Josh Campbell again ..

[Donegal Hibby]

Happy birthday Josh Campbell :not worth . Good Hibby and club man that has contributed massively over the years to Hibs ….
https://youtu.be/lPa6QllAy7A?si=uYGlatchOKb25v6p

https://x.com/HibernianFC/status/1919728286956921155

[Centre Hawf]

Happy birthday Josh Campbell :not worth . Good Hibby and club man that has contributed massively over the years to Hibs ….
https://youtu.be/lPa6QllAy7A?si=uYGlatchOKb25v6p

I know these highlights are a couple seasons old, but I really rate his ability to drift into goalscoring positions unmarked at times. I know he has some limited parts to his game as far as playmaking can go but he makes a great goal threat from deep.

[Donegal Hibby]

I know these highlights are a couple seasons old, but I really rate his ability to drift into goalscoring positions unmarked at times. I know he has some limited parts to his game as far as playmaking can go but he makes a great goal threat from deep.

I think maybe Gray is asking him to a different job than some of our previous managers did as to his ability to drift into goalscoring positions.

There’s no denying there’s parts of his game that are not as good as far as playmaking goes though certainly offers us something different all the same …

Thought his play on the Gayle goal against Dundee Utd was excellent in the way he nipped in got the ball , passed it and showed good determination to get forward in the box .. played a significant part in that goal .

[Hibbyradge]

I haven't seen much said about his contribution on Saturday but until he was brought on, Dundee United were in the ascendency and it looked like only a matter of time before they equalised.

Campbell's inclusion tightened up the midfield and Hibs got back on top. His work isn't always sexy and doesn't attract attention, but he's definitely an asset.

[jacomo]

I think maybe Gray is asking him to a different job than some of our previous managers did as to his ability to drift into goalscoring positions.

There’s no denying there’s parts of his game that are not as good as far as playmaking goes though certainly offers us something different all the same …

Thought his play on the Gayle goal against Dundee Utd was excellent in the way he nipped in got the ball , passed it and showed good determination to get forward in the box .. played a significant part in that goal .


You can't play him as a central midfielder he loses the ball too often.

As an attacking midfielder he brings chaos and goals.

[Donegal Hibby]

You can't play him as a central midfielder he loses the ball too often.

As an attacking midfielder he brings chaos and goals.

He covers all areas of park and that includes central midfield … re-watch our third goal against Utd and you’ll see who wins it back :greengrin

[LustForLeith]

I’m a big fan of Campbell

[jacomo]

He covers all areas of park and that includes central midfield … re-watch our third goal against Utd and you’ll see who wins it back :greengrin


Not doubting his energy and ability to cover the ground. But his passing is often very poor.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not doubting his energy and ability to cover the ground. But his passing is often very poor.

I suppose there are areas of his game he needs to work on . Then again if he was good at everything we probably wouldn’t have him , does offer us something different all the same . I put this on another thread , well worth a watch…

https://www.youtube.com/live/8k6ZoLZ7Pwo?si=lZVbSRWjgODmLsgE

[Hibbyradge]

Not doubting his energy and ability to cover the ground. But his passing is often very poor.

Is it?

I've not noticed him giving the ball away any more than anyone else, but I've seen this said before, so I'd like to see his stats compared to other players.

<Waits expectantly>

[hibsbollah]

Hes really valuable as a disruptor, definitely can be a Plan B off the bench and as the clip shows hes got an eye for goal too.

[B.H.F.C]

Is it?

I've not noticed him giving the ball away any more than anyone else, but I've seen this said before, so I'd like to see his stats compared to other players.

<Waits expectantly>

Campbell has a passing accuracy of 68.6%, the lowest of any midfielder in the team. The two goalies, Vente, Myko, Bowie and McKirdy are the only players with a poorer pass accuracy this season.

Above is according to WhoScored.

[supermcginn]

Is it?

I've not noticed him giving the ball away any more than anyone else, but I've seen this said before, so I'd like to see his stats compared to other players.

<Waits expectantly>


https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/leagues/64/stats/season/23758/players/accurate_pass/team/10251/table second lowest outfield player on this list, only Myko is worse.

[Jock O]

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/leagues/64/stats/season/23758/players/accurate_pass/team/10251/table second lowest outfield player on this list, only Myko is worse.


And Kwon is the most successful, as always stats need to be looked at with context and aligned with results where available.

[BILLYHIBS]

Frustrating player would have been a hero if his header or shot had gone in at Aberdeen has a tremendous engine and not afraid to work was involved in the build up to Gayle’s goal on Saturday but ball control and passing let him down

Sofa have him 69% passing success rate in the Premier League this season but what a controlled finish against Celtic in the recent 2-1 that is what is so frustrating about him ?

Not the key player that SDG hoped he would be at the start of the season

Big game player

[500miles]

Hibs Observer done a good YouTube video on his strengths and weaknesses.

[CapitalGreen]

Is it?

I've not noticed him giving the ball away any more than anyone else, but I've seen this said before, so I'd like to see his stats compared to other players.

<Waits expectantly>

Unsuccessful touches p90
Campbell 2.5
Triantis 1.8
NMW 1.5
Newell 1.2
Levitt 0.5

Dispossessed p90
Campbell 1.3
NMW 0.9
Triantis 0.8
Newell 0.3
Levitt 0.2

Unsuccesful Passes
Campbell 31%
Triantis 26%
NMW 23%
Newell 23%
Levitt 16%

Unsuccesful Short Passes
Campbell 30%
Triantis 20%
NMW 19%
Newell 18%
Levitt 12%

Key passes (chances created) p90
Levitt 1
Newell 1
Triantis 0.9
NMW 0.8
Campbell 0.7

[tonyrougier123]

You gotta smile when the passing accuracy gets mentioned on here, a combative box to box midfielder or ball winning mid with that high a percentage is good for me. Take John mcginn for example 42% but crucial to Villa in his style and attitude. I’m glad folk on here don’t do the hiring and firing at the club laughable 😂. So many memories of Campbell being a key player this season and whenever he plays. Yes sometimes the game management can require a tweak or two but I think SDG has proven to have the general knack for making the right call. Enjoy the good times and the players you’ll harp for them when they aren’t available. Until we start signing out and out superstars who give a crap relax enjoy the hibee bounce and trust the process hibees. GGTTH

[Since452]

An important member of the squad.

[CapitalGreen]

You gotta smile when the passing accuracy gets mentioned on here, a combative box to box midfielder or ball winning mid with that high a percentage is good for me. Take John mcginn for example 42% but crucial to Villa in his style and attitude. I’m glad folk on here don’t do the hiring and firing at the club laughable 😂. So many memories of Campbell being a key player this season and whenever he plays. Yes sometimes the game management can require a tweak or two but I think SDG has proven to have the general knack for making the right call. Enjoy the good times and the players you’ll harp for them when they aren’t available. Until we start signing out and out superstars who give a crap relax enjoy the hibee bounce and trust the process hibees. GGTTH

McGinn’s passing accuracy for Villa in the league this season is 87%

[B.H.F.C]

You gotta smile when the passing accuracy gets mentioned on here, a combative box to box midfielder or ball winning mid with that high a percentage is good for me. Take John mcginn for example 42% but crucial to Villa in his style and attitude. I’m glad folk on here don’t do the hiring and firing at the club laughable 😂. So many memories of Campbell being a key player this season and whenever he plays. Yes sometimes the game management can require a tweak or two but I think SDG has proven to have the general knack for making the right call. Enjoy the good times and the players you’ll harp for them when they aren’t available. Until we start signing out and out superstars who give a crap relax enjoy the hibee bounce and trust the process hibees. GGTTH

Am I reading this correctly and stouts saying McGinn has a passing accuracy of 42% by way of comparison? If so, that’s totally inaccurate.

Someone merely asked if there were any stats that back up the idea that Campbell gives the ball away more than others. There are.

[Donegal Hibby]

In the Dundee Utd game it felt like they were beginning to gain control prior to the introduction of Campbell . I actually thought the midfield was falling out / getting dominated until Campbell game on .

For argument sake let’s just say his passing is poorer than some of the other players but I don’t think he was put on to be spraying passes about , there were other reasons Gray had him on and I think when he did come on he contributed a lot and it improved us …

Though I don’t think he got the same level of credit as the criticism he got after the Aberdeen game .

Josh Campbell is a good player and contributes to the team on a regular basis to the team . Gray seems to rate him highly as he’s started him in most of our big games . Also started 9 out of the 17 games we went unbeaten too….

[Thatdayinmay16]

You gotta smile when the passing accuracy gets mentioned on here, a combative box to box midfielder or ball winning mid with that high a percentage is good for me. Take John mcginn for example 42% but crucial to Villa in his style and attitude. I’m glad folk on here don’t do the hiring and firing at the club laughable 😂. So many memories of Campbell being a key player this season and whenever he plays. Yes sometimes the game management can require a tweak or two but I think SDG has proven to have the general knack for making the right call. Enjoy the good times and the players you’ll harp for them when they aren’t available. Until we start signing out and out superstars who give a crap relax enjoy the hibee bounce and trust the process hibees. GGTTH

John McGinn's passing success rate is 87.04%.

Campbell has strengths, passing isn't his necessarily his main strength compared to others that play the same sort of role. However it's clear he brings a certain something to the team and in certain games where we don't have a lot of the ball.

He's been known to be too hot and cold at times but then again as you mention, can pop up and perform brilliantly.

[Jack]

He's a fine Hibernian. I hope ge stays here a long time.

[Donegal Hibby]

Hibs Observer done a good YouTube video on his strengths and weaknesses.

It’s on post #9 .. our third goal and his general performance summed up everything about Campbell for me even though he didn’t get the credit he deserved…

https://youtu.be/04GA_8yC-EI?si=Mr37uT6QDM9p0qY1

[tonyrougier123]

🤦*♂️ shoot me! 😂. I stand by my comments regarding stats and player involvement though. I hate googling stats. For me Campbell is and has been integral when we are doing well. I think you can slice and dice stats to suit a narrative anyway that’s why I’m crap at finding them also. SJM 42% though 😬🤐

[Hibbyradge]

He's a fine Hibernian. I hope ge stays here a long time.

Hear hear.

It seems he's been given the Lewis Stevenson role of being under appreciated.

It's a shame because the lad bleeds green and gives his all, every minute he's on the pitch.

[Jones28]

Unsuccessful touches p90
Campbell 2.5
Triantis 1.8
NMW 1.5
Newell 1.2
Levitt 0.5

Dispossessed p90
Campbell 1.3
NMW 0.9
Triantis 0.8
Newell 0.3
Levitt 0.2

Unsuccesful Passes
Campbell 31%
Triantis 26%
NMW 23%
Newell 23%
Levitt 16%

Unsuccesful Short Passes
Campbell 30%
Triantis 20%
NMW 19%
Newell 18%
Levitt 12%

Key passes (chances created) p90
Levitt 1
Newell 1
Triantis 0.9
NMW 0.8
Campbell 0.7

Would be interesting to see the comparison with Hoilett.

Campbell plays in a more advanced position, with riskier passes and closer to the opposition defence/deep midfielders.

[CapitalGreen]

Would be interesting to see the comparison with Hoilett.

Campbell plays in a more advanced position, with riskier passes and closer to the opposition defence/deep midfielders.

Does Campbell play more riskier passes?

92% of his passes are short, more than anyone else on the list (average 83%). He also creates less chances than those on the list, so if he is taking riskier passes they aren’t translating into shooting opportunities. For comparison, Hoilett creates 2.7 chances per 90, 2 per game more on average than Campbell.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Would be interesting to see the comparison with Hoilett.

Campbell plays in a more advanced position, with riskier passes and closer to the opposition defence/deep midfielders.

Does he though? Hoilett's stats would suggest he's the more creative off the two.

David Junior Hoilett Stats - Goals, xG, Assists & Career Stats | FootyStats (https://footystats.org/players/canada/david-junior-hoilett)

Josh Campbell Stats - Goals, Blocks, xG & Career Stats | FootyStats (https://footystats.org/players/scotland/josh-campbell)

[Jones28]

Does Campbell play more riskier passes?

92% of his passes are short, more than anyone else on the list (average 83%). He also creates less chances than those on the list, so if he is taking riskier passes they aren’t translating into shooting opportunities. For comparison, Hoilett creates 2.7 chances per 90, 2 per game more on average than Campbell.


Does he though? Hoilett's stats would suggest he's the more creative off the two.

David Junior Hoilett Stats - Goals, xG, Assists & Career Stats | FootyStats (https://footystats.org/players/canada/david-junior-hoilett)

Josh Campbell Stats - Goals, Blocks, xG & Career Stats | FootyStats (https://footystats.org/players/scotland/josh-campbell)

Short passes are not less risky because they are short, they carry more risk because of where on the pitch he plays.

I'm not going to argue with anyone re stats, they are what they are.

I would urge anyone who hasn't to watch the Hibs Observer video on JC and come to your own conclusions, what I saw on Saturday was that Campbell and Bowie coming on the pitch made a massive difference and dragged up the pitch by 15 yards and suffocated Utd's midfield.

[Hibbyradge]

Hear hear.

It seems he's been given the Lewis Stevenson role of being under appreciated.

It's a shame because the lad bleeds green and gives his all, every minute he's on the pitch.

I just realised another Stevenson similarity.

6 different managers since he made his first team debut have continued to play Josh, despite some fans' reservations.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Short passes are not less risky because they are short, they carry more risk because of where on the pitch he plays.

I'm not going to argue with anyone re stats, they are what they are.

I would urge anyone who hasn't to watch the Hibs Observer video on JC and come to your own conclusions, what I saw on Saturday was that Campbell and Bowie coming on the pitch made a massive difference and dragged up the pitch by 15 yards and suffocated Utd's midfield.

I agree he and bowie made a massive difference on Saturday, not disputing that, if you watch JH & JC in the 10 position which they both start in, I can't say I've seen enough evidence to see an argument for JC playing higher up.

Hoilett for me cuts into the left a lot but he doesn't drop as far back as JC does at times and just as likely to play a risky pass and it come off seeing as his range of passing is of a better quality.

[Hibbyradge]

I agree he and bowie made a massive difference on Saturday, not disputing that, if you watch JH & JC in the 10 position which they both start in, I can't say I've seen enough evidence to see an argument for JC playing higher up.



Have a look at the Hibs Observer video, Jones mentions above. The first 15 minutes are about Josh. The evidence is there.

[CapitalGreen]

Have a look at the Hibs Observer video, Jones mentions above. The first 15 minutes are about Josh. The evidence is there.

The stats presented in that video shows that Campbell underperforms the league average in terms of creativity and attacking threat in that role.

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[BILLYHIBS]

Anyway….Happy Birthday Josh ! 😂

Gie us a goal on Saturday!

[Donegal Hibby]

The stats presented in that video shows that Campbell underperforms the league average in terms of creativity and attacking threat in that role.

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It’s strange in how his passing , stats are poor and yet he’s started in 2 out of the 3 derbies, 3 out of 4 of the games against Aberdeen , 5 out of the 7 games against the OF and started 9 out of the 17 game unbeaten run …

Honestly don’t know what Grays playing at! 🫣🤭

[Hibbyradge]

It’s strange in how his passing , stats are poor and yet he’s started in 2 out of the 3 derbies, 3 out of 4 of the games against Aberdeen , 5 out of the 7 games against the OF and started 9 out of the 17 game unbeaten run …

Honestly don’t know what Grays playing at! 🫣🤭

He's been picked to play for 6 different managers, domestically and in Europe.

[B.H.F.C]

Short passes are not less risky because they are short, they carry more risk because of where on the pitch he plays.

I'm not going to argue with anyone re stats, they are what they are.

I would urge anyone who hasn't to watch the Hibs Observer video on JC and come to your own conclusions, what I saw on Saturday was that Campbell and Bowie coming on the pitch made a massive difference and dragged up the pitch by 15 yards and suffocated Utd's midfield.

For me, I don’t think Campbell plays much in the way of risky passes. That’s not really a criticism, that’s not his game. It’s clear when he’s in there, it’s for different things that he does offer.

I think McGrath coming will reduce his opportunities next season though, particularly if Hoilett was to stay as well.

[Donegal Hibby]

He's been picked to play for 6 different managers, domestically and in Europe.

I think that just goes to show how much an important player he is for us . He’s got a lot in common with Lewis Stevenson in he always gives you 100% and the feeling he’d go through a brick wall for the team . Unfortunately like Lewy I think he’s another player that doesn’t get the credit or respect he deserves at times from the fans .

[Thatdayinmay16]

It’s strange in how his passing , stats are poor and yet he’s started in 2 out of the 3 derbies, 3 out of 4 of the games against Aberdeen , 5 out of the 7 games against the OF and started 9 out of the 17 game unbeaten run …

Honestly don’t know what Grays playing at! 🫣🤭

Nobodies having a dig at the guy, his passing is unfortunately his weakest attribute. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have other qualities.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nobodies having a dig at the guy, his passing is unfortunately his weakest attribute. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have other qualities.

Totally agree , it’s his other attributes he’s picked for that makes him such an important player , why previous managers have picked him and why he regularly contributes in games especially the BIG games 😉

[supermcginn]

Nobodies having a dig at the guy, his passing is unfortunately his weakest attribute. Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have other qualities.

As soon as his name is mentioned on here his fanboy is straight on here jumping down everyone's throats. The stats are very interesting, shows how good a player Levitt is.

[Thatdayinmay16]

As soon as his name is mentioned on here his fanboy is straight on here jumping down everyone's throats. The stats are very interesting, shows how good a player Levitt is.

I think people were just keen to point out his range of passing wasn't great.

Levitt struggled in a midfield two however thriving now playing in a 4 with a 10 in front of him, certain players suit certain formations/systems.

I think the poster seems to think everyone is having a jump on JC, even though everyone on this forum was keen to point out his strengths and what he brings to the side/how he's contributed.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think people were just keen to point out his range of passing wasn't great.

Levitt struggled in a midfield two however thriving now playing in a 4 with a 10 in front of him, certain players suit certain formations/systems.

I think the poster seems to think everyone is having a jump on JC, even though everyone on this forum was keen to point out his strengths and what he brings to the side/how he's contributed.

I think the criticism he gets at times is unfair , like after the Dons defeat where the finger of blame pointed more in Campbells direction than any other player …

It’s also pretty evident even after he does well and contributes , like he did in the Dundee Utd game the level of credit isn’t remotely the same and you see certain posters disappear until they think there’s a opportunity to jump on the player again , much like the one that’s now calling me a fanboy…

I’m not the only one that does think Campbell is jumped on unfairly at times as if you watch the Hibs Observer ( post #9) you’ll see at the end the word “ Scapegoat “ is used and a reference to some fans need somebody to blame at times which i think is a pretty accurate assessment …

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?368320-Josh-Campbell

[JohnM1875]

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?370528-Campbell/page6