Kevin Nisbet

[Daniel's FV]

Aberdeen trying to sign nisbet permanent, what's happening about it?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Aberdeen trying to sign nisbet permanent, what's happening about it?

I think you’ve stumbled across the wrong forum perhaps?

[Billy Whizz]

I think you’ve stumbled across the wrong forum perhaps?

Think we have a sell on, so is of interest to Hibs

[WeAreHibs]

I think you’ve stumbled across the wrong forum perhaps?

Don't think he has. Anything wrong with asking our thoughts on an ex player with a sell on clause?

[BILLYHIBS]

Think we have a sell on, so is of interest to Hibs

And Dunfermline Athletic

[Jones28]

Aberdeen trying to sign nisbet permanent, what's happening about it?

I’d be wondering who thought he was a good signing and if shelling a decent fee out for him is a sensible option.

[3pm]

I'd take him every day of the week however that won't be happening.

More keen to see what Aberdeen put together in terms of fee and salary. They couldn't offer a 28 year-old Jamie McGrath 4 years. Nisbet 5 months younger.

[Wilson]

I'd take him every day of the week however that won't be happening.

More keen to see what Aberdeen put together in terms of fee and salary. They couldn't offer a 28 year-old Jamie McGrath 4 years. Nisbet 5 months younger.

Kevin won't need 4 years. He'll score a handful of goals and request a transfer in six months - tops.

[HibbyAndy]

Aberdeen trying to sign nisbet permanent, what's happening about it?

Hey Daniel good to see you posting pal :aok: I thought Nisbet looked quite poor when he first arrived at Aberdeen , Looked to appear overweight and never really contributed much in the way of goals BUT then he scored and found a bit form and is a decent player for them , Decent enough but i'd be looking for better in the summer to be honest

[Donegal Hibby]

I'd take him every day of the week however that won't be happening.

More keen to see what Aberdeen put together in terms of fee and salary. They couldn't offer a 28 year-old Jamie McGrath 4 years. Nisbet 5 months younger.

I think a few on here would take him back but your right in it won’t be happening as he doesn’t really fit in with being the right type of character which Gray will be all to aware off .

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Don't think he has. Anything wrong with asking our thoughts on an ex player with a sell on clause?

my bad apologies to Daniel.

[Donegal Hibby]

If we can get back a third of what we paid Hibs for him?…

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/6716010/aberdeen-in-position-to-sign-kevin-nisbet-loan/

[Tyler Durden]

Think we have a sell on, so is of interest to Hibs

Presumably would only be relevant if Millwall were to make a profit, which obviously won’t occur here.

[Tyler Durden]

If we can get back a third of what we paid Hibs for him?…

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/6716010/aberdeen-in-position-to-sign-kevin-nisbet-loan/

Seems unlikely that anyone would want to pay much more than £500k for him tbh. Maybe £800k max

[Smartie]

Seems unlikely that anyone would want to pay much more than £500k for him tbh. Maybe £800k max

I’d be amazed if anyone went higher than half that and I’d be surprised if Millwall were difficult to deal with.

A decent player when he can be bothered, no doubt, but he’s not getting any younger and has now got an extensive track record of going long periods without making significant contributions.

[PHeffernan]

Aberdeen trying to sign nisbet permanent, what's happening about it?

Daniel, I'm not aware of anyone at Aberdeen stating that they are trying to sign Nisbet on a permanent.
However, I am aware of journalists asking that question but those are two very different things.
Thelin sidestepped that question very easily.

Anyone that wants Nisbet this summer has a lot of negotiating to do.

Nisbet is going into the last year of his Millwall contract and will want to pick up all the money that entitles him to.
I have no idea how much his salary is but lets say it is 12k a week, so in the final year of his contract he will be due circa 600k
Lets also guess that Millwall paid 1.5 million to Hibs for his services.

Now lets pretend that Aberdeen are actually interested in signing him this summer for 3 seasons and are willing to pay him 7k a week

Before Nisbet will be interested Millwall would have to be willing to give him a lump sum to cover what he would lose in wages for the following year by going to Aberdeen. Lets say Millwall agree to pay it. So right off the bat Millwall are 250k down.

With that agreed there is a negotiation between the clubs and the most Aberdeen are willing to pay for Nisbet is 700k
Lets say Millwall agree to that where does that leave everyone?

Kev is well chuffed. He is getting all the money he is due from his Millwall contract and is contracted for a further 2 years at Aberdeen on a decent contract.
Essentially he is on 12k a week for a season and then 7k a week for the following two season. Happy days.

Aberdeen are chuffed. They have signed an experienced guaranteed goalscorer, who knows the league, for the next 3 seasons.
It's cost them 700k and a million quid in wages over 3 seasons so circa 600k a season all in for Nisbet.

The big losers are Millwall, 800k down on the transfer fee they paid for one poor season from Nisbet and a further 250k down that they had to give him to agree to GTF. So they have lost circa 1 million quid and that doesn't even consider how much of his wages they had to pick up when he was at Aberdeen.
The only upside is they have saved 350k in wages for the following season given Aberdeen have picked that up.
The downside is they are paying someone else a fortune to do the job they signed Nisbet to do.

That is a best case smooth transfer scenario. Arguing about millions of pounds is never going to be that easy in the real world.

One things for sure, Hibs will not be getting any sell on money.

[Hibee Mac]

Haven't almost all his goals for Aberdeen come against teams in the lower reaches of the league or even lower league teams in the cups?

I don't think he's as good as some think, he's also a bad apple to have in the team with his attitude.

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[Winston Ingram]

Think we have a sell on, so is of interest to Hibs

Sell on’s usually kick in if there is a profit involved. No danger are Millwall making a profit on selling him.

[Donegal Hibby]

Seems unlikely that anyone would want to pay much more than £500k for him tbh. Maybe £800k max

With the age he is , past injuries I think you’re right . I had a look at the Millwall forum and a few not impressed with his attitude . I think on his day he’s a very good player but there does seem to be some issues with him .

[Winston Ingram]

Haven't almost all his goals for Aberdeen come against teams in the lower reaches of the league or even lower league teams in the cups?

I don't think he's as good as some think, he's also a bad apple to have in the team with his attitude.

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He’s got 7 league goals in 24 matches. He also has 3 cup goals, v Spartans, Dunfermline and Queens Park.

[He's here!]

Did a decent enough job for us and had a tough time when his dad passed away but I don't see him as a 'must have' by any means. Capable of a classy finish but they're few and far between.

[Smartie]

With the age he is , past injuries I think you’re right . I had a look at the Millwall forum and a few not impressed with his attitude . I think on his day he’s a very good player but there does seem to be some issues with him .

The state he came back in after last summer was a disgrace. They’ve every right to be pissed off with him.

[Winston Ingram]

I’d be amazed if anyone went higher than half that and I’d be surprised if Millwall were difficult to deal with.

A decent player when he can be bothered, no doubt, but he’s not getting any younger and has now got an extensive track record of going long periods without making significant contributions.

No chance Aberdeen are buying him from the return he’s offered this season. Odds on he’ll be on loan at the likes of Dundee Utd/St Mirren/Motherwell or in League 1 in England next season.

[BILLYHIBS]

The state he came back in after last summer was a disgrace. They’ve every right to be pissed off with him.

Think he got hooked at half-time at ER playing for the sheep looked like a Shankland mini me had one half chance and made a horlicks of it

Has improved in recent weeks in fairness

[Cocaine&Caviar]

what's happening about it?

What?

[Keith_M]

Given games like Saturday, where turning our dominance into actual goals would have secured 3 points, we could definitely do with improving our options up front.

I'm not sure Nisbet is the right option, though, given his overall career so far.

[WeAreHibs]

What?

The OP question made more sense than yours and think the replies have covered it nicely!

[easty]

101 appearances (90 starts) with a return of 39 goals and 12 assists while at Hibs. He was a very good player when he was here, and we made money on him. I've nae doubt if we brought him back in the summer we'd get a similar return and probably make money on him again.

[Smartie]

101 appearances (90 starts) with a return of 39 goals and 12 assists while at Hibs. He was a very good player when he was here, and we made money on him. I've nae doubt if we brought him back in the summer we'd get a similar return and probably make money on him again.

I thought we got him at a good time and I suspect his good spells with us may well end up being the best that anyone ever gets from him.

Even allowing for the negatives with us, he was an excellent signing over the piece. Plenty of goals, good performances, a couple of respectable team finishes with him in it and a decent financial return.

Not sure we should go back rather than leave it there though, for a multitude of reasons.

[easty]

I thought we got him at a good time and I suspect his good spells with us may well end up being the best that anyone ever gets from him.

Even allowing for the negatives with us, he was an excellent signing over the piece. Plenty of goals, good performances, a couple of respectable team finishes with him in it and a decent financial return.

Not sure we should go back rather than leave it there though, for a multitude of reasons.

He's got 10 goals and 4 assists in 28 games (18 starts) at Aberdeen. Just as good a return as he had at us previously.

Judge him on his record, and it's a no brainer we should be after him.

Judge him on his ability, and it's a no brainer we should be after him.

SDG has worked with him long enough that he'll know whether Nisbet would be a good addition or not, Myko hasn't worked out and will be gone, Gayle getting on a bit and probably won't be here next season, and we'll likely sell Vente. Nisbet is clearly going to be available, I'd argue we need a quality player up top, so let's see if we make a move.

[Northernhibee]

The state that he reportedly came back in the summer in should be a massive red flag.

[JohnM1875]

The state that he reportedly came back in the summer in should be a massive red flag.

But he's in good shape now, worked his way back into the national setup and actually has a good goal involvement record this season.

I've never been a massive fan of the guy, but I’d take him back. Think Gray would have him banging the goals in.

[Smartie]

He's got 10 goals and 4 assists in 28 games (18 starts) at Aberdeen. Just as good a return as he had at us previously.

Judge him on his record, and it's a no brainer we should be after him.

Judge him on his ability, and it's a no brainer we should be after him.

SDG has worked with him long enough that he'll know whether Nisbet would be a good addition or not, Myko hasn't worked out and will be gone, Gayle getting on a bit and probably won't be here next season, and we'll likely sell Vente. Nisbet is clearly going to be available, I'd argue we need a quality player up top, so let's see if we make a move.

If it was to take on some of the wages for the last year of his contract at Millwall, I might be tempted. Nisbet playing for his next contract after Millwall could be hungry.

I'm not sure any sort of length of contract or big spend on him is a great idea, given there is no chance of sell on value and there are still question marks over his attitude and application of which there has even been evidence within the past 6 months.

[Spudster]

Nisbet is going into the last year of his Millwall contract and will want to pick up all the money that entitles him to.
I have no idea how much his salary is but lets say it is 12k a week, so in the final year of his contract he will be due circa 600k

I got shot down in the past on here for mentioning that players need the remainder of their contract paid off when moving.

[easty]

I got shot down in the past on here for mentioning that players need the remainder of their contract paid off when moving.

Probably shot down because its not true, to be fair.

A player can refuse to move and see out the remainder of their contract, they can refuse to move unless they get paid out the remainder of their contract, or they can just move and be released from their contract. It's not set in stone that they get a X year deal and they'll be paid every penny regardless of how long they stay.

[PHeffernan]

I got shot down in the past on here for mentioning that players need the remainder of their contract paid off when moving.

It all depends on a players ability, options and circumstances.
Generally if a player is getting paid a far bigger salary than any other club is willing to pay him then his club will find it almost impossible to move him on unless you pay at least part of the difference between his wage at your club and what another club is willing to pay him.
Towards the end of a players contract it becomes easier and cheaper to move them on because average players don't want to be out of contract at the same time as thousands of other released average players so in the January window of their last contracted year they often move or even better for them, sign a pre contract.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Probably shot down because its not true, to be fair.

A player can refuse to move and see out the remainder of their contract, they can refuse to move unless they get paid out the remainder of their contract, or they can just move and be released from their contract. It's not set in stone that they get a X year deal and they'll be paid every penny regardless of how long they stay.

:agree:

Some players are moving for a huge pay increase, they’re not necessarily getting the rest of their contract paid up, some players are desperate to move closer to home or just to get out of a club where it hasn’t worked and will happily forego their remaining contract to get the move and some players will refuse to move unless they’re given every penny they signed up for. There’ll be a load of other scenarios in there as well.

Players are entitled to the money they sign up for. There’s a multitude of scenarios that can see that being written off though and it’s not in any way uncommon.

[JimBHibees]

But he's in good shape now, worked his way back into the national setup and actually has a good goal involvement record this season.

I've never been a massive fan of the guy, but I’d take him back. Think Gray would have him banging the goals in.

He was very good in his last spell with us

[Winston Ingram]

But he's in good shape now, worked his way back into the national setup and actually has a good goal involvement record this season.

I've never been a massive fan of the guy, but I’d take him back. Think Gray would have him banging the goals in.

Is he? He had a good 10 mins v Dundee Utd a couple of weeks back. Scored against Queens Park a week ago Sat but prior to that he was honkin.

He’s only back in the Scotland squad due to the fact the other options are rotten. If Bowie had played a full 90 he’d of been in instead.

[Spudster]

A player can refuse to move and see out the remainder of their contract, they can refuse to move unless they get paid out the remainder of their contract, or they can just move and be released from their contract. It's not set in stone that they get a X year deal and they'll be paid every penny regardless of how long they stay.
Kinda obvious. Most on here didn't seem to accept that

[Donegal Hibby]

But he's in good shape now, worked his way back into the national setup and actually has a good goal involvement record this season.

I've never been a massive fan of the guy, but I’d take him back. Think Gray would have him banging the goals in.

Some I’m sure would take him back but the big question is would Gray ? I think after the last time when he wasn’t that long in the door and seemed to be angling for a move away which is a bit unsettling . I’d wager Gray wouldn’t be interested in resigning him .

[easty]

Is he? He had a good 10 mins v Dundee Utd a couple of weeks back. Scored against Queens Park a week ago Sat but prior to that he was honkin.

He’s only back in the Scotland squad due to the fact the other options are rotten. If Bowie had played a full 90 he’d of been in instead.

He’s got a goal involvement every couple of games this season. Bit harsh to say his 2 goals v Dun Utd was a good 10 mins (his goals were 15 mins apart) rather than say he had a good game.

If Bowie was in the squad it’d be ahead of Wilson, not Nisbet.

[JohnM1875]

Is he? He had a good 10 mins v Dundee Utd a couple of weeks back. Scored against Queens Park a week ago Sat but prior to that he was honkin.

He’s only back in the Scotland squad due to the fact the other options are rotten. If Bowie had played a full 90 he’d of been in instead.

Bowie needs to start scoring goals before he's any chance of making a Scotland team. Cracking player though so I'm sure he will.

Nisbet was getting slaughtered from folk after his start at Aberdeen. He's sitting on 14 goal involvements in 29 games. Not bad for someone everyone agreed was out of shape and so far off it.

Coming into his peak years. If he moves to a team back up here I hope its us.

[Centre Hawf]

:agree:

Some players are moving for a huge pay increase, they’re not necessarily getting the rest of their contract paid up, some players are desperate to move closer to home or just to get out of a club where it hasn’t worked and will happily forego their remaining contract to get the move and some players will refuse to move unless they’re given every penny they signed up for. There’ll be a load of other scenarios in there as well.

Players are entitled to the money they sign up for. There’s a multitude of scenarios that can see that being written off though and it’s not in any way uncommon.

Agree. It's all relative to the players situation at the end of the day.

Say we're due Jair £100k for the last season of his contract but he agrees to bugger off for half of that because someone's going to pay him £75k for the season, then he's up £25k and we're off the hook for £50k for the year, everyone sorta wins. I suspect something on a smaller scale like that has happened when we released McKirdy and Amos at the deadline, both had moves lined up and we paid them a golden handshake amount to clear off and they've left the situation with a chunk of extra money as a result and we've maybe saved something that isn't massive but not insignificant change either.

If a player has no offers or the money on offer elsewhere dramatically falls short of what they're getting now then they're not going to exactly just say "do you know what Hibs, I'm going to be the nicer guy here and wave away my right to £100k this season and go take a huge drop in weekly wages, or risk in free agency and see what happens".

[eastmainsmsh]

Sign him lol

[Northernhibee]

Some I’m sure would take him back but the big question is would Gray ? I think after the last time when he wasn’t that long in the door and seemed to be angling for a move away which is a bit unsettling . I’d wager Gray wouldn’t be interested in resigning him .

Yep. For me there are just too many question marks over his attitude. Irrelevant over whether or not he's in good shape now, getting himself so far out of shape when he had his big opportunity down south is one, the transfer request after six months is another.

I'd rather we put in effort to find the new Christian Doidge - wasn't technically as good a player but work rate, effort, and fitness were top drawer before his serious injury and he was a great striker for us in a number of ways.

[Winston Ingram]

He’s got a goal involvement every couple of games this season. Bit harsh to say his 2 goals v Dun Utd was a good 10 mins (his goals were 15 mins apart) rather than say he had a good game.

If Bowie was in the squad it’d be ahead of Wilson, not Nisbet.

He’s scored 7 goals and 4 assists in 24 league games, and 3 cup goals against lower league sides. They are poor stats and nowhere near good enough to get a Scotland call up.

[Winston Ingram]

Bowie needs to start scoring goals before he's any chance of making a Scotland team. Cracking player though so I'm sure he will.

Nisbet was getting slaughtered from folk after his start at Aberdeen. He's sitting on 14 goal involvements in 29 games. Not bad for someone everyone agreed was out of shape and so far off it.

Coming into his peak years. If he moves to a team back up here I hope its us.

It’s far from good. Do you honestly think Aberdeen in hindsight would’ve brought Nisbet in knowing he’d wrack up 7 goals in 24 appearances?

As for Bowie, he’s only started 3 games.

[easty]

It’s far from good. Do you honestly think Aberdeen in hindsight would’ve brought Nisbet in knowing he’d wrack up 7 goals in 24 appearances?

As for Bowie, he’s only started 3 games.

I think if Aberdeen were offered a striker on loan and told he’d only get 7 goals and 4 assists in 24 games they’d still have took him yeah.

[Thatdayinmay16]

It’s far from good. Do you honestly think Aberdeen in hindsight would’ve brought Nisbet in knowing he’d wrack up 7 goals in 24 appearances?

As for Bowie, he’s only started 3 games.

If it's "far from good"

What would be our excuse with Myko?

[basehibby]

It’s far from good. Do you honestly think Aberdeen in hindsight would’ve brought Nisbet in knowing he’d wrack up 7 goals in 24 appearances?

As for Bowie, he’s only started 3 games.

I think you have to consider that Nisbet has often been brought on as a sub by Aberdeen - particularly at the start of his spell with them as he strove for match fitness. That will probably bump his goal stats up to a far more respectable 1 every 180 mins or so. All the same, I think he's only getting in the Scotland squad right now because of a dearth of striker options as he's still not lasting a full 90 mins I don't think.

As for a possible Hibs move - a fit and raring to go Nisbet is a formidable striker as we have all witnessed. I would leave it to Gray to decide if he thinks he can get the best out of him - he's worked with him closely before afterall.

[HFC93]

I'd be looking to bring him back to Easter Road in the summer. I'm probably in the minority though.

[Gmack7]

I don't think any scottish club is paying £500k or more, I think it'll be another season loan somewhere

[easty]

If it's "far from good"

What would be our excuse with Myko?

Not just Myko. Gayle too.

Nisbet - goal every 156 mins this season (every 188 mins for league games only)

Myko - goal every 250 mins this season (every 270 mins for league games only)

Gayle - goal every 199 mins this season (every 192 mins for league games only)

[easty]

I don't think any scottish club is paying £500k or more, I think it'll be another season loan somewhere

It'll almost certainly be a loan. Millwall don't want him, so he'll be out on loan somewhere.

[Donegal Hibby]

Yep. For me there are just too many question marks over his attitude. Irrelevant over whether or not he's in good shape now, getting himself so far out of shape when he had his big opportunity down south is one, the transfer request after six months is another.

I'd rather we put in effort to find the new Christian Doidge - wasn't technically as good a player but work rate, effort, and fitness were top drawer before his serious injury and he was a great striker for us in a number of ways.

I think Gray will be well aware of his attitude and that’s the reason we won’t see Nisbet back in a Hibs shirt . It’s been spoken about a few times by Gray and MM about signing the right type of players with the right character. I don’t see Nisbet in that bracket..

If we had Doidge before his injuries now I think we’d be better off points wise . I think he’d have thrived off some of the crosses N.Cadden delivers into the box , his general play was good too , wonder will a target man be on Gray’s list this summer? 🤔

[Hibiza]

He was very good in his last spell with us

When he felt like it.

[easty]

When he felt like it.

If the argument is "he only tries when it suits him" then next season it'll definitely suit him. He'll be in the final year of his Millwall deal and he'll need to be on top-form to try to get a decent contract elsewhere.

[Jones28]

If it's "far from good"

What would be our excuse with Myko?

Myko also comes under the "far from good" category IMO, and I'd be disappointed if we aren't able to sign better in the summer.

As for Gayle, fewer goals but you can see what he brings to the team in terms of his experience.

[superfurryhibby]

Would see Nisbet back at £500,000 as a good bit of business for Hibs. With Gayle, Myko and Youan likely to leave, Boyle potentially as well. We have the need for a new striker or two.

Aged 28, Nisbet should be coming to the peak of his career. He's a clever footballer and we know he can score goals in our league. Gray will know him very well and be in a good position to judge if Nisbet would be a good addition to Hibs.

[Winston Ingram]

If it's "far from good"

What would be our excuse with Myko?

I think your looking for the Myko thread mate👍

[Winston Ingram]

I think you have to consider that Nisbet has often been brought on as a sub by Aberdeen - particularly at the start of his spell with them as he strove for match fitness. That will probably bump his goal stats up to a far more respectable 1 every 180 mins or so. All the same, I think he's only getting in the Scotland squad right now because of a dearth of striker options as he's still not lasting a full 90 mins I don't think.

As for a possible Hibs move - a fit and raring to go Nisbet is a formidable striker as we have all witnessed. I would leave it to Gray to decide if he thinks he can get the best out of him - he's worked with him closely before afterall.

The reason he was on the bench was because he was playing *****.

You’d be hard pressed to find any Aberdeen fan backing the idea of splashing the cash to sign him permanently, even after his minor upturn in form.

[Winston Ingram]

When he felt like it.

This. Decent 1st 4 months. Absolutely ****in appalling for the next 15 months prior to his injury. Magnificent in his last 4 months.

[allezsauzee]

Nisbet is obviously good enough at this level. I think Vente is an upgrade though and feel we pressed the panic button a wee bit there. He's shown his quality in the Eredivisie, so if it was a choice between Nisbet and keeping Vente , I'd go for the latter.

[O'Rourke3]

I'd chuck in the idea that Nisbet and Bowie could be a front pair for Scotland. It may suit him to come back ... .

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[JohnM1875]

Nisbet is obviously good enough at this level. I think Vente is an upgrade though and feel we pressed the panic button a wee bit there. He's shown his quality in the Eredivisie, so if it was a choice between Nisbet and keeping Vente , I'd go for the latter.

Don't think either want to be here so suspect neither will be next season.

[The Modfather]

It’s far from good. Do you honestly think Aberdeen in hindsight would’ve brought Nisbet in knowing he’d wrack up 7 goals in 24 appearances?

As for Bowie, he’s only started 3 games.

He’s got almost the exact same record in the league as Boyle this season, who has 2 more goals from 4 more games. 9 goals and 4 assists from Boyle in 28 games to Nisbets 7 goals and 4 assists in 24 games. A goal or assist every 148 minutes for Boyle. A goal or assist every 119 minutes for Nisbet.

Is Boyle’s league record this season also far from good?

I’d take him back if it didn’t involve breaking the bank.

[Winston Ingram]

He’s got almost the exact same record in the league as Boyle this season, who has 2 more goals from 4 more games. 9 goals and 4 assists from Boyle in 28 games to Nisbets 7 goals and 4 assists in 24 games. A goal or assist every 148 minutes for Boyle. A goal or assist every 119 minutes for Nisbet.

Is Boyle’s league record this season also far from good?

I’d take him back if it didn’t involve breaking the bank.

Yer comparing apples with Oranges. Boyle had a poor start to the season and was playing on the wing. He was then left out the starting 11 for 6 weeks.

Bucked his ideas up, got back in the team and scored 7 goals in the last 3 months. He’s showing a proper run of form rather than a good 10 mins v DU and a goal v Queens Park.