porto or Vigo in North of Spain.

Dynamo Kyiv - good, flights to Dussedorf or Cologne then good train network in Germany.

Legia Warsaw - good.

Anderlecht- good

Cluj - more accessible than I might have thought- flights via Dublin or London.

I’m in Albufeira on the date of one of the legs. Just been having a quick look and I see they’ve selfishly decided to place Braga in the furthest away point in Portugal from where I’m going to be. Even by train it looks like it’s an ordeal to get to.

If we happen to draw them I’ll maybe get in touch to see if they can move it somewhere a bit more accessible for me.

[Crab apple]

Exactly. Lee Johnson managed us through a tie against seeded Luzern.

Talking of Streaky Lee, he was at Wembley yesterday for the play off final.

[Skol]

When do the draw(s) take place ?

[DaveF]

When do the draw(s) take place ?

I saw a post earlier which said 18th June

[Lago]

Opinions, don't you just love all the expert opinions on here, let the fun begin 😂

[Skol]

I saw a post earlier which said 18th June

Thanks, not long to wait.

[Hibernian Verse]

In terms of the bigger teams being mentioned, obvs hard to progress but for away day potential:

Midjtylland - not great, hard place to get to in Denmark.

Braga - decent, not far by train from Porto or Vigo in North of Spain.

Dynamo Kyiv - good, flights to Dussedorf or Cologne then good train network in Germany.

Legia Warsaw - good.

Anderlecht- good

Cluj - more accessible than I might have thought- flights via Dublin or London.

Even Chisinău for Sheriff would be good. £300 return ish and would be cheap when there.

[Not In The Know]

So you’re saying there’s a chance? 😃


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA

[LaMotta]

I’m in Albufeira on the date of one of the legs. Just been having a quick look and I see they’ve selfishly decided to place Braga in the furthest away point in Portugal from where I’m going to be. Even by train it looks like it’s an ordeal to get to.

If we happen to draw them I’ll maybe get in touch to see if they can move it somewhere a bit more accessible for me.

:greengrin
TBF you can get cheap flights from Faro to Porto - then its only an hour on the train away to Braga, so not too bad!!

[LaMotta]

Even Chisinău for Sheriff would be good. £300 return ish and would be cheap when there.

I had read that Sheriff had been granted permission to play back in Tiraspol, but looks like it was actually blocked by Uefa so you're right, would prob be ok if they play in Chisinau!

[B.H.F.C]

So far as I can see, we now have Braga, Young Boys and Anderlecht as seeds. Shakhtar, Partizan and Legia Warsaw to add to that providing they win first round ties. Plus two other winners of first round ties.

Guessing, at this stage, the two unknowns might give us the best opportunity to progress looking at that list.

This has probably been covered but I’m just trying to get it all straight. Bit of luck definitely needed with the draw.

[DaveHFC]

In terms of the bigger teams being mentioned, obvs hard to progress but for away day potential:

Midjtylland - not great, hard place to get to in Denmark.

Braga - decent, not far by train from Porto or Vigo in North of Spain.

Dynamo Kyiv - good, flights to Dussedorf or Cologne then good train network in Germany.

Legia Warsaw - good.

Anderlecht- good

Cluj - more accessible than I might have thought- flights via Dublin or London.

Cluj is great town

[Hibs90]

I wonder what the stats are (capital Greens ears hopefully pricking up as I type) for unseeded teams beating seeded teams in this round.

In the last couple of years I’d expect the seeded teams to have a high % of progressing but I really doubt if it’s a 100% success rate for the seeded sides.

25% success rate for unseeded sides.

[LaMotta]

So far as I can see, we now have Braga, Young Boys and Anderlecht as seeds. Shakhtar, Partizan and Legia Warsaw to add to that providing they win first round ties. Plus two other winners of first round ties.

Guessing, at this stage, the two unknowns might give us the best opportunity to progress looking at that list.

This has probably been covered but I’m just trying to get it all straight. Bit of luck definitely needed with the draw.

Scotland's Coefficient website has just posted an article on their website which says the following:

Four teams will be definite possible opponents as they enter in this round (Braga, Midtjylland, Anderlecht and Lugano), however the other four teams are only a ‘projection’ based on club coefficient assumptions. The assumption is that teams with the higher coefficient progress from EL QR1 (Shakhtar, Legia Warsaw, Partizan Belgrade and Sheriff).

He is normally spot on with info and he's just updated the article an hour ago....

[S4uzee]

Scotland's Coefficient website has just posted an article on their website which says the following:

Four teams will be definite possible opponents as they enter in this round (Braga, Midtjylland, Anderlecht and Lugano), however the other four teams are only a ‘projection’ based on club coefficient assumptions. The assumption is that teams with the higher coefficient progress from EL QR1 (Shakhtar, Legia Warsaw, Partizan Belgrade and Sheriff).

We’re not beating any of them over 2 legs

[hibsbollah]

We’re not beating any of them over 2 legs

We have more chance than the bottom six poppy thieves.

[LaMotta]

We’re not beating any of them over 2 legs

According to the article our estimated squad value (15m Euros) is almost twice that of Sheriff Tiraspol - so that would be our best chance by some distance.

Legia and Partisan have 2x higher estimated squad values than us - so we should make those games competitive. Midtyland and Lugano 4x higher, Anderlecht 6.5x, Braga 8x and Donestk 11x.

[jonny]

We’re not beating any of them over 2 legs

I'm not having that. I'm confident if we got the Moldovans we'd beat them. I'd fancy us against Partizan as well.
I think we're a good side at the moment and whilst wouldn't be favourites I wouldn't write us off against any of them.
Best draw for me would be Sheriff

[bingo70]

I'm not having that. I'm confident if we got the Moldovans we'd beat them. I'd fancy us against Partizan as well.
I think we're a good side at the moment and whilst wouldn't be favourites I wouldn't write us off against any of them.
Best draw for me would be Sheriff

Agreed.

May also depends on when our opponents league season starts.

If we are a week or two ahead of our opponent in terms of preparing for the new season, that could be a huge leveller.

[B.H.F.C]

Scotland's Coefficient website has just posted an article on their website which says the following:

Four teams will be definite possible opponents as they enter in this round (Braga, Midtjylland, Anderlecht and Lugano), however the other four teams are only a ‘projection’ based on club coefficient assumptions. The assumption is that teams with the higher coefficient progress from EL QR1 (Shakhtar, Legia Warsaw, Partizan Belgrade and Sheriff).

He is normally spot on with info and he's just updated the article an hour ago....

Cheers.

Braga, Shakhtar, Warsaw and Anderlecht beat us. On the plus side, some decent trips.

The others, I think we’d at least have a chance. We’ve beaten a Swiss team recently who aren’t dissimilar to Lugano and competed with a team from the Danish league previously. Partizan are a name but not done anything over the last couple of years in Europe. Sherriff, we’d have a chance against.

[Hibees1973]

We’re not beating any of them over 2 legs

Lugano maybe, can't see them being any better than Luzern. Agree the rest of them have decent and recent form in Europe. The one I would want to avoid most is Braga :duck:might turn a bit messy against them.

For any of that lot kind of hope we have the first leg at home.

We do have the consolation of falling into the the Conference 3rd round qualifying round which might be winnable. However, it's likely we will hit a biggie at the Conference League play off stage as we did last time with Villa.

[LaMotta]

Cheers.

Braga, Shakhtar, Warsaw and Anderlecht beat us. On the plus side, some decent trips.

The others, I think we’d at least have a chance. We’ve beaten a Swiss team recently who aren’t dissimilar to Lugano and competed with a team from the Danish league previously. Partizan are a name but not done anything over the last couple of years in Europe. Sherriff, we’d have a chance against.

agreed:agree:

Lugano have a decent squad it seems, but their average attendance is less than 4000. Their European fixture crowds played in Geneva were tiny - see here: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/lugano/attendances

Its a trek from Lugano to Geneva, there would potentially be more Hibs fans there than home fans.

Midtylland average less than 10000.

[hibsbollah]

We’ll play Roma.


In the final :greengrin

[S4uzee]

Cheers.

Braga, Shakhtar, Warsaw and Anderlecht beat us. On the plus side, some decent trips.

The others, I think we’d at least have a chance. We’ve beaten a Swiss team recently who aren’t dissimilar to Lugano and competed with a team from the Danish league previously. Partizan are a name but not done anything over the last couple of years in Europe. Sherriff, we’d have a chance against.

Sheriff beat Real Madrid at the Bernabeu only 4 years ago

[B.H.F.C]

agreed:agree:

Lugano have a decent squad it seems, but their average attendance is less than 4000. Their Euroepan fixtures played in Geneva were tiny - see here: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/lugano/attendances

Its a trek from Lugano to Geneva, there would potentially be more Hibs fans there than home fans.

Midtylland average less than 10000.

Only a couple of points between them and Luzern this season if we look at that as some kind of benchmark.

[S4uzee]

Only a couple of points between them and Luzern this season if we look at that as some kind of benchmark.

I felt we rode our luck a bit against Luzern although we’re a better team now than then

[bingo70]

Sheriff beat Real Madrid at the Bernabeu only 4 years ago

Absolutely no idea but I’m guessing they’ll have lost a lot of that team since then?

No question they’ll still be a decent, more than competent team but I suspect that team from 4 years ago was a once in a generation side for them that’s unlikely ever to be repeated again.

[Col2]

We’re not beating any of them over 2 legs

Are they any bigger than say Rangers? I guarantee we would back ourselves to beat them over two legs.

[Hibees1973]

Sheriff beat Real Madrid at the Bernabeu only 4 years ago

4 years ago a work colleague's son was in nappies, but all fine now.

[LaMotta]

I felt we rode our luck a bit against Luzern although we’re a better team now than then

Not sure I would agree with that. 5-3 win over the two legs. We started and ended the game in Luzern better than them too , although it was backs to the wall in-between.

[LaMotta]

Absolutely no idea but I’m guessing they’ll have lost a lot of that team since then?

No question they’ll still be a decent, more than competent team but I suspect that team from 4 years ago was a once in a generation side for them that’s unlikely ever to be repeated again.

They got papped out conference league qualifying stage last year 4-0 on agg by Olimpja of Slovenia, which prob gives a fairer reflection of their standing.

[B.H.F.C]

Sheriff beat Real Madrid at the Bernabeu only 4 years ago

This season they lost to Elfsborg over two legs at the same stage we could potentially face them. Dropped out in to the Conference League qualifiers and lost 4-0 to Ljubljana.

We’d definitely have a chance of progressing against them.

[Bishop Hibee]

Not all bad news on the European front this weekend.

‘Union Saint Gilloise have just won the Belgian League.

That means Rangers will be unseeded in the Champions League Play-Off round, should they get that far, and would play either Benfica or Club Brugge.’

[LaMotta]

Not all bad news on the European front this weekend.

‘Union Saint Gilloise have just won the Belgian League.

That means Rangers will be unseeded in the Champions League Play-Off round, should they get that far, and would play either Benfica or Club Brugge.’

I know its not popular with some to want other Scottish teams to do well in Europe - but if we want a chance of guaranteed group stage football in the coming years we really need teams like Rangers to boost the coefficient.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Wouldn’t mind a trip to Transnistria btw, been on the bucket list to see their military parades.


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[DH1875]

:greengrin
TBF you can get cheap flights from Faro to Porto - then its only an hour on the train away to Braga, so not too bad!!

Probably better getting the bus by time you factor in getting from Albuferia to Faro and Porto to Braga. Takes about 7.30 hours but pretty straightforward as bus to Lisbon then Lisbon to Braga. Good thing is that there is a bus at 00:15 everyday from Braga back to Lisbon then connection to be back in Albuferia by 07:30 so get a good kip on the bus.

[Hibees1973]

This season they lost to Elfsborg over two legs at the same stage we could potentially face them. Dropped out in to the Conference League qualifiers and lost 4-0 to Ljubljana.

We’d definitely have a chance of progressing against them.

Indeed.

Is a while back now but I remember Videoton got to the UEFA cup final in 1985 (beaten 3-1 of aggregate against Real Madrid, but won the away leg at the Bernabeu). We pumped them 4 years later.

Consensus just now then is Sheriff & Lugano.

So there is hope, with regards to what some say.

[LaMotta]

Wouldn’t mind a trip to Transnistria btw, been on the bucket list to see their military parades.


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UK Gov advises not to go there!
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/moldova

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

UK Gov advises not to go there!
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/moldova

UK Gov advises not to go to a lot of places, including tourist destinations like parts of Mexico and Senegal to be fair.


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[LaMotta]

UK Gov advises not to go to a lot of places, including tourist destinations like parts of Mexico and Senegal to be fair.


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For good reasons!:greengrin

[B.H.F.C]

Probably better getting the bus by time you factor in getting from Albuferia to Faro and Porto to Braga. Takes about 7.30 hours but pretty straightforward as bus to Lisbon then Lisbon to Braga. Good thing is that there is a bus at 00:15 everyday from Braga back to Lisbon then connection to be back in Albuferia by 07:30 so get a good kip on the bus.

Love that possible travel routes are being discussed for hypothetical ties.

I’ve already been on Skyscanner looking at routes to various places. No too keen on Moldova right enough and Belgrade could be interesting. Decent trips in amongst it all though.

[darwenhibby]

We ain’t got nothing to fear
Teams across Europe will be going Edinburg Hibernians who??
This is the most unified competitive squad we have had ever.
No standout players like say McGinn to carry the team
Just good players who will do the business
After yesterday we need to do it the hard way but we will do it.
Can’t wait

[LaMotta]

agreed:agree:

Lugano have a decent squad it seems, but their average attendance is less than 4000. Their European fixture crowds played in Geneva were tiny - see here: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/lugano/attendances

Its a trek from Lugano to Geneva, there would potentially be more Hibs fans there than home fans.

Midtylland average less than 10000.

Correcting myself - Lugano actually played European games last year in Thun, rather than Geneva.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

For good reasons!:greengrin

That’s probably true enough I suppose! Would need to see what the guidance is nearer the time but I’d probably take the risk, tick off the bucket list and see Hibs in Europe at the same time


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[gorgie greens]

That’s probably true enough I suppose! Would need to see what the guidance is nearer the time but I’d probably take the risk, tick off the bucket list and see Hibs in Europe at the same time


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At roughly £1.30 a pint it could be more than interesting

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

At roughly £1.30 a pint it could be more than interesting

Don’t know if I fancy the prospect of a Transnistrian jail for the night for being leathered in public, but £1.30 a pint sounds lovely.


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[CapitalGreen]

Don’t know if I fancy the prospect of a Transnistrian jail for the night for being leathered in public, but £1.30 a pint sounds lovely.

Sheriff don’t play their European ties in Transnistria.

[EGL2000]

agreed:agree:

Lugano have a decent squad it seems, but their average attendance is less than 4000. Their European fixture crowds played in Geneva were tiny - see here: https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/lugano/attendances

Its a trek from Lugano to Geneva, there would potentially be more Hibs fans there than home fans.

Midtylland average less than 10000.

Won't face Lugano now anyway as they dropped a place in the league this weekend. It's Young Boys now from Switzerland, which is a much harder game. Recent champions league experience.

[chippy]

We ain’t got nothing to fear
Teams across Europe will be going Edinburg Hibernians who??
This is the most unified competitive squad we have had ever.
No standout players like say McGinn to carry the team
Just good players who will do the business
After yesterday we need to do it the hard way but we will do it.
Can’t wait
Good post

[bingo70]

Won't face Lugano now anyway as they dropped a place in the league this weekend. It's Young Boys now from Switzerland, which is a much harder game. Recent champions league experience.

Someone was saying earlier in the thread it will go back to being Lugano if a certain team wins the Swiss cup (can’t remember who), they are strong favourites and playing a lower league club.

What could go wrong eh 😂

[EGL2000]

Someone was saying earlier in the thread it will go back to being Lugano if a certain team wins the Swiss cup (can’t remember who), they are strong favourites and playing a lower league club.

What could go wrong eh 😂

You are probably right tbf. I was just going off league position!

Just had a look there and it's the team 3 place in the 3rd division Vs Basel. Lugano it is then !

[badabing67]

Someone was saying earlier in the thread it will go back to being Lugano if a certain team wins the Swiss cup (can’t remember who), they are strong favourites and playing a lower league club.

What could go wrong eh 😂


I think we need clarification on this as The Scotsman are saying this, hope they are wrong

Possible Hibs opponents in Europa League qualifying
Seeded
Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)

Braga (CONFIRMED, Portugal)

Midtyjlland (Denmark)

Legia Warsaw (Poland)

Anderlecht (CONFIRMED, Belgium)

Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)

Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova)

Young Boys (CONFIRMED, Switzerland)

[Hibernian Verse]

I think we need clarification on this as The Scotsman are saying this, hope they are wrong

Possible Hibs opponents in Europa League qualifying
Seeded
Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)

Braga (CONFIRMED, Portugal)

Midtyjlland (Denmark)

Legia Warsaw (Poland)

Anderlecht (CONFIRMED, Belgium)

Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)

Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova)

Young Boys (CONFIRMED, Switzerland)


The 2024–25 Swiss Cup winner qualifies for the Europa League play-off round. If the cup winner finishes in the top three, the remaining European berths will pass down to the next highest qualifying teams.

Young Boys will take Basel's play off if they win the cup.

[LaMotta]

I think we need clarification on this as The Scotsman are saying this, hope they are wrong

Possible Hibs opponents in Europa League qualifying
Seeded
Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)

Braga (CONFIRMED, Portugal)

Midtyjlland (Denmark)

Legia Warsaw (Poland)

Anderlecht (CONFIRMED, Belgium)

Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)

Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova)

Young Boys (CONFIRMED, Switzerland)



The 2024–25 Swiss Cup winner qualifies for the Europa League play-off round. If the cup winner finishes in the top three, the remaining European berths will pass down to the next highest qualifying teams.

Young Boys will take Basel's play off if they win the cup.

From Lugano Twitter:

https://x.com/FCLugano1908/status/1926341984005796300?t=5ea8s2QYpKLCSCDRGpU7pQ&s=19

[DIXIHIBS]

I think we need clarification on this as The Scotsman are saying this, hope they are wrong

Possible Hibs opponents in Europa League qualifying
Seeded
Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)

Braga (CONFIRMED, Portugal)

Midtyjlland (Denmark)

Legia Warsaw (Poland)

Anderlecht (CONFIRMED, Belgium)

Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)

Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova)

Young Boys (CONFIRMED, Switzerland)


They aren't wrong but as stated only 3 of these teams confirmed. Others have to go through Q1 first. Possible a few could get knocked out. Wiki page explains it quite well.

[CapitalGreen]

They aren't wrong but as stated only 3 of these teams confirmed. Others have to go through Q1 first. Possible a few could get knocked out. Wiki page explains it quite well.

Young Boys aren’t confirmed.

[CapitalGreen]

Do you by chance know if the game would be played behind closed doors? If so probably one of the ties we want to avoid.

It would be played in Germany at Schalke’s stadium.

[MartinfaePorty]

Do you by chance know if the game would be played behind closed doors? If so probably one of the ties we want to avoid.Last season, I think they played European ties in Gilsenkirchen

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[Hibees1973]

I think we need clarification on this as The Scotsman are saying this, hope they are wrong

Possible Hibs opponents in Europa League qualifying


Seeded


Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)

Braga (CONFIRMED, Portugal)

Midtyjlland (Denmark)

Legia Warsaw (Poland)

Anderlecht (CONFIRMED, Belgium)

Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)

Sheriff Tiraspol (Moldova)

Young Boys (CONFIRMED, Switzerland)


On the Conference League 2025-26 wikipedia there is a 'Note' to say that Lugano will go into the Europa league if Basel win the cup. Basel play a team from the Swiss 3rd tier, so you expect Basel will win. The Swiss will have two sides in the Europa League. Young Boys are currently showing in the 2nd qualifying phase with us. The Swiss will also have a side which goes directly into the play-off phase. It isn't completely clear if it's Lugano or Young Boys who go direct to the play-off phase.

As neither Lugano or Young Boys have won the cup you would expect the higher placed side in the league would get precedent and go direct into the play-off phase. Young Boys finished 3rd, with Lugano 4th.

So if Basel win the cup I expect Young Boys will get the play-off place with Lugano alongside us in the 2nd qualifying phase.

Phew.

[Bristolhibby]

Pardon my ignorance but is “Partizan” aka Partizan Belgrade ?!

Yes. Fans nicknamed “The Gravediggers”.

Always said the two countries I wouldn’t watch a club game was Serbia and Turkey. I’ll add Beitar Jerusalem to that list. (Racist chunts that they are).

Hope they have cleaned up their act since this https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-12279960.amp

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[Paulie Walnuts]

It would be played in Germany at Schalke’s stadium.

Do we know if fans would be allowed? I can’t see why they wouldn’t be..

[Thatdayinmay16]

It would be played in Germany at Schalke’s stadium.

Take back everything I just said, what an outstanding stadium and potential away tie that would be.

[Ribs1875]

Apologies if already stated, but when is our first draw date and dates for both legs?

[Stuart93]

Apologies if already stated, but when is our first draw date and dates for both legs?

18th of June according to wiki

[Bristolhibby]

18th of June according to wiki

Here if anyone wants to read up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%9326_UEFA_Europa_League_qualifying_phas e_and_play-off_round

[ChuckNor]

Do you by chance know if the game would be played behind closed doors? If so probably one of the ties we want to avoid.

It would likely be played in Germany or Poland. Understandably, the Ukrainian clubs are not what they used to be but they should still beat us. At the moment they would be of a standard that is better than Rangers but worse than Celtic. They may go on a signing spree though.

[Hibees1973]

Another few sides to add to the mix are Dinamo Zagreb, Hapoel Be'er Sheva, Hammarby & Zira (Azerbaijan)

Depends on the result of the domestic cup finals in all countries but the odds are on these sides entering the Europa League 1st qualifying round. If they get through this round we could play them.

More likely we could face Dinamo Zagreb or Hapoel Be'er Sheva as they have high co-efficients and could be seeded.

[scm70nyd1973]

I dunno, watching Hibs in an actual active war zone would add an extra element. We should ask our neighbours, who actually won a world war, for advice.

Pointless,they would regard it as a piddly wee war and not the biggliest on the go - so no interest from them 🤭

[CallumLaidlaw]

It would likely be played in Germany or Poland. Understandably, the Ukrainian clubs are not what they used to be but they should still beat us. At the moment they would be of a standard that is better than Rangers but worse than Celtic. They may go on a signing spree though.

I know it doesn’t give you the full picture but the market value on Transfermarkt of teams squad that we could face are -

Braga €125m
Anderlecht €103m
Shakhtar €165m
Maccabi Tel aviv €26m
FC Midtjylland €64.4m
Legia Warsaw €36.4m
Partizan Belgrade €27.6m
Sheriff Tiraspol €7.5m
Lugano €64.9m


Hibs are €15.5m

For comparison, Celtic are €130m and rangers are €79m


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[Hibernian Verse]

Do we know if fans would be allowed? I can’t see why they wouldn’t be..

Yeah they will be.

[Haymaker]

Partisan Belgrade would be... interesting

[SteveHFC]

On the Conference League 2025-26 wikipedia there is a 'Note' to say that Lugano will go into the Europa league if Basel win the cup. Basel play a team from the Swiss 3rd tier, so you expect Basel will win. The Swiss will have two sides in the Europa League. Young Boys are currently showing in the 2nd qualifying phase with us. The Swiss will also have a side which goes directly into the play-off phase. It isn't completely clear if it's Lugano or Young Boys who go direct to the play-off phase.

As neither Lugano or Young Boys have won the cup you would expect the higher placed side in the league would get precedent and go direct into the play-off phase. Young Boys finished 3rd, with Lugano 4th.

So if Basel win the cup I expect Young Boys will get the play-off place with Lugano alongside us in the 2nd qualifying phase.

Phew.

Sounds about right exactly what should have happened to us
Also notice shaktar could well go straight into Europa league depends who wins the Croatia final on friday

[Booker5time]

I know it doesn’t give you the full picture but the market value on Transfermarkt of teams squad that we could face are -

Braga €125m
Anderlecht €103m
Shakhtar €165m
Maccabi Tel aviv €26m
FC Midtjylland €64.4m
Legia Warsaw €36.4m
Partizan Belgrade €27.6m
Sheriff Tiraspol €7.5m
Lugano €64.9m


Hibs are €15.5m

For comparison, Celtic are €130m and rangers are €79m


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Hmm that just shows how difficult is going to be for us if there the kind of seeding teams we can get in this round. Shows how important it is that we need to qualify for Europe ever season and start winning some games to build our our own points up, other wise it almost impossible to make any group stages if you going to be on the unseeded side all the way threw the draws.

[Ship of Hope]

They aren't wrong but as stated only 3 of these teams confirmed. Others have to go through Q1 first. Possible a few could get knocked out. Wiki page explains it quite well.

Read we win two qualifying rounds and we are guaranteed group stage football.. then saw the likely opponents.. now my pals all say I am the most optimistic hibby they know but that will be a couple of really tough gigs.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Read we win two qualifying rounds and we are guaranteed group stage football.. then saw the likely opponents.. now my pals all say I am the most optimistic hibby they know but that will be a couple of really tough gigs.

We'll win em all and enjoy the relative riches of the Europa League league phase while the Dons will be punted out of the Europa and into the Conference faster than a maroon rover on its way to happy hour at the golf club.

We'll have the last laugh on all those smug *****

Wouldn't be one bit surprised if hearts are out of the league cup before we're out of Europe

[Ship of Hope]

We'll win em all and enjoy the relative riches of the Europa League league phase while the Dons will be punted out of the Europa and into the Conference faster than a maroon rover on its way to happy hour at the golf club.

We'll have the last laugh on all those smug *****

Wouldn't be one bit surprised if hearts are out of the league cup before we're out of Europe

Haha.. hope you are right.. anything is possible ..

[badabing67]

On the Conference League 2025-26 wikipedia there is a 'Note' to say that Lugano will go into the Europa league if Basel win the cup. Basel play a team from the Swiss 3rd tier, so you expect Basel will win. The Swiss will have two sides in the Europa League. Young Boys are currently showing in the 2nd qualifying phase with us. The Swiss will also have a side which goes directly into the play-off phase. It isn't completely clear if it's Lugano or Young Boys who go direct to the play-off phase.

As neither Lugano or Young Boys have won the cup you would expect the higher placed side in the league would get precedent and go direct into the play-off phase. Young Boys finished 3rd, with Lugano 4th.

So if Basel win the cup I expect Young Boys will get the play-off place with Lugano alongside us in the 2nd qualifying phase.

Phew.


I think the game is on Sunday

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Sheriff don’t play their European ties in Transnistria.

That’s a deal breaker then, don’t want them anymore. No interest in Chisinău.


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[EGL2000]

Partisan Belgrade would be... interesting

Belgrade is a brilliant city spent a week there in 2019 and loved it. Went to the basketball derby and probably the best sporting atmosphere I've ever witnessed.

[DIXIHIBS]

Belgrade is a brilliant city spent a week there in 2019 and loved it. Went to the basketball derby and probably the best sporting atmosphere I've ever witnessed.

Belgrade like many other European cities are great as a tourist, might be slightly different as an opposition football fan unfortunately.

[theonlywayisup]

What's Bodo/Glimt's formula for getting to the Europa Cup semi finals, only losing to the winners of the competition.

[Bushwoof]

That’s a deal breaker then, don’t want them anymore. No interest in Chisinău.


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What's wrong with Chisinau? I was thinking of taking the train from Bucharest.

[bingo70]

What's Bodo/Glimt's formula for getting to the Europa Cup semi finals, only losing to the winners of the competition.

They certainly don’t just give up before the draw is made for a start 😂

[Hibernian Verse]

What's Bodo/Glimt's formula for getting to the Europa Cup semi finals, only losing to the winners of the competition.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/apr/30/one-big-dream-bodo-glimts-modern-miracle-built-on-history-and-humility

[EGL2000]

What's Bodo/Glimt's formula for getting to the Europa Cup semi finals, only losing to the winners of the competition.

Well for a start they actually spend a decent amount of money I think some people think they are doing all this on a tiny budget. Spent 7 million this season alone on transfer fees. Huge home advantage playing in the arctic circle and on that pitch. Also just very well coached.

I think the main reason though is they have managed to get some really good fees for their players. Last 3 seasons transfer revenue is 20,19 and 14 million. Figures we can only dream of.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Belgrade is a brilliant city spent a week there in 2019 and loved it. Went to the basketball derby and probably the best sporting atmosphere I've ever witnessed.

Stayed there for a couple of nights on the way to Macedonia for a Scotland game, great place.

[hibsbollah]

They certainly don’t just give up before the draw is made for a start 😂

:faf: Good point well made.

[Since90+2]

Does anyone know the teams Hear7s could get?

[badabing67]

Does anyone know the teams Hear7s could get?


East Fife could be one.... Hopefully Dick would smash the other Dick

[DH1875]

They'd play in Hungary, only European country where it is politically acceptable to host Israel at the moment.

Maccabi Tel Aviv played their home European games in Belgrade this season.

[Hibbyradge]

I can remember days when showing your support for Hibs was likely to get you sectioned.

:hilarious

[MKHIBEE]

I can remember days when showing your support for Hibs was likely to get you sectioned.

Im sure there’s many a time we have thought “We must be mad”

[Liam6270]

Oh a political post on a football forum, there was me thinking this was about Hibs potential opponents! Silly me

[Keith_M]

Don't fancy anywhere where it is mainly Russia speaking and Russia would want as part of its next objective....


Давай, Эдинбург Хиберниан!

[Deek9]

Maybe the wrong thread for this. On realising tomorrow the draw is made for the league Cup, I wondered when was the last time both Hibs and Hearts qualified for Europe in the same season. Apparently it was 1992/93! We qualified by winning the Skol Cup before that prize was taken away from the League Cup winners.

[Keith_M]

Maybe the wrong thread for this. On realising tomorrow the draw is made for the league Cup, I wondered when was the last time both Hibs and Hearts qualified for Europe in the same season. Apparently it was 1992/93! We qualified by winning the Skol Cup before that prize was taken away from the League Cup winners.


I don't remember that season very well but it must have been amazing having two Edinburgh clubs playing in Europe

[SteveHFC]

Maybe the wrong thread for this. On realising tomorrow the draw is made for the league Cup, I wondered when was the last time both Hibs and Hearts qualified for Europe in the same season. Apparently it was 1992/93! We qualified by winning the Skol Cup before that prize was taken away from the League Cup winners.

Thought it was 2016/17?

[JohnM1875]

Maybe the wrong thread for this. On realising tomorrow the draw is made for the league Cup, I wondered when was the last time both Hibs and Hearts qualified for Europe in the same season. Apparently it was 1992/93! We qualified by winning the Skol Cup before that prize was taken away from the League Cup winners.

We both qualified in 2023 nah? They finished fourth and we finished fifth. Celtic won the Scottish Cup so 5th got Europe.

[jakeshibs]

I despair.

Surely you are at it?


Please explain

[Swedish hibee]

Back to Hibs, when is the draw?
Is it Thursday nights only for us?

[HNA12]

Can we get this one back on track please and just talk about potential opponents and keep the politics for the Holy Ground.

[Deek9]

We both qualified in 2023 nah? They finished fourth and we finished fifth. Celtic won the Scottish Cup so 5th got Europe.

Knew I should have double checked!

[JasonC1875]

Back to Hibs, when is the draw?
Is it Thursday nights only for us?

18th June
Aye

[Springbank]

Back to Hibs, when is the draw?
Is it Thursday nights only for us?

Keeping it to the football - does anyone know where our potential opponent Shakhtar Donetsk are playing their "home" games in Europe in 2025/26?

I seem to recall they've played in eastern Poland and in eastern Germany at different times over the last 2 years

Germany might be a good trip to see the away game if we draw Donetsk but anyone know where they'll be playing ties this summer?

[The Sundance Kid]

Keeping it to the football - does anyone know where our potential opponent Shakhtar Donetsk are playing their "home" games in Europe in 2025/26?

I seem to recall they've played in eastern Poland and in eastern Germany at different times over the last 2 years

Germany might be a good trip to see the away game if we draw Donetsk but anyone know where they'll be playing ties this summer?

Last season they played in Gelsenkirchen at Schalke’s Veltins Arena in Western Germany. That was for Champions League group games though, I do wonder if they may move to a smaller ground for Europa League qualifiers potentially

[Springbank]

Last season they played in Gelsenkirchen at Schalke’s Veltins Arena in Western Germany. That was for Champions League group games though, I do wonder if they may move to a smaller ground for Europa League qualifiers potentially

Now that would be a great trip and a big away support allocation guaranteed:aok:

[Shrekko]

Just over on JKB and one of them is praying that Brighton knock us out of the Conference.... another of them has just had to break the bad news to him..

[Springbank]

Just over on JKB and one of them is praying that Brighton knock us out of the Conference.... another of them has just had to break the bad news to him..

They'll have been understandably side-tracked by today's League Cup Group Stages draw, with the Ghost of Knockouts Past (Brora Rangers) being the one for Hearts to avoid.

There are levels to this game, after all....

[badabing67]

They'll have been understandably side-tracked by today's League Cup Group Stages draw, with the Ghost of Knockouts Past (Brora Rangers) being the one for Hearts to avoid.

There are levels to this game, after all....

Dunfermline have form for knocking them out off the league cup group stage

[HNA11]

Sadly it appears this has ran it's course. Football is just an afterthought on this thread now vThere were repeated requests to keep the politics out of it, repeated requests that went ignored so a thread about our potential European opposition is being closed.

[HNA11]

Thread now reopened.

Spending a Thursday morning from 7am reading through 7 pages and removing countless posts wasn't how I planned to start my day.

The point has been made before that members of the admin team aren't unfeeling robots, we all have our own thoughts on the situation in Gaza and Ukraine. However this part of the forum is a football board and much of the discussion had little to nothing to do with Hibs or football. To be really blunt we aren't here to police that and the many reported posts that go with it.

Apologies to anyone caught up in this who has had posts deleted because of something they quoted or that was borederline but we have bene fairly ruthless.

Please take the warnings on board and keep this thread to football. Thanks.

[LancsHibs]

Looks like the teams involved are pretty much sorted on the wiki page except the Swiss entrants! Young Boys or Lugano, seems to depend on today’s Swiss cup final that doesn’t involve either of these clubs? Too complicated for me to work out!!

[SHODAN]

Dunfermline away please.

[SteveHFC]

Looks like the teams involved are pretty much sorted on the wiki page except the Swiss entrants! Young Boys or Lugano, seems to depend on today’s Swiss cup final that doesn’t involve either of these clubs? Too complicated for me to work out!!

Basel win then young boys in playoff round and lugano in our round

[Bristolhibby]

Basel win then young boys in playoff round and lugano in our round

That’s what we want surely? No way we want to be playing Young Boys at this stage.

J

[SteveHFC]

That’s what we want surely? No way we want to be playing Young Boys at this stage.

J

Think I have heard this before but basle win it easily

[Wilson]

Think I have heard this before but basle win it easily

Funnily enough though, it is Young Boys that this team beat in the last round!

[SteveHFC]

Funnily enough though, it is Young Boys that this team beat in the last round!

Could be tight game and knowing our luck!

[SteveHFC]

Could be tight game and knowing our luck!

0-0 after 15mins
Biel-Bienne 3rd tier team and play in all red what could go wrong

[Wilson]

0-0 after 15mins
Biel-Bienne 3rd tier team and play in all red what could go wrong

I was loathe to mention that Basel II beat them in the league. It sounds scarily similar to the "Celtic second string" argument! Still. Come on Basel!

[SteveHFC]

I was loathe to mention that Basel II beat them in the league. It sounds scarily similar to the "Celtic second string" argument! Still. Come on Basel!

1-0 Basel ht

Now 4-1 basle lugano it is

[LancsHibs]

4-1 Basel now, 80 mins played

[Wilson]

4-1 Basel now, 80 mins played

Our luck is turning. Supporting hibs has become more stressful when we're NOT playing!

[LancsHibs]

Our luck is turning. Supporting hibs has become more stressful when we're NOT playing!

Ha ha, true, last weekends cup final was too much!!

[badabing67]

I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Winner of the tie involving Shakhtar Donetsk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Shakhtar_Donetsk)
Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

[Dashing Bob S]

I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

Revenge tie v Anderlecht

0-2 Hibs at CVDS
1-1 at ER

[bingo70]

I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

Hibs observer are saying that although they don’t regionalise the draw, they sort of informally do by splitting the draw into two sections and generally try to keep countries close to each other together. I can’t be others looking for the article but they suggested teams from Northern Europe would always get out in the same section as British teams. I’d guess from that there’s a higher chance we will get midgetland, Utrecht or Anderlecht than some of the other further afield sides?

Edit:- I think you’re missing a team from the seeded section? Should that be shakhtar donetsk?

[The Sundance Kid]

Hibs observer are saying that although they don’t regionalise the draw, they sort of informally do by splitting the draw into two sections and generally try to keep countries close to each other together. I can’t be others looking for the article but they suggested teams from Northern Europe would always get out in the same section as British teams. I’d guess from that there’s a higher chance we will get midgetland, Utrecht or Anderlecht than some of the other further afield sides?

I did read that but not entirely sure how correct it is. We’ve played the likes of Asteras, Maribor, Rijeka etc. from South-East Europe over the last few years and I’m not sure how they would fit into regionalising.

[badabing67]

I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Winner of the tie involving Shakhtar Donetsk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Shakhtar_Donetsk)
Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

FTFY Bingo

[JeMeSouviens]

I did read that but not entirely sure how correct it is. We’ve played the likes of Asteras, Maribor, Rijeka etc. from South-East Europe over the last few years and I’m not sure how they would fit into regionalising.

These are the groups from the EL QR2 draw last year (copied from https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/028e-1b11770880b5-aa0093907b92-1000--uefa-europa-league-second-qualifying-round-draw/:


Groupings

Group 1

Seeded:
AFC Ajax (NED)
Molde FK (NOR)
SK Rapid Wien (AUT)
Trabzonspor A.Ş. (TUR)
Cercle Brugge KSV (BEL)

Unseeded:
MFK Ružomberok (SVK) - FC Tobol (KAZ)
Kilmarnock FC (SCO)
Silkeborg IF (DEN)
FK Vojvodina (SRB)
KF Llapi 1932 (KOS) - Wisła Kraków (POL)

Group 2

Seeded:
SC Braga (POR)
FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA) - PFC Zire (AZE)
HNK Rijeka (CRO)
PFC Botev Plovdiv (BUL) - NK Maribor (SVN)

Unseeded:
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
Maccabi Petah Tikva FC (ISR)
IF Elfsborg (SWE) - Pafos FC (CYP)
Paksi FC (HUN) - FC Corvinul Hunedoara (ROU)


It doesn't mention regions but does say:


The UEFA administration may form groups for the draw in accordance with the principles set by the Club Competitions Committee. Clubs from the same association cannot be drawn against each other.

A draw is conducted to determine the ties of each match and which team plays the first leg match at home.

In accordance with the relevant decisions of the UEFA Executive Committee, teams from the following associations may not be drawn against each other:

Armenia – Azerbaijan
Gibraltar – Spain
Kosovo – Bosnia and Herzegovina
Kosovo – Serbia
Kosovo – Russia*
Ukraine – Russia*
Ukraine – Belarus

Clear as mud.

I guess there's a bit of politics going on. The Serbs are kept away from Croats and Slovenes, Turks from Greek Cypriots etc.

[CapitalGreen]

These are the groups from the EL QR2 draw last year (copied from https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/028e-1b11770880b5-aa0093907b92-1000--uefa-europa-league-second-qualifying-round-draw/:



It doesn't mention regions but does say:



Clear as mud.

I guess there's a bit of politics going on. The Serbs are kept away from Croats and Slovenes, Turks from Greek Cypriots etc.

Looks like the regionalisation is applied to the unseeded teams only.

[Green Man]

Every year the European draws come round, I go looking for the “principles set by the club competitions committee”. I’ve never been able to find them.

Edit: I’ve actually found them this time, this is the version for the season just ended: https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0294-1c89aa627783-dd4ede8ac398-1000/club_competitions_committee_-_principles_for_stadium_city_clashes_2024-25_updated_for_ko_phase.pdf

Still doesn’t make it clear how they decide on the groupings :rolleyes:

[overdrive]

Hibs observer are saying that although they don’t regionalise the draw, they sort of informally do by splitting the draw into two sections and generally try to keep countries close to each other together. I can’t be others looking for the article but they suggested teams from Northern Europe would always get out in the same section as British teams. I’d guess from that there’s a higher chance we will get midgetland, Utrecht or Anderlecht than some of the other further afield sides?

Edit:- I think you’re missing a team from the seeded section? Should that be shakhtar donetsk?

I don't think we can draw Utrecht as they are unseeded too.

[BS44]

28861

[bingo70]

28861

So one of Braga, midtjylland, Anderlecht or Lugano.

I know midtjylland have done well in Europe recently but would they be likely to lose players most summers on the back of doing well? I know we’d be big underdogs but would we have any sort of a chance against them?

[Paul1642]

Teams we can face in QR2:

Seeded confirmed in QR2
Braga
Midtjylland
Anderlecht
Lugano

Seeded if they win in QR1:
Shakhtar
Legia Warsaw
Sheriff
Partizan

Unseeded from QR1 who we could only face if they win against Shakhtar, Sheriff, Partizan or Warsaw in QR1:

Larnaca
Häcken
Paks
Levski Sofia
Sabah
Ilves
Aktobe
Prishtina

[I'm_cabbaged]

Sorry I’ve missed it, but happens if we win this and lose the 3rd qualifying round?

[Paul1642]

So one of Braga, midtjylland, Anderlecht or Lugano.

I know midtjylland have done well in Europe recently but would they be likely to lose players most summers on the back of doing well? I know we’d be big underdogs but would we have any sort of a chance against them?

I’d say it’d be very difficult. At glance, they seem about on par with Lugano but with the benefit for us that Midtjylland would be seeded in QR3 unlike Lugano so it’s probably the preferable of the two since we would become seeded for QR3 by beating them. Probably the joint 4th hardest draw after Shakhtar, Braga and Anderlecht.

We would be playing them right at the start of their League which historically seems to benefit Scandinavian teams in the early stages of Europe, though they do start a lot later than the Swedish and Norwegian leagues so it’s less of a factor.

[Paul1642]

Sorry I’ve missed it, but happens if we win this and lose the 3rd qualifying round?

We drop to the conference league playoff round, which is an all or nothing tie to enter the conference league groups or go home.

[Del Boy]

anyone tell me what time the draw is at on the 18th?

[I'm_cabbaged]

We drop to the conference league playoff round, which is an all or nothing tie to enter the conference league groups or go home.

Aye, just found it. It’s a tough ask if we’re going into each round unseeded. Would be one of the clubs biggest accomplishments reaching the league stage of either!

[Paul1642]

Aye, just found it. It’s a tough ask if we’re going into each round unseeded. Would be one of the clubs biggest accomplishments reaching the league stage of either!

We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

Seeded:
“Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

Seeded:
“5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.

[I'm_cabbaged]

We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

Seeded:
“Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

Seeded:
“5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.

Thanks Paul, just get through this one and hope for the best, eh!!

[SteveHFC]

28861

Braga’s stadium is iconic.

[overdrive]

We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

Seeded:
“Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

Seeded:
“5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.

When did that change? It was "confirmed" that the loser of the tie involving Hibernian would be unseeded in the CL QR 3 when I looked a couple of weeks ago. The wikipedia entry has now moved us/our Europa League opponents to the be confirmed column from the unseeded column.

[HFC93]

Braga’s stadium is iconic.

Braga would be an unbelievable trip. We'd get a doing though as they're a top team.

[Fergus52]

We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

Seeded:
“Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

Seeded:
“5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.

Don't think this is quite right - if we were in the Europa Q3 when the conference play-off draw was made we would be unseeded no matter who we are playing. As UEFA assume the unseeded team will lose, so use their coefficient in the draw for the next round in the lower tiered competition.

[james62]

We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

Seeded:
“Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

Seeded:
“5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.

I don't think that is correct, there are 13 unseeded teams with a higher coefficient than us. This website is far more accurate than Wikipedia when it comes to these things,

https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedco2025.html

[Hibees1973]

Yeah, the wiki pages for these European competitions change by the day. Us and other teams have switched between 'seeded / unconfirmed /unseeded' over the last couple of weeks.

Maybe closer to the draw they will be authentic, but as it stands no one knows really if the easier path to league stage football by Christmas is via the Europa or Conference League.

We could be drawn against Braga in the Europa League, get punted, then AZ Alkmaar in the Conference League and we will be out. Know this is negative but these would be a couple of good trips.

It will be clearer in two weeks time.

[Fergus52]

Yeah, the wiki pages for these European competitions change by the day. Us and other teams have switched between 'seeded / unconfirmed /unseeded' over the last couple of weeks.

Maybe closer to the draw they will be authentic, but as it stands no one knows really if the easier path to league stage football by Christmas is via the Europa or Conference League.

We could be drawn against Braga in the Europa League, get punted, then AZ Alkmaar in the Conference League and we will be out. Know this is negative but these would be a couple of good trips.

It will be clearer in two weeks time.

The Bert kassies site listed above is generally better than the wikipedia, I've found

[Dalkeith Hibs]

Has it been announced where Lugano & Shakhtar will be playing there home games?

[scoopyboy]

Has it been announced where Lugano & Shakhtar will be playing there home games?

Why are Lugano not using their own ground?

[the_ginger_hibee]

Has it been announced where Lugano & Shakhtar will be playing there home games?

FC Thun's ground for Lugano. I don't think Lugano's ground is UEFA compliant, looks like it will be in 2026 after some work. https://www.fclugano.com/thun-ospitera-lfc-lugano/

Shakhtar were playing last seasons European games at Schalke's stadium. There is an article indicating they'll be moving to Krakow for European games this season though. https://sportnews.az/en/football/shakhtar-will-hold-european-cup-matches-in-poland

[micksoo]

Why are Lugano not using their own ground?

Doesn’t meet UEFA requirements.

[JeMeSouviens]

FC Thun's ground for Lugano. I don't think Lugano's ground is UEFA compliant, looks like it will be in 2026 after some work. https://www.fclugano.com/thun-ospitera-lfc-lugano/

Shakhtar were playing last seasons European games at Schalke's stadium. There is an article indicating they'll be moving to Krakow for European games this season though. https://sportnews.az/en/football/shakhtar-will-hold-european-cup-matches-in-poland

Thun is beautiful and easy to get to from Geneva and Basel. Suppose not hugely different to Luzern but still, good trip.

[SteveHFC]

Thun is beautiful and easy to get to from Geneva and Basel. Suppose not hugely different to Luzern but still, good trip.

Hotels are more expensive than basel

[Since90+2]

Braga would be an unbelievable trip. We'd get a doing though as they're a top team.

I'm not sure we'd get a doing, we'd very likely lose the tie but I don't think they're anything close to Villa who absolutely schooled us. If we had the first tie at home I think we'd be competitive, probably lose by a couple over there though.

[bingo70]

I'm not sure we'd get a doing, we'd very likely lose the tie but I don't think they're anything close to Villa who absolutely schooled us. If we had the first tie at home I think we'd be competitive, probably lose by a couple over there though.

I think a lot could depend on when seasons start. If we are a week or two ahead of our opposition in terms of preparing for the season ahead, that could be a bit of a leveller as well. Same applies in reverse unfortunately too.

If you’re talking about a gulf as big as it was between us and Villa then it won’t make that much of a difference but if it’s a team comparable with the likes of rangers and Celtic then it’d give us a bit more of a chance.

[HIBS NUTS]

Apparently shakhtar will play their home games in Poland , behind closed doors.

[Hibernian Verse]

Apparently shakhtar will play their home games in Poland , behind closed doors.

Where are you seeing behind closed doors? They didn't last season so not sure why Krakow will be different.

[HIBS NUTS]

Where are you seeing behind closed doors? They didn't last season so not sure why Krakow will be different.

They played in Germany last year I think, UEFA generally don’t allow netraul venues open to fans.
I’m Mabye wrong, as Krakow would be brilliant.👍

[Hibernian Verse]

They played in Germany last year I think, UEFA generally don’t allow netraul venues open to fans.
I’m Mabye wrong, as Krakow would be brilliant.👍

They played at the Schalke arena and fans were permitted.

[HIBS NUTS]

They played at the Schalke arena and fans were permitted.

Thanks
Hopefully we all meet in Krakow 👍

[Green Man]

Dynamo Kyiv had fans at their “home” games last season as well (they played in Hamburg). Belarusian teams have been ordered to play behind closed doors due to Belarus’s support for Russia in the Ukraine conflict, so Hearts had no fans away to Dinamo Minsk.

[DH1875]

Quite fancy the look of Lugano and always planned on making the trip to lake Como. Pity they don't play there in European games as would have been ideal excuse.

[FilipinoHibs]

Braga would be an unbelievable trip. We'd get a doing though as they're a top team.

Father's family came from Braga before going to Brasil. Good for the religious fans to.

[JasonC1875]

Apologies if this has already been said but looking at the teams in the QR1 draw, Partizan Belgrade and FC Prishtina will be kept apart in the pre draw groupings. Meaning the winners of both ties will then also be kept apart in our draw on Wednesday.

Might no mean much for us but be interesting to see who Prishtina get on Tuesday to at least then narrow down who one of the seeded teams will be in each grouping on Wednesday

[CapitalGreen]

Apologies if this has already been said but looking at the teams in the QR1 draw, Partizan Belgrade and FC Prishtina will be kept apart in the pre draw groupings. Meaning the winners of both ties will then also be kept apart in our draw on Wednesday.

Might no mean much for us but be interesting to see who Prishtina get on Tuesday to at least then narrow down who one of the seeded teams will be in each grouping on Wednesday

The groupings are set to be out at 8am on Wednesday before the draw at midday.

[HIBS NUTS]

The groupings are set to be out at 8am on Wednesday before the draw at midday.

We’re will we find the information, IEFA site ?

[CapitalGreen]

We’re will we find the information, IEFA site ?

Yeah I presume so here - https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/draws/

The club will also be notified and likely publish it on socials.

[Hibees1973]

Apologies if this has already been said but looking at the teams in the QR1 draw, Partizan Belgrade and FC Prishtina will be kept apart in the pre draw groupings. Meaning the winners of both ties will then also be kept apart in our draw on Wednesday.

Might no mean much for us but be interesting to see who Prishtina get on Tuesday to at least then narrow down who one of the seeded teams will be in each grouping on Wednesday

It is interesting to me this kind of thing. How UEFA do their pre-draw gymnastics around current geopolitical issues is fascinating. If we progress further in either competition we are likely to be affected some way.

[Fro62_in_Leith]

Apparently shakhtar will play their home games in Poland , behind closed doors.

Just read that Shakhtar will play their R1 and R2 games in Ljubljana.

[Fro62_in_Leith]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DK9ebMAN92I/?igsh=ZDVqcmFqbzYwaG1w

[Bishop Hibee]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DK9ebMAN92I/?igsh=ZDVqcmFqbzYwaG1w

Tough opponents but it would be a great trip for us fans.

[Frazerbob]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DK9ebMAN92I/?igsh=ZDVqcmFqbzYwaG1w

Visited that stadium with Scotland a few years back. Great city!

[LaMotta]

Just read that Shakhtar will play their R1 and R2 games in Ljubljana.

That's the third country/city I've read they'll play in (Schalke, Krakow now Ljubljana.) Yet don't see it confirmed officially anywhere. Going to be tricky booking things if we get them....

[HIBS NUTS]

Just read that Shakhtar will play their R1 and R2 games in Ljubljana.

Aye Slovenian, is it hard to get to

[Thatdayinmay16]

Aye Slovenian, is it hard to get to

Just checked via SkyScanner, no direct flights, but can connect via Germany.

Seems easy enough to get too.

[JasonC1875]

Just checked via SkyScanner, no direct flights, but can connect via Germany.

Seems easy enough to get too.

Decent transport links from Venice, Trieste and Zagreb too

[SteveHFC]

Just checked via SkyScanner, no direct flights, but can connect via Germany.

Seems easy enough to get too.

last time we played in slovenia went manchester to munich then car, remember being in mcds early on match day and guy appeared with couple of kids in a car drove all the way:thumbsup: