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gbhibby
10-04-2025, 05:21 PM
He has been tremendous I think SC should be looking at him for next Scotland squad.

Since90+2
10-04-2025, 05:27 PM
If he keeps his form up he won't be far away, that's for sure.

Player of the season for me after Cadden.

Brummie_Hibs
10-04-2025, 05:42 PM
Might get called up for end of season friendlies, as a future backup.

However, his age is against him, and I fear Clarke's tenure will be over before the end of the year.

The focus will then be a rebuild of the Scottish squad with youth being moulded around the younger, more established players

gbhibby
10-04-2025, 05:45 PM
Might get called up for end of season friendlies, as a future backup.

However, his age is against him, and I fear Clarke's tenure will be over before the end of the year.

The focus will then be a rebuild of the Scottish squad with youth being moulded around the younger, more established players
He is only 28.younger than Gauld and Christie.

SteveHFC
10-04-2025, 05:46 PM
Might get called up for end of season friendlies, as a future backup.

However, his age is against him, and I fear Clarke's tenure will be over before the end of the year.

The focus will then be a rebuild of the Scottish squad with youth being moulded around the younger, more established players

Clarke still plays Hanley and McLean.

Since90+2
10-04-2025, 05:51 PM
Might get called up for end of season friendlies, as a future backup.

However, his age is against him, and I fear Clarke's tenure will be over before the end of the year.

The focus will then be a rebuild of the Scottish squad with youth being moulded around the younger, more established players

I can't think of many young centre halfs that would be good enough to mould the Scotland team around.

Brummie_Hibs
10-04-2025, 05:54 PM
Clarke still plays Hanley and McLean.
Players who have served Scotland/Clarke well over the years. Tried and tested, if not maybe the best

Iredale has had 1 good season. On form he deserves a call up, but he's not somebody to build a team around.

If we don't qualify for the World Cup, which I don't think we will, then he'll be about 30 by the next Euro Championship qualifying begins. Not over the hill, but not one for long term vision either

Brummie_Hibs
10-04-2025, 05:57 PM
I can't think of many young centre halfs that would be good enough to mould the Scotland team around.
It should be Souttar and Porto. Although Porto is trying his damnest not to be included in that

gbhibby
10-04-2025, 06:01 PM
It should be Souttar and Porto. Although Porto is trying his damnest not to be included in that

Soapy is the same age as Iredale. Sometimes as an international manger you need to pick players on form.

Brummie_Hibs
10-04-2025, 06:09 PM
Soapy is the same age as Iredale. Sometimes as an international manger you need to pick players on form.
He is, but he's established himself. And god it took many years to prove himself. Iredale is an unknown.

I think Scotland are going to slip into a bit of a doldrum for a few years. Clarke has taken them as far as he can, and the days of Robertson, McGinn, Tierney, et al. Are gone.

It's rebuild time.

Since90+2
10-04-2025, 06:16 PM
He is, but he's established himself. And god it took many years to prove himself. Iredale is an unknown.

I think Scotland are going to slip into a bit of a doldrum for a few years. Clarke has taken them as far as he can, and the days of Robertson, McGinn, Tierney, et al. Are gone.

It's rebuild time.

McGinn is probably Scotland's best player. Robertson, although not the player he was, is still playing almost every week for Liverpool who are the best team in England.

The idea that these top level guys are going to be replaced anytime soon is fanciful IMO.

Brummie_Hibs
10-04-2025, 06:22 PM
McGinn is probably Scotland's best player. Robertson, although not the player he was, is still playing almost every week for Liverpool who are the best team in England.

The idea that these top level guys are going to be replaced anytime soon is fanciful IMO.
This isn't club football. You think in 2 year segments.

If Scotland don't qualify by the end of this year, then it's another year before things get going again. They ain't getting younger.

Robertson is showing his age. Rumours of McGinn bring sold. Tierney will be injured by September.

If you are the new Scotland manger on a 5 year contract, who do you look to?

McTom, Gilmour, Ferguson and more are the future.

Since90+2
10-04-2025, 06:29 PM
This isn't club football. You think in 2 year segments.

If Scotland don't qualify by the end of this year, then it's another year before things get going again. They ain't getting younger.

Robertson is showing his age. Rumours of McGinn bring sold. Tierney will be injured by September.

If you are the new Scotland manger on a 5 year contract, who do you look to?

McTom, Gilmour, Ferguson and more are the future.

McGinn is 30, Robertson just turned 31 a few weeks ago.

They are not old players.

They will be playing for Scotland for many years to come, as will Tierney if he stays fit, for the simple reason they are the best players we have.

gbhibby
10-04-2025, 06:33 PM
You need to pick players in form for international football. Age is irrelevant you need results now. So what is wrong with picking a player in form. Clarke has stood by players playing and some players who are not starting from teams in the lower leagues in England he has been too loyal to some players.

Brummie_Hibs
10-04-2025, 06:36 PM
McGinn is 30, Robertson just turned 31 a few weeks ago.

They are not old players.

They will be playing for Scotland for many years to come, as will Tierney if he stays fit, for the simple reason they are the best players we have.
Agreed not old, old.

But as an international manager you also have responsibility for bringing through the next generation of players. If you don't, then you end up in a post-Craig Brown situation.

gbhibby
10-04-2025, 06:41 PM
Agreed not old, old.

But as an international manager you also have responsibility for bringing through the next generation of players. If you don't, then you end up in a post-Craig Brown situation.
Is there much coming through? You ask a Scotland fan they want results now not in 5 years time.

Since90+2
10-04-2025, 06:49 PM
Agreed not old, old.

But as an international manager you also have responsibility for bringing through the next generation of players. If you don't, then you end up in a post-Craig Brown situation.

They have a responsibility to win games more than anything else.

eastmainsmsh
10-04-2025, 06:56 PM
Must be getting watched at least Josh Doig must be a shout as well

He's here!
10-04-2025, 07:12 PM
I thought he's Australian?

Whatever, I'm personally not too bothered if Hibs players stay under the radar internationally. Saves us from worrying about injuries. What happened with Bowie still irritates me.

He's here!
10-04-2025, 07:14 PM
McGinn is 30, Robertson just turned 31 a few weeks ago.

They are not old players.

They will be playing for Scotland for many years to come, as will Tierney if he stays fit, for the simple reason they are the best players we have.

Hadn't realised McGinn was that old. I guess he's been away from Hibs a good number of years now.

gbhibby
10-04-2025, 07:16 PM
I thought he's Australian?

Whatever, I'm personally not too bothered if Hibs players stay under the radar internationally. Saves us from worrying about injuries. What happened with Bowie still irritates me.
Born in Greenock

Smartie
10-04-2025, 07:21 PM
Agreed not old, old.

But as an international manager you also have responsibility for bringing through the next generation of players. If you don't, then you end up in a post-Craig Brown situation.

Craig Brown did very well with the players he had at his disposal.

The quality of player Vogts and subsequent managers had were inferior. I’m not sure how much of that is down to any international manager we had.

As far as I’m concerned international football is about getting the best team out here and now. Planning for the future does have its place but it is a results business first and foremost. At 28 Iredale is certainly at an age I’d be considering. Tbh, I’m one of those who would have had Simon Murray in the squad and possibly the team in recent seasons.

He's here!
10-04-2025, 07:24 PM
Born in Greenock

But capped several times by Australia?

Bridge hibs
10-04-2025, 07:29 PM
But capped several times by Australia?

5 times for Australia U17s, dont think that disqualifies him for a Scotland call up

Up-the-slope
10-04-2025, 07:36 PM
Now the Scots-born Aussie defender is excelling at Hibs (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/hibernian-fc), fighting for a place in Europe, competing for a Scottish Cup (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/scottish-cup) AND in contention for a Socceroos call-up

He is quoted as saying hoping for full cap for Aussies. Has dual citizenship

He's here!
10-04-2025, 07:41 PM
5 times for Australia U17s, dont think that disqualifies him for a Scotland call up

Ah, OK. Thought I'd read he was a full cap.

I do think that you should have to stick with the team you start out with internationally mind you. We'd have quite some Aussie contingent if he gets a cap for them (Boyle etc must surely be recommending him).

Since452
10-04-2025, 07:48 PM
Is he not Australian?

JohnM1875
10-04-2025, 07:49 PM
Is he not Australian?

Scottish. Born in Greenock

Up-the-slope
10-04-2025, 08:02 PM
Scottish. Born in Greenock
Has dual citizenship

Musselbound
10-04-2025, 08:09 PM
This isn't club football. You think in 2 year segments.

If Scotland don't qualify by the end of this year, then it's another year before things get going again. They ain't getting younger.

Robertson is showing his age. Rumours of McGinn bring sold. Tierney will be injured by September.

If you are the new Scotland manger on a 5 year contract, who do you look to?

McTom, Gilmour, Ferguson and more are the future.

Agree with some of your points but I don't see any defenders on that list and can't think of many either. Even the likes of Porteous is now 26 and I'm not sure he's progressing.

1875Sean
10-04-2025, 08:33 PM
Think he would rather get called up by the Australian and would realistically get more caps for them than Scotland

Brummie_Hibs
10-04-2025, 08:37 PM
Agree with some of your points but I don't see any defenders on that list and can't think of many either. Even the likes of Porteous is now 26 and I'm not sure he's progressing.
Unfortunately probably correct.

You have Kerr Smith at Villa, but he's a long way away. Charlie McArthur is closer, but even he's as close as France

Cabbage-Patch
13-04-2025, 04:04 PM
Said it before but Stevie Clarke needs to get this lad capped before the aussies come sniffing. He absolutely strolled it today and offers so much more than Hanley and Souttar.

Bowie won't be far off either if he continues like he did today. Deadly in front of the goal. Something scotland really lacks
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AmericanKev
13-04-2025, 04:26 PM
Yes be a great call up

1875M
13-04-2025, 05:45 PM
Surprised he’s not getting more credit. Been sensational since coming into that LCB slot and brings good composure to the back line. He’s been a brilliant signing and seems a good lad too.

Hibs Go Bragh
13-04-2025, 06:52 PM
He is sensational and easily my favourite player.

Best defender in Scotland and it’s not even close!

JohnM1875
13-04-2025, 07:03 PM
If we don’t Australia will. Probably sees himself as more Australian anyway given he grew up there.

Don’t think we will unfortunately. Clarke is a diddy.

Hiber-nation
13-04-2025, 07:08 PM
Sublime yet again today. Must be in the lead for our player of the year.

1875Sean
20-04-2025, 10:51 AM
Seen this earlier, puts to bed him wanting to play for Scotland

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/25101530.hibs-jack-iredale-hopeful-australia-call-up-june/

I represented Australia at under-17 and since then, I've been desperate to get back in – I’ve got agent Boyle on the case!”

Hibs’ Jack Iredale hopes he can give Tony Popovic food for thought after missing out on a Socceroos call last time out

chippy
20-04-2025, 11:12 AM
Seen this earlier, puts to bed him wanting to play for Scotland

https://www.hibsobserver.co.uk/news/25101530.hibs-jack-iredale-hopeful-australia-call-up-june/

I represented Australia at under-17 and since then, I've been desperate to get back in – I’ve got agent Boyle on the case!”

Hibs’ Jack Iredale hopes he can give Tony Popovic food for thought after missing out on a Socceroos call last time out
Does anyone think he’d turn down Scotland if he was selected before the Aussies did?

I'm_cabbaged
20-04-2025, 07:42 PM
Better chance of making a World Cup

Speedy
21-04-2025, 03:41 AM
Does anyone think he’d turn down Scotland if he was selected before the Aussies did?

Sounds like it. He'll know he's not far away from an Australian cap

JimBHibees
21-04-2025, 08:01 AM
Sounds like it. He'll know he's not far away from an Australian cap

Assume he has family there and may want to live there after he stops playing

Since90+2
21-04-2025, 08:05 AM
If Scotland call him up I'd be surprised if he turned it down.

Yes Australia have a better chance of making the world cup due to their easier qualification route but with Scotland you are involved in some massive games during qualification.

Speedy
22-04-2025, 03:05 AM
If Scotland call him up I'd be surprised if he turned it down.

Yes Australia have a better chance of making the world cup due to their easier qualification route but with Scotland you are involved in some massive games during qualification.

His comments during the Hibees Buzz were along the lines of 'I've always felt Australian, I'm confident in my game and I'll keep doing what I'm doing'. He also referred to the fact the Australian management team are obviously watching our games given there are 3 others in the squad.

There was no reference to, 'but I'd be open to a conversation with Steve Clarke' or anything to suggest he was wanting a Scotland call up. Which tbh, is quite admirable.