Myko

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

An interesting take on the much-maligned one: https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/tactics/25093459.understanding-kuharevich-role-david-grays-hibs-team/

[Victor]

I think you can see what he is there for. First half on Saturday he did well holding the ball and pressing. He is also a good decoy with his forward runs. I don’t have problem with him and think he has room for improvement

[makaveli1875]

His biggest issue is the lack of goals, he's doing everything else pretty well . Was unlucky with that shot off the post , keeper was beaten he's just not getting the breaks infront of goal right now

[danhibees1875]

Is he in the "Christian Doidge" phase where his hard work and contributions are undervalued due to the lack of actual goals?

Maybe just needs the first goal to break the streak and add actual goals to his outputs!

[The Modfather]

I can’t see the article as it’s subscription only. However, I see Myko as similar to the role Campbell was doing. Campbell was doing a lot of stuff other than scoring or creating chances. Eventually there came a time when that wasn’t enough and he was dropped. That’s the stage Myko has passed IMO. Does a job for an hour but when the likes of Bowie & Gayle replace him we almost immediately look a lot more potent and threatening IMO.

Not the worst player, but he’s fortunate Bowie & Gayle struggle to play 90 minutes IMO.

[CapitalGreen]

I find the comparison to the rest of the league a bit odd when most teams don’t play a high press. A more useful comparison would be to our alternative attacking options as they are more relevant to the debate on whether he should be starting.

The stats presented in the article tell us what he is doing defensively but doesn’t offer any statistical insight into how that translates into results.

The reality is we score less and concede more goals when Myko plays. We give up attacking threat for no improvement defensively. Our net goal difference when he is on the pitch compared to off is negative.

[Donegal Hibby]

I can’t see the article as it’s subscription only. However, I see Myko as similar to the role Campbell was doing. Campbell was doing a lot of stuff other than scoring or creating chances. Eventually there came a time when that wasn’t enough and he was dropped. That’s the stage Myko has passed IMO. Does a job for an hour but when the likes of Bowie & Gayle replace him we almost immediately look a lot more potent and threatening IMO.

Not the worst player, but he’s fortunate Boyle & Gayle struggle to play 90 minutes IMO.

Does Boyle struggle to play 90 minute minutes?

[ancient hibee]

I can’t see the article as it’s subscription only. However, I see Myko as similar to the role Campbell was doing. Campbell was doing a lot of stuff other than scoring or creating chances. Eventually there came a time when that wasn’t enough and he was dropped. That’s the stage Myko has passed IMO. Does a job for an hour but when the likes of Bowie & Gayle replace him we almost immediately look a lot more potent and threatening IMO.

Not the worst player, but he’s fortunate Bowie & Gayle struggle to play 90 minutes IMO.

Bowie and Gayle are better goal scorers but when they come on defenders are feeling the effects of 60 minutes chasing . The system with substitutions is working extremely well.

[Jock O]

Bowie and Gayle are better goal scorers but when they come on defenders are feeling the effects of 60 minutes chasing . The system with substitutions is working extremely well.

I totally agree with that, last couple of games they have been run ragged with Myko and Boyle, Gray has said openly he will always make changes during game, and as you say it is working pretty well at the moment. Myko has really steadily improved recently in last few games, and we are winning with him as a big part of the plan

That is twice in recent games Myko has been a baw hair away from scoring, that would just be cream on top if he could get a couple before he leaves, he definitely deserves it now, the first one he rushed it but Saturdays he recovered excellently from his first touch and was so unlucky with the shot off the post, he was actually really close with a great strike earlier too. If he grabs a couple before going off next game it might make a the second half just a nice easy stroll in the park for the subs coming on :-)

[B.H.F.C]

I think he’s done all right in the last few games. But strikers need to be scoring goals. I think Bowie will be in for him up at Aberdeen.

[ancient hibee]

I think he’s done all right in the last few games. But strikers need to be scoring goals. I think Bowie will be in for him up at Aberdeen.
I don’t think so.Bowie isn’t fit enough to play for an hour of pressing that Gray wants.Much better for him to come on and score in the last thirty minutes.

[erin go bragh]

For me, he has been a massive disappointment as first loan, he looked sharp and likely to score every game ( when fit)he but this time he has almost been like playing with a man short.

[DarlingtonHibee]

I don’t think so.Bowie isn’t fit enough to play for an hour of pressing that Gray wants.Much better for him to come on and score in the last thirty minutes.

This 👍

[1875Sean]

For me, he has been a massive disappointment as first loan, he looked sharp and likely to score every game ( when fit)he but this time he has almost been like playing with a man short.

A bit harsh, sure gray wouldn’t be picking him week after week if he was a man down

[JimBHibees]

I think you can see what he is there for. First half on Saturday he did well holding the ball and pressing. He is also a good decoy with his forward runs. I don’t have problem with him and think he has room for improvement

Agree he is getting better week by week

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Wonder what his market value will be in the summer?

Missing chances but SDG keeps starting him and we keep winning...

[Donegal Hibby]

I like Myko and thought in our last couple of games he’s played well and was unfortunate not to score in the last one. I don’t think he’s been as effective as the first time we had him and looks like a striker maybe short on confidence that’s needing a goal ..

Even though he’s not been scoring the shift he’s putting in for the team is probably important considering Bowie isn’t right fit yet and is a player we are going to need for the final push . Bowie I’d imagine will be our main striker next season but whatever happens with Myko i appreciate the effort he puts in for our team all the same …

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/kieron-bowie-tipped-top-hibs-31438385

[Forza Fred]

You can do all sorts of support work but if you are a striker and not scoring goals you will be replaced, just as Monty as coach found out that you can promote all the youngsters you want, but if you aren’t winning games you will be sacked.

[CapitalGreen]

Quite a few posts saying he’s unlucky not to have scored, the fact is he is just a very poor finisher which is borne out on his finishing stats compared to his attacking teammates.

28704

He takes shots more regularly than his teammates but is the worst at hitting the target. Of our 4 fit strikers he has the worst shot conversion rate at only 9%! For added comparison Vente’s shot conversion rate was 14% and Doidge was 15%.

He’s had 10 shots across our previous 2 home games and only hit the target once. Now we are fortunate that we can get away with that sort of finishing against the 2 worst teams in the league at home. However, in our final 5 games, particularly away from home, we will need our attackers to be a lot more clinical as we are unlikely to be afforded as many chances.

[danhibees1875]

Myko hattrick vs Aberdeen incoming.

[Alfred E Newman]

I thought he had one of his best 60 mins on Sunday.. He helped wear down their central defenders and they just collapsed after the subs came on.

[worcesterhibby]

I really think the regular subbing of our forwards is tactically brilliant. The pressing game we play is pretty much impossible to sustain over 90 minutes. So having two great forwards to bring on for 60 mins, full of energy and running is proving to be a nightmare for opposition defences. It gives them another dilemma too.. do they bring on fresh legs in defence to counter it? Which for most teams will mean brining on inferior players and also means they have few options for positive substitutes.

even once Bowie is fully fit, I can see SDG continuing with the same tactics.. keeps our forwards fresher too and should mean we get less injuries in that key part of the team, as players are playing less minutes ( but keeping very sharp due to the intensity of the time they do have on the pitch)

it also means that older players, with huge experience like Gayle and Hoillett flourish in the team as they aren’t being asked to put in strenuous 90 minutes shifts very often, so it gives us the opportunity to continue to sign class finishers, that might struggle over a full 90 due to age Having them mentoring the likes of Bowie and Dean Cleland must be so beneficial.

[basehibby]

In his first loan spell, Myko was scoring roughly one goal every 180 mins - so there's no denying he's been under par this season in that respect. Other than that though, he's played well last couple of matches and, as commented elsewhere, it suits our high pressing style to be able to bring on subs for our front players. So overall, I'm glad to have him - would love to see him burst the back of the net a few times over the next 5 games though.

[Fergus52]

Quite a few posts saying he’s unlucky not to have scored, the fact is he is just a very poor finisher which is borne out on his finishing stats compared to his attacking teammates.

28704

He takes shots more regularly than his teammates but is the worst at hitting the target. Of our 4 fit strikers he has the worst shot conversion rate at only 9%! For added comparison Vente’s shot conversion rate was 14% and Doidge was 15%.

He’s had 10 shots across our previous 2 home games and only hit the target once. Now we are fortunate that we can get away with that sort of finishing against the 2 worst teams in the league at home. However, in our final 5 games, particularly away from home, we will need our attackers to be a lot more clinical as we are unlikely to be afforded as many chances.

His finishing has been pretty rubbish this season, as your stats point out.

But he scored some nice goals and had a decent conversion rate for a couple of months under Johnson before getting injured, if I remember right.

Could be a Doidge situation where he just needs a couple to go in and it will start clicking again.

Only a few games left of the season and doubt we'll go for him over the summer anyway though.

[Unseen work]

This might sound weird, but I’m not even sure it’s Myk’s finishing that’s the problem.

To me it’s his composure and decision making that’s the issue at the moment. He seems desperate to score that he’s lashing at things and taking a shot when he’s not properly set for it or just isn’t in a position to do so.

Gayle for example is so much better in this (understandably given his career) but he seems to shoot when it’s right.

The other issue with Myk is he just never really seems in a position to get a goal, maybe needs to work on gaining/finding a yard of space in the box aswell as the composure/decision making.

I was one that wanted him back, but he’s been dissapointing, albeit much better last couple of games. In his previous loan I thought he was a right handful and would bash centre halves about, now it seems like he’s the one getting bashed about a bit - I think he needs to work on his balance when the ball is getting played up to him as it will make him stronger and better at protecting the ball

[B.H.F.C]

This might sound weird, but I’m not even sure it’s Myk’s finishing that’s the problem.

To me it’s his composure and decision making that’s the issue at the moment. He seems desperate to score that he’s lashing at things and taking a shot when he’s not properly set for it or just isn’t in a position to do so.

Gayle for example is so much better in this (understandably given his career) but he seems to shoot when it’s right.

The other issue with Myk is he just never really seems in a position to get a goal, maybe needs to work on gaining/finding a yard of space in the box aswell as the composure/decision making.

I was one that wanted him back, but he’s been dissapointing, albeit much better last couple of games. In his previous loan I thought he was a right handful and would bash centre halves about, now it seems like he’s the one getting bashed about a bit - I think he needs to work on his balance when the ball is getting played up to him as it will make him stronger and better at protecting the ball

A lot of that is probably down to lack of experience. He’s nearly 24 but has played less than a hundred games in his career.

I think he has some of the attributes to be a decent player but he’s not improved enough.

[worcesterhibby]

A lot of that is probably down to lack of experience. He’s nearly 24 but has played less than a hundred games in his career.

I think he has some of the attributes to be a decent player but he’s not improved enough.

At least he's shown he's not injury prone, that was one of the concerns when we brought him back

[Smartie]

This might sound weird, but I’m not even sure it’s Myk’s finishing that’s the problem.

To me it’s his composure and decision making that’s the issue at the moment. He seems desperate to score that he’s lashing at things and taking a shot when he’s not properly set for it or just isn’t in a position to do so.

Gayle for example is so much better in this (understandably given his career) but he seems to shoot when it’s right.

The other issue with Myk is he just never really seems in a position to get a goal, maybe needs to work on gaining/finding a yard of space in the box aswell as the composure/decision making.

I was one that wanted him back, but he’s been dissapointing, albeit much better last couple of games. In his previous loan I thought he was a right handful and would bash centre halves about, now it seems like he’s the one getting bashed about a bit - I think he needs to work on his balance when the ball is getting played up to him as it will make him stronger and better at protecting the ball

Agree 100% with your “the other issue” bit.

For Bowie’s goals on Saturday, I simply don’t believe that Myko would have been in either of those spots in order to finish.

I like Myko though, and I do think his contribution to our play outside the box is largely excellent. I couldn’t care less if he doesn’t score, as long as others are scoring and the team is winning.

[badabing67]

For me, he has been a massive disappointment as first loan, he looked sharp and likely to score every game ( when fit)he but this time he has almost been like playing with a man short.

Cannot agree with this at all. He has started our last 3 games and we have won them 3-0 0-2 and 4-0 and one of those was away to Ibrox, you do not get results like that with 10 men for an hour, that is just nonsense imo. FWIW I think he is getting more effective game by game, I expect goals will come his way soon enough

[Hibspur]

Cannot agree with this at all. He has started our last 3 games and we have won them 3-0 0-2 and 4-0 and one of those was away to Ibrox, you do not get results like that with 10 men for an hour, that is just nonsense imo. FWIW I think he is getting more effective game by game, I expect goals will come his way soon enough

Yep, I'd agree with that. I actually like him as a player. A couple of goals would have done him the world of good though.

[B.H.F.C]

Expect he’ll be back in the team next week. Bowie looked miles off the pace today, as he did in his last start at Kilmarnock.

I actually thought bringing Bowie in was the right shout but you could see after 10 minutes why we’d been going with Myko from the start.

[ancient hibee]

Yes,wrong time to change something that was working .

[Smartie]

Yes,wrong time to change something that was working .

Whilst I’m 100% one of those who have been defending Myko’s recent level of performance (I think his general play has been more than satisfactory and the split of games between Myko and Bowie has been highly effective) I also think think that Gray had decent justification to make that change based on Bowie looking a far greater threat in his shorter time on the pitch vs Dundee.

Hindsight clearly registers it as a mistake but it’s far from the most contentious decision Gray will ever make.

[neil7908]

I don't think Myko makes a big difference if he starts at Aberdeen. There was zero link between midfield and attack. We looked like a team desperate to come away with a point straight from kick off.

[JimBHibees]

I don't think Myko makes a big difference if he starts at Aberdeen. There was zero link between midfield and attack. We looked like a team desperate to come away with a point straight from kick off.

Think he gets about the pitch better and Bowie has looked better as impact imo

[JimBHibees]

Whilst I’m 100% one of those who have been defending Myko’s recent level of performance (I think his general play has been more than satisfactory and the split of games between Myko and Bowie has been highly effective) I also think think that Gray had decent justification to make that change based on Bowie looking a far greater threat in his shorter time on the pitch vs Dundee.

Hindsight clearly registers it as a mistake but it’s far from the most contentious decision Gray will ever make.

Think that is fair

[ancient hibee]

Whilst I’m 100% one of those who have been defending Myko’s recent level of performance (I think his general play has been more than satisfactory and the split of games between Myko and Bowie has been highly effective) I also think think that Gray had decent justification to make that change based on Bowie looking a far greater threat in his shorter time on the pitch vs Dundee.

Hindsight clearly registers it as a mistake but it’s far from the most contentious decision Gray will ever make.

I think Bowiei is so effective because he comes on as a sub,knows how long he will play and paces himself accordingly. I suspect that he will not be properly fit until next season after a concentrated pre season

[Donegal Hibby]

Think he gets about the pitch better and Bowie has looked better as impact imo

I agree .. wee question , would Myko possibly been a better option to put on for Bowie than Gayle ?

[JimBHibees]

I agree .. wee question , would Myko possibly been a better option to put on for Bowie than Gayle ?

Personally would have done that

[BILLYHIBS]

Need to get back to winning ways asap and get back on the front foot starting from Saturday

Myko starts to soften them up Bowie the last half hour and hopefully grabs another brace

Obita has done brilliant but need to get Nicky Cadden back in gives us more of an attacking option with his delivery experience and determination

Lewis Miller back would be great but only SDG knows how far N Cadden and Miller are fitness wise

GGTTH