I never knew Celtic were so pathetic.

[PatHead]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.

[SON OF PADDY]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.

Horrible, smelly, want to be paddy's.
Best fans in the world my arse, place was like a morgue. 💀

[Viva_Palmeiras]

It’s “paradise” tho fellas! As CeltcTV are obligated to mention every 10mins.

[The Spaceman]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.

Mate said this - Ibrox is bad enough but Celtic Park even worse in terms of pandering to their sectarianism.

[SHODAN]

Anyone pass the guy with the megaphone selling rosaries? You have to laugh.

I also see that Tequila is the latest song they've decided is theirs.

[FastEddieFelson]

Whole thing felt like a parody.

Chanting along to that stupid tequila song as well. Dickheads.

[Hibi]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.

Agreed, couldn’t believe how bad it was today. Awful. People complain about us not doing much of it, but I’m glad we don’t, that was embarrassing

[HarpOnHibee]

Agreed, couldn’t believe how bad it was today. Awful. People complain about us not doing much of it, but I’m glad we don’t, that was embarrassing

Literally nobody is complaining about us not doing much of it.

[LithgaeHibby]

Walked past two boozers with nae windaes on the way to the ground. Both had live bands getting the home fans warmed up with “good old” pro IRA favourites. Like something from the dark ages.

[marinello59]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.

It’s something they have have built up over the past decade. Bigotry sells.

[Kato]

They have to convince themselves and others of how very, very Irish they are - more Irish than actual Irish stuff.

Strange people.

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[TrinityHFC]

Agreed, couldn’t believe how bad it was today. Awful. People complain about us not doing much of it, but I’m glad we don’t, that was embarrassing

I think there’s a lot of misunderstanding about Ireland and sectarianism.

Recognising an Irish heritage has nothing to do with sectarianism. I don’t think celebrating anything to do with Ireland’s fight for freedom over 100 years ago has anything to do with sectarianism.

The way I see it currently is that Rangers fans tend to have a here and now active hatred of people. Not restricted to catholics either.

Might not be hugely relevant to football or to 2025 but I don’t think the stuff Celtic fans align with is in the same ballpark.

Spend any time in Dublin. They obviously care deeply about their own freedom and the background to that but they couldn’t give a toss about the stuff that we hear about in Glasgow.

[Dmas]

Even the lassie they dragged out for the half time draw was there because she’s off to somewhere else to tell everyone how Irish and Glaswegian she was, walked passed a boy dressed in tartan playing fields of athenry on the bagpipes on my way to the ground as well

[Broken Gnome]

I'd honestly rather go to Ibrox. It was one big fawning mass self-indulgent congregation of everyone trying to be a Celtic as possible, with no escape from folk music, nasal tones and total weirdos everything.

They're really one big Only An Excuse caricature of themselves. I hate Rangers, zero time for Hearts, but I'd put them quite comfortably at least level-top of any list of fanbases I'd like to see miserable.

[SHODAN]

I think there’s a lot of misunderstanding about Ireland and sectarianism.

Recognising an Irish heritage has nothing to do with sectarianism. I don’t think celebrating anything to do with Ireland’s fight for freedom over 100 years ago has anything to do with sectarianism.

The way I see it currently is that Rangers fans tend to have a here and now active hatred of people. Not restricted to catholics either.

Might not be hugely relevant to football or to 2025 but I don’t think the stuff Celtic fans align with is in the same ballpark.

Spend any time in Dublin. They obviously care deeply about their own freedom and the background to that but they couldn’t give a toss about the stuff that we hear about in Glasgow.

There was a club employee doing the videoing fans thing outside the ground and as I passed a guy walked right up to it, fully aware his face was on camera, and goes "up the provisional IRA".

They have just as much a problem as their cousins.

[Pagan Hibernia]

They have to convince themselves and others of how very, very Irish they are - more Irish than actual Irish stuff.

Strange people.

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:agree:

They seem desperately insecure. It's quite sad in a way.

[SickBoy32]

Mate said this - Ibrox is bad enough but Celtic Park even worse in terms of pandering to their sectarianism.

Didn’t hear any sectarianism today, or for quite a few years from the Celtic support to be honest. Don’t fall into this false equivalence game that the huns try and play.

Rangers release orange strips, in reference to a bigoted and sectarian fraternal organisation. They allow paratroopers to abseil into ibrox with the match ball, allow uniformed members of the armed forces to chant along to their (genuinely sectarian) tunes.

Celtic just sing folk songs and play up the Irish connection for commercial reasons. Nauseating aye, sectarian no.

[Pagan Hibernia]

There was a club employee doing the videoing fans thing outside the ground and as I passed a guy walked right up to it, fully aware his face was on camera, and goes "up the provisional IRA".

They have just as much a problem as their cousins.

Do the people who say stuff like this know what year it is? In their heads theyre still living in the 1980s. Which I suppose is a slight improvement on their blue cousins living in the 1680s

[Carheenlea]

It's been like that for many years at Celtic, and the faux Irish jamboree led by Scots that matchdays has become through there is largely laughed off from most neutral observers in the ridiculousness that it deserves.

[LunasBoots]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.

If it wisnae for the Hibees they would indeed be Huns.

[Kato]

:agree:

They seem desperately insecure. It's quite sad in a way.

My Irish (Hibs supporting) pal hates them with a passion. When he lived in Glasgow any Celtic fan who found out he was Irish would immediately fill him in on how extremely Irish they were too or start up a conversation about "the 'ra".

He finds that Hibs have got the balance just right and has supported us for going on 30 years.

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[TrinityHFC]

There was a club employee doing the videoing fans thing outside the ground and as I passed a guy walked right up to it, fully aware his face was on camera, and goes "up the provisional IRA".

They have just as much a problem as their cousins.

Not sure that’s quite as big a problem. I’m sure there are some idiots in all supports but largely I think Celtic fans associate with Irishness and Catholicism, which have little to do with football but there’s nothing inherently wrong with either.

If you look at the socials of a standard Rangers fan you generally see much more active hatred of things in the here and now. Bigotry, racism, homophobia etc.

[Hibby70]

Remember guys, E is for echo. Just in case you didn't get it the 236 times he mentioned it at half time.

[Pagan Hibernia]

My Irish (Hibs supporting) pal hates them with a passion. When he lived in Glasgow any Celtic fan who found out he was Irish would immediately fill him in on how extremely Irish they were too or start up a conversation about "the 'ra".

He finds that Hibs have got the balance just right and has supported us for going on 30 years.

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Absolutely. I've witnessed it myself.

There's no bigger pub bore than a celtic fan.

[LancashireHibby]

Whole thing felt like a parody.
Exactly the word I used when talking to the wife at half time after the 36th *******ised Irish “folk” song. Was like being in a huge Irish theme pub.

“Springburn…”

[S4uzee]

Remember guys, E is for echo. Just in case you didn't get it the 236 times he mentioned it at half time.

Glad someone else noticed 🤣

[HibeeMackenzie]

Walking back to queen street some absolute loop was singing “if it wasn’t for the Celtic you’d be huns” even his pals seemed confused by the fud.
Unsurprisingly he was on our train back to Waverley

[SHODAN]

Mate said this - Ibrox is bad enough but Celtic Park even worse in terms of pandering to their sectarianism.

At least at Ibrox the home fans actually seem to care about beating us. The game means something to them.

50,000 of them today and I could count on one hand the number that actually seemed to give a ****.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Walking back to queen street some absolute loop was singing “if it wasn’t for the Celtic you’d be huns” even his pals seemed confused by the fud.
Unsurprisingly he was on our train back to Waverley

Haha, the big boy with the yellow top? He was reacting to the young Hibs fans singing if it wisnae for the Hibees. It was a bit of a cringe all round.

[HibeeMackenzie]

Haha, the big boy with the yellow top? He was reacting to the young Hibs fans singing if it wisnae for the Hibees. It was a bit of a cringe all round.

Big grown man with a players name on the back of his top

[The Harp Awakes]

Poor thread and complete deflection.

Celtic fans sing Irish songs, so what? They are plastics and owe their existence to the hibees and they hate it.

Lets not make escuses. We were poor today. Gave them too much possession and we deserved nothing.

[givescotlandfreedom]

I think their whole club is a fraud.
They've got a pseudo Socialist persona when they're the greediest, most entitled, predatory club in the league. Their clones aren't even as good at it.

[Nutmegged]

Anyone pass the guy with the megaphone selling rosaries? You have to laugh.

I also see that Tequila is the latest song they've decided is theirs.

Football fans singing about a player whos playing really well for them, shocking behaviour. 😂

[Jones28]

Poor thread and complete deflection.

Celtic fans sing Irish songs, so what? They are plastics and owe their existence to the hibees and they hate it.

Lets not make escuses. We were poor today. Gave them too much possession and we deserved nothing.

That’s not the topic of discussion though is it?

For many today was their first experience of Celtic park in a while, or in my case ever.

I found it beyond cringeworthy. I couldn’t help but feel being a Celtic fan must be boring as **** and only gets exciting for the European games.

[GreenCastle]

That’s not the topic of discussion though is it?

For many today was their first experience of Celtic park in a while, or in my case ever.

I found it beyond cringeworthy. I couldn’t help but feel being a Celtic fan must be boring as **** and only gets exciting for the European games.

And they often get pumped in Europe too as they aren’t good enough at the top level.

They really only get excited when beating the Huns.

[Since452]

Very weird club. Very weird fans.

[Trinity Hibee]

That’s not the topic of discussion though is it?

For many today was their first experience of Celtic park in a while, or in my case ever.

I found it beyond cringeworthy. I couldn’t help but feel being a Celtic fan must be boring as **** and only gets exciting for the European games.

Ye, today was my first time at CP and I was surprised how the Irish theme was shoved down throats. I always had it in my head that rangers were worse for this sort of stuff but today confirmed they are as bad as each other.

Felt like I was back in a Blackpool flee market with Daniel O’Donnells CD on repeat. Absolute cringe

[SHODAN]

Football fans singing about a player whos playing really well for them, shocking behaviour. 😂

Ah ok, didn't know it was for a specific player.

[Pretty Boy]

:agree:

They seem desperately insecure. It's quite sad in a way.

I think that is what shines through.

It's all just a bit cringeworthy and try hard, almost like they are convincing themselves as much as anything.

I don't have any real objection to the songs played at HT in the right setting (I think you would struggle to argue any are sectarian if you looked at the lyrics) but that setting isn't a football stadium in Scotland in 2025. It's just a bit weird.

[WhileTheChief..]

I think they would say they are celebrating their history and origins and that there's nothing sectarian going on.

Just this week we had a thread about Sunshine on Leith where you are all ripping into Celtic fans for slagging us off for singing it. The general response being we can sing what we like and can celebrate how and when we want.

We also have a thread about the original club crest and strip which includes stuff about our history and origins, with folk rightly proud of our Irish heritage.

Double standards here. Let them do their thing and we'll do ours. Don't see any problem with that at all.

[Ray_]

At least at Ibrox the home fans actually seem to care about beating us. The game means something to them.

50,000 of them today and I could count on one hand the number that actually seemed to give a ****.

I would think that is because it has all become so routine, given that it has been so long since we beat them there.

The same would apply to all their domestic opponents, bar one.

[Itsnoteasy]

Poor thread and complete deflection.

Celtic fans sing Irish songs, so what? They are plastics and owe their existence to the hibees and they hate it.

Lets not make escuses. We were poor today. Gave them too much possession and we deserved nothing.


Poor post.

[TrinityHFC]

I think they would say they are celebrating their history and origins and that there's nothing sectarian going on.

Just this week we had a thread about Sunshine on Leith where you are all ripping into Celtic fans for slagging us off for singing it. The general response being we can sing what we like and can celebrate how and when we want.

We also have a thread about the original club crest and strip which includes stuff about our history and origins, with folk rightly proud of our Irish heritage.

Double standards here. Let them do their thing and we'll do ours. Don't see any problem with that at all.

I think, even within Hibs fans, there is still an undercurrent of anti Irish and anti Catholic feeling.

Nothing offensive in itself about either. I don’t think many understand enough about the differences in Irish history say between 1916 and then 1970s.

I’m not hugely aware about them singing about hating or killing anyone.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think, even within Hibs fans, there is still an undercurrent of anti Irish and anti Catholic feeling.

Nothing offensive in itself about either. I don’t think many understand enough about the differences in Irish history say between 1916 and then 1970s.

I’m not hugely aware about them singing about hating or killing anyone.

I have never seen anything whatsoever to suggest this.

[Ray_]

I think this thread is rather bizarre, people are astonished that Irishness is routinely celebrated at Parkhead!

In Ireland, there are far more people wearing Celtic colours than any other team.

It is hardly unique to Parkhead. The Irish immigrants went to all corners of the world, often fueled by their poverty at home.

They celebrate their Irishness, in pubs or clubs, at the weekend the world over.

Paddies Day is also celebrated Worldwide.

Scottish people do the same thing, although not to the same degree as Irish people, but then, we didn't have half our population emigrate rather than having to starve to death.

As for the folk songs, capturing the freedom fighting of yesteryear, yeah right, Flower of Scotland, anyone?

[Mcbizz1998]

**** Celtic. Bunch of plastic paddy gimps. Can’t stand them.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think this thread is rather bizarre, people are astonished that Irishness is routinely celebrated at Parkhead!

In Ireland, there are far more people wearing Celtic colours than any other team.

It is hardly unique to Parkhead. The Irish immigrants went to all corners of the world, often fueled by their poverty at home.

They celebrate their Irishness, in pubs or clubs, at the weekend the world over.

Paddies Day is also celebrated Worldwide.

Scottish people do the same thing, although not to the same degree as Irish people, but then, we didn't have half our population emigrate rather than having to starve to death.

As for the folk songs, capturing the freedom fighting of yesteryear, yeah right, Flower of Scotland, anyone?

Yes, to the unending amusement of actual Irish people in Ireland who see them as fake 'plastic paddys'

[givescotlandfreedom]

In Ireland, there are far more people wearing Celtic colours than any other team.

No danger. Much more EPL orientated, Liverpool and Man United especially.

[DH1875]

I think they would say they are celebrating their history and origins and that there's nothing sectarian going on.

Just this week we had a thread about Sunshine on Leith where you are all ripping into Celtic fans for slagging us off for singing it. The general response being we can sing what we like and can celebrate how and when we want.

We also have a thread about the original club crest and strip which includes stuff about our history and origins, with folk rightly proud of our Irish heritage.

Double standards here. Let them do their thing and we'll do ours. Don't see any problem with that at all.

Take it all the pro IRA stuff is fine as well?

[SON OF PADDY]

Remember guys, E is for echo. Just in case you didn't get it the 236 times he mentioned it at half time.


Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode 😉🤣🤣🤣

[Jones28]

I think this thread is rather bizarre, people are astonished that Irishness is routinely celebrated at Parkhead!

In Ireland, there are far more people wearing Celtic colours than any other team.

It is hardly unique to Parkhead. The Irish immigrants went to all corners of the world, often fueled by their poverty at home.

They celebrate their Irishness, in pubs or clubs, at the weekend the world over.

Paddies Day is also celebrated Worldwide.

Scottish people do the same thing, although not to the same degree as Irish people, but then, we didn't have half our population emigrate rather than having to starve to death.

As for the folk songs, capturing the freedom fighting of yesteryear, yeah right, Flower of Scotland, anyone?

Folk songs from a different country, referencing incidents that happened hundreds of years ago frequently and enthusiastically sprinkled with "Up The 'Ra" nonsense is not at all equitable to singing the national anthem of the country we actually live in - and I can't remember the last time I heard this sung at ER - Sunderland in pre-season in 2017 maybe?

[JeMeSouviens]

It’s the same handful of “safe” almost rebel but not quite songs on a loop. Even its biggest fan must be bored senseless by the Fields of Athenry by now. Yawn.

[Keith_M]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.



I was thinking the exact same thing.

There's nothing wrong with celebrating your heritage but today was totally cringeworthy.

We had a kid with us and he asked if we had to show our passports on the way out..

[Ray_]

Folk songs from a different country, referencing incidents that happened hundreds of years ago frequently and enthusiastically sprinkled with "Up The 'Ra" nonsense is not at all equitable to singing the national anthem of the country we actually live in - and I can't remember the last time I heard this sung at ER - Sunderland in pre-season in 2017 maybe?

The IRA from 1969 was a different animal entirely from the ones in 1916, who were fighting against the tyranny of British rule and most in the south of Ireland disliked the 1969 version, with a passion. Up the Ra is a reference to the 1916 era.

You got it in one why would you sing the Scottish [adopted anthem] when playing Dundee?

My son is a passionate Hibs and Scotland fan. He was born and brought up in London, but if he had the choice, Scotland is the team he would have represented.

There is nothing wrong with heritage and celebrating it.

[Keith_M]

This is always the first thing that springs to mind when I visit Celtc Park



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6SsCc2UuXo

[Ray_]

Yes, to the unending amusement of actual Irish people in Ireland who see them as fake 'plastic paddys'

The plastic paddies term came from middle-class Irish immigrants in the 80's, as a derogatory term to the second generation already here. Nothing more than class orientated.

Most Irish families have relatives living and brought up in the UK and they wouldn't regard to their family members as plastic anything, except for the craic.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The IRA from 1969 was a different animal entirely from the ones in 1916, who were fighting against the tyranny of British rule and most in the south of Ireland disliked the 1969 version, with a passion. Up the Ra is a reference to the 1916 era.

You got it in one why would you sing the Scottish [adopted anthem] when playing Dundee?

My son is a passionate Hibs and Scotland fan. He was born and brought up in London, but if he had the choice, Scotland is the team he would have represented.

There is nothing wrong with heritage and celebrating it.

Only real difference is when they happened. Post 1969 IRA have hurt people who are alive in the here and now. The victims of the 1910s IRA are long dead and essentially forgotten, as are their children, so they're easier to romanticise.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The plastic paddies term came from middle-class Irish immigrants in the 80's, as a derogatory term to the second generation already here. Nothing more than class orientated.

Most Irish families have relatives living and brought up in the UK and they wouldn't regard to their family members as plastic anything, except for the craic.

Well I live in Ireland and have seen the laughter, raised eyebrows and general contempt reserved for people abroad who shove their Irish heritage down everyone's throat

[Ray_]

No danger. Much more EPL orientated, Liverpool and Man United especially.

Liverpool, Man Utd, yes big support, as both big areas of Irish immigrants and the local catholic leaning clubs.

But what sets Celtic apart in Ireland, is that it is regarded as the Irish club, as, like Hibs, it was started especially for the local Irish population.

[OstKurve Hibs]

I'd say celtics roots are more from Leith than Ireland. Always makes me laugh the reaction I get when I wind them up about that.

[mcohibs]

The IRA from 1969 was a different animal entirely from the ones in 1916, who were fighting against the tyranny of British rule and most in the south of Ireland disliked the 1969 version, with a passion. Up the Ra is a reference to the 1916 era.

You got it in one why would you sing the Scottish [adopted anthem] when playing Dundee?

My son is a passionate Hibs and Scotland fan. He was born and brought up in London, but if he had the choice, Scotland is the team he would have represented.

There is nothing wrong with heritage and celebrating it.

Head in the sand I’m afraid. Celtic fans have a lengthy songbook referencing and eulogising the Provisional IRA and events of the Troubles. Anyone saying ‘up the RA’ either in the north of Ireland or on these shores do not solely have 1916 at the front of mind.

[Keith_M]

It's not really the roots of the club that were the issue, it was the totally cringeworthy way they went about it yesterday, plus the same cheesy songs they play every time.

Some of their fans need to think about moving on as well.

[Keith_M]

Head in the sand I’m afraid. Celtic fans have a lengthy songbook referencing and eulogising the Provisional IRA and events of the Troubles. Anyone saying ‘up the RA’ either in the north of Ireland or on these shores do not solely have 1916 at the front of mind.


:top marks

[OstKurve Hibs]

It's not really the roots of the club that were the issue, it was the totally cringeworthy way they went about it yesterday, plus the same cheesy songs they play every time.

Some of their fans need to think about moving on as well.

True, seems a bit st Patrick's day parade'ish on a matchday there. Maybe the lack of atmosphere from the home fans tells you they're a bit bored of it to. Each to their own, let them do their thing and we will do ours.

[Ray_]

Well I live in Ireland and have seen the laughter, raised eyebrows and general contempt reserved for people abroad who shove their Irish heritage down everyone's throat

I've been to Ireland countless times, my wife of over thirty years and her family are Irish and so are a lot of friends I had in London, who have gone home again. If it was so prevalent, I would have thought I'd have heard the term being used other than the craic.

In context, if this were the case, it would be nothing but snobbery, I'm a better Irish person than you, so not worth debating anyway.

[Mcbizz1998]

Always amazes me the people who leap to defend Celtic and their ****bag fans because they happen to have sympathy for the Irish cause.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I've been to Ireland countless times, my wife of over thirty years and her family are Irish and so are a lot of friends I had in London, who have gone home again. If it was so prevalent, I would have thought I'd have heard the term being used other than the craic.

In context, if this were the case, it would be nothing but snobbery, I'm a better Irish person than you, so not worth debating anyway.

Might it be that you wife doesn't shove her irishness down people's throats? Doesn't bore strangers in pubs telling them about her ancestry?

If so, then obviously it's not the same thing.

[Jones28]

The IRA from 1969 was a different animal entirely from the ones in 1916, who were fighting against the tyranny of British rule and most in the south of Ireland disliked the 1969 version, with a passion. Up the Ra is a reference to the 1916 era.

You got it in one why would you sing the Scottish [adopted anthem] when playing Dundee?

My son is a passionate Hibs and Scotland fan. He was born and brought up in London, but if he had the choice, Scotland is the team he would have represented.

There is nothing wrong with heritage and celebrating it.

Celebrating it is one thing, fetishising it in the way Celtic do is a different matter.

People celebrate St Patricks day, a single day in the year dedicated to it. Fair enough, I'm not Irish, not Catholic and have no affiliation to Ireland whatsoever.

Their up the Ra chants are, in my view, not celebrating the 1916 iteration of the IRA. I think it's a bit ignorant to believe this viewpoint, no disrespect intended.

It's akin to when Billy Dodds and Derek Ferguson tried to pretend the orange kits Rangers brought out were a celebration of the Dutch players they had at the time.

Both sides of the OF cultivate their own sectarian leanings because their fans lap it up.

[Ray_]

Head in the sand I’m afraid. Celtic fans have a lengthy songbook referencing and eulogising the Provisional IRA and events of the Troubles. Anyone saying ‘up the RA’ either in the north of Ireland or on these shores do not solely have 1916 at the front of mind.

That is down to the minds of the individuals, the saying is from the freedom fighter generation, not from the 1969 generation, who preyed on their own communities as well.

Hopefully, the North of Ireland will eventually become truly free from the cretins on either side of the divide and Scotland rid itself of the embarrassment at the same time.

[DH1875]

Erm......they had a big display for Bik McFarlane at parkhead last week. Pretty sure he wasn't around in 1916 FFS.

[Ray_]

Celebrating it is one thing, fetishising it in the way Celtic do is a different matter.

People celebrate St Patricks day, a single day in the year dedicated to it. Fair enough, I'm not Irish, not Catholic and have no affiliation to Ireland whatsoever.

Their up the Ra chants are, in my view, not celebrating the 1916 iteration of the IRA. I think it's a bit ignorant to believe this viewpoint, no disrespect intended.

It's akin to when Billy Dodds and Derek Ferguson tried to pretend the orange kits Rangers brought out were a celebration of the Dutch players they had at the time.

Both sides of the OF cultivate their own sectarian leanings because their fans lap it up.

They also celebrate it every week in pubs and clubs in England, N America and Australia, it is what Irish people do.

One of the big tourist attractions to Ireland is their singing and dancing and the Irish celebrating their Irishness.

Scottish people do the same, to a lesser extent.

I have no idea what is going on in the heads of those people when they come out with the chant, the Provos were mainly despised in the south.

Mine is not a viewpoint, it is a fact, that up the Ra, in the south of Ireland was used regarding their struggles with independence.

[Ray_]

Might it be that you wife doesn't shove her irishness down people's throats? Doesn't bore strangers in pubs telling them about her ancestry?

If so, then obviously it's not the same thing.

Ireland is full of Irish pubs playing traditional Irish music, which includes the struggles for independence. I don't know who you are trying to kid.

[Jones28]

They also celebrate it every week in pubs and clubs in England, N America and Australia, it is what Irish people do.

One of the big tourist attractions to Ireland is their singing and dancing and the Irish celebrating their Irishness.

Scottish people do the same, to a lesser extent.

I have no idea what is going on in the heads of those people when they come out with the chant, the Provos were mainly despised in the south.

Mine is not a viewpoint, it is a fact, that up the Ra, in the south of Ireland was used regarding their struggles with independence.

Every week? It must be my ignorance but I don't think Irishness is something that is celebrated on a weekly basis anywhere other than Celtic Park.

These are (mostly) Scottish people supporting a Scottish club in a Scottish City. Celebrating the heritage is fine, fetishising it is bizarre and it was in full force yesterday.

Right so your fact that up the Ra is used in the South of Ireland, a country that is now Independant, regarding struggled against the British. Thats fine, but I don't for one second think that Celtic fans drop it in to their songs for that reason. The same way that some of their fans wear balaclavas at ER, its the paramilitary connotations of it that these people are celebrating - and the club itself does nothing to discourage it.

Some of block 7 do wear them too, but they aren't dropping in "ooh, aah, up the Ra" between songs.

[hibsbollah]

Always amazes me the people who leap to defend Celtic and their ****bag fans because they happen to have sympathy for the Irish cause.

I dont know why you’re ‘amazed’, it goes exactly the same for those who have a problem with Irishness, and go on the offensive about it at any opportunity. Personally i thought the kitsch leprauchanary on display was about what iwould have expected, no more,no less. And since they didnt do stuff likesay, sing about Boyle dying while he was lying motionless on the turf, so on that point alone im happy to admit i prefer Celtic fans to Rangers fans.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Ireland is full of Irish pubs playing traditional Irish music, which includes the struggles for independence. I don't know who you are trying to kid.

When did I say there wasn't traditional irish music in ireland?

"Ireland is full of Irish pubs". What sort of a statement is that? In Ireland they're just known as pubs.

[McD]

Erm......they had a big display for Bik McFarlane at parkhead last week. Pretty sure he wasn't around in 1916 FFS.


Haven’t there been displays about Bobby Sands as well?

[NAE NOOKIE]

That was the first time I had visited Celtic park since it was redeveloped and I have to say I was surprisingly underwhelmed by it. Especially the view I had of the old main stand from the top deck which looks totally out of place and rather cobbled together at the corner to accommodate the new stands ... it all looked a bit wobbly to be honest .... IMO if forced to compare the two Ibrox is a far superior stadium.

As for the rest of it ... we were in Glasgow by about 11:30 and the following 3 hours was like being in some sort of Disney Irish theme park, a visitor could have been forgiven for not knowing they were in a Scottish city. If that's their thing then who cares really .. but it all just reminds me of my dear old Edinburgh born and raised mum who's dad was Irish and who would continually sing songs about 'kissing the Blarney' and other such sentimentalised Hollywood produced pish.

As for inside the stadium, the Irish stuff was so overplayed I'm seriously surprised you weren't greeted at the turnstiles by a guy dressed as a Leprechaun carrying a shillelagh who wished you 'top o' the mornin' :greengrin

It all just makes me glad I'm a Hibby to be honest.

[PatHead]

When I started the thread I was meaning to highlight the tackiness of the music and not really get into the IRA/troubles. The songs all sounded like they were from The Dubliners greatest hits. Nothing less than 50 years old.
Reminded me of the quality of the tartan shops on Princes Street.

[Clarence]

I recall going to Celtic Park in the 90s and being blown away by the noise that was created by their fans. It was nothing like that yesterday. They were pretty timid.

[PatHead]

When I started the thread I was meaning to highlight the tackiness of the music and not really get into the IRA/troubles. The songs all sounded like they were from The Dubliners greatest hits. Nothing less than 50 years old. Didn't even have U2 or Boyzone.
Reminded me of the quality of the tartan shops on Princes Street.

[JimBHibees]

No danger. Much more EPL orientated, Liverpool and Man United especially.

Yes agree would be way more EPL strips on show

[SaulGoodman]

I see they are trying to coin the phrase “Sunshine on belief” over on Celtics twitter. What a tinpot team. Must be boring having nothing that belongs to them.

Who would’ve thought losing a match would have them so rattled.

[hibsbollah]

I see they are trying to coin the phrase “Sunshine on belief” over on Celtics twitter. What a tinpot team. Must be boring having nothing that belongs to them.

Who would’ve thought losing a match would have them so rattled.

I would never switch places with a Celtic fan. (Apart from the obvious hygiene implications)Sure they win all the time , but wheres the fun in that when theres no level playing field? They will never experience what we experienced in 2016.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I see they are trying to coin the phrase “Sunshine on belief” over on Celtics twitter. What a tinpot team. Must be boring having nothing that belongs to them.

Who would’ve thought losing a match would have them so rattled.

😅🤣😂

"Sunshine on belief"... wtf does that even mean

[NAE NOOKIE]

I see they are trying to coin the phrase “Sunshine on belief” over on Celtics twitter. What a tinpot team. Must be boring having nothing that belongs to them.

Who would’ve thought losing a match would have them so rattled.

To paraphrase Smokey Robinson: Of all the sad things known to man, there aint too much sadder than, a Celtic fan :whistle:

Write out 100 times .... 'I must not steal other club's songs' :slipper:

[Nutmegged]

I would never switch places with a Celtic fan. (Apart from the obvious hygiene implications)Sure they win all the time , but wheres the fun in that when theres no level playing field? They will never experience what we experienced in 2016.

We shouldn't have needed to experience what we did in 2016 either, as much as I loved that day and it'll be etched in my heart until it stops beating, it was downright embarrassing that we waited 114 years for a Scottish Cup.

[hibsbollah]

We shouldn't have needed to experience what we did in 2016 either, as much as I loved that day and it'll be etched in my heart until it stops beating, it was downright embarrassing that we waited 114 years for a Scottish Cup.

Thats not really the point im making; Celtic fans will never experience the feeling of triumph against the odds, whether its us, or Caley Thistles cup win, or Motherwell winning that 4-3 final, or St Mirren winning it in the 80s.

[gbhibby]

To paraphrase Smokey Robinson: Of all the sad things known to man, there aint too much sadder than, a Celtic fan :whistle:

Write out 100 times .... 'I must not steal other club's songs' :slipper:
Never been Original and never will.

[DH1875]

I look back to the 2013 cup final and the atmosphere for the last 20/30 minutes. I was near the segregation line and remember the celtic fans all just standing look at us as if we were nuts as we were belting out the songs and jumping around instead of them celebrating that they were winning. They'll never get it and never have what we have.
Even after the game getting back into central station loads of their fans were already there. Remember thinking WTF, if we had won the cup we'd all still be in Hampden. Luckily I was proved right a few years later 😁.

[OstKurve Hibs]

😅🤣😂

"Sunshine on belief"... wtf does that even mean

So now we're gonna have hordes of brainwashed celtic gimps belting out

"While the chief, puts sunshiiiiiine on belief'

[The Harp Awakes]

I was invited to Celtic hospitality yesterday by a good mate who is a Celtic fan. His box is just above the Green Brigade part of the stadium

Clearly I had to be on my best behaviour, but most of the folk I met were decent and very complimentary to Hibs. Might have been different if Hibs had won of course :wink:

I was chatting to George McCluskey who spoke fondly of his time at Hibs including the famous Souness red card game. I also spoke to Dixie Deans who played in the first ever game I went to as a Hibs supporter at Easter Road in 1973. He scored 2 that day with Kenny Dalgliesh getting the other in a 0-3 Celtic win.

From where I was sitting, I thought the Hibs support were excellent and it filled me with pride. Their backing for the team was immense.

The Celtic fans around me were definitely bottling it at 1-0 near the end of the 2nd half when Hibs were getting more possession.

Sounds an obvious thing to say, but doing something similar at Rangers hospitality would be a non-starter.

[Ray_]

Every week? It must be my ignorance but I don't think Irishness is something that is celebrated on a weekly basis anywhere other than Celtic Park.

These are (mostly) Scottish people supporting a Scottish club in a Scottish City. Celebrating the heritage is fine, fetishising it is bizarre and it was in full force yesterday.

Right so your fact that up the Ra is used in the South of Ireland, a country that is now Independant, regarding struggled against the British. Thats fine, but I don't for one second think that Celtic fans drop it in to their songs for that reason. The same way that some of their fans wear balaclavas at ER, its the paramilitary connotations of it that these people are celebrating - and the club itself does nothing to discourage it.

Some of block 7 do wear them too, but they aren't dropping in "ooh, aah, up the Ra" between songs.

If you lived and/or worked in London, for over forty years, with the amount of Irish pubs and clubs they have there, you would know it gets done every week.

[Not In The Know]

When I started the thread I was meaning to highlight the tackiness of the music and not really get into the IRA/troubles. The songs all sounded like they were from The Dubliners greatest hits. Nothing less than 50 years old. Didn't even have U2 or Boyzone.
Reminded me of the quality of the tartan shops on Princes Street.

Yup. Agreed I reckon the word Ireland/Irish was mentioned about 20 times at half time by the announcer and on the Big screens.

My main take away walking out the ground was they don’t really see theirselves as a Scottish team.

Which is just odd.

[Thatdayinmay16]

50,000 boring b*******.

Place is an absolute library without the Soap dodging brigade.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Celtic fans singing songs about the Irish wars of Independence freeing their ancestors country from English misrule is entirely to be expected and perfectly acceptable.

The fact that this must be around 4th generation immigrants is a bit odd though, the fact that a reasonable number have no connection to Ireland at all is just weird and the fact that a reasonable minority based on Scottish voting patterns must be British Unionists is downright bonkers.

[Ozyhibby]

I think they would say they are celebrating their history and origins and that there's nothing sectarian going on.

Just this week we had a thread about Sunshine on Leith where you are all ripping into Celtic fans for slagging us off for singing it. The general response being we can sing what we like and can celebrate how and when we want.

We also have a thread about the original club crest and strip which includes stuff about our history and origins, with folk rightly proud of our Irish heritage.

Double standards here. Let them do their thing and we'll do ours. Don't see any problem with that at all.

My thought exactly. We lost the game, we move on. I wasn’t offended by anything I saw yesterday.


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[Ozyhibby]

Yes, to the unending amusement of actual Irish people in Ireland who see them as fake 'plastic paddys'

That’s not true.


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[Ozyhibby]

It’s the same handful of “safe” almost rebel but not quite songs on a loop. Even its biggest fan must be bored senseless by the Fields of Athenry by now. Yawn.

Are we bored with ‘sunshine on Leith’?


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[JeMeSouviens]

Are we bored with ‘sunshine on Leith’?


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Well, it's a much better song, but if we'd been playing it every half time for decades then yes, I think we would be.

[Hibiza]

Yup, it's all rather sad.

[Pagan Hibernia]

That’s not true.


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Based on what I've seen, it is.

[SaulGoodman]

Clearly I had to be on my best behaviour, but most of the folk I met were decent and very complimentary to Hibs. Might have been different if Hibs had won of course :wink:

You said it all with your last sentence. They’re happy to be patronising as **** when they’re winning.

Don’t have the cheek to beat them though, like we did and then had to endure the week-long stewards enquiry.

Can’t stand them.

[Broken Gnome]

Yup. Agreed I reckon the word Ireland/Irish was mentioned about 20 times at half time by the announcer and on the Big screens.

My main take away walking out the ground was they don’t really see theirselves as a Scottish team.

Which is just odd.

I was half debating yesterday what the approach to those supporting clubs 3-42 would be to a league where the dominant side truly was Scottish. They had all Celtic's money, a few entirely dislikeable/managers players thrown in, but none of the rather be anywhere but Scotland baggage of Rangers and Celtic.

Genuinely wonder whether if the hatred levels would be anything like what they typically are.

[Jim44]

To be fair, I think the title of this thread should refer specifically, to Celtic fans. Most of their players probably couldn’t care less about or tell you where Ireland is.

[Pretty Boy]

I would never switch places with a Celtic fan. (Apart from the obvious hygiene implications)Sure they win all the time , but wheres the fun in that when theres no level playing field? They will never experience what we experienced in 2016.

There was a post on the X account 'Fesshole' recently in which a guy said he secretly enjoyed when his team was on a bad run because it gave him something to moan about.

Of course I don't agree with him but I do sometimes prefer being really crap compared to just grindingly mediocre because I love the contrast in emotions of being a football fan. Going from utter despair to elation and back again. Celtic fans just won't know that now. Tbf there will be guys between about my age and maybe 60 who won't remember Jock Stein and the Lisbon Lions and lived through Rangers dominance of the 90s who will still be thinking this is payback but for the younger team and the old codgers this is business as usual. It must be mundane, I had a guy in his late 20s tell me he knew what it was like to experience hardship because he kept going through the 'Tony Mowbray era'. Mowbray was in charge for 9 months and they won 52% of games in his time in charge😅😅

I'd love Hibs to win more, we all would, and I'd probably enjoy a few years of dominance if we got some daft sugar daddy to invest but a bit of hardship is good for a supports soul. I'd get bored supporting a club like Celtic after a pretty short time. Too good for the league they are in by miles, not good enough to compete at the next level up.

[LewysGot2]

When I started the thread I was meaning to highlight the tackiness of the music and not really get into the IRA/troubles. The songs all sounded like they were from The Dubliners greatest hits. Nothing less than 50 years old. Didn't even have U2.

They played Beautiful Day :agree:

[Carheenlea]

If you hadn’t been to Celtic away for say 20 years, I don’t think you’d have felt the matchday experience was any different.

It’s the same songs played over tannoy on repeat, the same songs being played in pub by the live singers and just a sense that this could be any time within the last 20 years.

I find the songs boring and samey and only ever in the place twice a season at most. Genuinely baffled as why the regular Celtic fans don’t feel tired with the same old stuff.
That said, any car driving by with windows down will invariably have the same dusty old songs playing.

I love Ireland and have a large family of Irish in laws and spend a lot of time over there each year. And always look forward to doing so.
I don’t really recognise the version of Ireland that surrounds Celtic home games though.

[Ray_]

When I started the thread I was meaning to highlight the tackiness of the music and not really get into the IRA/troubles. The songs all sounded like they were from The Dubliners greatest hits. Nothing less than 50 years old.
Reminded me of the quality of the tartan shops on Princes Street.

Well said Pat, much more relevant. To be fair, "You'll never walk alone" once THE football anthem, sounds much the same these days, even at Anfield.

Maybe SOL is just a step too far. At least we are ahead on something!

[Irish_Steve]

The IRA from 1969 was a different animal entirely from the ones in 1916, who were fighting against the tyranny of British rule and most in the south of Ireland disliked the 1969 version, with a passion. Up the Ra is a reference to the 1916 era.

You got it in one why would you sing the Scottish [adopted anthem] when playing Dundee?

My son is a passionate Hibs and Scotland fan. He was born and brought up in London, but if he had the choice, Scotland is the team he would have represented.

There is nothing wrong with heritage and celebrating it.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Up to 1969, IRA stood for "I Ran Away" and the whole organisation was generally laughed at.

Anyone saying "Up the `Ra" is referring to the Provos and there's no hiding it.

It's utterly odious that these cretins sing it at our ground ant nothing gets done about it.

And don't even go down the whataboutery route, the The Rangers are just as bad

[FilipinoHibs]

Think people need to research the origins of 1969 IRA :

https://alphahistory.com/northernireland/provisional-ira/

[HibbyKeith]

I'd sooner support Hearts than either of those two through there.

Two cheeks of the same arse!

[gbhibby]

Celtic fans singing songs about the Irish wars of Independence freeing their ancestors country from English misrule is entirely to be expected and perfectly acceptable.

The fact that this must be around 4th generation immigrants is a bit odd though, the fact that a reasonable number have no connection to Ireland at all is just weird and the fact that a reasonable minority based on Scottish voting patterns must be British Unionists is downright bonkers.
When people came over from Ireland it was still under British control. I am second generation Irish with an Irish name do I class myself as Irish? Born and bread in Scottish consider myself to be Scottish.Dont go in for the pseudo Irish thing and personally hate the bigotry that is a cancer in Scottish football.

[Ray_]

I'd sooner support Hearts than either of those two through there.

Two cheeks of the same arse!

I'm the same, I simply supported my local team.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'd sooner support Hearts than either of those two through there.

Two cheeks of the same arse!
Too far. :jamboak:

[JohnM1875]

Too far. :jamboak:

Agreed!

[DH1875]

Erm......they had a big display for Bik McFarlane at parkhead last week. Pretty sure he wasn't around in 1916 FFS.

Sweep, sweep.
Only need to Google Brendan McFarlane celtic display and evidence is clearly there for everyone to see.

[brianmc]

I'm the same, I simply supported my local team.

Good for you.

But the way you've previously defended CFC pandering (very lucratively) to their most gullible 'plastic paddy' fans is no different to the way the horrible, bigoted elements of the Hun support claim "It's wur culture" .

I despise both sides equally - and fully agree they're 2 cheeks of the same disgusting arse.

[Ray_]

Good for you.

But the way you've previously defended CFC pandering (very lucratively) to their most gullible 'plastic paddy' fans is no different to the way the horrible, bigoted elements of the Hun support claim "It's wur culture" .

I despise both sides equally - and fully agree they're 2 cheeks of the same disgusting arse.

Like it or not, Celtic have worldwide support based on their affinity to Ireland.

There are people in many parts of North America & Australia and in the UK, who are proud of their Irish roots, not just at Parkhead.

To many, Celtic are their team, so what, it doesn't make all of them terrorists the same as being Muslim doesn't make you a Jihad.

If things had gone differently and a bulk of the Irish population adopted Hibs, they would have still been my local club and there will be fans in the East end of Glasgow feeling the same.

To me, the massive difference, Celtic didn't ban players of a different faith, at least in my lifetime and their most famous manager and player are/was both Protestants.

The difference to when Mo Johnson was signed was stark and not too long ago I watched a documentary where this fud went into a drawer, pulled out the unused season ticket and that neandertal was beaming in pride that he didn't use it because Rangers had signed a Catholic.

[Carheenlea]

Erm......they had a big display for Bik McFarlane at parkhead last week. Pretty sure he wasn't around in 1916 FFS.


Sweep, sweep.
Only need to Google Brendan McFarlane celtic display and evidence is clearly there for everyone to see.

I would estimate around 80% of the Celtic support would have been googling themselves to find out who Bik McFarlane actually was following the display the other week. And that’s a charitable estimate.

[One Day Soon]

The support for the Ugly Sisters is deeply, deeply boring. They are both more defined by their sectarian opponents than they are by their own purpose. And this sectarian pish is perpetuated deliberately because its good business, creating two large supports throughout Scotland that go way beyond their natural geographical boundaries. Pretty much the biggest difference between them is that one support is relatively open about its sectarianism while the other one likes to cross-dress as being more politically right on.

[Ozyhibby]

When people came over from Ireland it was still under British control. I am second generation Irish with an Irish name do I class myself as Irish? Born and bread in Scottish consider myself to be Scottish.Dont go in for the pseudo Irish thing and personally hate the bigotry that is a cancer in Scottish football.

Some families have stronger roots than others. My family keep in touch with our family in Ireland and are regular visitors but nowhere near as much as my wife’s family. Both of us were born here but she feels more Irish than me and her family even more so. It’s different for everyone but there is no right or wrong and people shouldn’t have to explain it to anyone else.


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[Winston Ingram]

Didn’t hear any sectarianism today, or for quite a few years from the Celtic support to be honest. Don’t fall into this false equivalence game that the huns try and play.

Rangers release orange strips, in reference to a bigoted and sectarian fraternal organisation. They allow paratroopers to abseil into ibrox with the match ball, allow uniformed members of the armed forces to chant along to their (genuinely sectarian) tunes.

Celtic just sing folk songs and play up the Irish connection for commercial reasons. Nauseating aye, sectarian no.

When was the last time you were at ER for a Celtic game? 1949?

[gbhibby]

Some families have stronger roots than others. My family keep in touch with our family in Ireland and are regular visitors but nowhere near as much as my wife’s family. Both of us were born here but she feels more Irish than me and her family even more so. It’s different for everyone but there is no right or wrong and people shouldn’t have to explain it to anyone else.


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No problem with that Ozy I know a few Celtic fans whose links to Ireland are virtually non existent and they support Celtic as they are the "Catholic" team. Religion does not define the Hibs support. I know a lot people who went to non denominational schools that support Hibs, I went to a Catholic school but could easily have supported Hearts like all my friends in the west side of the city where I grew up. Hibs were playing in Europe every season and were the best side in Edinburgh at the time
Never thought of religion as the reason to support a football team. I am glad my team supporters comes from a broad church.

Just sick of the cancer of bigotry that is still present in Scottish football nothing has changed in my 60 years of following Hibs.

[Liberal Hibby]

They played Beautiful Day :agree:

I'm pretty sure they played 'This land is our land' composed by US socialist folk singer, Woody Guthrie but covered by some terrible Irish pub band. But that was me listening on the radio so may have misheard.

[Paul1642]

When was the last time you were at ER for a Celtic game? 1949?

Or even met a modern day Celtic fan for that matter.

[Sylar]

They honestly no longer bother me anymore. Their cringe pro-IRA songbook is the only thing I don't 'get'. It's not because I don't understand the sociopolitics of the IRA and those they represent, rather just find it utterly bonkers anyone in Scotland in 2025 would find it 'worthy' of singing about...

Same with the huns...I frankly share their '**** the Pope and the IRA' sentiment as an atheist who hates organised religion and can't be doing with terrorism (appreciating the nuances of the points I raised in the previous sentence about sociopolitics), but again raising the eyebrows at its place in 2025 Scotland...

I wouldn't call either side 'pathetic' - just extremely out of place, and out of time.

[JOD]

What a lot of nonsense on this post.
My name is Jim O'Donnell my ancestors are from Dungloe,Donegal.
I'm a proud Hibee and will to the day I die.
Took my daughter and granddaughter to game yesterday.
They went Celtic end and I was my hibees.
If some you numpties that believe think going to Ibrox and Parkhead are the same then you grow up and really smell the coffee.
💚GGTH

[Hibrandenburg]

Some families have stronger roots than others. My family keep in touch with our family in Ireland and are regular visitors but nowhere near as much as my wife’s family. Both of us were born here but she feels more Irish than me and her family even more so. It’s different for everyone but there is no right or wrong and people shouldn’t have to explain it to anyone else.


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I'd go further and say that some individuals have stronger roots than others. I have 4 English born cousins on my mother's side, 2 of them identify as Scottish and the other 2 as English. I like to remind the latter 2 that even if a thoroughbred racehorse is born in a pigsty, it's still a racehorse. :greengrin

[Winston Ingram]

If you hadn’t been to Celtic away for say 20 years, I don’t think you’d have felt the matchday experience was any different.

It’s the same songs played over tannoy on repeat, the same songs being played in pub by the live singers and just a sense that this could be any time within the last 20 years.

I find the songs boring and samey and only ever in the place twice a season at most. Genuinely baffled as why the regular Celtic fans don’t feel tired with the same old stuff.
That said, any car driving by with windows down will invariably have the same dusty old songs playing.

I love Ireland and have a large family of Irish in laws and spend a lot of time over there each year. And always look forward to doing so.
I don’t really recognise the version of Ireland that surrounds Celtic home games though.

The previous times I’d been to Celtic park for a Hibs game were a 2-0 defeat in midweek where Phil O’Donnell and and Di Canio scored. Prior to that, a 1-1 all draw where Steven Tweed scored and a 2-1 defeat where Keith Wright scored.

The reason I stopped going there was the pish view, the way police treated you and the bother you got from the home fans before and after.

I decided to go on Sunday because I felt with 7k Hibs fans, it be a very different experience as it was.

Good view, police were very good, and had no bother with their fans. Only difference was the down right weird Irish love in. Genuinely couldn’t believe what I was witnessing.

[norhfc]

Sounds like a bit of a circus at Parkhead, not been for years. I do wonder though, have any of their club representatives ever spat on our club badge in the reception area at Easter Road before. Actions speak louder than words as they say.

[hibstag]

I'd say celtics roots are more from Leith than Ireland. Always makes me laugh the reaction I get when I wind them up about that.

Follow it up by telling them that James Connolly is from Edinburgh and probably a hibee...

[patstanton70]

Follow it up by telling them that James Connolly is from Edinburgh and probably a hibee...
He most certainly was

[Mcbizz1998]

What a lot of nonsense on this post.
My name is Jim O'Donnell my ancestors are from Dungloe,Donegal.
I'm a proud Hibee and will to the day I die.
Took my daughter and granddaughter to game yesterday.
They went Celtic end and I was my hibees.
If some you numpties that believe think going to Ibrox and Parkhead are the same then you grow up and really smell the coffee.
💚GGTH

They are the other cheek of the same arse. You clearly have Celtic sympathies so like to pretend they are ok whilst rangers aren’t.

They are both ****.

[Thatdayinmay16]

They are the other cheek of the same arse. You clearly have Celtic sympathies so like to pretend they are ok whilst rangers aren’t.

They are both ****.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Nail on the head.

[TrinityHFC]

They are the other cheek of the same arse. You clearly have Celtic sympathies so like to pretend they are ok whilst rangers aren’t.

They are both ****.

Not even close and I’ve no Celtic sympathies whatever that is.

Rangers fans on the whole are openly bigoted and intolerant. Sectarianism, racism, homophobia. You don’t have to look very far to see what underpins their beliefs.

I just don’t see anywhere near that level of hatred in Celtic fans.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Not even close and I’ve no Celtic sympathies whatever that is.

Rangers fans on the whole are openly bigoted and intolerant. Sectarianism, racism, homophobia. You don’t have to look very far to see what underpins their beliefs.

I just don’t see anywhere near that level of hatred in Celtic fans.

Didn't the GB have blow up dolls hanging from a noose during an old firm game once with rangers scarves tied around there necks?

Or the show of affection to the man who recently died, the same one who killed an innocent 17 year old lassie btw.

Just banter that though eh.

[Ozyhibby]

Walked out the stadium yesterday to no segregation at all and no problems. Not sure that would happen at Ibrox?


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[hibsbollah]

Follow it up by telling them that James Connolly is from Edinburgh and probably a hibee...

Theres no probably about it. They mention it in the Easter Rising museum in Dublin.

[SHODAN]

Celtic: bad
Rangers: worse

It's not hard. You can hate both and understand the hierarchy.

[hibsbollah]

They are the other cheek of the same arse. You clearly have Celtic sympathies so like to pretend they are ok whilst rangers aren’t.

They are both ****.

I prefer Aberdeen to Hearts. Very slightly. You are therefore saying I must have ‘Aberdeen sympathies’. Boris Johnson preferable to Hitler. I’ve got BawJaws sympathies then.

[OstKurve Hibs]

Follow it up by telling them that James Connolly is from Edinburgh and probably a hibee...

He certainly was a hibee, he used to put the strips out for players as a youngster aswell.

[Ringothedog]

I am no celtc sympathiser, in fact I dislike both sides of arsecheeks. The one thing in celtcs favour is that they were the only club in Scotland who acknowledged and sent something to us in remembrance of the death of Ron Gordon. They may be a lot of things but that small example shows a bit of class that no other club showed. I will now go and lie down as I feel sick at giving them some praise

[Pagan Hibernia]

I prefer Aberdeen to Hearts. Very slightly. You are therefore saying I must have ‘Aberdeen sympathies’. Boris Johnson preferable to Hitler. I’ve got BawJaws sympathies then.

It's mad isn't it how some people can't seem to get this

[CraigHibee]

First time I have been through to Parkhead in some time. I always remember the Pope scarves and all that crap but I don't remember half time being like it was today.
Every song was an old Irish song and nothing was from this century.
Can't believe they all fall for this.

They are equally as bad as the Huns.

pandering to the masses, even said that to the mrs at half time

[Donegal Hibby]

What a lot of nonsense on this post.
My name is Jim O'Donnell my ancestors are from Dungloe,Donegal.
I'm a proud Hibee and will to the day I die.
Took my daughter and granddaughter to game yesterday.
They went Celtic end and I was my hibees.
If some you numpties that believe think going to Ibrox and Parkhead are the same then you grow up and really smell the coffee.
💚GGTH

Hello JOD . I noticed you say your ancestors were from Dungloe , Donegal . That’s where I’m from and one of about 8 or 9 Hibees in this area though i have heard there is a few more of us in surrounding areas too …

Generally the area has mainly Celtic fans or supporters of the big English teams . My mates are mostly Celtic fans who have a soft spot for Hibs and would want to see us win most week. I doubt the huns would! .

I usually hope Celtic win the league and the cups if it’s down to an OF final especially as it hurts the hun hordes more . The more pain they feel losing to their rivals the better as far as I’m concerned.

I don’t think Celtic are even close to how bad the other lot are and while there is the odd A******* here that follows them there’s a lot more like my mates that are decent people who support them too .

[Itsnoteasy]

Not even close and I’ve no Celtic sympathies whatever that is.

Rangers fans on the whole are openly bigoted and intolerant. Sectarianism, racism, homophobia. You don’t have to look very far to see what underpins their beliefs.

I just don’t see anywhere near that level of hatred in Celtic fans.

Dinnae talk 💩

[Mcbizz1998]

I prefer Aberdeen to Hearts. Very slightly. You are therefore saying I must have ‘Aberdeen sympathies’. Boris Johnson preferable to Hitler. I’ve got BawJaws sympathies then.


I wasn’t talking to you.

The guy I was responding to said his child and grandchild were in the Celtic end, telling us his surname is O’Donnell and where in Ireland is ancestors were from.

Don’t think it’s much of a leap to say he is a Celtic sympathiser 😂

[Mcbizz1998]

Walked out the stadium yesterday to no segregation at all and no problems. Not sure that would happen at Ibrox?


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Wouldn’t have happened had Hibs won either.

Then you would have seen the real side to the ‘best fans in the world’

[silverhibee]

Anyone pass the guy with the megaphone selling rosaries? You have to laugh.

I also see that Tequila is the latest song they've decided is theirs.

I thought he was preaching until I got closer and noticed he was selling the beeds and some kids rattling buckets.

[Donegal Hibby]

I wasn’t talking to you.

The guy I was responding to said his child and grandchild were in the Celtic end, telling us his surname is O’Donnell and where in Ireland is ancestors were from.

Don’t think it’s much of a leap to say he is a Celtic sympathiser 😂

I don’t think it’s entirely about that though . I remember seeing posts upon post when Stubbs was our manager on their forum wishing his illness would come back .

We also seen the sickening and disrespectful carry on from their fans not once but twice after our chairman passed away .

Each to their own but I hope Celtic smash them every time they meet .

[TrinityHFC]

Dinnae talk 💩

What’s wrong about what I said?

[Kato]

Loads of ins and outs about what is Irish, who is worse, which one favours us or not.

I don't actually care about that at all.

Am half Irish myself from my dad's side and just think of it as a quirk of history. Loved my grand parents as people and do not see the over cooked, over performative stuff from Parkhead as representing them (or me) in any way at all.

The stark truth is the biggest phenomenon in Scottish football is their hatred of each other.

Its not a footballing rivalry but a subbuteo version of a very narrow part of Irelands history and culture, which with them has to be acted out in miniature every week.

Everyone else in Scottish football, including the authorities, has to pander in one way or another or to some degree to their hatred - and they see everything else in Scottish football through their hate filled wrong way round telescope lens.

It ruins the sport here and Scottish football is worse off because they HAVE to play pretend politics.

Boring as.



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[JimBHibees]

Loads of ins and outs about what is Irish, who is worse, which one favours us or not.

I don't actually care about that at all.

Am half Irish myself from my dad's side and just think of it as a quirk of history. Loved my grand parents as people and do not see the over cooked, over performative stuff from Parkhead as representing them (or me) in any way at all.

The stark truth is the biggest phenomenon in Scottish football is their hatred of each other.

Its not a footballing rivalry but a subbuteo version of a very narrow part of Irelands history and culture, which with them has to acted out in miniature every week.

Everyone else in Scottish football, including the authorities, has to pander in one way or another or to some degree to their hatred - and they see everything else in Scottish football through their hate filled wrong way round telescope lens.

It ruins the sport here and Scottish football is worse off because they HAVE to play pretend politics.

Boring as.



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Excellent summary

[Pagan Hibernia]

Simple rule of thumb where celtic fans and hibs are concerned. If they are being nice to us, it means we're not doing too well. Patronising wee pats on the head, 'our friends down the M8' etc.

If they're being nasty and obnoxious to us, it means we've threatened them in some way. Ie. Beating them two weeks ago. Then our anthem getting a lot of outside attention which took some of the spotlight off them for a few days, something thats utterly intolerable to them.

Remember this principle and you won't go far wrong.

[Kato]

Simple rule of thumb where celtic fans and hibs are concerned. If they are being nice to us, it means we're not doing too well. Patronising wee pats on the head, 'our friends down the M8' etc.

If they're being nasty and obnoxious to us, it means we've threatened them in some way. Ie. Beating them two weeks ago. Then our anthem getting a lot of outside attention which took some of the spotlight off them for a few days, something thats utterly intolerable to them.

Remember this principle and you won't go far wrong....also if they are doing badly they hate everyone else. We are then branded not as their cousins but as "soup takers" who have abandoned their roots. If celtic aren't winning watch out for the CS Gas and getting jumped mob handed.

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[Itsnoteasy]

What’s wrong about what I said?

Look at their carry on with the goal that wasn't the goal. Both are on the same level of bigotry & hatred. Wouldn't miss either teams if anything unexpected happened to both

[JeMeSouviens]

I'm pretty sure they played 'This land is our land' composed by US socialist folk singer, Woody Guthrie but covered by some terrible Irish pub band. But that was me listening on the radio so may have misheard.

They do, but it's a b******ised version with lyrics about Ireland rather than the US.

[JeMeSouviens]

...also if they are doing badly they hate everyone else. We are then branded not as their cousins but as "soup takers" who have abandoned their roots. If celtic aren't winning watch out for the CS Gas and getting jumped mob handed.

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:agree:

"Green Huns". :rolleyes:

[CropleyWasGod]

They do, but it's a b******ised version with lyrics about Ireland rather than the US.

There are localised versions all over the world, even for Scotland.

Thread hijack, but even Woody's version is controversial. The natives aren't impressed with it. :cb

[Ray_]

I wasn’t talking to you.

The guy I was responding to said his child and grandchild were in the Celtic end, telling us his surname is O’Donnell and where in Ireland is ancestors were from.

Don’t think it’s much of a leap to say he is a Celtic sympathiser 😂

It is a massive leap, but he will understand the Irish culture surrounding heritage & folk songs.

Why would Celtic need sympathy? That is as ridiculous as calling an Irish person a Provo or Unionist.

[JeMeSouviens]

Follow it up by telling them that James Connolly is from Edinburgh and probably a hibee...

So was Brother Walfrid. :wink:

[JeMeSouviens]

Another thing that's always bugged me is that they can't even pronounce their own club's name. Gadhlig or gaelige, there is no soft 'c'.

[CropleyWasGod]

Another thing that's always bugged me is that they can't even pronounce their own club's name. Gadhlig or gaelige, there is no soft 'c'.

And that is because of the anglicisation of the indigenous cultures and languages of the British Isles.

So you could say that "Seltic" is actually English in origin :greengrin

[One Day Soon]

Loads of ins and outs about what is Irish, who is worse, which one favours us or not.

I don't actually care about that at all.

Am half Irish myself from my dad's side and just think of it as a quirk of history. Loved my grand parents as people and do not see the over cooked, over performative stuff from Parkhead as representing them (or me) in any way at all.

The stark truth is the biggest phenomenon in Scottish football is their hatred of each other.

Its not a footballing rivalry but a subbuteo version of a very narrow part of Irelands history and culture, which with them has to be acted out in miniature every week.

Everyone else in Scottish football, including the authorities, has to pander in one way or another or to some degree to their hatred - and they see everything else in Scottish football through their hate filled wrong way round telescope lens.

It ruins the sport here and Scottish football is worse off because they HAVE to play pretend politics.

Boring as.



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This is one of the best posts I have read on .net. One caveat, they don't have to play pretend politics, they want to. It keeps them bigger than the rest and keeps the money rolling in from way beyond their natural geographical fan base.

[Kato]

This is one of the best posts I have read on .net. One caveat, they don't have to play pretend politics, they want to. It keeps them bigger than the rest and keeps the money rolling in from way beyond their natural geographical fan base.[emoji106]

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[Ozyhibby]

Another thing that's always bugged me is that they can't even pronounce their own club's name. Gadhlig or gaelige, there is no soft 'c'.

That’s the spirit, suppress the language for a few hundred years and then mock them for not speaking it properly.[emoji106]


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[PatHead]

Another thing that's always bugged me is that they can't even pronounce their own club's name. Gadhlig or gaelige, there is no soft 'c'.

You mean we don't have a Cellic heritage?

[superfurryhibby]

Another thing that's always bugged me is that they can't even pronounce their own club's name. Gadhlig or gaelige, there is no soft 'c'.

I attended the School of Scottish Studies at Edinburgh University, I did an MA in Scottish Ethnology and Prehistoric Archaeology. The Gaelic speakers at S.S.S called it Seltic, the prehistorians said Keltic.

[Liberal Hibby]

They do, but it's a b******ised version with lyrics about Ireland rather than the US.

Ta - I'll remember to look out for it so I can avoid it.

[Liberal Hibby]

There are localised versions all over the world, even for Scotland.

Thread hijack, but even Woody's version is controversial. The natives aren't impressed with it. :cb

:thumbsup:

[Mcbizz1998]

It is a massive leap, but he will understand the Irish culture surrounding heritage & folk songs.

Why would Celtic need sympathy? That is as ridiculous as calling an Irish person a Provo or Unionist.

Ok, so you don’t understand the use of the word ‘sympathiser’ in this context.

Got it. 👍

[TrinityHFC]

Look at their carry on with the goal that wasn't the goal. Both are on the same level of bigotry & hatred. Wouldn't miss either teams if anything unexpected happened to both

Complaining about a goal is nowhere near the same as bigotry. What a very strange thing to say.

[Glory Lurker]

There are localised versions all over the world, even for Scotland.

Thread hijack, but even Woody's version is controversial. The natives aren't impressed with it. :cb

That's a point. Did Woody stick up for the indigenous Americans? Is this thread getting moved to the Holy Ground or the Dug Out? Place your bets!

[Bostonhibby]

I attended the School of Scottish Studies at Edinburgh University, I did an MA in Scottish Ethnology and Prehistoric Archaeology. The Gaelic speakers at S.S.S called it Seltic, the prehistorians said Keltic.Aye, that's all very well, but do you know why they called themselves celtc?[emoji6]

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[B.H.F.C]

Walked out the stadium yesterday to no segregation at all and no problems. Not sure that would happen at Ibrox?


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If we’d won it wouldn’t have been as nice as that. But they also think we’re the same as them. They think we like their songs about a the IRA and so on. I’m not sure the Hearts support would mingle so freely without any problems at Celtic Park, just as we wouldn’t at Ibrox. It’s no difficult to work out why that’s the case.

[Itsnoteasy]

Complaining about a goal is nowhere near the same as bigotry. What a very strange thing to say.

It's all aspects of them as a club.
Let's not also forget them driving out an Israeli that played for them due to their allegiances towards a terrorist organisation.

[Centre Hawf]

They are a fragile lot, the tweet about sunshine on belief highlights their little egos being dented at this idea that they're the one the world should be impressed by, and anyone else getting attention for more than 5 minutes gets them riled up.

Their constant need for positive reinforcement from world football about their atmosphere or passion is something like a child who thinks every birthday party is theirs too. If I had a penny for every time I've seen they honking graphics with quotes from Xavi or Morgan Rodgers or who else talking about how amazing their atmosphere is I'd have probably been able to wipe our £7m loss myself.

Still though, nice to see a club that likes to pretend it brushes shoulders with Europes elite such as Bayern can still get monumentally rattled by Rocky Bushiri and the boys still.

Stay humble.

[Thatdayinmay16]

It's all aspects of them as a club.
Let's not also forget them driving out an Israeli that played for them due to their allegiances towards a terrorist organisation.

Two israeli's*
Biton also felt majorly ostracised by that strange support.

[Ozyhibby]

It's all aspects of them as a club.
Let's not also forget them driving out an Israeli that played for them due to their allegiances towards a terrorist organisation.

Do Celtic fans support Hamas?


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[Thatdayinmay16]

Do Celtic fans support Hamas?


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Yes.

Celtic break silence on Palestine banner display with strong statement condemning supporter group (https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/celtic-break-silence-on-palestine-banner-display-with-strong-statement-condemning-supporter-group-4365835)

[Pagan Hibernia]

They are a fragile lot, the tweet about sunshine on belief highlights their little egos being dented at this idea that they're the one the world should be impressed by, and anyone else getting attention for more than 5 minutes gets them riled up.

Their constant need for positive reinforcement from world football about their atmosphere or passion is something like a child who thinks every birthday party is theirs too. If I had a penny for every time I've seen they honking graphics with quotes from Xavi or Morgan Rodgers or who else talking about how amazing their atmosphere is I'd have probably been able to wipe our £7m loss myself.

Still though, nice to see a club that likes to pretend it brushes shoulders with Europes elite such as Bayern can still get monumentally rattled by Rocky Bushiri and the boys still.

Stay humble.

Spot on. You've nailed it.

[eastmainsmsh]

Magnificent achievement winning European cup with legends but to be honest apart from Seville they have done **** all giants in Glasgow and gulf financially ensuring the regular money in champions League

[Dobosz83]

It's all aspects of them as a club.
Let's not also forget them driving out an Israeli that played for them due to their allegiances towards a terrorist organisation.

Not trying to do the job of admin, but given the sensitivity and emotion of that particular subject at the moment, this could set the thread on fire (especially given Block 7's banners in recent times).

[Ozyhibby]

Yes.

Celtic break silence on Palestine banner display with strong statement condemning supporter group (https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/celtic/celtic-break-silence-on-palestine-banner-display-with-strong-statement-condemning-supporter-group-4365835)

Didn’t see any Hamas banner?


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[Itsnoteasy]

Didn’t see any Hamas banner?


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Never seen a Starry Plough flag either.

A section of fans sparked fury with a pre-match tribute to a convicted IRA bomber last month.

They just thrive on terrorist organisations that are in line with their beliefs.

[Thatdayinmay16]

Didn’t see any Hamas banner?


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'Free Palestine (https://www.scotsman.com/topic/palestine). Victory To The Resistance!!"

The resistance fighters in Palestine are quite literally Hamas.

If I put "victory to the resistance" when the US & UK invaded Iraq without waving a Taliban banner, who would I therefore be supporting? Clue - It wouldn't be the UK or US.

[Ozyhibby]

'Free Palestine (https://www.scotsman.com/topic/palestine). Victory To The Resistance!!"

The resistance fighters in Palestine are quite literally Hamas.

If I put "victory to the resistance" when the US & UK invaded Iraq without waving a Taliban banner, who would I therefore be supporting? Clue - It wouldn't be the UK or US.

The Palestinian people are not Hamas.


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[CropleyWasGod]

Never seen a Starry Plough flag either.

A section of fans sparked fury with a pre-match tribute to a convicted IRA bomber last month.

They just thrive on terrorist organisations that are in line with their beliefs.

There's a difference between supporting Hamas and supporting Palestine. While you can argue about whether the latter is appropriate at a football match, that is what some of their fans do. I haven't seen anything to suggest the former, though.

(3-2-1... moving to the Holy Ground imminent ... ..)

[The Tubs]

'Free Palestine (https://www.scotsman.com/topic/palestine). Victory To The Resistance!!"

The resistance fighters in Palestine are quite literally Hamas.

If I put "victory to the resistance" when the US & UK invaded Iraq without waving a Taliban banner, who would I therefore be supporting? Clue - It wouldn't be the UK or US.

I don't think even George W Bush thought the Taliban was in Iraq in 2003.

[Thatdayinmay16]

The Palestinian people are not Hamas.


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Are you deliberately skipping over the part that mentions victory to the resistance or?

[Thatdayinmay16]

I don't think even George W Bush thought the Taliban was in Iraq in 2003.

Haha, probably not but was the first thing I thought of to make my point.

[DH1875]

They've had loads of questionable displays over the years, not just the one for Bik McFarlane. Remember when they had the one with a picture of William Wallace and a picture of Bobby Sands and they were comparing the two.
Another one was the: One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter display.

[TelaStella]

'Free Palestine (https://www.scotsman.com/topic/palestine). Victory To The Resistance!!"

The resistance fighters in Palestine are quite literally Hamas.

If I put "victory to the resistance" when the US & UK invaded Iraq without waving a Taliban banner, who would I therefore be supporting? Clue - It wouldn't be the UK or US.

Still never seen a banner reading “Up the Hamas” though. Resistance to Israeli apartheid, ethnic cleansing, war crimes and mass genocide is a movement way beyond Hamas. It’s a mass international campaign of solidarity, giving strength and support to a barbarically oppressed people.

Personally, I welcome any such banner regardless of the support that flies it.

Show Israel the red card.


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[Thatdayinmay16]

They've had loads of questionable displays over the years, not just the one for Bik McFarlane. Remember when they had the one with a picture of William Wallace and a picture of Bobby Sands and they were comparing the two.
Another one was the: One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter display.

They tied nooses around blow up dolls necks with rangers colours from the stands at an old firm game as well.

[Ozyhibby]

They've had loads of questionable displays over the years, not just the one for Bik McFarlane. Remember when they had the one with a picture of William Wallace and a picture of Bobby Sands and they were comparing the two.
Another one was the: One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter display.

What is the difference?


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[DH1875]

What is the difference?


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Missing the point. None of it should be near ANY football stadium.

[JeMeSouviens]

The Palestinian people are not Hamas.


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The "Victory to the Resistance" banner was displayed on the actual day of the October 7th attacks. I don't think the Green Brigade are necessarily that representative of Celtc fans generally, but it's clear that they at least support Hamas.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c9re9rr3rn9o

[JeMeSouviens]

That’s the spirit, suppress the language for a few hundred years and then mock them for not speaking it properly.[emoji106]


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There's plenty of gaelic based names with the proper sound in English - any place with an anglicised name starting "Kil" "Kin" or "Kyle" (Cille, Ceann, Caol) for example. And there's no way Walfrid, a mid 19th century immigrant from Sligo didn't know how to say it. Maybe he should've spelled it "Keltic".

[Keith_M]

Politics? Really?