Old firms reaction to decisions against them !

[Donegal Hibby]

Just after reading Craig Moore calling out the goal they thought they should have had against us again …

https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/craig-moore-raging-about-controversial-referee-who-needed-chasing-after-rangers-goal-blunder/

Both of them are like a dog with a bone if there’s a decision that goes against them they don’t like , it’s relentless in they are normally after someone’s head to roll . Unfortunately Willie Collum has obliged them already in throwing an official under the bus in trying to smooth things over which I don’t think has helped matters ..

I do wonder how much this affects officials judgement when refereeing games involving the OF ?

[Alan62]

There are two reasons why they create a massive stink every time that anything goes against them. The first is an incredible sense of entitlement. The second is to put as much pressure on referees and administrators as possible to miminise the chance of things going against them again.

[NAE NOOKIE]

If any proof were needed of their sense of self entitlement and desperation to air their never ending persecution complex this is it.

In the end it was a decision in an end of season dead rubber and any other club, apart from maybe the other arse cheek, would have had a moan about it on the day of the game and left it at that. They way they are going on you would think it had cost them a cup final.

Just part of their never ending agenda to pressure officials into giving them every bloody decision.

[McSwanky]

To be fair, I don't think it's just them that will moan about decisions going against them, corruption etc ad naseum. The difference is the coverage they get: outrage sells - especially through in the West. It suits the likes of the Sun/Daily Record's agenda to keep the conversation going as long as possible. Which feeds the outrage more. And so it continues - until the next "terrible" decision.

I think we all do it to a certain extent. As with pretty much everything in Scotland, it's just amplified 100x when it's one of those two.

[Pagan Hibernia]

To be fair, I don't think it's just them that will moan about decisions going against them, corruption etc ad naseum. The difference is the coverage they get: outrage sells - especially through in the West. It suits the likes of the Sun/Daily Record's agenda to keep the conversation going as long as possible. Which feeds the outrage more. And so it continues - until the next "terrible" decision.

I think we all do it to a certain extent. As with pretty much everything in Scotland, it's just amplified 100x when it's one of those two.

This is exactly it. I remember a period in the second half of last season, and I'm not excusing Monty's management, but we were genuinely getting shafted with decisions it felt like every week. And it barely got a mention. Was just met with a bit of amusement by fans of other clubs. No one cared.

One decision goes against the cheeks and we're all still reading about it a month later. They both of course have their legions of social media fans who will go on about it relentlessly

[bod]

If the the rangers goal had happened at the other end I’d like to think we’d react the same way

[hibsbollah]

This is exactly it. I remember a period in the second half of last season, and I'm not excusing Monty's management, but we were genuinely getting shafted with decisions it felt like every week. And it barely got a mention. Was just met with a bit of amusement by fans of other clubs. No one cared.

One decision goes against the cheeks and we're all still reading about it a month later. They both of course have their legions of social media fans who will go on about it relentlessly

:agree: January February 2024. Every week Hibs were getting screwed with crazy decisions for about 6 weeks. I recall Tom English the only one mentioning it had become a pattern. The crazy handball against aberdeen, the derby, a few against celtic, in fact most of the big games

[McD]

:agree: January February 2024. Every week Hibs were getting screwed with crazy decisions for about 6 weeks. I recall Tom English the only one mentioning it had become a pattern. The crazy handball against aberdeen, the derby, a few against celtic, in fact most of the big games


Was it during that run we had the crazy goal for Ross county where the guy body checked Marshall into the net?

[hibsbollah]

Was it during that run we had the crazy goal for Ross county where the guy body checked Marshall into the net?

That was the season before, 2023. I had forgotten the goal scorer, the far sighted seer Madame Yan Dhanda. Scorer of quite a few late goals against us in Dingwall-wonder if thats why Hearts signed the donkey. While checking, Ross County seem to be beneficiaries of daft mistakes resulting in goals every time we played them-wollacott passing it straight to their striker, rocky miss header, marshall flaps.

[Keith_M]

The Referees' strike... the only one I ever remember in Scotland... was initially triggered by the outrage of Neil Lennon as Celtc Manager, and later the Celtc Chairman.

That led to a pile on by the media, and abuse of the referee (and others) by Celtc Fans, later repeated by Fans of the other side of Scotland's Shame


Nothing much has changed.

[lyonhibs]

They don't like it up 'em Sir as a wise man once said

[gbhibby]

If Walsh or the lino had given the goal I would imagine it would have been checked by VAR and it would have been disallowed as the VAR did not have conclusive camera angles to say it crossed the line as all goals are checked. We have suffered years of the arse cheeks getting dubious decisions. It will go down in our history as a remarkable goal line clearance by Rocky.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[SaulGoodman]

If Walsh or the lino had given the goal I would imagine it would have been checked by VAR and it would have been disallowed as the VAR did not have conclusive camera angles to say it crossed the line as all goals are checked. We have suffered years of the arse cheeks getting dubious decisions. It will go down in our history as a remarkable goal line clearance by Rocky.🤣🤣🤣🤣

If the Ref gave the goal it wouldn’t have been overturned by VAR for the reason you say. If there’s no conclusive proof then the referee decision stands. That’s why there was such a fuss with the decision against Celtic. VAR overturned the Refs decision even though there was no conclusive camera angle.

It would’ve been a foul on Rocky anyway but our goal would be chopped off.

[Jim44]

Old firms reaction to decisions against them !

It smacks of one thing : ‘Don’t you know who we are?’

[GordonHFC]

If the the rangers goal had happened at the other end I’d like to think we’d react the same way

True but it wouldn't be on social media for a week afterwards.

[JimBHibees]

Old firms reaction to decisions against them !

It smacks of one thing : ‘Don’t you know who we are?’

And don’t ever do it again

[Donegal Hibby]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nico-raskin-rangers-ghost-goal-35280196

Did VAR not do that against Celtic when we played them which ultimately cost someone their job because Collum said it wasn’t conclusive? What’s the difference?

[matty_f]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nico-raskin-rangers-ghost-goal-35280196

Did VAR not do that against Celtic when we played them which ultimately cost someone their job because Collum said it wasn’t conclusive? What’s the difference?
They change the rules to suit. Wait for Collum telling the VAR review show that it was conclusive this time when the VAR ref said it wasn’t, in the complete opposite of the Celtic goal.
It’s a massive stitch up to appease them.

[Donegal Hibby]

They change the rules to suit. Wait for Collum telling the VAR review show that it was conclusive this time when the VAR ref said it wasn’t, in the complete opposite of the Celtic goal.
It’s a massive stitch up to appease them.

That’s exactly what they’re doing and I fully expect Collum to do so too which will leave that situation in , if you’re not sure just go with what suits the OF .

[Northernhibee]

They change the rules to suit. Wait for Collum telling the VAR review show that it was conclusive this time when the VAR ref said it wasn’t, in the complete opposite of the Celtic goal.
It’s a massive stitch up to appease them.

Whether conscious or unconscious bias, we’ve seen it long before VAR. Referees almost always from the west coast representing a FA based in Glasgow being reported on by media outlets from Glasgow.

VAR doesn’t fix that, greater diversity and equity in the running of the game in Scotland does.

[Ship of Hope]

Whether conscious or unconscious bias, we’ve seen it long before VAR. Referees almost always from the west coast representing a FA based in Glasgow being reported on by media outlets from Glasgow.

VAR doesn’t fix that, greater diversity and equity in the running of the game in Scotland does.
Except we benefited both times…now that is the kind of bias I can get right behind! The media spin is hilarious arguing one thing for Celtic game and opposite for rangers game.. they make themselves into a caricature of a real life journalist with their comical reporting.

[Northernhibee]

Except we benefited both times…now that is the kind of bias I can get right behind! The media spin is hilarious arguing one thing for Celtic game and opposite for rangers game.. they make themselves into a caricature of a real life journalist with their comical reporting.

We didn’t benefit as such as you can guarantee referees will be **** scared to call contentious decisions against those two in the future. Twice there has been the chance to back our officials and twice the panel has failed to do so.

[Ship of Hope]

We didn’t benefit as such as you can guarantee referees will be **** scared to call contentious decisions against those two in the future. Twice there has been the chance to back our officials and twice the panel has failed to do so.

What did the panel say about rangers disallowed goal? Didn’t see this.. you would think they would say that due to no conclusive evidence the ball was over the line the goal could not be given.. assume it was opposite..

[Northernhibee]

What did the panel say about rangers disallowed goal? Didn’t see this.. you would think they would say that due to no conclusive evidence the ball was over the line the goal could not be given.. assume it was opposite..

4-1 decision that VAR should have intervened and awarded a goal without calling the ref over.

[Donegal Hibby]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nico-raskin-rangers-ghost-goal-35280196

Did VAR not do that against Celtic when we played them which ultimately cost someone their job because Collum said it wasn’t conclusive? What’s the difference?

Same conclusion on …

https://youtu.be/veFI2Av95_A?si=R19dcDOj7xbW0yUe

[Chorley Hibee]

4-1 decision that VAR should have intervened and awarded a goal without calling the ref over.

You're joking?

So a complete contradiction of everything we were told, only a few weeks ago, about whether VAR should be involved without conclusive proof.

They should just admit that they change the rules depending upon who is playing.

[Ship of Hope]

You're joking?

So a complete contradiction of everything we were told, only a few weeks ago, about whether VAR should be involved without conclusive proof.

They should just admit that they change the rules depending upon who is playing.
Exactly this.. they really do have no shame. Do we know who the four muppets on the panel are or is this shrouded in secret handshakes?

[Bobby's Cinema]

Forensic analysis for weeks yet again. It was the same when Clement was unhappy with a pen given against him at ER. The same when Celtic complained a ball was not over the line.

As mentioned above, how can they vote 4-1 it should have been a goal when on-field decision is no goal and they can't confirm there is conclusive proof to award it?

Personally I don't believe ref's are out being deliberately crooked in Scotland. But I 100% believe the relentless nature of this sort of coverage brings pressure that filters its way through to officials in split second awards in games and influences decisions to favour certain clubs.

I think refs end up giving these incidents the attention that certain clubs demand, far more than any normal incident. So much so that they use it as a precedent for refereeing similar incidents in the weeks that follow.

[Greenbeard]

Consistent decision making from the VAR Panel from my perspective, viz. if it was a decision that disadvantaged either of the erse cheeks it was clearly wrong.

[BILLYHIBS]

Kris Boyd still greetin on YouTube about the goal that never was :

‘Imagine if it was helicopter Saturday? ‘

You wish 😎

Oh ma achin sides !

[matty_f]

Kris Boyd still greetin on YouTube about the goal that never was :

‘Imagine if it was helicopter Saturday? ‘

You wish 😎

Oh ma achin sides !

😂😂

[JimBHibees]

You're joking?

So a complete contradiction of everything we were told, only a few weeks ago, about whether VAR should be involved without conclusive proof.

They should just admit that they change the rules depending upon who is playing.

That panel isn't referees it is a mix of ex players managers and maybe ex refs. Colum was clear about this earlier in the season. Don't think it is the same people either just randoms fancying a free lunch :greengrin

[Iain G]

Am looking forward to the Sevconians sitting down to watch Prince Williams new documentary series focussing on Rangers and then the outrage when HRH isn't talking about them 😁

[Colr]

Just after reading Craig Moore calling out the goal they thought they should have had against us again …

https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/craig-moore-raging-about-controversial-referee-who-needed-chasing-after-rangers-goal-blunder/

Both of them are like a dog with a bone if there’s a decision that goes against them they don’t like , it’s relentless in they are normally after someone’s head to roll . Unfortunately Willie Collum has obliged them already in throwing an official under the bus in trying to smooth things over which I don’t think has helped matters ..

I do wonder how much this affects officials judgement when refereeing games involving the OF ?
Not content with having 10 times the budget of all the other teams. Entitled doesn’t even start to describe their attitude.

[BILLYHIBS]

Brenda Rodger’s going on and on about the ball that was out like spoilt brat

https://i.ibb.co/RpzJkRsD/23567-DD7-7556-4-A57-99-D9-72-FCE1-D09752.jpg (https://ibb.co/HDn9f5bH)

[gbhibby]

They change the rules to suit. Wait for Collum telling the VAR review show that it was conclusive this time when the VAR ref said it wasn’t, in the complete opposite of the Celtic goal.
It’s a massive stitch up to appease them.
VAR review will be interesting. It might be getting a bit crowded under that bus.

[Dan Sarf]

VAR review will be interesting. It might be getting a bit crowded under that bus.


:top marks

[O'Rourke3]

Have I missed it or has there been no VAR review You Tube for a few weeks? Funny that.

[Wheat Hound]

The refs view twitter account contradicting themselves with this one Vs our game against Celtic. Washed up ex refs pandering to the OF once again shock