Champions League if The Rangers win the Europa League [Archive]

Paul1642

08-04-2025, 09:25 PM

I believe that 3rd place would get the qualification route currently going to 2nd place because Rangers who are going to come 2nd would be removed from the equation due their Europa league win qualification spot.

That would mean a qualifying round (or more than one?) for the Champions league, dropping into the Europa league group stages like Rangers did this year if we lost.

Basically as hugely unlikely as it is to happen, Rangers winning the Europa League would be great for us, also providing the fall back of a Europa league qualification round and guaranteed conference league group stages (our current hope from 3rd) if we were to finish 4th (unless Hearts or St Johnstone won the cup).

I think this is all at least slightly accurate 😂

SHODAN

08-04-2025, 09:26 PM

As long as we're still guaranteed group stage football, would be just like us to get into one of the CL qualifying rounds that arbitrarily doesn't drop down to the Europa.

danhibees1875

08-04-2025, 09:39 PM

gbhibby

08-04-2025, 09:47 PM

It was bad enough that if Hibs got 3rd I'd have to cheer on Celtic, now you're telling me it's Rangers too?

Wait, would that Champions league spot go to the cup winners? If rangers win the europa and Hearts win the Scottish cup and get our champions league football then I'm out.

Would the cup winners if not Celtic only be guaranteed what the team who got the champions league being 3rd position would have got as the champions league position is based on league position. So potentially the top 6 could all qualify for European football. My brain hurts

theonlywayisup

09-04-2025, 06:27 AM

Would the cup winners if not Celtic only be guaranteed what the team who got the champions league being 3rd position would have got as the champions league position is based on league position. So potentially the top 6 could all qualify for European football. My brain hurts

If The Rangers win the Europa Cup, they would enter the Champions League qualifying.

If a team other than Celtic win the Scottish Cup, they would enter Europa League qualifying.

The team in third place would take Champions League qualifying spot.

The teams finishing 4th and 5th would enter Conference League, if St Johnstone win the cup. 6th place would qualify, if St Johnstone don't.

Is my understanding.

theonlywayisup

09-04-2025, 06:29 AM

Hightly unlikely scenario though. If The Rangers can't beat Quuens Park, St Mirren, Motherwell and Hibs at home, they are not going to worry the other teams remaining in the Europa League.

hibsbollah

09-04-2025, 06:51 AM

Hightly unlikely scenario though. If The Rangers can't beat Quuens Park, St Mirren, Motherwell and Hibs at home, they are not going to worry the other teams remaining in the Europa League.

Nico Williams vs Tavernier will hopefully just be amusing. I might even watch.

Trinity Hibee

09-04-2025, 07:48 AM

AmericanKev

09-04-2025, 08:34 AM

That would be amazing 😍

Northernhibee

09-04-2025, 08:43 AM

What we’re saying is that as long as Barry can keep up his end of the bargain then we’re winning the Champions League next season :hyper

erin go bragh

09-04-2025, 09:24 AM

As we have already dined at the top table of a European cup Semi final.unlike a certain team from Gorgie.
Rangers will be lucky to reach the Semi finals, so no be holding out much hope for them winning it.

Since90+2

09-04-2025, 09:31 AM

Sevco ain't winning the Europa league so I wouldn't give it too much thought.

MKHIBEE

09-04-2025, 11:09 AM

Just reading England now get 5 CL places after arsenals win last night and it could potentially increase to 7 if other teams perform in Europe.

I like the new CL format but a country getting 7! Or even 5 places is way off. Given Scotland doesn’t even get an automatic group stage place it’s a bit of a farce
It’s farcical at the moment, soon to be beyond that. 25% or 33% of EPL clubs in the CHAMPIONS league? Let’s go back to the old champions only format.

jakedance

09-04-2025, 12:27 PM

Would be great to see Hibs in the Champions League a year ahead of schedule.

Trinity Hibee

09-04-2025, 12:33 PM

It’s farcical at the moment, soon to be beyond that. 25% or 33% of EPL clubs in the CHAMPIONS league? Let’s go back to the old champions only format.

As we know, it’s all about the money and getting the biggest clubs into the tournament rather than having representation from many of the associations. Quite sad really that it’s being run for the big guns rather than for everyone.

We have the same with SPFL though. Everything built around 2 clubs.

ballengeich

09-04-2025, 01:43 PM

It was mentioned on one of the podcasts that in the unlikely event that The Rangers win the Europa League 3rd place would get champions league. Would that be the case?
Not as I understand it. All that would happen is that Rangers would get directly into the champions league group stage, skipping the qualifying rounds.

Donegal Hibby

09-04-2025, 02:24 PM

Sevco ain't winning the Europa league so I wouldn't give it too much thought.

I wouldn’t want to see them win it under any circumstances TBH .

WeAreHibs

09-04-2025, 02:59 PM

I wouldn’t want to see them win it under any circumstances TBH .

Same!

AmericanKev

09-04-2025, 03:01 PM

I wouldn’t want to see them win it under any circumstances TBH .

Not even if it helps hibs? That's what was told in another thread

Billy Whizz

09-04-2025, 04:56 PM

Not as I understand it. All that would happen is that Rangers would get directly into the champions league group stage, skipping the qualifying rounds.

They have a higher coefficient than Celtic seemingly
Seems bizarre you can pick up more points on the EL/CL than Celtic do in the champions League
To be fair Celtic have been rank rotten in the CL for a number of years

flash

09-04-2025, 05:25 PM

I wouldn’t want to see them win it under any circumstances TBH .

If it helped us get something better I wouldn't give it a second thought.
I love Hibs much more than I hate Rangers.

AmericanKev

10-04-2025, 12:18 AM

If it helped us get something better I wouldn't give it a second thought.
I love Hibs much more than I hate Rangers.
Correct

they almost won it in 2022 and i was actually cheering them on as I knew some people who were there and it wasn't a game that affects hibs. Domestically that's a bit different but this was Europe

Donegal Hibby

10-04-2025, 01:07 AM

Not even if it helps hibs? That's what was told in another thread

Where I’m at with this is … when hertz were in Europe is it not in our best interest they do well too ? , you want them to do well ? Personally I wanted the bu**ers knocked out as soon as possible as I do other teams we are competing with in our league …

As to Sevco … I hate them with a passion and hoping they win a European trophy I don’t want to see EVER even if it helps us marginally.

danhibees1875

10-04-2025, 04:43 AM

Correct

they almost won it in 2022 and i was actually cheering them on as I knew some people who were there and it wasn't a game that affects hibs. Domestically that's a bit different but this was Europe

Domestically it typically helps Hibs if they win. Will certainly be wanting a Rangers win on Saturday.

danhibees1875

10-04-2025, 04:45 AM

Where I’m at with this is … when hertz were in Europe is it not in our best interest they do well too ? , you want them to do well ? Personally I wanted the bu**ers knocked out as soon as possible as I do other teams we are competing with in our league …

As to Sevco … I hate them with a passion and hoping they win a European trophy I don’t want to see EVER even if it helps us marginally.

Hearts euro wins for coefficient are marginal. If we end up 3rd then qualifying for the champions league would probably be a once a once in a lifetime event.

JohnM1875

10-04-2025, 06:10 AM

As long as we're still guaranteed group stage football, would be just like us to get into one of the CL qualifying rounds that arbitrarily doesn't drop down to the Europa.

If it’s the same as this season and Huns winning meant we’d get the prize for second place, then we’d enter the Champions League third qualifying round. Lose that, as the Huns did this year, then straight into the Europe League group stage.

Donegal Hibby

10-04-2025, 09:17 AM

Hearts euro wins for coefficient are marginal. If we end up 3rd then qualifying for the champions league would probably be a once a once in a lifetime event.

I really just can’t bring myself to want them to win even if it did benefit us , watching the game tonight I will be hoping Bilbao batter them .

SHODAN

10-04-2025, 09:30 AM

I remember last time when they were in the final against Frankfurt I was on the fence about whether to support them or not. Maybe it would be good if a Scottish team won one of the big cups. Might be nice. Maybe I'll watch as a neutral.

Then I walked through the neighbouring village and saw the locals had got out not their Saltires, but their Red Hand flags. **** 'em.

Thatdayinmay16

10-04-2025, 09:37 AM

Not sure if it has been covered or mentioned, but I'm sure the hibs observer have a piece out confirming we wouldn't get Champions League football if Rangers win the Europa League.

bringbackbenny

10-04-2025, 09:49 AM

Not sure if it has been covered or mentioned, but I'm sure the hibs observer have a piece out confirming we wouldn't get Champions League football if Rangers win the Europa League.

Correct - our Champions League campaign will have to wait until 2026/27 👍🏻

Tambo

10-04-2025, 10:09 AM

Thatdayinmay16

10-04-2025, 10:12 AM

I can't handle this needing Celtic to win the cup and now cheering on the Huns to win the Europa league for a chance at champions league football 😁

If the unlucky did happen and they won it, what round would 3rd place go to and what would happen to original spot for 3rd and Celtic win the cup? Would it go to 4th place I would imagine?

We can't get champions league football unless we finish 2nd.

Alternatively to gain Europa Conference League group stage football we just need to finish 3rd and hope Celtic win the SC.

Wilson

10-04-2025, 10:15 AM

I really just can’t bring myself to want them to win even if it did benefit us , watching the game tonight I will be hoping Bilbao batter them .

For me. You are in the right. The only thing that benefits hibs long term is our own progress. Winning our own games. We might get a short term boost if hearts win a certain game. Ultimately though. Hearts winning any game is only good for Hearts. So **** that. **** them.

Tambo

10-04-2025, 10:19 AM

We can't get champions league football unless we finish 2nd.

Alternatively to gain Europa Conference League group stage football we just need to finish 3rd and hope Celtic win the SC.

Have just seen the post a couple up about the observer saying we wouldn't get a spot even if they did win 👍

flash

10-04-2025, 10:19 AM

For me. You are in the right. The only thing that benefits hibs long term is our own progress. Winning our own games. We might get a short term boost if hearts win a certain game. Ultimately though. Hearts winning any game is only good for Hearts. So **** that. **** them.

Hertz beating Aberdeen after the split would be good for us surely?

Thatdayinmay16

10-04-2025, 10:52 AM

Have just seen the post a couple up about the observer saying we wouldn't get a spot even if they did win 👍

Mathematically still able to get 2nd if we win the remainder of our games and Rangers lose all there's, but we'd probably rather see Rangers beat the sheep this weekend followed by 3 points for us, meaning we'd have a 4 point gap.

Jones28

10-04-2025, 01:33 PM

Any game that directly impacts us I want it go our way, I can even hold my nose and say I want Hearts/Celtic/Rangers to beat whoever.

If it has no impact on us then I want them HUMPED. Finals, Europe, friendlies, the ****ing lot. Rangers v Frankfurt? Give me a Stein and a Frankfurter and 'mon the Germans.

McD

10-04-2025, 03:34 PM

Hertz beating Aberdeen after the split would be good for us surely?

Would prefer Motherwell to beat Aberdeen after the split :wink:

AmericanKev

10-04-2025, 03:51 PM

Domestically it typically helps Hibs if they win. Will certainly be wanting a Rangers win on Saturday.

Game is tonight though mind

Wilson

10-04-2025, 03:52 PM

Would prefer Motherwell to beat Aberdeen after the split :wink:

Correct. I'm surprised how many people want hearts to make the top six and then achieve wins when they get there. Hopefully they don't take confidence from these wins into the cup. We have seen ourselves what a bit of form and confidence can achieve.

I prefer them to lose every game. It's better that way.

DIXIHIBS

10-04-2025, 03:57 PM

Correct

they almost won it in 2022 and i was actually cheering them on as I knew some people who were there and it wasn't a game that affects hibs. Domestically that's a bit different but this was Europe

If it doesn't help Hibs, I never want want the Huns to win...anything...unless v hertz!!

Donegal Hibby

10-04-2025, 03:58 PM

Game is tonight though mind

Which I hope they get well and truly pumped in .

AmericanKev

10-04-2025, 04:02 PM

Which I hope they get well and truly pumped in .

No. Someone said we can get CL spot or qualifer if they win it, so we root for that.

BoomtownHibees

10-04-2025, 04:36 PM

No. Someone said we can get CL spot or qualifer if they win it, so we root for that.

Maybe worth reading all the posts as it has been confirmed we won’t get Champs League, unless we finish 2nd in the league

HoboHarry

10-04-2025, 04:36 PM

The day I want anything other than Sevco getting thrashed is the day my wife will have me committed because I've fallen off my trolley.

AmericanKev

10-04-2025, 04:37 PM

Maybe worth reading all the posts as it has been confirmed we won’t get Champs League, unless we finish 2nd in the league

Misinformation. Urghh

danhibees1875

10-04-2025, 04:38 PM

Game is tonight though mind

I meant their Aberdeen game.

Didn't realise europe was tonight, although apparently it wouldn't matter anyway.

At this stage I'd not actively want them to win anyway.

Donegal Hibby

10-04-2025, 04:39 PM

No. Someone said we can get CL spot or qualifer if they win it, so we root for that.

Even though we could possibly benefit for me the price is too high in seeing that lot lift a European Trophy and whatever financial rewards that brings.

After they’ve lost to St Mirren , Motherwell and Hibs at Ibrox I’m hoping that Bilbao will be to much for them and we see a few Spanish goals rattling in tonight and the hun hordes walking away again .:greengrin

erin go bragh

10-04-2025, 05:56 PM

Not sure if it has been covered or mentioned, but I'm sure the hibs observer have a piece out confirming we wouldn't get Champions League football if Rangers win the Europa League.

Bit of it here. Mon Athletico 😁
While winning the Europa League would send Rangers straight into the Champions League league phase, their spot from finishing second in the Scottish Premiership would not pass to the third-placed team in Scotland.

UEFA's new rules state that if the Europa League winners have already qualified for the Champions League through their domestic league position, the vacant spot is allocated to the club with the highest individual coefficient among all teams in the Champions League qualifying rounds.

But finishing third in the Premiership still puts Hibs in the land of opportunity.

They will know that finishing third will guarantee, at least, a place in the Europa League second qualifying round. However, if Premiership champions-elect Celtic win the Scottish Cup, the Europa League play-off