Simon Murray

[Pagan Hibernia]

23 goals last season, 19 so far this season...

Should we have given him more time back in the day?

[Daniel's FV]

23 goals last season, 19 so far this season...

Should we have given him more time back in the day?

Definitely should've game him atleast another season!

[Since452]

He'd have been a good signing this season

[Scottie]

Deserved a call up for the national team with those stats in front of some of the huddies we’ve recently capped but not a fashionable choice I’d imagine couldn’t have done any worse.

[Shrekko]

He'd have been a good signing this season

Would be a perfect fit in this team.

Old news I suppose but no matter how well we’ve done I wish we’d got him.

[Hibernian Verse]

Would be a perfect fit in this team.

Old news I suppose but no matter how well we’ve done I wish we’d got him.

Was thinking that today on the way back.

Fair play to him for choosing his boyhood club though, he enjoyed his goal against Utd recently.

Hope he enjoys the Championship again too.


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[Nicho87]

Oli shaw was the best young striker in Europe at that time to be fair

[Radge70]

Deserved a call up for the national team with those stats in front of some of the huddies we’ve recently capped but not a fashionable choice I’d imagine couldn’t have done any worse.

It's weird how players can be unfashionable for no apparent reason. He's a model pro and hasn't stopped developing and scoring goals since he left us. Really rated him back then and would love having him right now.

[Cabbage-Patch]

If Dundee go down (I think that's unlikely) He won't stay with them and we should surely be having another crack at trying to sign him.

[Donegal Hibby]

Deserved a call up for the national team with those stats in front of some of the huddies we’ve recently capped but not a fashionable choice I’d imagine couldn’t have done any worse.

I was really surprised that Clarke called up Wilson , surely Murray would have been a better option.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I was really surprised that Clarke called up Wilson , surely Murray would have been a better option.

Think they capped him to block him for playing for Ireland. Doubt he’ll be in the next squad.

[Onceinawhile]

Think they capped him to block him for playing for Ireland. Doubt he’ll be in the next squad.

Capped him in the hope he'd stop texting 14 year old girls i heard.

[PHeffernan]

I was really surprised that Clarke called up Wilson , surely Murray would have been a better option.

Murray at 33 is the past and Wilson at 18 is the future.

There was also talk that Wilson could play for Northern Ireland so Clarke decided to tie him to Scotland by playing him. Job done.
The chances are obviously that we won't turn out to be an international player but Clarke has covered the bases should Wilson kick on.

[ChicoM1875]

Can't remember why we got shot of him so quickly

[HarpOnHibee]

Man works his socks off in every game. Chases absolutely everything down from start to finish. Was surprised when we let him go.

[Donegal Hibby]

Murray at 33 is the past and Wilson at 18 is the future.

There was also talk that Wilson could play for Northern Ireland so Clarke decided to tie him to Scotland by playing him. Job done.
The chances are obviously that we won't turn out to be an international player but Clarke has covered the bases should Wilson kick on.

You say Murray is the past and Wilson the future . What about the present, was the games that Wilson was called up for not important where you pick your best available players or inform players like Murray? .

[Northernhibee]

Murray at 33 is the past and Wilson at 18 is the future.

There was also talk that Wilson could play for Northern Ireland so Clarke decided to tie him to Scotland by playing him. Job done.
The chances are obviously that we won't turn out to be an international player but Clarke has covered the bases should Wilson kick on.

Murray has had another season of banging in the goals, he’s the present.

[The Harp Awakes]

Murray at 33 is the past and Wilson at 18 is the future.

There was also talk that Wilson could play for Northern Ireland so Clarke decided to tie him to Scotland by playing him. Job done.
The chances are obviously that we won't turn out to be an international player but Clarke has covered the bases should Wilson kick on.

Is Wilson the future? He may be a prospect, but he's done virtually nothing in the game so far which justifies a place in the Scotland team.

Murray has scored 19 goals at a time when Scotland forwards canny buy a goal. Maybe not a long term solution, but I'd be a 100 times more confident of Murray coming on via Greece and making a contribution than Wilson.

[PHeffernan]

Murray has had another season of banging in the goals, he’s the present.

According to a lot of folk on here McLean and Hanley should never play for Scotland again because they are past it at 33, yet folk on here want a player the same age to be given their first cap.

I like Simon Murray, his goal in the derby at Easter Road is one of my favourites ever and I think the last two seasons have been the best of his career. I even think he would have been better in that Greece game than the guy Hirst from Ipswich but the Scotland manager isn't going to pick Simon to start his Scotland career at 33.

[Cooshed Kid]

He's a natural striker with a lot of experience. Imagine him and Bowie in the same Hibs' squad.

Next season we'll be without the guile of Gayle and Myko, who doesn't seem to have a striker's natural instincts or talents, will have returned to Swansea. It would be useful to have SM around. Unfortunately, he'll still be at Dundee but you never know how things will work out or who else may come our way. I'm optimistic our recruitment is improving significantly AND we've got the best manager in Scotland even though he still has much to learn.

[DH1875]

Did he not knock us back to sign for Dundee?

[JimBHibees]

Murray at 33 is the past and Wilson at 18 is the future.

There was also talk that Wilson could play for Northern Ireland so Clarke decided to tie him to Scotland by playing him. Job done.
The chances are obviously that we won't turn out to be an international player but Clarke has covered the bases should Wilson kick on.

Wilson isn’t good enough to be called the future Nisbet should have come in for him last week

[Cooshed Kid]

Did he not knock us back to sign for Dundee?

Yes he did. We're not speculating in this thread that he may actually rejoin us now, just showing respect for a striker we appreciate. He will be at Dundee for the rest of his Premiership career, most likely, unless they are relegated, which I don't anticipate.

[Billy Whizz]

Did he not knock us back to sign for Dundee?

It was for family reasons, you can’t blame him

[Stokesy's on fire]

Deserves a call up for sure especially when duds like Nisbet are getting a call up

[EdinMike]

Not to beat a dead horse, cause I would quite frankly poke it in this case. We talked about this pre-last season and we all agreed he should have been callled up… Alas he plays for Dundee, even then his stats are miles better than Shankland ?!

[PatHead]

Man works his socks off in every game. Chases absolutely everything down from start to finish. Was surprised when we let him go.

We replaced him with McLaren and Kamberi which at the time was an upgrade.

[CapitalGreen]

Deserves a call up for sure especially when duds like Nisbet are getting a call up

“Duds like Nisbet”

Their respective league goalscoring records this season:

Nisbet a goal every 156 minutes.
Murray a goal every 193 minutes.

[Musselbound]

According to a lot of folk on here McLean and Hanley should never play for Scotland again because they are past it at 33, yet folk on here want a player the same age to be given their first cap.

I like Simon Murray, his goal in the derby at Easter Road is one of my favourites ever and I think the last two seasons have been the best of his career. I even think he would have been better in that Greece game than the guy Hirst from Ipswich but the Scotland manager isn't going to pick Simon to start his Scotland career at 33.

I agree with that. There needs to be some sense of looking to the future with new players who come in. Albeit Murray seems to have got better with age. He would've got a brief runout against Greece at best.

[easty]

It was for family reasons, you can’t blame him

Wasn't the chat that he wanted a 3 year deal tae?

[JimBHibees]

Deserves a call up for sure especially when duds like Nisbet are getting a call up

Clearly not a dud

[easty]

“Duds like Nisbet”

Their respective league goalscoring records this season:

Nisbet a goal every 156 minutes.
Murray a goal every 193 minutes.

:agree:

Nisbet has only started 19 games this season and he's got 12 goals. What a dud...:confused:

[Shrekko]

According to a lot of folk on here McLean and Hanley should never play for Scotland again because they are past it at 33, yet folk on here want a player the same age to be given their first cap.



It is exactly the same people that are apparently saying Mclean and Hanley are too old, that are wanting Murray in the squad?

Because if not... why use it as an argument?

It's almost unfathomable that Murray hasn't had a sniff the past couple of years when banging in 20 goals. The boy from Ipswich looked absolutely terrible yet he gets drafted in and capped twice in very important games!

[Thatdayinmay16]

It is exactly the same people that are apparently saying Mclean and Hanley are too old, that are wanting Murray in the squad?

Because if not... why use it as an argument?

It's almost unfathomable that Murray hasn't had a sniff the past couple of years when banging in 20 goals. The boy from Ipswich looked absolutely terrible yet he gets drafted in and capped twice in very important games!

Should guys playing for the worst teams in the league really be getting call ups? That Jon McCracken was called up for Scotland earlier in the year and I've still no idea why, he's crap.

Bar Lennon Miller, I don't think anyone outside of Scotland's top 6 should be anywhere near our national side unless they are an exceptional talent.

[PHeffernan]

“Duds like Nisbet”

Their respective league goalscoring records this season:

Nisbet a goal every 156 minutes.
Murray a goal every 193 minutes.

:not worth

Classic debunkment.
Love your work.

[PHeffernan]

It is exactly the same people that are apparently saying Mclean and Hanley are too old, that are wanting Murray in the squad?

Because if not... why use it as an argument?

It's almost unfathomable that Murray hasn't had a sniff the past couple of years when banging in 20 goals. The boy from Ipswich looked absolutely terrible yet he gets drafted in and capped twice in very important games!

I like Murray and would have had him in the squad on form and disruption ability but we don't pick the squad.
Like you I thought the Ipswich guy made absolutely no impression but as i'm not an EPL fanboy I haven't seen him play this season so can't say if he deserved his place in the squad.

[tonyrougier123]

If Dundee get relegated I’d be all over Murray coming in. Old school strong forward much better than many that’s passed through Easter road over the years. Absolute nuisance up front.

[Hibs4185]

If Dundee get relegated I’d be all over Murray coming in. Old school strong forward much better than many that’s passed through Easter road over the years. Absolute nuisance up front.

Def wouldn’t be the worst option given his work rate and sheer nuisance factor

[ancient hibee]

I like Murray and would have had him in the squad on form and disruption ability but we don't pick the squad.
Like you I thought the Ipswich guy made absolutely no impression but as i'm not an EPL fanboy I haven't seen him play this season so can't say if he deserved his place in the squad.
Classic case of being capped by us in case his career develops. Same with Wilson.

[Northernhibee]

If Dundee get relegated I’d be all over Murray coming in. Old school strong forward much better than many that’s passed through Easter road over the years. Absolute nuisance up front.

I think he’ll he seeing his career out with them, unfortunately.

[He's here!]

:agree:

Nisbet has only started 19 games this season and he's got 12 goals. What a dud...:confused:

He's been pretty ineffectual for the majority of those, only starting to come good in the last few weeks. There's no arguing with his overall goals return pretty much everywhere he's been (bar Millwall) so for that alone he's a handy player to have, but Murray's the easier player to warm to. A player who gives it his absolute all from start to finish, has clearly improved his game through sheer hard work, and also boasts and excellent scoring record.

That Edinburgh derby winner he scored was a thing of beauty (what became of Brandon Barker incidentally? I liked him a lot during his spell with us):

https://www.facebook.com/spflofficial/videos/on-this-day-simon-murray-v-heart-of-midlothian/328479188413211/

[CapitalGreen]

He's been pretty ineffectual for the majority of those, only starting to come good in the last few weeks. There's no arguing with his overall goals return pretty much everywhere he's been (bar Millwall) so for that alone he's a handy player to have, but Murray's the easier player to warm to. A player who gives it his absolute all from start to finish, has clearly improved his game through sheer hard work, and also boasts and excellent scoring record.

That Edinburgh derby winner he scored was a thing of beauty (what became of Brandon Barker incidentally? I liked him a lot during his spell with us):

https://www.facebook.com/spflofficial/videos/on-this-day-simon-murray-v-heart-of-midlothian/328479188413211/

In the era of disciplined tactical pressing, perhaps running around like a headless chicken up front isn’t the most effective approach to employ and why Murray has found himself in another relegation battle while Nisbet is helping take a club into Europe once again.

[Wilson]

In the era of disciplined tactical pressing, perhaps running around like a headless chicken up front isn’t the most effective approach to employ and why Murray has found himself in another relegation battle while Nisbet is helping take a club into Europe once again.

No. That's not it.

Dundee were decent until they lost McCowan and then Lyle Cameron had his head turned. Their drop off isn't Murray's doing.

Murray pulling up trees is just about keeping them respectable.

[superfurryhibby]

In the era of disciplined tactical pressing, perhaps running around like a headless chicken up front isn’t the most effective approach to employ and why Murray has found himself in another relegation battle while Nisbet is helping take a club into Europe once again.

Murray is a bit better than a heidless chicken tbf. He's improved with age and experience and has had another good season. The fact that he plays in a side that's struggling makes that all the more creditable.

I'd still take Nisbet over him though, it it had to be a choice, wouldn't mind the two of them.

[He's here!]

In the era of disciplined tactical pressing, perhaps running around like a headless chicken up front isn’t the most effective approach to employ and why Murray has found himself in another relegation battle while Nisbet is helping take a club into Europe once again.

You're doing him a disservice with claims like that. Murray's a clever player who gets himself into great positions and you can see his all-round game has improved since he left us. He's arguably the reason Dundee are still in with a good shout of avoiding the play-offs.

[AmericanKev]

Did he not knock us back to sign for Dundee?
This

[Billy Bunter 07]

Simon Murray is living the dream playing fantastically. Wish him all the best.

[Ribs1875]

He's having a good spell in his career. He wasn't good enough at the time playing for us. He had to drop down a level to rebuild himself back up. Seen it many times over the years. He's found his level at Dundee, he grew up supporting them. Best of luck to him.

[PHeffernan]

Classic case of being capped by us in case his career develops. Same with Wilson.

Exactly.
The small population of our country means we can't afford to miss out on qualifying players.

I remember folk on here moaning about when Scotland brought in our current best player, McTominay, under the qualifying criteria.
Wonder what nonsense they folk are speaking now?

[flash]

In the era of disciplined tactical pressing, perhaps running around like a headless chicken up front isn’t the most effective approach to employ and why Murray has found himself in another relegation battle while Nisbet is helping take a club into Europe once again.

Well it's an opinion.

[Hibiza]

“Duds like Nisbet”

Their respective league goalscoring records this season:

Nisbet a goal every 156 minutes.
Murray a goal every 193 minutes.
Nisbet usni just a Dud : a disinterested Dyd

[Hibiza]

A few spelling glitches there soz.

[Hibspur]

Did he not knock us back to sign for Dundee?

I don't think we ever went as far as making him an offer, but I might be wrong.

I always like him as a player. I did wonder if he might regret leaving Queen's Park for Ross County but it turns out not. Dundee will probably struggle to hold on to him if they go down. Even at 33 he's got plenty offer in the top flight. Fit as a fiddle by the looks of him.

[cubehindthegoal]

Did he not knock us back to sign for Dundee?

I thought it was more a case of he wanted Dundee full stop, nothing to do with knocking anyone back, us or any others. He wanted to be at Dundee, for multiple reasons, and that’s fair enough.

[Prof. Shaggy]

Classic case of being capped by us in case his career develops. Same with Wilson.

Just a pity they didn't think that about Martin Boyle.

[Pagan Hibernia]

He's been pretty ineffectual for the majority of those, only starting to come good in the last few weeks. There's no arguing with his overall goals return pretty much everywhere he's been (bar Millwall) so for that alone he's a handy player to have, but Murray's the easier player to warm to. A player who gives it his absolute all from start to finish, has clearly improved his game through sheer hard work, and also boasts and excellent scoring record.

That Edinburgh derby winner he scored was a thing of beauty (what became of Brandon Barker incidentally? I liked him a lot during his spell with us):

https://www.facebook.com/spflofficial/videos/on-this-day-simon-murray-v-heart-of-midlothian/328479188413211/

Currently plays for Avro FC in the Northern Premier League in England.

Shame. Still only 28

[basehibby]

Can't remember why we got shot of him so quickly

I think there was a bit of horse trading going on - Stokes and Murray both headed for the exit with McLaren and Kamberi coming in - presumably Lennon wanted to freshen things up and we could not afford them all on the books and/or guarantee game time. I remember being surprised but we could not complain with the way the season panned out.

[basehibby]

You say Murray is the past and Wilson the future . What about the present, was the games that Wilson was called up for not important where you pick your best available players or inform players like Murray? .

I'd agree with this - we needed GOALS against Greece and none of the front players we put on the pitch looked like getting any. You could certainly argue that Murray had earned the chance with his form over the last two seasons.

[EGL2000]

This

His boyhood club so don't really blame him.

[EGL2000]

Exactly.
The small population of our country means we can't afford to miss out on qualifying players.

I remember folk on here moaning about when Scotland brought in our current best player, McTominay, under the qualifying criteria.
Wonder what nonsense they folk are speaking now?

Was always really gutted we couldn't get Harvey Barnes to play for Scotland, think he would really improve us and add a dimension that the squad really lacks.

[easty]

Was always really gutted we couldn't get Harvey Barnes to play for Scotland, think he would really improve us and add a dimension that the squad really lacks.

I’d rather have Simon Murray than Harvey Barnes, a guy who quite clearly couldn’t give a flying **** about playing for Scotland. Who’ll maybe “do us a favour” if he accepts his dream of playing for England is over.