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Dashing Bob S
16-03-2025, 08:58 PM
I think Dundee beating United has shown us again, that there is no substantial gap between that teams desperate to avoid relegation and those trying to bag the position 3-5 Euro slots. I expect a lot of upsets between now and the split, and our home games against St Johnstone and Dundee could be as problematic as the visit to Ibrox.

Hibs currently 3rd on 44 pts.

Rivals:

A'deen (4th on 43pts) :

M'well (H) Ross County (A) Rangers (H)

United (5th on 41 pts) :

Ross County (A) Hearts (A) St Johnstone (H)

Los Yambolinos (6th on 39 pts) :

Celtic (A) United (H) Motherwell (A)

Motherwell (7th on 38 pts) :

A'Deen (H), Killie (A) Los Yambolinos (H)

I could be wrong, but I think United are most likely to stutter, and Motherwell most likely (hope upon hope) to finish strong. Hearts have three tough fixtures, and while they are (enviably) decent at grinding out results against lower sides, I'm not sure Critchley is an inspiring enough leader to get them over the line in big games.

Aberdeen are the most interesting. Their home game against Motherwell is huge for both clubs. If they were to lose it would be devastating, and I think they may struggle against a battling Ross County.

Anyway, I'm not going to even try to predict how many points each club will pick up from those fixtures. I'm concentrating on us against St Johnstone.

hibsbollah
16-03-2025, 09:01 PM
I think our aesthetically challenged neighbours will finish 7th. Theyre just not that good. And a tricky final three games.

Bostonhibby
16-03-2025, 09:12 PM
I think our aesthetically challenged neighbours will finish 7th. Theyre just not that good. And a tricky final three games.Surely their strong identity will be enough to see them home on all fronts?

Unique, atmospheric, cauldron etc etc....

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Unseen work
16-03-2025, 09:16 PM
Honestly it’s so tight I have no idea

We need to beat st Johnstone and Dundee though, especially with being at home

With his tight it is in the league, unless one team gets some massive results post split I think it will come down the last day for all positions

patlowe
16-03-2025, 11:36 PM
If you look at the last 10 games (there or thereabouts a full run of fixtures) Dundee Utd are bottom of the league. I think it's between us, Aberdeen and Hearts (who are 3rd and above us last 10).

The next two home games are so important because things will become very intense post-split and points will be at a premium. Win them and 3rd is ours to throw away IMO.

PHeffernan
17-03-2025, 02:34 AM
This is the third thread about the same subject

The other 2 are:
Positions after the split (https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?370108-Positions-after-the-split) Last 4 before split - how many points (https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?369977-Last-4-before-split-how-many-points)

PHeffernan
17-03-2025, 02:41 AM
I think our aesthetically challenged neighbours will finish 7th. Theyre just not that good. And a tricky final three games.

I think you will be wrong. Reckon there is a good chance they will pickup 6 points from the 3 games the same as Hibs which would put them in 5th place at the split and 5 points behind us with 5 to play including a derby at their place. A draw in that match would suit us if it happens.

Speedy
17-03-2025, 05:29 AM
I think Dundee beating United has shown us again, that there is no substantial gap between that teams desperate to avoid relegation and those trying to bag the position 3-5 Euro slots. I expect a lot of upsets between now and the split, and our home games against St Johnstone and Dundee could be as problematic as the visit to Ibrox.

Hibs currently 3rd on 44 pts.

Rivals:

A'deen (4th on 43pts) :

M'well (H) Ross County (A) Rangers (H)

United (5th on 41 pts) :

Ross County (A) Hearts (A) St Johnstone (H)

Los Yambolinos (6th on 39 pts) :

Celtic (A) United (H) Motherwell (A)

Motherwell (7th on 38 pts) :

A'Deen (H), Killie (A) Los Yambolinos (H)

I could be wrong, but I think United are most likely to stutter, and Motherwell most likely (hope upon hope) to finish strong. Hearts have three tough fixtures, and while they are (enviably) decent at grinding out results against lower sides, I'm not sure Critchley is an inspiring enough leader to get them over the line in big games.

Aberdeen are the most interesting. Their home game against Motherwell is huge for both clubs. If they were to lose it would be devastating, and I think they may struggle against a battling Ross County.

Anyway, I'm not going to even try to predict how many points each club will pick up from those fixtures. I'm concentrating on us against St Johnstone.

Hibs - 4
Aberdeen - 3
Dundee United - 2
Hearts - 4
Motherwell - 3

1van Sprou7e
17-03-2025, 05:42 AM
I think our aesthetically challenged neighbours will finish 7th. Theyre just not that good. And a tricky final three games.

I'm not so sure. Honestly I think they'll end the season top 4, hopefully behind us

They're not that good but to be honest the other teams are all pretty terrible

Steve20
17-03-2025, 05:56 AM
6 points is an absolute must to show we have what it takes for 3rd. No dropping points in those two home games.

CapitalGreen
17-03-2025, 06:11 AM
I'm not so sure. Honestly I think they'll end the season top 4, hopefully behind us

They're not that good but to be honest the other teams are all pretty terrible

Assuming they make top six - at least 5, possibly even 6 of Hearts remaining 8 games will be against teams in the top 4, they haven’t beaten a top 4 side in over a year.

GRA
17-03-2025, 07:02 AM
Sevco are rotten at home, but any points from Ibrox will be a bonus, considering we have lost our last 10(?) in a row there.

The St Johnstone & Dundee games are must win though, which we should do given our recent home form. Given the fixtures of the other teams if we can go into the split still in 3rd with a 3/4 point cushion we'll be in a good place.

I'd be surprised if the rest of the top six isn't Dundee Utd, Aberdeen & Hearts

PHeffernan
19-03-2025, 08:14 PM
Assuming they make top six - at least 5, possibly even 6 of Hearts remaining 8 games will be against teams in the top 4, they haven’t beaten a top 4 side in over a year.

Certainly a stat that shows Hearts have done little against the better teams this season.
Less good for the tail end of last season where they finished 3rd where no wins against Celgers plus 1 says little.
Indeed 3rd placed Hibs will find it similarly difficult to beat a top 4 club in what remains of this season.

MacGruber
19-03-2025, 08:18 PM
I think our aesthetically challenged neighbours will finish 7th. Theyre just not that good. And a tricky final three games.

Unfortunately I think they will, they are well ahead in form from the others apart from us. They will likely finish 4th behind us although that is with us winning the 2 pre split home games. If we don't win those 2 games all bets are off and the places are anybodys. It's in our hands though which is all you can ask

Nicho87
19-03-2025, 09:35 PM
Business end of the season now

6 points in the last two home games is an absolute must

Baring in mind the other 6 remaining fixtures left, 3 are against the old firm with two away from home.

Must win the easiest games left and that the final two home games before the split.

I’m confident gray will be making the players aware not to blow the opportunity

AmericanKev
21-03-2025, 10:25 AM
There will be a 4th derby. Don't really fear it to be honest.

Jones28
21-03-2025, 10:33 AM
There will be a 4th derby. Don't really fear it to be honest.

No guarentees of that, they have Celtic, Dundee UTD and Motherwell.

Celtic will beat them, then United at home which is by no means a foregone conclusion and Motherwell away in what could be a crunch tie.

Motherwell will be a massive game for both sides. They have Aberdeen and Killie away then Hearts at home.

In theory both sides could lose both their games before playing each other, but Motherwell have a better chance of winning at least one of their matches before they play each other.

AmericanKev
21-03-2025, 10:38 AM
No guarentees of that, they have Celtic, Dundee UTD and Aberdeen.

Celtic will beat them, then United at home which is by no means a foregone conclusion and Aberdeen away where they haven't won for 9 years.

Motherwell will be a massive game for both sides. They have Aberdeen and Killie away then Hearts at home.

In theory both sides could lose both their games before playing each other, but Motherwell have a better chance of winning at least one of their matches before they play each other.

yeah now i look at it your right but I do think they will probably beat United at home. A 4th derby is something we want though is it not?

CapitalGreen
21-03-2025, 10:41 AM
No guarentees of that, they have Celtic, Dundee UTD and Aberdeen.

Celtic will beat them, then United at home which is by no means a foregone conclusion and Aberdeen away where they haven't won for 9 years.

Motherwell will be a massive game for both sides. They have Aberdeen and Killie away then Hearts at home.

In theory both sides could lose both their games before playing each other, but Motherwell have a better chance of winning at least one of their matches before they play each other.

They’ve known aren’t playing Aberdeen in the league at Pittodrie. Their game against Aberdeen is the cup Semi at Hampden.

Col2
21-03-2025, 10:52 AM
yeah now i look at it your right but I do think they will probably beat United at home. A 4th derby is something we want though is it not?

Given it would be away and could give them a chance to close the gap / pip us to 3rd or 4th I could live without it. The fun we would have with that lot playing bottom six after all the noise and bull**** around the “analytics and world leading recruitment model”🤣

AmericanKev
21-03-2025, 11:15 AM
Given it would be away and could give them a chance to close the gap / pip us to 3rd or 4th I could live without it. The fun we would have with that lot playing bottom six after all the noise and bull**** around the “analytics and world leading recruitment model”🤣

They ain't pipping us. WE'll beat them again

Jones28
21-03-2025, 11:44 AM
They’ve known aren’t playing Aberdeen in the league at Pittodrie. Their game against Aberdeen is the cup Semi at Hampden.

No of course, edited.

Eyrie
21-03-2025, 07:02 PM
yeah now i look at it your right but I do think they will probably beat United at home. A 4th derby is something we want though is it not?

Three points will be very useful in securing third place ahead of Aberdeen and Dundee United.

AmericanKev
22-03-2025, 03:11 PM
Three points will be very useful in securing third place ahead of Aberdeen and Dundee United.

Exactly.

Springbank
23-03-2025, 07:17 AM
The next round of fixtures could be massive for us

We win at home
Celtic beat Hearts
That would open an 8 point gap

That's the focus, for me

Pagan Hibernia
23-03-2025, 07:30 AM
The next round of fixtures could be massive for us

We win at home
Celtic beat Hearts
That would open an 8 point gap

That's the focus, for me

Yep, and hope Aberdeen and United keep shedding points faster than I'm losing my hair.

SON OF PADDY
25-03-2025, 09:18 PM
Anyone, know when the fixtures are out?

flash
25-03-2025, 09:19 PM
Anyone, know when the fixtures are out?

We don't know who is in what 6 yet.

SHODAN
25-03-2025, 09:42 PM
Anyone, know when the fixtures are out?

Think we're waiting for the new kit to be announced first.

AmericanKev
25-03-2025, 10:24 PM
We don't know who is in what 6 yet.

I think if at any point it becomes mathematical they can release the fixture earlier. Can't think of a season it's ever happened but there must be lol. Had this split set up since 2000/01 FFS. Long time

WestStandWillie
26-03-2025, 10:53 AM
I think Dundee beating United has shown us again, that there is no substantial gap between that teams desperate to avoid relegation and those trying to bag the position 3-5 Euro slots. I expect a lot of upsets between now and the split, and our home games against St Johnstone and Dundee could be as problematic as the visit to Ibrox.

Hibs currently 3rd on 44 pts.

Rivals:

A'deen (4th on 43pts) :

M'well (H) Ross County (A) Rangers (H)

United (5th on 41 pts) :

Ross County (A) Hearts (A) St Johnstone (H)

Los Yambolinos (6th on 39 pts) :

Celtic (A) United (H) Motherwell (A)

Motherwell (7th on 38 pts) :

A'Deen (H), Killie (A) Los Yambolinos (H)

I could be wrong, but I think United are most likely to stutter, and Motherwell most likely (hope upon hope) to finish strong. Hearts have three tough fixtures, and while they are (enviably) decent at grinding out results against lower sides, I'm not sure Critchley is an inspiring enough leader to get them over the line in big games.

Aberdeen are the most interesting. Their home game against Motherwell is huge for both clubs. If they were to lose it would be devastating, and I think they may struggle against a battling Ross County.

Anyway, I'm not going to even try to predict how many points each club will pick up from those fixtures. I'm concentrating on us against St Johnstone.

Top 6 will be

Celtic
Rangers
Us
Aberdeen
Hearts
Motherwell

From our perspective, 6 points must be collected against St Johnstone and Dundee. No excuses. Do that and possibly get something against the huns and we're laughing.

It's encouraging that the other teams battling it out for top 6 play a direct opponent at least once. We just have the relegation battlers and the manky mob.

Jones28
26-03-2025, 10:56 AM
Think we're waiting for the new kit to be announced first.

I thought we were waiting for the ST seat release? :confused:

Billy Whizz
26-03-2025, 11:40 AM
Anyone, know when the fixtures are out?

As soon as it’s done I’m presuming, although they won’t be wanting Celtic to win the league at Ibrox

O'Rourke3
26-03-2025, 12:18 PM
As soon as it’s done I’m presuming, although they won’t be wanting Celtic to win the league at IbroxSafest date is the usual midweek game in the final week, except they will never allow an evening kick off. Der Hun put.the cat into the pidgeons by winning that last game.

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Hibs Go Bragh
26-03-2025, 06:55 PM
As soon as it’s done I’m presuming, although they won’t be wanting Celtic to win the league at Ibrox

Was there not a case a couple of years ago when they sent Celtic to ER to win the league and we ended up beating them? Their next game was then against the Huns. Can’t remember the year but I’m sure I’m not making this up!

They play each other in cup finals so they should be arranging the decider for old firm weekend.

AmericanKev
26-03-2025, 07:17 PM
As usual the split looks like it's going down to the last game. Would be nice if it was wrapped up a week early

Itsnoteasy
27-03-2025, 03:01 PM
As usual the split looks like it's going down to the last game. Would be nice if it was wrapped up a week early

And why would that be?

AmericanKev
27-03-2025, 03:12 PM
And why would that be?

So they can announce the fixtures a week early. More time to plan

Tambo
29-03-2025, 08:04 PM
Aberdeen look to be hitting form late on in the season, would expect them to be favourites vs county but it is an away fixture so let's hope county gets something tomorrow and next week.

We'll need a better performance on the ball next week than we did in the cup game vs Celtic, has been difficult for us away to both rangers and Celtic, last time out at Ibrox very unlucky not to come away with something, hoping for a brave performance.

Will need 3 points vs Dundee, Aberdeen will have home advantage vs rangers, will just have to see what rangers turn up.

Would take things as they stand going into the split, anything else would be a bonus, goal difference could be key.

Exciting times to end the season!

Pescarese
30-03-2025, 09:57 AM
As usual the split looks like it's going down to the last game. Would be nice if it was wrapped up a week early

That could only happen if the side currently in 6th secured a top place. I'm very happy to wait.

FilipinoHibs
30-03-2025, 11:34 AM
Hope Hearts don't make the top 6 as post split we will be away to them, Celtic and Aberdeen, home to Rangers and Dundee United. Best st Mirren get the last place we would be home to them. All this hinges on the SPL computer algorithm not giving 3 games home away against one of the other top 6.

AmericanKev
30-03-2025, 11:41 AM
Hope Hearts don't make the top 6 as post split we will be away to them, Celtic and Aberdeen, home to Rangers and Dundee United. Best st Mirren get the last place we would be home to them. All this hinges on the SPL computer algorithm not giving 3 games home away against one of the other top 6.

Would prefer a 4th derby at the moment cause of previous results

CentreForward
30-03-2025, 11:42 AM
Amazingly still can’t rule out Ross Co for top 6. If they win this afternoon they would be only 1 point behind Hearts. Certainly a chance that we may well lose 3rd place next weekend if you look at the fixtures so we would be relying on Rangers to win up at Aberdeen the week after for us to hopefully get 3rd place back.

The only real positive I can see from Aberdeen’s improved form is that it makes it more likely that they might win the semi final!

Billy Whizz
30-03-2025, 12:28 PM
Would prefer a 4th derby at the moment cause of previous results

I wouldn’t, would prefer a home game if it’s possible

Just looking at this again
Presume our 3rd away game would be Hearts/St Mirren, Ross County or Motherwell, depending on who gets 6th

Tambo
30-03-2025, 03:16 PM
3rds in our hands as things stand, it could come down to the post split fixtures and making sure we get results vs Aberdeen Dundee United and whoever else makes it.

PHeffernan
30-03-2025, 03:30 PM
That's Dundee Utd sewn up top 6

Todays result completes a clean sweep of no shocks in the games involving the top 6 teams this weekend.
DU avoided the only real banana skin.

Next weekends top 6 banana skin game is also at Dingwall v Aberdeen
Sundays big top 6 game is at Tincastle and if DU take anything then St Mirren and Motherwell could be back in the top 6 shout if they win their own games.

JohnM1875
30-03-2025, 03:35 PM
That's Dundee Utd sewn up top 6

Crazy how often the promoted team has finished in the top six right after coming up. Us, Hearts, both Dundee teams and Kilmarnock recently. Think only Ross County and St Mirren had stinkers after promotion.

I like having both Dundee clubs in the top flight.

Billy Whizz
30-03-2025, 03:36 PM
That's Dundee Utd sewn up top 6

Think you can write off County for top 6 now
6th spot is between Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell

Mcbizz1998
30-03-2025, 03:38 PM
Top 6 will be

Celtic
Rangers
Us
Aberdeen
Hearts
Motherwell

From our perspective, 6 points must be collected against St Johnstone and Dundee. No excuses. Do that and possibly get something against the huns and we're laughing.

It's encouraging that the other teams battling it out for top 6 play a direct opponent at least once. We just have the relegation battlers and the manky mob.

What about United?

I think (and hope) it will be -

Celtic
Rangers
Hibs
Aberdeen
United
St Mirren

Liberal Hibby
30-03-2025, 08:59 PM
St Mirren's two final pre split fixtures are away v Dundee and home v Ross County. I think they've got the easiest task to secure a top six place and should get 6 points from these games.

Hearts and Motherwell have a more difficult run in (including playing each other).

PHeffernan
30-03-2025, 11:32 PM
Crazy how often the promoted team has finished in the top six right after coming up. Us, Hearts, both Dundee teams and Kilmarnock recently. Think only Ross County and St Mirren had stinkers after promotion.

I like having both Dundee clubs in the top flight.

Not quite right, Killie struggled in their first season after promotion due to being stuck with the same players for contractual reasons.
It was the following season they finished top 6.

JohnM1875
30-03-2025, 11:39 PM
Not quite right, Killie struggled in their first season after promotion due to being stuck with the same players for contractual reasons.
It was the following season they finished top 6.

Ah, fair enough 👍

JimBHibees
31-03-2025, 06:11 AM
St Mirren's two final pre split fixtures are away v Dundee and home v Ross County. I think they've got the easiest task to secure a top six place and should get 6 points from these games.

Hearts and Motherwell have a more difficult run in (including playing each other).

Dundee away will be tough

EGL2000
31-03-2025, 07:45 AM
Think you can write off County for top 6 now
6th spot is between Hearts, St Mirren and Motherwell

The Motherwell Vs hearts game right before the split could be a cracker.

EGL2000
31-03-2025, 07:46 AM
The Motherwell Vs hearts game right before the split could be a cracker.

If a remember correctly we had the same fixture last season to get top 6 and bottled it.

NadeAteMyLunch!
31-03-2025, 08:17 AM
The Motherwell Vs hearts game right before the split could be a cracker.

I think Hearts will beat Dundee Utd this weekend and Motherwell will draw at Killie which would leave Hearts 3 points and about 20 goals better off. Hope I’m wrong of course

Hibby70
31-03-2025, 08:22 AM
We want Hearts to beat Dundee Utd surely?

Chorley Hibee
31-03-2025, 08:28 AM
We want Hearts to beat Dundee Utd surely?

Can see your thinking, but I'd prefer a draw and damage to them both.

SHODAN
31-03-2025, 08:59 AM
If a remember correctly we had the same fixture last season to get top 6 and bottled it.

Last minute goal to lose top 6.

LEaston87
31-03-2025, 09:07 AM
If the table stays the same we would be due Rangers and Dundee Utd at home. Hearts Dons and Celtic away. If St Mirren pip Hearts to top 6 we would be due them at home but because we need to play 19 home and 19 away games we will have to play someone away for a third time, happily play St Mirren away than have to go to Tynecastle again. Let them lose out on a sell out and have to play against the bottom 6. If Hearts do fail to make top 6 they better not move our game against Rangers to Ibrox as we will sell that out and have a great chance to beat them

Trinity Hibee
31-03-2025, 09:16 AM
Great position to be in at this time of the season. Post split games are going to be huge between us, Aberdeen and DU. Might also depend who gets rangers/celtic after the league is over as they might have downed tools. Never know who will be playing home/away for certain so might get a surprise with the fixtures.

Dashing Bob S
31-03-2025, 09:18 AM
I loved the last few Edinburgh derbies and this fixture can't come around quick enough for me. But I feel that in these troubled times we all have to make sacrifices so, for the greater good I'm prepared to shelve this potential pre-split derby for a contest against either St Mirren or Motherwell.

SHODAN
31-03-2025, 09:52 AM
If the table stays the same we would be due Rangers and Dundee Utd at home. Hearts Dons and Celtic away. If St Mirren pip Hearts to top 6 we would be due them at home but because we need to play 19 home and 19 away games we will have to play someone away for a third time, happily play St Mirren away than have to go to Tynecastle again. Let them lose out on a sell out and have to play against the bottom 6. If Hearts do fail to make top 6 they better not move our game against Rangers to Ibrox as we will sell that out and have a great chance to beat them

Would rather have both the OF away and one of the other teams at home. Better chance for points and no Huns at ER; win-win.

Jones28
31-03-2025, 10:09 AM
Last minute goal to lose top 6.

When we missed out on the ecstasy of the top six.

1875M
31-03-2025, 01:00 PM
Game at Pittodrie will be massive after the split. They’ve hit a decent run of form. Also, would rather Hearts not finish top 6. A home game vs St Mirren / Well is much more advantageous for us, despite our run against them at the moment.

AmericanKev
31-03-2025, 03:09 PM
I loved the last few Edinburgh derbies and this fixture can't come around quick enough for me. But I feel that in these troubled times we all have to make sacrifices so, for the greater good I'm prepared to shelve this potential pre-split derby for a contest against either St Mirren or Motherwell.

If the derby was to be at ER I think everyone's view would be the opposite, just cause it's away some ppl on here would rather not play them. I say bring it on despite it being away and hope they make the top 6. Sure to be on tv if you don't want to go and give them money.

Brooster
31-03-2025, 03:52 PM
If the derby was to be at ER I think everyone's view would be the opposite, just cause it's away some ppl on here would rather not play them. I say bring it on despite it being away and hope they make the top 6. Sure to be on tv if you don't want to go and give them money.

You want them to qualify for top six? **** them, let them languish in the bottom six.

AmericanKev
31-03-2025, 04:41 PM
You want them to qualify for top six? **** them, let them languish in the bottom six.

Why fear them?

danhibees1875
31-03-2025, 04:44 PM
Why fear them?

Less fear, more just want them to do as bad as possible...

SickBoy32
31-03-2025, 04:52 PM
Why fear them?

Your mob will finish bottom 6 and we’ll all be laughing like **** 👍

AmericanKev
31-03-2025, 05:26 PM
Less fear, more just want them to do as bad as possible...

win win situation. Either they do bad and don't come up or they do and we win again.

Since90+2
31-03-2025, 06:09 PM
Why would any Hibs fans want Hear7s to make the top 6? That would mean them winning games between now and the split, I've never met a Hibs fans who wants Hear7s to win games.

Saying that we've picked up 7 points out of 9 against them and are unbeaten in 4 against them, so I'd be confident of that continuing.

AmericanKev
31-03-2025, 06:18 PM
Why would any Hibs fans want Hear7s to make the top 6? That would mean them winning games between now and the split, I've never met a Hibs fans who wants Hear7s to win games.

Saying that we've picked up 7 points out of 9 against them and are unbeaten in 4 against them, so I'd be confident of that continuing.

quite a few on here said that they want Hearts in the top 6 rather than saying they actually want them to win games. I know one comes with the other but it's slightly different.

Since90+2
31-03-2025, 06:22 PM
quite a few on here said that they want Hearts in the top 6 rather than saying they actually want them to win games. I know one comes with the other but it's slightly different.

Baffled as to why any Hibs fans would want them in the top 6. Want them to finish as low as possible, if they get top 6 they'd have a chance at Europe if they finish 5th.

Why would any Hibs fans actively want that?

Liberal Hibby
31-03-2025, 06:24 PM
Baffled as to why any Hibs fans would want them in the top 6. Want them to finish as low as possible, if they get top 6 they'd have a chance at Europe if they finish 5th.

Why would any Hibs fans actively want that?

Not to mention (what?) £300k per place.

danhibees1875
31-03-2025, 06:29 PM
win win situation. Either they do bad and don't come up or they do and we win again.

Well, not exactly- winning against them is far from a guarantee. Especially away.

6th just gets them more prize money, more gate money, and a shot at European qualification through the league.

AmericanKev
31-03-2025, 06:41 PM
Well, not exactly- winning against them is far from a guarantee. Especially away.

6th just gets them more prize money, more gate money, and a shot at European qualification through the league.

no way 6th would get Europe is there?

greenlex
31-03-2025, 06:59 PM
no way 6th would get Europe is there?
No. I think he means guaranteeing top six gets you a crack at qualifying for Europe.

PHeffernan
31-03-2025, 07:00 PM
You want them to qualify for top six? **** them, let them languish in the bottom six.

Hi Brooster, i'm gonna upset you again

I want Hearts to finish 5th, for this season only, for the sake of the Scottish UEFA coefficient.
Scotland are in real danger of losing a European place and the riches of European group stage football which we are hoping to benefit from next season.

The seasonal adjustment at the beginning of next season will see Scotland and all other countries lose the coefficient points earned 5 seasons ago.
This adjustment will see Scotland fall from 14th to 17th in the rankings. We will then have until the end of the season to get back into the top 15 or we will lose a European place which will see 4 Scottish clubs playing European football instead of the current 5 which reduces Hibs chances of playing European football.

To ensure we pick up the necessary coefficient points next season it is essential that the Scottish clubs most capable of winning points represent Scotland in Europe. That means Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts.











I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries :wink:

bingo70
31-03-2025, 07:02 PM
no way 6th would get Europe is there?

If Celtic win the cup and Rangers win the European completion they’re still left in then I think 6th would get a European place.

So no, is the short answer to your question 😃

cubehindthegoal
31-03-2025, 07:14 PM
You want them to qualify for top six? **** them, let them languish in the bottom six.

I would also fancy another opportunity to beat them in the top 6 tbh … they are pretty rank, when you know how to expose their weaknesses. And SDG has shown he does. But it’s not easy wanting them to exceed their current teams abilities, and do so.

But if they don’t get in top 6, well … that’ll be a laugh too, I get that, and can’t really want them to when it comes down to it really. So you’re right really, that’s the best laugh. But : win win either way lol 😂 💚

ps but if they do get in top six .. I want them to finish sixth. That’s what they will deserve. And they are our sh*t coloured topped rivals. That’s what counts imho. That’s what Hibs fans mostly would feel imho. We are football fans, of Hibs 💚

PatHead
31-03-2025, 07:17 PM
Hi Brooster, i'm gonna upset you again

I want Hearts to finish 5th, for this season only, for the sake of the Scottish UEFA coefficient.
Scotland are in real danger of losing a European place and the riches of European group stage football which we are hoping to benefit from next season.

The seasonal adjustment at the beginning of next season will see Scotland and all other countries lose the coefficient points earned 5 seasons ago.
This adjustment will see Scotland fall from 14th to 17th in the rankings. We will then have until the end of the season to get back into the top 15 or we will lose a European place which will see 4 Scottish clubs playing European football instead of the current 5 which reduces Hibs chances of playing European football.

To ensure we pick up the necessary coefficient points next season it is essential that the Scottish clubs most capable of winning points represent Scotland in Europe. That means Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts.











I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries :wink:
Eff off and go and boil your heid. 😁

flash
31-03-2025, 07:18 PM
Hi Brooster, i'm gonna upset you again

I want Hearts to finish 5th, for this season only, for the sake of the Scottish UEFA coefficient.
Scotland are in real danger of losing a European place and the riches of European group stage football which we are hoping to benefit from next season.

The seasonal adjustment at the beginning of next season will see Scotland and all other countries lose the coefficient points earned 5 seasons ago.
This adjustment will see Scotland fall from 14th to 17th in the rankings. We will then have until the end of the season to get back into the top 15 or we will lose a European place which will see 4 Scottish clubs playing European football instead of the current 5 which reduces Hibs chances of playing European football.

To ensure we pick up the necessary coefficient points next season it is essential that the Scottish clubs most capable of winning points represent Scotland in Europe. That means Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts.











I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries :wink:

That's just weird.

cubehindthegoal
31-03-2025, 07:23 PM
“I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries”

I mean … f f s … really?

Hibees1973
31-03-2025, 07:26 PM
If we are sitting in 3rd post split, what are the odds of the SPFL super computer giving us Celtic & Rangers as the first two games.

It would be just like them to do this in order to tighten the race for 3rd in the last few games.

PHeffernan
31-03-2025, 07:26 PM
Eff off and go and boil your heid. 😁

I take it that's a no :wink:

PHeffernan
31-03-2025, 07:28 PM
“I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries”

I mean … f f s … really?


Ah, you don't like the echo chamber being challenged
It will love your "sh*t coloured topped rival" line
It laps that stuff up

danhibees1875
31-03-2025, 07:32 PM
no way 6th would get Europe is there?

No, not 6th.

3rd, 4th - maybe/probably 5th.

cubehindthegoal
31-03-2025, 07:35 PM
:wink:

Wind up merchant perchance? Nothing to be proud of. But you clearly seem to be. Your comments above and on the Dylan Vente thread say all about you.

Do me a favour and don’t reply to me again please. I will ignore your posts similarly. I’m sure others will see them for what they are too, so I’m happy to bow out from your type of posts.

ps I see you have edited your reply to me, and have deleted your mocking smiley face away and insert text instead on your reply post. Says it all.

Billy Bunter 07
31-03-2025, 07:40 PM
**** the hertz, relegations play off please.

PHeffernan
31-03-2025, 07:50 PM
Wind up merchant perchance? Nothing to be proud of. But you clearly seem to be. Your comments above and on the Dylan Vente thread say all about you.

Do me a favour and don’t reply to me again please. I will ignore your posts similarly. I’m sure others will see them for what they are too, so I’m happy to bow out from your type of posts.

ps I see you have edited your reply to me, and have deleted your mocking smiley face away and insert text instead on your reply post. Says it all.

Not at all just an independent thinker

P.S. The winking smiley face was trying to diffuse your anger by not commenting verbally

Paul1642
31-03-2025, 07:56 PM
Hi Brooster, i'm gonna upset you again

I want Hearts to finish 5th, for this season only, for the sake of the Scottish UEFA coefficient.
Scotland are in real danger of losing a European place and the riches of European group stage football which we are hoping to benefit from next season.

The seasonal adjustment at the beginning of next season will see Scotland and all other countries lose the coefficient points earned 5 seasons ago.
This adjustment will see Scotland fall from 14th to 17th in the rankings. We will then have until the end of the season to get back into the top 15 or we will lose a European place which will see 4 Scottish clubs playing European football instead of the current 5 which reduces Hibs chances of playing European football.

To ensure we pick up the necessary coefficient points next season it is essential that the Scottish clubs most capable of winning points represent Scotland in Europe. That means Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts.











I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries :wink:

Absolutely mental.

erin go bragh
31-03-2025, 08:32 PM
Hi Brooster, i'm gonna upset you again

I want Hearts to finish 5th, for this season only, for the sake of the Scottish UEFA coefficient.
Scotland are in real danger of losing a European place and the riches of European group stage football which we are hoping to benefit from next season.

The seasonal adjustment at the beginning of next season will see Scotland and all other countries lose the coefficient points earned 5 seasons ago.
This adjustment will see Scotland fall from 14th to 17th in the rankings. We will then have until the end of the season to get back into the top 15 or we will lose a European place which will see 4 Scottish clubs playing European football instead of the current 5 which reduces Hibs chances of playing European football.

To ensure we pick up the necessary coefficient points next season it is essential that the Scottish clubs most capable of winning points represent Scotland in Europe. That means Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts.











I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries :wink:

Dundee Utd will
get 5th and they knuckle dragging cardigan wearing pink gimps will bottle it at Motherwell and St Mirren will take 6th.

AmericanKev
31-03-2025, 09:26 PM
No. I think he means guaranteeing top six gets you a crack at qualifying for Europe.

Ah sorry. Well in that case give them 6th and let's beat them

AmericanKev
31-03-2025, 09:27 PM
Hi Brooster, i'm gonna upset you again

I want Hearts to finish 5th, for this season only, for the sake of the Scottish UEFA coefficient.
Scotland are in real danger of losing a European place and the riches of European group stage football which we are hoping to benefit from next season.

The seasonal adjustment at the beginning of next season will see Scotland and all other countries lose the coefficient points earned 5 seasons ago.
This adjustment will see Scotland fall from 14th to 17th in the rankings. We will then have until the end of the season to get back into the top 15 or we will lose a European place which will see 4 Scottish clubs playing European football instead of the current 5 which reduces Hibs chances of playing European football.

To ensure we pick up the necessary coefficient points next season it is essential that the Scottish clubs most capable of winning points represent Scotland in Europe. That means Celtic, Rangers, Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts.











I can already hear your anguished partizan myopic cries :wink:

Why does it have to hearts in 5th? Someone else could do it

NadeAteMyLunch!
31-03-2025, 10:51 PM
Why fear them?

It’s not fear but seen the movie a million times. Trust this Hibs squad far more than other squads over the years but also trusted Lennons side in the season we were battling for second. We were playing some incredible stuff, Hearts scraped in to the top 6 but managed to then beat us, stopping us getting second(or even third). Needless to say they lost their other 4 top six games whilst we were unbeaten in our other 4. We were 12 unbeaten prior to that derby. Stopping us getting third would be their cup final and I wouldn’t trust them against Aberdeen or DU if it came to the point they had nothing to play for. Easiest route possible for us and that, on paper, would be St Mirren or Motherwell.

AmericanKev
01-04-2025, 05:44 PM
It’s not fear but seen the movie a million times. Trust this Hibs squad far more than other squads over the years but also trusted Lennons side in the season we were battling for second. We were playing some incredible stuff, Hearts scraped in to the top 6 but managed to then beat us, stopping us getting second(or even third). Needless to say they lost their other 4 top six games whilst we were unbeaten in our other 4. We were 12 unbeaten prior to that derby. Stopping us getting third would be their cup final and I wouldn’t trust them against Aberdeen or DU if it came to the point they had nothing to play for. Easiest route possible for us and that, on paper, would be St Mirren or Motherwell.

St Mirren are scoring for fun at the moment but

theonlywayisup
04-04-2025, 08:04 AM
Huge game at Tiny on Sunday in terms of top-six qualification, along with Euro qualification.

5th placed Dundee United travel to 6th placed Hearts, with a gap of five points between the teams.

A Dundee United win would go a long way to guaranteeing European football for them, with at least a six point lead going into the final six games of the season, assuming St. Mirren or Motherwell win their tricky away fixtures. It may also close the gap on Aberdeen and us, depending on ours and the Dons results.

A Hearts win would move them two points behind Dundee United with a slightly better goal difference. They wouldn't be guaranteed top-six qualification, but would be almost certain to if St. Mirren or Motherwell fail to win their away games on Saturday.

If either St. Mirren or Motherwell win on Saturday, it will drop Hearts down to possibly as low as 8th, meaning the pressure will be on them for their game against Dundee United. Hearts will have to win it to keep ahead of the chasing two.

A Hearts defeat on Sunday would make it extremely difficult for top-six qualification with a tricky away game against Motherwell the following week, who could be above them in the league.

Interesting times! :greengrin

Centre Hawf
04-04-2025, 08:08 AM
Huge game at Tiny on Sunday in terms of top-six qualification, along with Euro qualification.

5th placed Dundee United travel to 6th placed Hearts, with a gap of five points between the teams.

A Dundee United win would go a long way to guaranteeing European football for them, with at least a six point lead going into the final six games of the season, assuming St. Mirren or Motherwell win their tricky away fixtures. It may also close the gap on Aberdeen and us, depending on ours and the Dons results.

A Hearts win would move them two points behind Dundee United with a slightly better goal difference. They wouldn't be guaranteed top-six qualification, but would be almost certain to if St. Mirren or Motherwell fail to win their away games on Saturday.

If either St. Mirren or Motherwell win on Saturday, it will drop Hearts down to possibly as low as 8th, meaning the pressure will be on them for their game against Dundee United. Hearts will have to win it to keep ahead of the chasing two.

A Hearts defeat on Sunday would make it extremely difficult for top-six qualification with a tricky away game against Motherwell the following week, who could be above them in the league.

Interesting times! :greengrin

I choose that one please.

danhibees1875
04-04-2025, 08:14 AM
St Mirren and Motherwell to win, Hearts to draw. Ross county to beat Aberdeen, and the classic 3-0 to the Hibees at Ibrox.

It's all I ask for.

SteveHFC
04-04-2025, 08:15 AM
Don't want that lot anywhere near us as they would focus on the last 5 games with sole aim of stopping us finishing third, Motherwell or St Mirren away are a better option for me.

Garymcl
04-04-2025, 08:20 AM
If we get 3rd do we go straight into Europa league groups or is it qualifying rounds and does anyone know possible dates etc presume it will be Thursday fixtures ,not being over confident but need to apply for days off work and all that for possible jolly boys/girls euro trips cheers in advance :thumbsup:

danhibees1875
04-04-2025, 08:21 AM
Don't want that lot anywhere near us as they would focus on the last 5 games with sole aim of stopping us finishing third, Motherwell or St Mirren away are a better option for me.

In 2004(I think) - it was Hibs v Aberdeen for 3rd and they needed a 6-goal swing on the final day when they played Hearts. Pretty sure Hearts fielded their reserves that day... admittedly they done okay and it was only 2-0 and we pretty much agreed a 0-1 with Rangers that was enough to suit both parties.

danhibees1875
04-04-2025, 08:22 AM
If we get 3rd do we go straight into Europa league groups or is it qualifying rounds and does anyone know possible dates etc presume it will be Thursday fixtures ,not being over confident but need to apply for days off work and all that for possible jolly boys/girls euro trips cheers in advance :thumbsup:

A play-off for the Europa groups, losing would give us Conference groups (what Hearts had last year).

But only if Celtic win the cup will 3rd place get that.

AmericanKev
04-04-2025, 01:09 PM
In 2004(I think) - it was Hibs v Aberdeen for 3rd and they needed a 6-goal swing on the final day when they played Hearts. Pretty sure Hearts fielded their reserves that day... admittedly they done okay and it was only 2-0 and we pretty much agreed a 0-1 with Rangers that was enough to suit both parties.

2005 but yea the point still stands. I don't think hearts had any intention of shipping 5 goals deliberately ��. I do remember some of their supporters said that they should lol but that's just fans on message boards.

Hibernian Verse
04-04-2025, 02:02 PM
To be fair it was their normal first 11.

https://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/200505221.html

danhibees1875
04-04-2025, 02:29 PM
To be fair it was their normal first 11.

https://www.londonhearts.com/scores/games/200505221.html

I stand corrected - i always thought they played their reserves. Certainly one of the more bizarre games I've been to - can't believe it was 20 years ago.

Tambo
05-04-2025, 04:07 PM
Another 3 points in the bag before the split, just need to make sure we get the final 3 points now in what will probably be a tough match but one we should be looking for the win on form.

Could do with the Huns getting something from the Aberdeen game and a draw tomorrow for the hearts to sweat it out on the final game before the split.

GreenCastle
05-04-2025, 04:09 PM
Draw between Hearts and Dundee Utd then Motherwell to beat Hearts final game would be pretty funny as Hearts wouldn’t make top 6.

Paul1642
05-04-2025, 04:24 PM
Draw between Hearts and Dundee Utd then Motherwell to beat Hearts final game would be pretty funny as Hearts wouldn’t make top 6.

They would unless St Mirren won.

Motherwell would be 3 points behind them in your scenario but 19 goals to the worse.

A draw would be good tomorrow because we need United to fall out of the race for 3rd at some point but we also want hearts bottom 6 or at least having to fight for it last game.

Billy Whizz
05-04-2025, 04:27 PM
If Celtic beat St Johnstone tomorrow, they can win the league against Killie at home next Saturday

A Hearts win tomorrow would confirm their top 6 place
However if they lose/draw, they have to go Motherwell next week and would probably need to win
St Mirren can possibly still get top 6, if they beat Ross County next week

Nice to sit back and know we are in 3rd😀

danhibees1875
05-04-2025, 04:40 PM
They would unless St Mirren won.

Motherwell would be 3 points behind them in your scenario but 19 goals to the worse.

A draw would be good tomorrow because we need United to fall out of the race for 3rd at some point but we also want hearts bottom 6 or at least having to fight for it last game.

Motherwell are only 1 point behind Hearts currently.

Paul1642
05-04-2025, 04:42 PM
Motherwell are only 1 point behind Hearts currently.

So they are. Even better.

Jack Hackett
05-04-2025, 04:45 PM
St Mirren and Motherwell to win, Hearts to draw. Ross county to beat Aberdeen, and the classic 3-0 to the Hibees at Ibrox.

It's all I ask for.

Sooo close... apart from the results for St Mirren, Motherwell, and Ross County :greengrin

Keith_M
05-04-2025, 05:17 PM
Sooo close... apart from the results for St Mirren, Motherwell, and Ross County :greengrin




:greengrin

NAE NOOKIE
05-04-2025, 05:58 PM
If Hearts lose tomorrow St Mirren can still catch them, but even then I think it's a long shot, today's loss was a bad one for St Mirren and Motherwell's upturn in form seems to have been a temporary new manager bounce.

In the grand scheme of things a Hearts win against Dundee Utd wouldn't be a disaster for Hibs, they would still be 8 points behind us with 6 games to go and it would leave Utd 6 points behind us. Both have a pretty large minus goal difference to us as well, though obviously that will change unless it's a draw, which wouldn't be too bad either, leaving Hearts 7 behind and Utd 5 behind.

When it comes to next week I can't see Dundee Utd failing to win at home to a rank rotten St Johnstone and the odds are Hearts will win at Motherwell. The big imponderable is Aberdeen at home to the Sticky Buns .... with a massive Euro tie coming up and the league almost certainly gone by then ( lets face it, it already is ) I simply can't see them being stupid enough to field their strongest XI .... in fact it was a surprise they did today against us ... which sadly means Aberdeen may very well take something from the game, possibly even win it.

All of this makes our game with Dundee as big a game as it possibly could be ..... another 'must win' in a post Christmas series of 'must win' games ....... I can't help thinking that of all those must win games, this is the 'must winningest' as our American owners would say :greengrin

Keith_M
05-04-2025, 06:05 PM
I was just looking at Rangers recent home record and it made me realise today's result wasn't really anything special.

They've now lost four domestic games in a row at Ibrox: Queens Park, Motherwell, St Mirren and Hibs.


I'm glad they're playing at Pittodrie next week.

DIXIHIBS
05-04-2025, 06:06 PM
If Hearts lose tomorrow St Mirren can still catch them, but even then I think it's a long shot, today's loss was a bad one for St Mirren and Motherwell's upturn in form seems to have been a temporary new manager bounce.

In the grand scheme of things a Hearts win against Dundee Utd wouldn't be a disaster for Hibs, they would still be 8 points behind us with 6 games to go and it would leave Utd 6 points behind us. Both have a pretty large minus goal difference to us as well, though obviously that will change unless it's a draw, which wouldn't be too bad either, leaving Hearts 7 behind and Utd 5 behind.

When it comes to next week I can't see Dundee Utd failing to win at home to a rank rotten St Johnstone and the odds are Hearts will win at Motherwell. The big imponderable is Aberdeen at home to the Sticky Buns .... with a massive Euro tie coming up and the league almost certainly gone by then ( lets face it, it already is ) I simply can't see them being stupid enough to field their strongest XI .... in fact it was a surprise they did today against us ... which sadly means Aberdeen may very well take something from the game, possibly even win it.

All of this makes our game with Dundee as big a game as it possibly could be ..... another 'must win' in a post Christmas series of 'must win' games ....... I can't help thinking that of all those must win games, this is the 'must winningest' as our American owners would say :greengrin

Draw would leave hertz 10 behind. We're 11 ahead just now.

IberianHibernian
05-04-2025, 06:56 PM
Looks like Hearts need 2 draws or 1 win from next 2 matches to make top 6 . Today`s results favured their top 6 chances but also mean they`ll be back in relegation trouble if they don`t get the 2 points . Could have a Hearts v St Johnstone final with both teams relegated .

HIBS NUTS
05-04-2025, 07:00 PM
We are brilliant

SHODAN
05-04-2025, 07:14 PM
If Hearts win, they qualify.

If they fail to win, the Motherwell game is a decider.

erin go bragh
05-04-2025, 07:32 PM
Be funny if the gimps miss out on the top six but a win tomorrow guarantees them top six and a chance for three straight wins for us

SHODAN
05-04-2025, 07:33 PM
Be funny if the gimps miss out on the top six but a win tomorrow guarantees them top six and a chance for three straight wins for us

Regardless of how good we are right now I would take a trip to Motherwell or St Mirren over them any day. Don't want to give them even a hope of spoiling our party.