Europe

[bingo70]

https://x.com/sweeperpod/status/1923817747701485577?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

“ There will be UEFA competition football in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean next season!

Promoted Santa Clara from the Azores islands, which are 1,500km from Lisbon, have finished fifth in the Primeira Liga and will now go into the UEFA Conference League qualifying rounds!”

Would be an interesting away day.

Had a Quick Look on sky scanner and looks like a hell of a place to get to.

[DH1875]

https://x.com/sweeperpod/status/1923817747701485577?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

“ There will be UEFA competition football in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean next season!

Promoted Santa Clara from the Azores islands, which are 1,500km from Lisbon, have finished fifth in the Primeira Liga and will now go into the UEFA Conference League qualifying rounds!”

Would be an interesting away day.

Had a Quick Look on sky scanner and looks like a hell of a place to get to.

Azores airlines from Lisbon, Porto and Faro amongst others.

[bingo70]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1924434760312504661?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Some of the seeded Europa league teams, not many good or glamorous fixtures there by the looks of it.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1924101920194462107?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

New Conference league projected groups are out.

Strasbourg away would appear to be a decent away trip.

Think we could give Noah a game. That 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 formation's vulnerable.

[JeMeSouviens]

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1924434760312504661?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Some of the seeded Europa league teams, not many good or glamorous fixtures there by the looks of it.

That's QR1. Assuming Celtc win the cup we don't come in until 3 rounds later at the play-off round. By which time there will be a load of big names.

[CropleyWasGod]

Think we could give Noah a game. That 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 formation's vulnerable.

Their tactics are out of the Ark.

They flood the midfield.


etc etc

[GloryGlory]

Think we could give Noah a game. That 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 formation's vulnerable.

Yeah - bit it gives them a five man advantage! :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

If we ever get to this stage..is there any chance we could move into pot 5 or will it be pretty much be pot 6

It doesn’t really matter what pot you’re in anyway as you get a team from each of them, including your own

[JeMeSouviens]

If we ever get to this stage..is there any chance we could move into pot 5 or will it be pretty much be pot 6

Hearts were in pot 4 last year with a coefficient a bawhair higher than we'll have.

[Paul1642]

It doesn’t really matter what pot you’re in anyway as you get a team from each of them, including your own

That’s pretty odd getting a team from own pot. I had been wondering how 6 pots and 6 fixtures worked.

So is there any benefit at all to being in a higher pot?

[BoomtownHibees]

That’s pretty odd getting a team from own pot. I had been wondering how 6 pots and 6 fixtures worked.

So is there any benefit at all to being in a higher pot?

Na no benefit at all

[CapitalGreen]

That’s pretty odd getting a team from own pot. I had been wondering how 6 pots and 6 fixtures worked.

So is there any benefit at all to being in a higher pot?

It’s because you are used to pots being used to construct groups whereas they are now just being used to draw fixtures.

[FilipinoHibs]

https://x.com/sweeperpod/status/1923817747701485577?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

“ There will be UEFA competition football in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean next season!

Promoted Santa Clara from the Azores islands, which are 1,500km from Lisbon, have finished fifth in the Primeira Liga and will now go into the UEFA Conference League qualifying rounds!”

Would be an interesting away day.

Had a Quick Look on sky scanner and looks like a hell of a place to get to.

I have relations there, defo going if we get them.

[JasonC1875]

Getting ahead of the game here, will be in Tenerife for the first leg of our first tie…all recommendations of where to watch in Las Americas welcomed.

[Callum_62]

Getting ahead of the game here, will be in Tenerife for the first leg of our first tie…all recommendations of where to watch in Las Americas welcomed.Wouldn't bother really - no point as we are getting pumped anyway [emoji6]

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[RoxburghHibs]

If we beat a seeded team in the Europa 2nd round qualifier do we take their seeding in the next round?

[JasonC1875]

If we beat a seeded team in the Europa 2nd round qualifier do we take their seeding in the next round?

Definitely if it’s Braga, the rest still to be confirmed

[RoxburghHibs]

Definitely if it’s Braga, the rest still to be confirmed

So how does that work? It’s only certain seeded teams that you would take their seeding forward if you beat them? That doesn’t sound right to be honest but you never know with these competitions!

[Hibernian Verse]

So how does that work? It’s only certain seeded teams that you would take their seeding forward if you beat them? That doesn’t sound right to be honest but you never know with these competitions!

You take their coefficient not seeding, but it might not be enough to stay seeded in the next round as higher ranked teams inevitably fall into that round from Champions League qualifiers.

Braga's is high enough to ensure we are seeded in Q3 but the rest will depend on who wins their ties in Europa Q1 & Q2 and who loses in UCL Q2.

[nonshinyfinish]

So how does that work? It’s only certain seeded teams that you would take their seeding forward if you beat them? That doesn’t sound right to be honest but you never know with these competitions!

If you beat a team with a higher coefficient, you carry forward their coefficient to the next round. While their coefficient may have made them a seed in the earlier round, it won't necessarily be high enough to make them a seed in the later round. That's why it's not yet possible to say exactly which clubs we could beat to be seeded in Q3.

(This only applies when the later round is drawn before the earlier round has been played. I.e., Q3 is drawn before they know who'll go through from Q2, so they assume the seeded teams will win and use their coefficients for the Q3 draw.)

[Hibees1973]

For the first few rounds the draws are actually made for the next round before you actually play your initial tie.

So for example we enter the Europa League qualifying round 2. The first leg tie is played on 24 July. But the draw for the qualifying round 3 takes place on 21 July, before we even play the first leg tie of qualifying round 2.

The draw for qualifying round 2 takes place on 18 June. Say we draw Braga. So in the draw for the 3rd qualifying round it will be Braga/Hibs v whoever. If we beat Braga (highly unlikely, we don't want them) we will assume the seed. As Braga were the seed (now us) our opponent will be an unseeded side as well, because at the time of the draw Braga were a seed. But tbh it's doesn't make any difference as we will already know our 3rd qualifying opponent.

As far as I know even if we beat Braga it will not improve our co-efficient score. I think these don't come into effect until the following season.

I think this is right but please correct me.

[nonshinyfinish]

For the first few rounds the draws are actually made for the next round before you actually play your initial tie.

So for example we enter the Europa League qualifying round 2. The first leg tie is played on 24 July. But the draw for the qualifying round 3 takes place on 21 July, before we even play the first leg tie of qualifying round 2.The draw for qualifying round 2 takes place on 18 June. Say we draw Braga. So in the draw for the 3rd qualifying round it will be Braga/Hibs v whoever.

This is correct


If we beat Braga (highly unlikely, we don't want them) we will assume the seed. As Braga were the seed (now us) our opponent will be an unseeded side as well, because at the time of the draw Braga were a seed.

This is partially correct – as in the couple of posts above, you don't automatically become a seed by beating a seed. You effectively assume their coefficient for the next round (because of the timing of the draws as you describe), but you're only seeded if that 'borrowed' coefficient is high enough for seeding in the subsequent round. In the case of Braga it definitely would be, but with some of the other Q2 seeds it won't be. Depends on the coefficients of the other teams joining in Q3.


But tbh it's doesn't make any difference as we will already know our 3rd qualifying opponent.

The difference it makes is that our Q3 opponent is likely to be significantly weaker if we've ended up seeded by beating a team with a high enough coefficient. Our best draw might be the weakest team with a high enough coefficient for Q3 seeding.


As far as I know even if we beat Braga it will not improve our co-efficient score. I think these don't come into effect until the following season.

This is correct, our actual coefficient can't change until next season. The temporary 'borrowing' of another team's coefficient is down to the uncertainty at the time of the qualifying round draws and doesn't change our actual coefficient.

[Gmack7]

I'm not sure how any of it works, one thing you are bang on about is that we don't want Braga

[Thatdayinmay16]

I'm not sure how any of it works, one thing you are bang on about is that we don't want Braga

I wouldn't mind them.

[Since452]

Think the best we'll get will be a couple of ties. One against a "glamour" team maybe before getting papped out. Just being realistic.

[Fergus52]

I'm not sure how any of it works, one thing you are bang on about is that we don't want Braga

I'd actually be pretty happy to get them, Portugal would likely be a great trip and then even if they put us out I think that could be a blessing in disguise.

If we lose Europa Q2, there are a bunch of seeded teams in conference Q3 who I think are beatable, but who's coefficient is high enough for us to then be seeded in the conference play off.

Shamrock Rovers, Omonia Nicosia, Macabi Haifa would all have us definitely seeded for the play off draw, and teams like Jagiellonia Bialystok, NK Celje, Borac Banja Luka likely also would (but this isn't confirmed yet).

All of those ties would be tough but are 100% winnable.

Think this is our only feasible route of making the groups, unless we were to cause a massive upset somewhere and put out a really big team.

[JimboHibs]

Hibernians FC from Malta are in Conference Qualifying..... Make it happen 🇳🇬

[Hibees1973]

Think the best we'll get will be a couple of ties. One against a "glamour" team maybe before getting papped out. Just being realistic.

Indeed.

I reckon our best hope is to get favourable draws in the Europa League qualifying rounds 2 and 3, win them and get to the play-off phase. There does seem to be a couple of scenarios in these qualifying rounds where we could be drawn against teams we would have more than a decent chance. Even if we lose at the Europa League play-off stage we fall into the Europa Conference League with 6 league games up to Christmas.

If we lose at any of the Europa League qualifying rounds we fall into the Europa Conference League and would have to negotiate at some point the play-off which we have to win to progess. We are bound to hit a big side at this point and likely to be punted. It was Villa a couple of years ago.

[JimBHibees]

Are we definitely at home July 24 given our unseededness

[JeMeSouviens]

Indeed.

I reckon our best hope is to get favourable draws in the Europa League qualifying rounds 2 and 3, win them and get to the play-off phase. There does seem to be a couple of scenarios in these qualifying rounds where we could be drawn against teams we would have more than a decent chance. Even if we lose at the Europa League play-off stage we fall into the Europa Conference League with 6 league games up to Christmas.

If we lose at any of the Europa League qualifying rounds we fall into the Europa Conference League and would have to negotiate at some point the play-off which we have to win to progess. We are bound to hit a big side at this point and likely to be punted. It was Villa a couple of years ago.

Win EL-Q2 and we get our opponent's coefficient in EL-Q3 (our opponent, btw, gets our coefficient in ECL-Q3, sorry Braga :greengrin).

If we lose EL-Q2 but win ECL-Q3, we would again inherit our ECL-Q3 opponent's coefficient for ECL-PO.

So, in a nutshell, it's most likely we have 2 attempts to win against a big team and if we follow that with a win against a smaller team, we're in the groups.

(Caveat we could beat a biggish team with not a big enough coefficient for a seeding and then have to play an even bigger team. So expect that I guess. :rolleyes:)

[Posh Swanny]

Are we definitely at home July 24 given our unseededness

A separate draw determines that, I think.

[JeMeSouviens]

Are we definitely at home July 24 given our unseededness

I don't think so. Think that only applies in knockout stages, not qualifying.

[SteveHFC]

I don't think so. Think that only applies in knockout stages, not qualifying.

See last sentence below

Seeding

A total of 16 teams will play in the first qualifying round. Seeding of the teams will be based on their 2025 UEFA club coefficients.[10] Before the draw, UEFA may form groups of seeded and unseeded teams per the principles set by the Club Competitions Committee. The first team drawn in each tie will be the home team for the first leg.

[Centre Hawf]

I'd actually be pretty happy to get them, Portugal would likely be a great trip and then even if they put us out I think that could be a blessing in disguise.

If we lose Europa Q2, there are a bunch of seeded teams in conference Q3 who I think are beatable, but who's coefficient is high enough for us to then be seeded in the conference play off.

Shamrock Rovers, Omonia Nicosia, Macabi Haifa would all have us definitely seeded for the play off draw, and teams like Jagiellonia Bialystok, NK Celje, Borac Banja Luka likely also would (but this isn't confirmed yet).

All of those ties would be tough but are 100% winnable.

Think this is our only feasible route of making the groups, unless we were to cause a massive upset somewhere and put out a really big team.

Depressing that it looks to be the case that losing our first round might be the best option for us.

[JohnM1875]

Depressing that it looks to be the case that losing our first round might be the best option for us.

Think the best option is winning the first two rounds. That means you lose the Europa Playoff and are guaranteed Conference League group football.

Lose the first then you need to win the next two, including the Conference League playoff game. Some serious teams enter that stage, like Villa last time we made it there.

Either way it’s going to be a big ask

[Bristolhibby]

I wouldn't mind them.

Worth it for that mental stadium in a quarry. Always fancied going there since Euro 2004.

From a progressions sake, want to avoid them like the plague.

Another question. Being unseeded does that mean we are home first and away last or is it luck of the draw? I’m about for the first leg but on holiday for the second leg.

J

[The Sundance Kid]

Worth it for that mental stadium in a quarry. Always fancied going there since Euro 2004.

From a progressions sake, want to avoid them like the plague.

Another question. Being unseeded does that mean we are home first and away last or is it luck of the draw? I’m about for the first leg but on holiday for the second leg.

J

I’m pretty sure that will just be drawn on the day rather than us necessarily being at home first

[big-mo]

It has maybe been added somewhere on this thread already, but I had just put together some dates for your diaries for all the European games for the Hibs teams for the upcoming season, so I thought I would share them here –

Hibernian FC First team – Hibs enter the UEFA Europa League, at 2rd round. This is the 55th edition Season 2025-26 (Scotland are ranked 14th)
First round draw 17th June
Second round draw 18th June
Third round draw 21st July
First Round games played 10th and 17th July

Second Round games played 24th and 31st July

Third Round games played 7th and 14th Aug
Play-offs 21st and 28th Aug
League phase Match Day 1 24/25th September through to Match Day 8 29th Jan.
Should we lose out in the Europa League we drop down to the Conference League Qualifying League 3rd round where we would again be unseeded (Scotland ranked 11th) the draw is made on the 4th of Aug. Games played 7th and 14th Aug, Play-offs 21st and 28th Aug.

Hibernian FC Women – Play in the 2025–26 UEFA Women's Champions League 25th edition. Scotland are ranked 16th.
Hibs entre at the 2nd round. Draw date 24th June. And Played 27th of Aug and 30th Aug.
If the win they play in the 3rd round, Draw 31st Aug, Played 11th and 18th Sept.
If they win that they entre the League phase with that draw on the 19th of Sept, and six games played between 7/8 Oct and 17th Dec,

Hibernian FC Under 19s – Hibs enter at the second round of the UEFA Youth League (12th Edition) Scotland ranked 14th.
The draw is made on the 3rd of September
2nd round played 22nd Oct / 5th Nov

3rd round played 26th Nov / 10th Dec

Should they progress, they join the winning teams from UEFA Campions League path and are in the round of 32 with the draw being on the 12th of Dec.
The round of 32 play on the 3/4th Feb 2026.
The round of 16 play on the 24/25th Feb (Draw for round of 16 onwards is the 6th Feb)

If anyone spots any mistakes in the above, please feel free to comment with correctiosn.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Worth it for that mental stadium in a quarry. Always fancied going there since Euro 2004.

From a progressions sake, want to avoid them like the plague.

Another question. Being unseeded does that mean we are home first and away last or is it luck of the draw? I’m about for the first leg but on holiday for the second leg.

J

Aye the stadium/atmosphere and the fact your almost guaranteed excellent weather while your over there is why they'd be high up on my list.

If I had to choose it would be them or Shakhtar playing in the Volksparkstadion for me.

[Fergus52]

Think the best option is winning the first two rounds. That means you lose the Europa Playoff and are guaranteed Conference League group football.

Lose the first then you need to win the next two, including the Conference League playoff game. Some serious teams enter that stage, like Villa last time we made it there.

Either way it’s going to be a big ask

An an ideal world, yeah - but I think we're a lot less likely to qualify that way.

Can't see us beating many of the seeded teams in Q2 Europa, and the ones we would have more chance of beating (Sheriff, Partizan, Cluj) likely wouldn't have us also then seeded for Q3.

If we lose Europa Q2, then there's a few teams in conference Q3 I think we could beat that would then have us seeded for the play off - so we'd avoid your Villas (nottingham forrest this year) Fiorentinas etc.

[S4uzee]

An an ideal world, yeah - but I think we're a lot less likely to qualify that way.

Can't see us beating many of the seeded teams in Q2 Europa, and the ones we would have more chance of beating (Sheriff, Partizan, Cluj) likely wouldn't have us also then seeded for Q3.

If we lose Europa Q2, then there's a few teams in conference Q3 I think we could beat that would then have us seeded for the play off - so we'd avoid your Villas (nottingham forrest this year) Fiorentinas etc.

But we would qualify if we won the first two rounds of the Europa League qualifiers as we’d be guaranteed conference?

[Glory Lurker]

Mind when it was all just about a load of balls being chucked in a bucket, drawn out randomly and folk playing until they won the trophy or lost beforehand? I've not got a clue what's going on, so I'm just going to follow an approach of Hibs win -good, Hibs defeat - bad, then repeat that if somehow we're allowed another game after a loss.

And thank god we're not in the Evolution Cup. I'm not sure a team receiving the trophy can be certain it's not just for being given an east area seeding in the September Round.

[Speedy]

An an ideal world, yeah - but I think we're a lot less likely to qualify that way.

Can't see us beating many of the seeded teams in Q2 Europa, and the ones we would have more chance of beating (Sheriff, Partizan, Cluj) likely wouldn't have us also then seeded for Q3.

If we lose Europa Q2, then there's a few teams in conference Q3 I think we could beat that would then have us seeded for the play off - so we'd avoid your Villas (nottingham forrest this year) Fiorentinas etc.

Not sure there are many guarantees that any beatable team in Q3 would be seeded for the playoff round.

[JimBHibees]

I don't think so. Think that only applies in knockout stages, not qualifying.

Ok thanks

[JimBHibees]

A separate draw determines that, I think.

👍

[Hibees1973]

Mind when it was all just about a load of balls being chucked in a bucket, drawn out randomly and folk playing until they won the trophy or lost beforehand? I've not got a clue what's going on, so I'm just going to follow an approach of Hibs win -good, Hibs defeat - bad, then repeat that if somehow we're allowed another game after a loss.

And thank god we're not in the Evolution Cup. I'm not sure a team receiving the trophy can be certain it's not just for being given an east area seeding in the September Round.

Yeah.

UEFA have taken most of the jeopardy out of these draws, particularly in the early rounds. It's likely we will be in group with a few others, then at the press of a button the draw appears.

Don't even get the tension of waiting on our prestigious, pioneering club being drawn out of a hat/globe for a European tie.

[Stokesy's on fire]

This article seems to suggest we could make the groups without winning any of the playoff games

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-uefa-european-football-parachutes-guarantee-aberdeen-scottish-cup-5146236

[CallumLaidlaw]

This article seems to suggest we could make the groups without winning any of the playoff games

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-uefa-european-football-parachutes-guarantee-aberdeen-scottish-cup-5146236

Nah it’s just very badly written.


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[danhibees1875]

Nah it’s just very badly written.


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:agree:

1 parachute - we can just find ourselves having to deploy it at up to 3 different points.

[Stokesy's on fire]

:agree:

1 parachute - we can just find ourselves having to deploy it at up to 3 different points.

The whole thing is confusing.

[Centre Hawf]

But we would qualify if we won the first two rounds of the Europa League qualifiers as we’d be guaranteed conference?

Yeah but the point Fergus makes is that to win both those ties is a huge ask due to the seeding system. If we were to even win the first round somehow then that could then make the conference play off much harder in the likelihood we lose the next EL round. Of course if we somehow turn into juggernauts and win the first two rounds we’re golden, but we’d have to beat two sides that are well ahead of us in the pecking order. Whereas if we lose the first time round and then beat Shamrock we’d have a much more winnable tie than if we beat Braga and then lost to Cluj for example.

[LancsHibs]

AEK Larnaca please🙏

[Ronniekirk]

Yeah but the point Fergus makes is that to win both those ties is a huge ask due to the seeding system. If we were to even win the first round somehow then that could then make the conference play off much harder in the likelihood we lose the next EL round. Of course if we somehow turn into juggernauts and win the first two rounds we’re golden, but we’d have to beat two sides that are well ahead of us in the pecking order. Whereas if we lose the first time round and then beat Shamrock we’d have a much more winnable tie than if we beat Braga and then lost to Cluj for example.

And the timing of these games is tricky now with team not really into its stride and new players still gelling with team

[Fergus52]

Not sure there are many guarantees that any beatable team in Q3 would be seeded for the playoff round.

Shamrock Rovers, Omonia Nicosia, Macabi Haifa are all currently seeded in Q3, with a high enough coefficient to also be seeded in the play off, no matter what.

All three are beatable imo, and should we draw them would guarantee us to be seeded in the next round

[SunshineOnLeith]

Think the best we'll get will be a couple of ties. One against a "glamour" team maybe before getting papped out. Just being realistic.

Your best case scenario is us not winning a single tie? Christ.

[Phil MaGlass]

It has maybe been added somewhere on this thread already, but I had just put together some dates for your diaries for all the European games for the Hibs teams for the upcoming season, so I thought I would share them here –

Hibernian FC First team – Hibs enter the UEFA Europa League, at 2rd round. This is the 55th edition Season 2025-26 (Scotland are ranked 14th)
First round draw 17th June
Second round draw 18th June
Third round draw 21st July
First Round games played 10th and 17th July

Second Round games played 24th and 31st July

Third Round games played 7th and 14th Aug
Play-offs 21st and 28th Aug
League phase Match Day 1 24/25th September through to Match Day 8 29th Jan.
Should we lose out in the Europa League we drop down to the Conference League Qualifying League 3rd round where we would again be unseeded (Scotland ranked 11th) the draw is made on the 4th of Aug. Games played 7th and 14th Aug, Play-offs 21st and 28th Aug.

Hibernian FC Women – Play in the 2025–26 UEFA Women's Champions League 25th edition. Scotland are ranked 16th.
Hibs entre at the 2nd round. Draw date 24th June. And Played 27th of Aug and 30th Aug.
If the win they play in the 3rd round, Draw 31st Aug, Played 11th and 18th Sept.
If they win that they entre the League phase with that draw on the 19th of Sept, and six games played between 7/8 Oct and 17th Dec,

Hibernian FC Under 19s – Hibs enter at the second round of the UEFA Youth League (12th Edition) Scotland ranked 14th.
The draw is made on the 3rd of September
2nd round played 22nd Oct / 5th Nov

3rd round played 26th Nov / 10th Dec

Should they progress, they join the winning teams from UEFA Campions League path and are in the round of 32 with the draw being on the 12th of Dec.
The round of 32 play on the 3/4th Feb 2026.
The round of 16 play on the 24/25th Feb (Draw for round of 16 onwards is the 6th Feb)

If anyone spots any mistakes in the above, please feel free to comment with correctiosn.

Thanks for that

[SteveHFC]

Croatia cup final 2nd leg 0-0 at half time 1st leg was 1-1
has a bearing for us as Shakhtar will move to league phase if Slaven Belupo win tonight


well looks like Shakhtar it is as Rijeka 1-0 2-1 on agg

[B.H.F.C]

Croatia cup final 2nd leg 0-0 at half time 1st leg was 1-1
has a bearing for us as Shaktar will move to league phase if Slaven Belupo win tonight

Some of the scenarios are mental. But any of the big teams not being involved at the same stage we enter would be good.

[CapitalGreen]

Croatia cup final 2nd leg 0-0 at half time 1st leg was 1-1
has a bearing for us as Shaktar will move to league phase if Slaven Belupo win tonight

1-0 Rijeka

Given up hoping results go out way. We will just need to do it ourselves like we did in the league.

[SteveHFC]

Some of the scenarios are mental. But any of the big teams not being involved at the same stage we enter would be good.

on plus side the croatia cup final doesnt put fear into to me if thats their standard

[Tambo]

It has maybe been added somewhere on this thread already, but I had just put together some dates for your diaries for all the European games for the Hibs teams for the upcoming season, so I thought I would share them here –

Hibernian FC First team – Hibs enter the UEFA Europa League, at 2rd round. This is the 55th edition Season 2025-26 (Scotland are ranked 14th)
First round draw 17th June
Second round draw 18th June
Third round draw 21st July
First Round games played 10th and 17th July

Second Round games played 24th and 31st July

Third Round games played 7th and 14th Aug
Play-offs 21st and 28th Aug
League phase Match Day 1 24/25th September through to Match Day 8 29th Jan.
Should we lose out in the Europa League we drop down to the Conference League Qualifying League 3rd round where we would again be unseeded (Scotland ranked 11th) the draw is made on the 4th of Aug. Games played 7th and 14th Aug, Play-offs 21st and 28th Aug.

Hibernian FC Women – Play in the 2025–26 UEFA Women's Champions League 25th edition. Scotland are ranked 16th.
Hibs entre at the 2nd round. Draw date 24th June. And Played 27th of Aug and 30th Aug.
If the win they play in the 3rd round, Draw 31st Aug, Played 11th and 18th Sept.
If they win that they entre the League phase with that draw on the 19th of Sept, and six games played between 7/8 Oct and 17th Dec,

Hibernian FC Under 19s – Hibs enter at the second round of the UEFA Youth League (12th Edition) Scotland ranked 14th.
The draw is made on the 3rd of September
2nd round played 22nd Oct / 5th Nov

3rd round played 26th Nov / 10th Dec

Should they progress, they join the winning teams from UEFA Campions League path and are in the round of 32 with the draw being on the 12th of Dec.
The round of 32 play on the 3/4th Feb 2026.
The round of 16 play on the 24/25th Feb (Draw for round of 16 onwards is the 6th Feb)

If anyone spots any mistakes in the above, please feel free to comment with correctiosn.

Great updates Mo, why is the second round draw a day after? should just do it the same day.

[SteveHFC]

Ft 2-1 Rijeka on agg so means Shakhtar go into round 1

so if im right we have
Anderlecht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.S.C._Anderlecht), Midtjylland (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Midtjylland), Braga (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.C._Braga) all confirmed as seeded for 2nd round with Lugano all but rubber stamped unless Basle have a nightmare in sundays cup final

[SunshineOnLeith]

Ft 2-1 Rijeka on agg so means Shakhtar go into round 1

so if im right we have
Anderlecht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.S.C._Anderlecht), Midtjylland (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Midtjylland), Braga (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.C._Braga) all confirmed as seeded for 2nd round with Lugano all but rubber stamped unless Basle have a nightmare in sundays cup final






Given how we ended up in this situation, I'd be wary of rubber stamping anyone before a cup final!

[SteveHFC]

:agree:
Given how we ended up in this situation, I'd be wary of rubber stamping anyone before a cup final!

[Bobby's Cinema]

All the seeds have regular European experience year after year looks a daunting list. One or two surprises in round 1 would be good.

[JasonC1875]

Ft 2-1 Rijeka on agg so means Shakhtar go into round 1

so if im right we have
Anderlecht (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.S.C._Anderlecht), Midtjylland (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Midtjylland), Braga (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.C._Braga) all confirmed as seeded for 2nd round with Lugano all but rubber stamped unless Basle have a nightmare in sundays cup final






Also means we would definitely be seeded for the following round if we manage to beat Anderlecht, Braga or Midtjylland (big ask I know)

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Also means we would definitely be seeded for the following round if we manage to beat Anderlecht, Braga or Midtjylland (big ask I know)

Any bigger than beating either of the old firm though?

[Hibernian Verse]

Any bigger than beating either of the old firm though?

Anderlecht lost 15 league games this year and finished 4th. I'd fancy our chances.

[SteveHFC]

Anderlecht lost 15 league games this year and finished 4th. I'd fancy our chances.

That's why I am still confident they all are big nanes but they are starting in round before and our round for a reason

[SunshineOnLeith]

None of the seeds are going to be better than Rangers, and I'd fancy us against them over 2 legs at the moment.

[bingo70]

Any bigger than beating either of the old firm though?

In a one off game they’re all beatable, including the old firm. Over 2 legs would make it a lot more difficult.

Not impossible though. When I’ve watched Hearts in Europe recently I’ve never really been blown away by bigger opposition, with a bit more belief and conviction they should have won more games than they did.

Someone smarter than me also pointed out we are quite well suited to European football against bigger clubs as we’re really comfortable without the ball and happy to hit on the counter attack. We’re unlikely to go and open up and go toe to toe with them which would leave lots of space. I think there’s a very good chance whoever we get will underestimate us because of where we’re from.

I think we could give a bloody nose to all the teams in the draw we could get, obviously the better teams could give us a bit of a hiding, especially on their own turf though if we’re not at our best.

[EGL2000]

None of the seeds are going to be better than Rangers, and I'd fancy us against them over 2 legs at the moment.

The two legs make it much harder. I think everyone would accept these teams are better than us player by player. A one of game you could get a result for a number of reasons. However, over 2 legs thats much more limited as you've got longer for the team with more quality to shine through. Yes we can beat Celtic in a one of game. When was the last team we came out on top over 2 game aggregate against them?

[EGL2000]

In a one off game they’re all beatable, including the old firm. Over 2 legs would make it a lot more difficult.

Not impossible though. When I’ve watched Hearts in Europe recently I’ve never really been blown away by bigger opposition, with a bit more belief and conviction they should have won more games than they did.

Someone smarter than me also pointed out we are quite well suited to European football against bigger clubs as we’re really comfortable without the ball and happy to hit on the counter attack. We’re unlikely to go and open up and go toe to toe with them which would leave lots of space. I think there’s a very good chance whoever we get will underestimate us because of where we’re from.

I think we could give a bloody nose to all the teams in the draw we could get, obviously the better teams could give us a bit of a hiding, especially on their own turf though if we’re not at our best.

I thought fiorentina were streets ahead of hearts when they played there but I get what you mean. Would imagine Braga would be of similar difficulty if we were unlucky enough to draw them.

[EGL2000]

Was thinking Anderlecht would probably be the best shout of the bigger teams. However, they still have some really good players in their team with huge European experience.

Jan Vertonghen
Kasper Dolberg
Thorgan Hazard
Leander Dendonker

If we get them some really good players to test ourselves against!

[B.H.F.C]

Anderlecht had some decent results in Europe this season. Would be plenty options for getting there.

[Springbank]

Was thinking Anderlecht would probably be the best shout of the bigger teams. However, they still have some really good players in their team with huge European experience.

Jan Vertonghen
Kasper Dolberg
Thorgan Hazard
Leander Dendonker

If we get them some really good players to test ourselves against!

From what I gather Vertonghen has retired, Dwight Gayle style, after his last season as a pro, so he wouldn't be playing.

Am I right in thinking we are unbeaten against Anderlecht in all competitions (in 92/93 we drew 2-2 at ER, 1-1 away in Belgium)

[Thatdayinmay16]

Was thinking Anderlecht would probably be the best shout of the bigger teams. However, they still have some really good players in their team with huge European experience.

Jan Vertonghen
Kasper Dolberg
Thorgan Hazard
Leander Dendonker

If we get them some really good players to test ourselves against!

Vertonghen has just retired, so one less to worry about.

[MKHIBEE]

Your best case scenario is us not winning a single tie? Christ.

What would be the worst case scenario? Kicked out before we even play a game?

[big-mo]

Great updates Mo, why is the second round draw a day after? should just do it the same day.

Who knows, maybe just another excuse for and overnight jolly at UEFA HQ?

[SunshineOnLeith]

The two legs make it much harder. I think everyone would accept these teams are better than us player by player. A one of game you could get a result for a number of reasons. However, over 2 legs thats much more limited as you've got longer for the team with more quality to shine through. Yes we can beat Celtic in a one of game. When was the last team we came out on top over 2 game aggregate against them?


Celtic are (cup final performance aside) miles better than any team we'll play in our first tie. The very worst case scenario would be to get somebody almost as good as Rangers, but still worse. Our last two games against them are a win and a draw.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Celtic are (cup final performance aside) miles better than any team we'll play in our first tie. The very worst case scenario would be to get somebody almost as good as Rangers, but still worse. Our last two games against them are a win and a draw.

Shakhtar or Braga will be the same standard as Celtic. On paper, Shakhtar are probably better than them.


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[Paulie Walnuts]

Celtic are (cup final performance aside) miles better than any team we'll play in our first tie. The very worst case scenario would be to get somebody almost as good as Rangers, but still worse. Our last two games against them are a win and a draw.

Not sure about that. I’d suspect there’ll be a good few sides better than Rangers that we could get.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Shakhtar or Braga will be the same standard as Celtic. On paper, Shakhtar are probably better than them.


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You don't think Celtic are better than the third best team in Ukraine (who Celtic outperformed in this season's champions League considerably) or the fourth best team in Portugal who finished 25th in the same Europa League than Rangers finished 8th in?

They're both good sides but Celtic and Rangers would expect to take care of either of them pretty handily over two legs.

[Mcbizz1998]

Question - can we still get Lugano?

I quite fancy that as a trip.

[Hibernian Verse]

Question - can we still get Lugano?

I quite fancy that as a trip.

We can, the cup final is Sunday. However, it would be played in Geneva.

Thanks CG

[CapitalGreen]

We can, the cup final is tomorrow. However, it would be played in Geneva.

Sunday

[Wilson]

We can, the cup final is tomorrow. However, it would be played in Geneva.

By convention?

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

We can, the cup final is Sunday. However, it would be played in Geneva.

Thanks CG

Sounds like a bit of a Swiss to me.

[Since90+2]

You don't think Celtic are better than the third best team in Ukraine (who Celtic outperformed in this season's champions League considerably) or the fourth best team in Portugal who finished 25th in the same Europa League than Rangers finished 8th in?

They're both good sides but Celtic and Rangers would expect to take care of either of them pretty handily over two legs.

Shaktar I think have dropped off quite a bit since the war, they were a really good side before that, often making the CL knockout rounds. I agree these days you'd make Celtic favourites.

Still think we'd be massive underdogs against them though.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Shaktar I think have dropped off quite a bit since the war, they were a really good side before that, often making the CL knockout rounds. I agree these days you'd make Celtic favourites.

Still think we'd be massive underdogs against them though.

Of course we would, they're the best team (by quite a distance) we could face. All I'm saying is that whatever the draw, we'll have a chance of progressing - it's not an Aston Villa situation in this round.

[Mcbizz1998]

We can, the cup final is Sunday. However, it would be played in Geneva.

Thanks CG

Thanks.

Why would it be played in Geneva?

[B.H.F.C]

Thanks.

Why would it be played in Geneva?

Lugano play in a really small stadium.

Seen Geneva mentioned but the played in Thun last season I think.

[MKHIBEE]

Sounds like a bit of a Swiss to me.

You just need to roll with it

[Since90+2]

Of course we would, they're the best team (by quite a distance) we could face. All I'm saying is that whatever the draw, we'll have a chance of progressing - it's not an Aston Villa situation in this round.

Not sure they are the best team by a distance. Id make them against Braga or Anderlecht a 5050.

[Eyrie]

You just need to roll with it

Not more cheesy puns!

[MKHIBEE]

Not more cheesy puns!

Wotsit to you?

[Hibees1973]

Basel won the Swiss Cup today.

Lugano now showing on wiki as a seeded side in the Europa League qualifying round 2.

Now a possible opponent for us in this round.

[bingo70]

When is the draw for the earlier round and will we find out then who we will be getting at the same time as well?

[Hibees1973]

When is the draw for the earlier round and will we find out then who we will be getting at the same time as well?

Draw for qualifying round 1 is 17 June.

Draw for qualifying round 2 (when we come in) 18 June. So could be ?????? or ?????? v Hibs. We won't know until then if first leg is home or away. First leg of our game is 21 July.

[JeMeSouviens]

Not more cheesy puns!

This place is emmental at times.

[B.H.F.C]

Now the sides are confirmed there are definitely ties that we can either win or compete in IMO. Won’t be easy but we have at least a fighting chance against the majority. Would be looking to avoid Shakhtar and Braga.

I know a few need to get through Q1 but there doesn’t look much chance of a shock looking at it.

[Eyrie]

This place is emmental at times.

Gouda you to remind me.

[SteveHFC]

Now the sides are confirmed there are definitely ties that we can either win or compete in IMO. Won’t be easy but we have at least a fighting chance against the majority. Would be looking to avoid Shakhtar and Braga.

I know a few need to get through Q1 but there doesn’t look much chance of a shock looking at it.

I think we would beat Lugano and Sheriff Tiraspol.

[bingo70]

I think we would beat Lugano and Sheriff Tiraspol.

Sheriff are not showing as one of the seeded sides any more.

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1929240075277115396?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

I think we’d really need to avoid Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht (based on their profile as a club rather than being the 4th? Best team in Belgium) and Midtyjlland, everyone else we would be big underdogs for a reason but we would stand a chance if we played well and got a bit luck.

[SteveHFC]

Now the sides are confirmed there are definitely ties that we can either win or compete in IMO. Won’t be easy but we have at least a fighting chance against the majority. Would be looking to avoid Shakhtar and Braga.

I know a few need to get through Q1 but there doesn’t look much chance of a shock looking at it.

my travel plans are getting made on all the first round seeds winning for both possible away dates

[B.H.F.C]

I think we would beat Lugano and Sheriff Tiraspol.

I’d throw Partizan in with them as well. They best Lugano narrowly last year so assume they’re of a similar level. Think they’d be winnable ties.

Think Anderlecht, Warsaw and Midtjylland a step up from them but we would be competitive and have a chance. Would take two very good performances though.

Shakhtar and Braga would be two big shocks if we did anything .

[Springbank]

Paks of Hungary look like we'd stand a good chance

Nicky Cadden to (gou)lash one in from distance?

[Paul1642]

Sheriff are not showing as one of the seeded sides any more.

https://x.com/footrankings/status/1929240075277115396?s=46&t=VghJuoU_bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

I think we’d really need to avoid Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht (based on their profile as a club rather than being the 4th? Best team in Belgium) and Midtyjlland, everyone else we would be big underdogs for a reason but we would stand a chance if we played well and got a bit luck.

The X page Football Rankings that you have linked is great for showing the confirmed teams, but I’m not always sure how they decide which unconfirmed teams to include. For the most recent one you have linked, they have included FC Paksi as making it from round 1 over FC Sheriff, and also being seeded which I don’t understand since the QR2 draw isn’t made until the QR1 fixtures are completed (and QR1 not yet drawn).

Entering QR1 will be

Seeded

Ukraine - Shakhtar Donetsk
Poland - Legia Warsaw
Serbia - Partizan
Moldova - Sheriff Tiraspol
Romania - CFR Cluj
Israel - Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Slovenia - Celje
Slovakia - Spartak Trnava

Unseeded

Cyprus - AEK Larnaca
Sweden - Häcken
Hungary - Paks
Bulgaria - Levski Sofia
Azerbaijan - Sabah
Finland - Ilves
Kazakhstan - Aktobe
Kosovo - Prishtina


Eight of these teams will be joining us in QR2, Four of which will be seeded. The only thing I don’t understand is why FC Paksi, with the lowest coefficient score of the whole lot (even lower than us) could end up seeded. Drawing them is the dream.

I guess the best thing that could happen in the short term is as many as possible from Shakhtar Donetsk, Legia Warsaw and Partizan Belgrade loosing in QR1.

[Hibees1973]

I’d throw Partizan in with them as well. They best Lugano narrowly last year so assume they’re of a similar level. Think they’d be winnable ties.

Think Anderlecht, Warsaw and Midtjylland a step up from them but we would be competitive and have a chance. Would take two very good performances though.

Shakhtar and Braga would be two big shocks if we did anything .

Indeed, at present Lugano, Sheriff & Partizan are our best hope.

As Lugano are a seed for the 2nd qualifying round they are currently showing as 'to be confirmed' as a seed in the 3rd qualifying round. Their seeding is likely to be confirmed after the 1st qualifying round ties. Sheriff & Partizan have a higher coefficient than Lugano. It is possible, albeit a bit remote, that if we are drawn against either of these sides and beat them, we will assume their seeding and could play an unseeded side in the 3rd qualifying round.

Wolfsberg, Fredrikstad and Brann currently unseeded in the 3rd round.

Draw Braga at any point you can bin the above.

[DIXIHIBS]

Draw for qualifying round 1 is 17 June.

Draw for qualifying round 2 (when we come in) 18 June. So could be ?????? or ?????? v Hibs. We won't know until then if first leg is home or away. First leg of our game is 21 July.

First leg is 24th. 2nd leg 31st.

[bingo70]

The X page Football Rankings that you have linked is great for showing the confirmed teams, but I’m not always sure how they decide which unconfirmed teams to include. For the most recent one you have linked, they have included FC Paksi as making it from round 1 over FC Sheriff, and also being seeded which I don’t understand since the QR2 draw isn’t made until the QR1 fixtures are completed (and QR1 not yet drawn).

Entering QR1 will be

Seeded

Ukraine - Shakhtar Donetsk
Poland - Legia Warsaw
Serbia - Partizan
Moldova - Sheriff Tiraspol
Romania - CFR Cluj
Israel - Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Slovenia - Celje
Slovakia - Spartak Trnava

Unseeded

Cyprus - AEK Larnaca
Sweden - Häcken
Hungary - Paks
Bulgaria - Levski Sofia
Azerbaijan - Sabah
Finland - Ilves
Kazakhstan - Aktobe
Kosovo - Prishtina


Eight of these teams will be joining us in QR2, Four of which will be seeded. The only thing I don’t understand is why FC Paksi, with the lowest coefficient score of the whole lot (even lower than us) could end up seeded. Drawing them is the dream.

I guess the best thing that could happen in the short term is as many as possible from Shakhtar Donetsk, Legia Warsaw and Partizan Belgrade loosing in QR1.

Thanks mate, that’s really interesting.

Cheers

[Paul1642]

I have now figured out that anyone who beats Sheriff, Shakhtar, Warsaw or Partizan enters our draw seeded.

Clearly bored on a quiet Sunday night, I’ve ran our potential QR2 opponents through Transfermkt for squad value with the following results: Hibs squad comes in at £15.5 million for reference.

Seeded confirmed:

Braga £137 Million
Midtjylland £64 Million
Anderlecht £103 Million
Lugano £64 Million

Seeded unconfirmed:

Shakhtar: £165 Million
Legia Warsaw £36 Million
Sheriff - £7.5 Million
Partizan £27 Million

Unseeded from QR1 who we could face if they win against either of the seeded unconfirmed teams in QR1:

Larnaca - £12.3 Million
Häcken - £20 Million
Paks - £9.5 Million
Levski Sofia - £20 Million
Sabah - £12.5 Million
Ilves - £4.3 Million
Aktobe - £7.8 Million
Prishtina - £4.8 Million


If I’m correct these are the only possible draws for us. I think it’s safe to say that Sheriff winning and the rest of the seeded but unconfirmed teams losing is probably the best we can hope for prior to our own draw being made. That’s enough Wikipedia for today.

[Springbank]

Waiting for the song "I shot the sheriff and we're winning the Europa League"

[HoboHarry]

Waiting for the song "I shot the sheriff and we're winning the Europa League"

Holding aloft that Prishtina trophy would give us Braga rights over the Gorgie Partizans right enough....

[Fergus52]

Indeed, at present Lugano, Sheriff & Partizan are our best hope.

As Lugano are a seed for the 2nd qualifying round they are currently showing as 'to be confirmed' as a seed in the 3rd qualifying round. Their seeding is likely to be confirmed after the 1st qualifying round ties. Sheriff & Partizan have a higher coefficient than Lugano. It is possible, albeit a bit remote, that if we are drawn against either of these sides and beat them, we will assume their seeding and could play an unseeded side in the 3rd qualifying round.

Wolfsberg, Fredrikstad and Brann currently unseeded in the 3rd round.

Draw Braga at any point you can bin the above.

Sheriff and/or Lugano would only be seeded for Q3 if Shaktar, Legia or Partizan are knocked out in Q1, which is highly unlikely.

Considering that, I think I'd like to avoid Lugano or Sheriff as even if we put them out, we'd then be unseeded for both Europa Q3 and the the conference play-off draws, making it extremely difficult to qualify.

To have any chance of making the groups we need to successfully "steal" a good teams seeded coefficient for the next again round at some point.

That could either mean beating someone like Partizan or Anderlecht in Europa Q2 and then being seeded for Europa Q3 - or alternatively losing Europa Q2 (ideally at least with a great trip like Braga), then being drawn against someone like Shamrock Rovers, Macabi Haifa, Jagiellonia, or Omonia in conference Q3, who we could beat over 2 legs on a good day, but would also have us seeded for the play off.

[Paul1642]

Sheriff and/or Lugano would only be seeded for Q3 if Shaktar, Legia or Partizan are knocked out in Q1, which is highly unlikely.

Considering that, I think I'd like to avoid Lugano or Sheriff as even if we put them out, we'd then be unseeded for both Europa Q3 and the the conference play-off draws, making it extremely difficult to qualify.

To have any chance of making the groups we need to successfully "steal" a good teams seeded coefficient for the next again round at some point.

That could either mean beating someone like Partizan or Anderlecht in Europa Q2 and then being seeded for Europa Q3 - or alternatively losing Europa Q2 (ideally at least with a great trip like Braga), then being drawn against someone like Shamrock Rovers, Macabi Haifa, Jagiellonia, or Omonia in conference Q3, who we could beat over 2 legs on a good day, but would also have us seeded for the play off.

I agree with avoiding Lugano because it means we face a strong team, but with none of the seeding benefits.

Drawing Sheriff would be a good thing IMO. Draw a team we have a decent chance of beating, and worry about the next round should we get there. Getting through QR2 then dropping to the conference league from QR3 is far from the worst case scenario.

Better than drawing a good side like Braga whose seeding we could latch onto, only to then get humped.

Partizan or Liga Warsaw are probably the only two we have a chance to beat, and use their seeding.

[Sioux]

Perhaps it would be better for us to lose the EL qualifying round and take our chances with the Conf League teams.

[Paul1642]

Perhaps it would be better for us to lose the EL qualifying round and take our chances with the Conf League teams.

Regardless, we drop to the conference league qualifiers if / when we loose at any stage in the Europa league qualifiers, so better to win at least one round then drop in to the conference league playoffs than dropping down at the first hurdle.

No matter what, we need to win two rounds of qualifiers to reach the Conference league groups, with the leeway of one defeat allowed along the way. It doesn’t matter where we win those two rounds.

[Jock O]

Surely the ideal scenario is we win two EL games, get Aberdeen (can we play a team from our country?) in the final EL qualifier and then relegate them to conference groups while we sail on to EL groups, satisfied we get the bigger rewards and, even if only a little, get our revenge back on them.

Ambitious but not impossible?

[JasonC1875]

Surely the ideal scenario is we win two EL games, get Aberdeen (can we play a team from our country?) in the final EL qualifier and then relegate them to conference groups while we sail on to EL groups, satisfied we get the bigger rewards and, even if only a little, get our revenge back on them.

Ambitious but not impossible?

As nice as it would be it is impossible as we couldn’t draw them unfortunately

[Jock O]

As nice as it would be it is impossible as we couldn’t draw them unfortunately

I did wonder if there was some limitation, my Aberdeen supporting mates obviously don't know as i have been taunting them with that. Mind they are still not happy with me wanting them to lose final so they are maybe still just ignoring me.

[Billy Whizz]

I see Crystal Palace are at UEFA today pleading their case to stop being kicked out of the Europa League
Their majority owner who owns 43% of Palace, is the majority shareholder of Lyon, who are in the same tournament
Seemingly they could ask to go down to the Conference League, but Brondby are owned by the Palace other Co-owner, are in the conference league

I’m really surprised these things have surfaced frequently in the past

[Thatdayinmay16]

I see Crystal Palace are at UEFA today pleading their case to stop being kicked out of the Europa League
Their majority owner who owns 43% of Palace, is the majority shareholder of Lyon, who are in the same tournament
Seemingly they could ask to go down to the Conference League, but Brondby are owned by the Palace other Co-owner, are in the conference league

I’m really surprised these things have surfaced frequently in the past

They have, City & Girona last season.

Funny how it wasn't an issue for them.

[nonshinyfinish]

They have, City & Girona last season.

Funny how it wasn't an issue for them.

Also Leipzig and Salzburg, Brighton and Union SG.

I think it comes down to technicalities in the structure – percentages of ownership or arms-length stuff through an intermediate company.

[CropleyWasGod]

They have, City & Girona last season.

Funny how it wasn't an issue for them.

This explains how it was sorted.

https://www.catalannews.com/sports/item/uefa-gives-green-light-to-girona-fcto-compete-in-champions-league