Triantis

[patlowe]

That's Nectar been nominated for the football writers' POTY alongside Maeda, Murray and McGregor - could be churlish and say he's been robbed of the YPOTY again but what an achievement to be nominated for the main gong at his age and in that position 👏

[Springbank]

In a world cup year, you'd have to think he would benefit (next season) from playing regularly, and in a team that plays to his strengths... great recognition too!
:flag:

[wookie70]

Crazy to be nominated for the main award and not the young player one. Is it because he looks older or plays like a more mature player

[Jim44]

That's Nectar been nominated for the football writers' POTY alongside Maeda, Murray and McGregor - could be churlish and say he's been robbed of the YPOTY again but what an achievement to be nominated for the main gong at his age and in that position 👏

Pleased for the guy. His future is very uncertain as he won’t know where he stands with Sunderland. His agent has said that his main objective is to sustain and strengthen his place in the Australia squad and must have regular top flight football. He could get that with us. He’s certainly not guaranteed that at Sunderland or in another loan season at another club.

[Since452]

Strange one. He's not even been the best Hibs player this season. Please for him though, he's done well.

[Smartie]

Strange one. He's not even been the best Hibs player this season. Please for him though, he's done well.

I think he has been, although I accept it's debatable.

What he has over other Hibs players is that he's played the full season. It could again be argued that having played through our dodgy start it actually takes away from his claim, but I think having been playing the whole season probably nudges him ahead of Smith, Rocky, Iredale and N Cadden - who would probably be the biggest other contenders to be named best Hibs player this season but who only really started playing regularly or at all in late November.. Boyle is another contender whose form picked up but who was still contributing throughout the sticky start.

[Lago]

Pleased for the guy. His future is very uncertain as he won’t know where he stands with Sunderland. His agent has said that his main objective is to sustain and strengthen his place in the Australia squad and must have regular top flight football. He could get that with us. He’s certainly not guaranteed that at Sunderland or in another loan season at another club.
He may not know his immediate future but one things for sure he's destined for a great top level career.

[JohnM1875]

That's Nectar been nominated for the football writers' POTY alongside Maeda, Murray and McGregor - could be churlish and say he's been robbed of the YPOTY again but what an achievement to be nominated for the main gong at his age and in that position 👏

Outrageous achievement! Well played, Nectar.

In relation to writers YPotY, I’m sure you need to be Scottish to be nominated for it.

[patlowe]

Outrageous achievement! Well played, Nectar.

In relation to writers YPotY, I’m sure you need to be Scottish to be nominated for it.

That would explain it 🙂

[Stairway 2 7]

That would explain it 🙂

Doesn't explain how Zurab Khizanishvili won it when at Dundee unless they thought Georgia was Gorgie

[gbhibby]

Nectars votes come with double points.

[Since452]

Can't be right. I thought Beni Baningime was the best midfielder in the league?

Triantis will be a big loss next season.

[JohnM1875]

Doesn't explain how Zurab Khizanishvili won it when at Dundee unless they thought Georgia was Gorgie

Haha, fair point. Had a look;

'As of 2019, the award had been restricted to players who are eligible for selection by the Scotland national under-21 football team'

Hibs with the most winners, probably no real surprise - Riordan, Brown, Fletcher x2 and Doig.

[Stairway 2 7]

Haha, fair point. Had a look;

'As of 2019, the award had been restricted to players who are eligible for selection by the Scotland national under-21 football team'

Hibs with the most winners, probably no real surprise - Riordan, Brown, Fletcher x2 and Doig.
Ha fair play. The choices this year are pretty poor probably as so many Scotland under 21s play down south.

Could be a negative for us signing Triantis him being nominated for the big award

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Can't be right. I thought Beni Baningime was the best midfielder in the league?

Triantis will be a big loss next season.

Every chance we will get him back IMO

[Tambo]

Very nice to hear this, maybe a bit surprising but that's not saying he's not played well, he's a joy to watch controlling the game in the middle and has chipped in with some goals.

[007]

Hibs will make a move for him in the summer, according to the Northern Echo. Fingers crossed they are correct.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/25146545.hibernian-making-summer-move-sunderland-midfielder-nectar-triantis/

[Iain G]

Hibs will make a move for him in the summer, according to the Northern Echo. Fingers crossed they are correct.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/25146545.hibernian-making-summer-move-sunderland-midfielder-nectar-triantis/

Suspect he would have to be our record signing to secure him on a permanent deal

[patlowe]

Suspect he would have to be our record signing to secure him on a permanent deal

Yep, would surely take millions for Sunderland to OK the sale of an asset clearly growing in value. And that's assuming 1. he doesn't want to give up his crack at England and 2. a bigger club doesn't fancy a punt. Would say another year loan is the best we can hope for and tbh that would be an incredible result for us.

Whatever happens, the conviction to push for bringing Triantis back and being able to further mould him into that midfield anchor so effectively is another huge sign that SDG really has a brilliant touch for this management lark.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

It could be a Bournemouth sanctioned deal where he signs for them and then is loaned to us.

[Aldo]

If reports are correct Sunderland paid £300k for Triantis. Triple or quadruple their offer with a hefty sell on and see where we go?

Would be my No1 target!

[Hibs4185]

No way I’d be paying a million, maybe £500-£750k with a decent sell on. Double their money and a future sell on bonus

[Aldo]

No way I’d be paying a million, maybe £500-£750k with a decent sell on. Double their money and a future sell on bonus

Why not? If a million sealed the deal we’d be daft not to.

[BILLYHIBS]

Dunno about 1m ?

Sometimes he looks a positive Rolls Royce of a player a joy to behold and other times he looks like a centre back playing in midfield never notice him clumsy with misplaced passes ( Celtic away SC ) but that is what you get with youngsters inconsistency

This is the correct place for him imo maybe a further loan extension to eke out further improvement or if we can agree a mutually acceptable fee depends on where Sunderland end up I suppose?

[Jock O]

It could be a Bournemouth sanctioned deal where he signs for them and then is loaned to us.

I have seen this a couple of times and don't get this, what's in it for Bournemouth? Potential future sell on profit is the only motive I can see but they are now surely looking at players way higher up in scale then Nectar, and not sure the profit would be enough to cover the risk. I don't see at this moment that any club aspiring for top 6 EPL would have him on their radar.

I get it there is some group motive for them to see us improve, just not sure this is one way they would do that that, or could do that. Is there no impacts on the FP rules on us, if they are a connected company?

I am still a little bemused on how the whole relationship works regarding players, but not sure I see this as part of it if Bournemouth do not see him as potential future player for them, which at the moment I don't think they will.

I would off course love to be proved wrong as he really is becoming the key for us moving forward at moment,

[Hibs3-2]

No way I’d be paying a million, maybe £500-£750k with a decent sell on. Double their money and a future sell on bonus

If the price was 1 million, we should be biting their hand off at that. Whatever they want, provided we can afford it, we should be paying.

21 year old, sell on potential is huge if he keeps improving and hes been key to our success this season

[patlowe]

If the price was 1 million, we should be biting their hand off at that. Whatever they want, provided we can afford it, we should be paying.

21 year old, sell on potential is huge if he keeps improving and hes been key to our success this season

I'm with you and think folk are seriously underrating this guy's potential. 21, chucked into a new position and now voted one of the four best players in the country after marshalling the midfield through the club's best run in its history. Plus a really good chance he'll be showcased on a global stage at the World Cup next year. If we got him for 500k I'd eat my hat, and anything else you'd like to feed me.

[Smartie]

I have seen this a couple of times and don't get this, what's in it for Bournemouth? Potential future sell on profit is the only motive I can see but they are now surely looking at players way higher up in scale then Nectar, and not sure the profit would be enough to cover the risk. I don't see at this moment that any club aspiring for top 6 EPL would have him on their radar.

I get it there is some group motive for them to see us improve, just not sure this is one way they would do that that, or could do that. Is there no impacts on the FP rules on us, if they are a connected company?

I am still a little bemused on how the whole relationship works regarding players, but not sure I see this as part of it if Bournemouth do not see him as potential future player for them, which at the moment I don't think they will.

I would off course love to be proved wrong as he really is becoming the key for us moving forward at moment,

I guess the logic behind the suggestion is that he’d be a potentially huge playing asset to all the teams in the group outside of Bournemouth… and that he’d also represent a low risk, low budget punt from them on a player who is a good age, already playing well and with the potential to improve further?

Not comparing him to John McGinn, but to compare him with John McGinn… how many signings will Villa ever make that will represent the sort of value they got from taking a punt on a young John McGinn? And what market value would be placed on a player providing his end product now? Triantis is a risk who might not work for Bournemouth but wouldn’t break the bank for them. If it worked great, if not, at least a few other clubs within the group will have got a decent stint from Triantis.

It makes sense to me.

It also proves why we might be useful to Bournemouth - it allows them another avenue to get a foot in the door with future Triantises.

[evy]

Our best chance of us getting him next season is Sunderland winning the playoffs and getting into the Prem as he is not ready for that level yet imo.

Mon the Mackems!

[.Sean.]

I have a feeling we will sign him for a hefty fee by our standards and make a real statement

[Thatdayinmay16]

Europa conference league group/league stage guarantees about 5m for the club.

Spending 1m of that on a guy you know you'll make at least 5/6m on in a couple of years would be very sensible business.

[Hibbyradge]

I have a feeling we will sign him for a hefty fee by our standards and make a real statement

What do you think he'll say?

[Centre Hawf]

What do you think he'll say?

"That's alotta dingo dollars!"

[Not In The Know]

What do you think he'll say?


He has basically been told by the Aussie boss if he wants to make the World Cup he has to be playing guaranteed first team footy for the whole season. Thats going to work massively in our favour.

He cant get that at Sunderland (even in the championship) or if he moves to A N Other team. Problem for us is he has 2 years left on his Sunderland deal and unless they are dripping with better DMs or (CHs!!) they would be daft to sell him before the World Cup as he might have a stormer there and be worth millions.


I think we will end up paying a fair bit just to loan him for 1 more year.

[Jones28]

What do you think he'll say?

900 dollarydoos?!:doh:

[Speedy]

He has basically been told by the Aussie boss if he wants to make the World Cup he has to be playing guaranteed first team footy for the whole season. Thats going to work massively in our favour.

He cant get that at Sunderland (even in the championship) or if he moves to A N Other team. Problem for us is he has 2 years left on his Sunderland deal and unless they are dripping with better DMs or (CHs!!) they would be daft to sell him before the World Cup as he might have a stormer there and be worth millions.


I think we will end up paying a fair bit just to loan him for 1 more year.

A lot will depend on what happens to Rigg & Bellingham at Sunderland. If they go then Triantis will be right amongst it. Otherwise, they have a few in the centre of midfield.

I agree with you though in that there's no chance they'll let him go for less than £1m.

[ManlyOz]

Just seen it was his 22nd Birthday on Hibs twitter, just had a wiki search said he lost his father in a fire when he was 8 and is 1 of 10 kids. Must have been a tough childhood! Happy birthday 🍻 and hope he’s here next season 💚

[EGL2000]

Account on X saying he has agreed to stay with us next season!

[theonlywayisup]

Account on X saying he has agreed to stay with us next season!

Can you link it? Is the source reliable?

[JohnM1875]

Account on X saying he has agreed to stay with us next season!

Not really down to Triantis though, unfortunately. Though to be fair, can't see Sunderland being awkward about it.

[04Sauzee]

Can you link it? Is the source reliable?

The source I seen this morning said it was agreed in principle unless anything changes 😅

One of those Scottish football transfer twitter pages with a few thousand followers.

So I'm going with not very reliable

[04Sauzee]

Not really down to Triantis though, unfortunately. Though to be fair, can't see Sunderland being awkward about it.

Agreed I'd imagine Sunderland would want him over the summer to asses

[tamig]

Not really down to Triantis though, unfortunately. Though to be fair, can't see Sunderland being awkward about it.

I’m sure Sunderland are fully aware of his fantastic form this season. What makes you think they wouldn’t be looking at introducing him to their first team next season?

[JohnM1875]

I’m sure Sunderland are fully aware of his fantastic form this season. What makes you think they wouldn’t be looking at introducing him to their first team next season?

Just think the fact they initially signed him as a CB. Haven't seen any of Sunderland this season though and I've honestly no idea who plays midfield for them.

He's been different class for us this season and I really hope he's back here next season.

[superfurryhibby]

Just think the fact they initially signed him as a CB. Haven't seen any of Sunderland this season though and I've honestly no idea who plays midfield for them.

He's been different class for us this season and I really hope he's back here next season.

I'm pretty sure Hibs signed and played Triantis as a CB in his first loan spell.

Like you, I really hope he'll be back next season. He's a talented player, but not sure he has the pace needed to play midfield at the top end of the Championship.

[patlowe]

I'm pretty sure Hibs signed and played Triantis as a CB in his first loan spell.

Like you, I really hope he'll be back next season. He's a talented player, but not sure he has the pace needed to play midfield at the top end of the Championship.

We did but he got chucked into midfield against Rangers in the cup and instantly looked a player IMO. IIRC he was inconsistent thereafter and continued to be moved around a bit, and by the end of the season we were kind of back where we started with him.

So much more consistent this season and to your point re pace - I'm not so sure. He's an athletic lad and if you look at his goal against Motherwell he can certainly shift when he wants to. I reckon it's his maverick tendencies that will hold him back if anything, as he seems to have everything else in his locker.

[Jock O]

I'm pretty sure Hibs signed and played Triantis as a CB in his first loan spell.

Like you, I really hope he'll be back next season. He's a talented player, but not sure he has the pace needed to play midfield at the top end of the Championship.

Hadn't Montgomery used him as DM in Australia?

[Smartie]

We did but he got chucked into midfield against Rangers in the cup and instantly looked a player IMO. IIRC he was inconsistent thereafter and continued to be moved around a bit, and by the end of the season we were kind of back where we started with him.

So much more consistent this season and to your point re pace - I'm not so sure. He's an athletic lad and if you look at his goal against Motherwell he can certainly shift when he wants to. I reckon it's his maverick tendencies that will hold him back if anything, as he seems to have everything else in his locker.

He’s still got the odd clumsy moment in him and he still occasionally loses concentration.

I thought he was good last season, with the odd notable and costly lapse. I was glad to see him return, I’m thrilled he’s had a good season and would love to see him stay. As good as he’s been, I think there’s room for further improvement.

Great player.

[Jim44]

Despite his great progress with us this season, I don’t see Sunderland relying on Triantis as a first pick, either in the Premier Division ( if they’re lucky enough to get there ) or in the Championship. From what I’ve read, Triantis’s priority next season is regular first team football to consolidate his place in the Aussie international set up. That and some experience of European football is guaranteed with us next season. That, coupled with his clear enjoyment of life at ER, suggests that another year with us is not out of the question.

[CentreLine]

He’s still got the odd clumsy moment in him and he still occasionally loses concentration.

I thought he was good last season, with the odd notable and costly lapse. I was glad to see him return, I’m thrilled he’s had a good season and would love to see him stay. As good as he’s been, I think there’s room for further improvement.

Great player.

Good start for any negotiations. I like it 👍

[tamig]

Despite his great progress with us this season, I don’t see Sunderland relying on Triantis as a first pick, either in the Premier Division ( if they’re lucky enough to get there ) or in the Championship. From what I’ve read, Triantis’s priority next season is regular first team football to consolidate his place in the Aussie international set up. That and some experience of European football is guaranteed with us next season. That, coupled with his clear enjoyment of life at ER, suggests that another year with us is not out of the question.
I think it’s pure guesswork as to what Sunderland’s plans are for him next season - especially if they don’t go up. Remember Mayenda last season? I really hope he’ll be back at ER next season but I fear Sunderland will have different ideas on that.

[AlbertK86]

We did but he got chucked into midfield against Rangers in the cup and instantly looked a player IMO. IIRC he was inconsistent thereafter and continued to be moved around a bit, and by the end of the season we were kind of back where we started with him.

So much more consistent this season and to your point re pace - I'm not so sure. He's an athletic lad and if you look at his goal against Motherwell he can certainly shift when he wants to. I reckon it's his maverick tendencies that will hold him back if anything, as he seems to have everything else in his locker.

He played CM for Gray at end of season and did very well.


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[Speedy]

Agreed I'd imagine Sunderland would want him over the summer to asses

Aye, no chance they've made a decision on where he is next year before they even know what league they're in.

[JimBHibees]

Aye, no chance they've made a decision on where he is next year before they even know what league they're in.

Yes they will want to look at him would have thought. Maybe better for us if they go up as would then be looking for better

[JimBHibees]

Despite his great progress with us this season, I don’t see Sunderland relying on Triantis as a first pick, either in the Premier Division ( if they’re lucky enough to get there ) or in the Championship. From what I’ve read, Triantis’s priority next season is regular first team football to consolidate his place in the Aussie international set up. That and some experience of European football is guaranteed with us next season. That, coupled with his clear enjoyment of life at ER, suggests that another year with us is not out of the question.


Would definitely be in their plans for the championship

[Centre Hawf]

I think if they go up it would be safe to assume he wouldn't quite make their plans for next season. If they don't go up I could see scope for him making their squad for next season to at least try him out for the first half of it.

I would like to see us sign him but with 2 years still on his Sunderland deal I can picture him going out on loan again somewhere next season that may result in him going for £2/3/4m instead of whatever we can offer this summer.

[worcesterhibby]

If I was Sunderland, I’d offer him a one year extension to his contract and loan him out to Hibs again for another year. If that gets him in the Aussie team for the World Cup and he does well, they could be looking at £5-6 million return. Even if he doesn’t he will have had another year of first team football and played in Europe, they can then either keep him or sell him with a couple of years left on his contract.

[BILLYHIBS]

If I was Sunderland, I’d offer him a one year extension to his contract and loan him out to Hibs again for another year. If that gets him in the Aussie team for the World Cup and he does well, they could be looking at £5-6 million return. Even if he doesn’t he will have had another year of first team football and played in Europe, they can then either keep him or sell him with a couple of years left on his contract.

Or sell him now for a knock down 1m ? :tee hee:

[Smartie]

If I was Sunderland, I’d offer him a one year extension to his contract and loan him out to Hibs again for another year. If that gets him in the Aussie team for the World Cup and he does well, they could be looking at £5-6 million return. Even if he doesn’t he will have had another year of first team football and played in Europe, they can then either keep him or sell him with a couple of years left on his contract.

That makes most sense for all parties to me.