Tony Docherty

[ekhibee]

Just got his jotters.. .

[SHODAN]

Will be at Hearts with McInnes I would imagine.

[Libby Hibby]

Will be at Hearts with McInnes I would imagine.

If he does then it’s more bottom six p!$h heading their way

[NAE NOOKIE]

Just got his jotters.. .

I think that's mental. Had his best player sold off before the start of the season and their defensive injury woes were well documented. Dundee have been a yoyo club for ages and this is a guy who has kept them in the top flight for 3 seasons.

Who do they think is going to do a better job with the kind of budget Docherty would have had to work with? Especially as they are about to lose their current best player Lyall Cameron to the Sticky Buns. The only manager currently working in the league who has over performed at Dundee's level is Steven Robinson and he aint leaving St Mirren to move sideways.

Fitba is mental.

[Trinity Hibee]

I think that's mental. Had his best player sold off before the start of the season and their defensive injury woes were well documented. Dundee have been a yoyo club for ages and this is a guy who has kept them in the top flight for 3 seasons.

Who do they think is going to do a better job with the kind of budget Docherty would have had to work with? Especially as they are about to lose their current best player Lyall Cameron to the Sticky Buns. The only manager currently working in the league who has over performed at Dundee's level is Steven Robinson and he aint leaving St Mirren to move sideways.

Fitba is mental.

Completely agree. With the top 5 teams (6 if you include DU) with larger budgets and St Mirren being very well run just now, what do Dundee expect? Their aim each season will be to stay in the league and they have done that.

[JJP]

I reckon they will go for Naismith but it would be odd if he ended up taking over at Killie from McInnes.

[Callum_62]

Seems pretty harsh to me - really surprising

Best player sold and 2nd player signed a pre contract in January

Tough gig

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[Pagan Hibernia]

Cruel game. Imagine the relief he felt at avoiding the dreaded playoff yesterday... only to get emptied first thing this morning.

Who'd be a manager (obviously the top leagues offer financial packages that make it all worth it).

[Betty Boop]

Sean Maloney for Dundee job

[Brizo]

Surprised at that.

Dundee have been the definition of a yo yo club this century and while it took them until the last game of the season to avoid the play-offs they avoided them. You wonder what their expectations are but they binned the boy who got them promoted and have now binned the boy who's kept them in the top flight for two whole seasons !

[Billy Whizz]

Sean Maloney for Dundee job

That’s the rumour, he’s a pal of Strachan

[Carheenlea]

That’s the rumour, he’s a pal of Strachan

Didn’t realise Strachan was still there?

Someone you never really hear about much now.

[Billy Whizz]

Didn’t realise Strachan was still there?

Someone you never really hear about much now.

He’s their technical director.

[Up-the-slope]

Just got his jotters.. .

strange one after he avoids play off - not as great as last season but others invested much more and sold off less than them - possibly that Untd have come up and past them does not help

[jacomo]

I think that's mental. Had his best player sold off before the start of the season and their defensive injury woes were well documented. Dundee have been a yoyo club for ages and this is a guy who has kept them in the top flight for 3 seasons.

Who do they think is going to do a better job with the kind of budget Docherty would have had to work with? Especially as they are about to lose their current best player Lyall Cameron to the Sticky Buns. The only manager currently working in the league who has over performed at Dundee's level is Steven Robinson and he aint leaving St Mirren to move sideways.

Fitba is mental.


Agreed. He did a good job there last season, ok this season was more of a struggle but who exactly do Dundee think they are? Being ambitious is fine but that club has no right to expect top six.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Not sure what Dundee expect tbh.

They've been relegated more times in Scottish football history than any other side.

Bottom 6 should be a given for them.

[greenlex]

Not sure what Dundee expect tbh.

They've been relegated more times in Scottish football history than any other side.

Bottom 6 should be a given for them.

We don’t know what their targets were but obviously scrapping around and having to win their last game to avoid the play off spot wasn’t one of them. The price of failing was the sack.

[SHODAN]

Dundee fans are raging at this decision it looks like.

[lucky]

Surprising and poor decision from an out of touch leadership team

[Wilson]

We don’t know what their targets were but obviously scrapping around and having to win their last game to avoid the play off spot wasn’t one of them. The price of failing was the sack.

Do they even know their target? They aren't a top six club. They aren't bigger than hearts in the bottom six. 8th to 10th is about right. So... be competitive in games. Check. Perform well enough that assets are sellable. Check. Don't get relegated. Check.

They obviously don't fancy Docherty to take them forward. The next guy will struggle though because it is a basket case decision and that is what he's up against.

[Wilson]

Surprising and poor decision from an out of touch leadership team

I can't see it any other way.

[CapitalGreen]

Fair enough, Dundee were absolutely s***e this season.

[badabing67]

Will be at Hearts with McInnes I would imagine.


Probably already there, that will be why Fox is away

[Baader]

Where do the board Dundee expect them to be? Another club in need of reality check I think...

[worcesterhibby]

Fair enough, Dundee were absolutely s***e this season.

thats nonsense.. they’ve won 11 matches and drawn 8, so have managed to gather points from exactly half their matches. They have drawn with both Celtic and Rangers and have beaten Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone and St mirren. On their day they have been great.. and there have been some cracking matches 3-4 loss to Rangers, 4-2 win against Dundee Utd.

they have less budget than pretty much every team above them. Main issue has been their form in the last third of the league matches, where they ran out of steam due to a small squad.

[jacomo]

We don’t know what their targets were but obviously scrapping around and having to win their last game to avoid the play off spot wasn’t one of them. The price of failing was the sack.


I'd imagine the target was another top six finish, but did they give the manager the budget to make that likely? I don't think they did.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think it’s harsh and a rash decision on Dundee’s behalf , he’s lost some of his best players . I don’t know what their expectations are and who they think they’ll get that will be any better, certainly don’t think the current favourite for the job is any better.

[JimBHibees]

I think that's mental. Had his best player sold off before the start of the season and their defensive injury woes were well documented. Dundee have been a yoyo club for ages and this is a guy who has kept them in the top flight for 3 seasons.

Who do they think is going to do a better job with the kind of budget Docherty would have had to work with? Especially as they are about to lose their current best player Lyall Cameron to the Sticky Buns. The only manager currently working in the league who has over performed at Dundee's level is Steven Robinson and he aint leaving St Mirren to move sideways.

Fitba is mental.

Totally agree absolutely ridiculous decision. Personally struggle with him a little but he has done a very good job. Has developed young players has him team playing in a very watchable style. Best player sold next best player signed a pre contract best defenders injured. Their performance in the most recent derby was tremendous. Also got Simon Murray playing his best ever. Astoundingly bad decision

[JimBHibees]

Fair enough, Dundee were absolutely s***e this season.

Clearly haven’t been

[CapitalGreen]

Clearly haven’t been

No good team concedes 77 goals in a league season, that’s horrendous. They are the only team to concede that many and survive in 25 seasons of the 12 team league. They aren’t good, they are lucky St Johnstone are worse.

[JimBHibees]

No good team concedes 77 goals in a league season, that’s horrendous. They are the only team to concede that many and survive in 25 seasons of the 12 team league. They aren’t good, they are lucky St Johnstone are worse.

Fair enough they have also scored loads and had significant defensive injuries

[Fifeshirehibs]

Just a gumbumper and poor coach, rattling away every week at everybody and everything and hasn't even coached his players to not try and play the ball when coming back onside. Some slack re Mccowan and Cameron, interesting vacancy though.

[CapitalGreen]

Fair enough they have also scored loads and had significant defensive injuries

Every team has injuries. They conceded 68 goals last season so it’s not like it’s a one off freak season defensively for them and there is little to suggest he’s going to turn things around next season.

[JimBHibees]

Every team has injuries. They conceded 68 goals last season so it’s not like it’s a one off freak season defensively for them and there is little to suggest he’s going to turn things around next season.

He did get top 6 year before and also lost his best player at the start of the season.

[B.H.F.C]

He did get top 6 year before and also lost his best player at the start of the season.

They finished top six but with a really low points total. I think that was almost a wee bit misleading to how good they actually were.

When we played them at ER recently I thought they were really poor.

[worcesterhibby]

Every team has injuries. They conceded 68 goals last season so it’s not like it’s a one off freak season defensively for them and there is little to suggest he’s going to turn things around next season.

they also scored more goals that the teams around them, football isn’t just about defending. Their goal difference over the season is only 7 worse than Aberdeen, who could have beaten us to 3rd until the last game of the season.

[CapitalGreen]

they also scored more goals that the teams around them, football isn’t just about defending. Their goal difference over the season is only 7 worse than Aberdeen, who could have beaten us to 3rd until the last game of the season.

Dundee survived relegation on the final day of the season while Aberdeen are in Europe and reached 2 cup finals - their seasons are in no way comparable.

[Donegal Hibby]

Every team has injuries. They conceded 68 goals last season so it’s not like it’s a one off freak season defensively for them and there is little to suggest he’s going to turn things around next season.

Not every team can cope with injuries due to different reasons though , squad depth , quality of squad or just losing your best players. The 68 goals they lost last season I think they lost 13 after the split when they made the top six and in one of them only lost 2-1 to Celtic who had scored something like 95 goals..

Only way he could turn things around was by giving him more time which I think he deserved in fairness. It will be interesting to see who they go for though IMO they put themselves into a really dangerous situation when they had a save pair of hands at the wheel.

[JJP]

I heard today (I think it was on PLZ Soccer) that Dundee are only 1 point worse off than last season which I found surprising. Last season that was enough for 6th place but this year it only got them 10th. If you lose a player of Luke McCowan's quality and are only 1 point worse off than last season then I think the decision to sack him seems harsh.

[Wilson]

No good team concedes 77 goals in a league season, that’s horrendous. They are the only team to concede that many and survive in 25 seasons of the 12 team league. They aren’t good, they are lucky St Johnstone are worse.

And Ross County?

They were the last team to beat St. Mirren. Not too shabby.

I don’t see the point in counting goals against. They lost 4 goals against Rangers. In that game Rangers lost 3. They are that kind of team. Nobody wants dour 0-1 games and then crucify a guy for stats that don't reflect that kind of score? Away to ****.

They are at the level they should be in this league. They looked good under Doc until players were sold or tied to a pre-contract yet they still got some good results. Dundee derby in March?

They will be poorer without him.

Hope he gets the killie gig or similar. Good coach.

[Since452]

It's up there with Hibs sacking Jack Ross. Wouldn't surprise me if Dundee go down next season.

[hibstag]

No good team concedes 77 goals in a league season, that’s horrendous. They are the only team to concede that many and survive in 25 seasons of the 12 team league. They aren’t good, they are lucky St Johnstone are worse.

Yep St Johnstone were down barring a miracle Dundee just managed to out perform Ross county who haven’t won in Seven to catch up and avoid the play off spot.

[Thatdayinmay16]

It's up there with Hibs sacking Jack Ross. Wouldn't surprise me if Dundee go down next season.

It's not even close to that scenario.

We'd just finished 3rd, had been in a SC final and a LC semi final, we didn't lose our best players, we just didn't strengthen properly.

I could be wrong but if it hadn't been for a 94th minute equaliser from Motherwell we'd have finished above them.

[eastmainsmsh]

Fair enough, Dundee were absolutely s***e this season.

Simon Murray goals prob saved them

[Billy Whizz]

Not sure if this is 100% true, but Docherty and the team were at the POTY awards on the Sunday night. A fan bid £450 for a round of golf with him. Hope he gets it refunded by the owner

The other story doing the rounds, is the coaching team went into Dens Park on the Monday morning, and their p45 letters were left for them

[SHODAN]

Not sure if this is 100% true, but Docherty and the team were at the POTY awards on the Sunday night. A fan bid £450 for a round of golf with him. Hope he gets it refunded by the owner

The other story doing the rounds, is the coaching team went into Dens Park on the Monday morning, and their p45 letters were left for them

Dundee's owners have come across as a right bunch for a while now. Seem to remember them making more than a few baffling managerial decisions.

[Wilson]

Simon Murray goals prob saved them

There spread of goals through their team us startlingly similar to ours. Murray leading the way but good contributions from elsewhere. They are an attacking team that can't defend. Not a one man team.

[allezsauzee]

I heard today (I think it was on PLZ Soccer) that Dundee are only 1 point worse off than last season which I found surprising. Last season that was enough for 6th place but this year it only got them 10th. If you lose a player of Luke McCowan's quality and are only 1 point worse off than last season then I think the decision to sack him seems harsh.

While that is true, they got 41 points pre split last season and took 1 point off the better teams. This season they had about 33/34 points pre split and picked up points against rubbish like Hearts. I do think it's a bit harsh on Docherty when you consider they sold their star player at the end of the summer transfer window, however the team they benchmark themselves against finished 4th and qualified for Europe. If it was Hearts finishing 4 the and us only getting safe on the last day, I suspect we'd be expecting decisive action so I can understand why it was done.