John Beaton

[wookie70]

Barring the penalty where Cadden was brought down I think that may be the best refereeing performance I have seen from Beaton and also one of the best performances from any ref in a Derby match. I have long complained that the Glasgow Derby was refereed differently and today I think Beaton allowed aggression, was even handed and tried to keep the game going at a good pace. I'm quick enough to criticise refs so should also praise them when they do well. Booking Shankland was my highlight and basically stop him being any further factor in the game

[hibsbollah]

I think he got most things right. Shanklands booking was bizarre, like hes stopped caring.

[Northernhibee]

Didn’t think it was a penalty on Cadden btw, if anything he initiated it IMO.

[wookie70]

Didn’t think it was a penalty on Cadden btw, if anything he initiated it IMO. I have only seen it from the other end of teh West so you will likely have a better opinion that me on it. If you are right then that means I can hardly think of anything he got wrong of any consequence. He also played a couple of advantages, one for each team, and pulled it back for the free kicks. I wish that happened far more often

[bingo70]

Didn’t think it was a penalty on Cadden btw, if anything he initiated it IMO.

I find that a crazy take. Have you seen it on the tele or is that from your view at the ground?

It’s an absolute stonewaller.

Apart from that, I agree, Beaton had a good game. It a low bar but he’s the best ref in the country without a doubt imo.

[tonyrougier123]

Jeezo even Beaton getting a positive thread, is there nowt to moan about? 🤷*♂️

[Aldo]

I find that a crazy take. Have you seen it on the tele or is that from your view at the ground?

It’s an absolute stonewaller.

Apart from that, I agree, Beaton had a good game. It a low bar but he’s the best ref in the country without a doubt imo.

Agreed.

Taylor catches Cadden’s heal!

[HendoDelivered]

Thought ref had a decent game today tbf

[Allant1981]

I find that a crazy take. Have you seen it on the tele or is that from your view at the ground?

It’s an absolute stonewaller.

Apart from that, I agree, Beaton had a good game. It a low bar but he’s the best ref in the country without a doubt imo.

I sit in the east and in line with where cadden went down and it looked a stone wall penalty in real time

[Hibee_Lisa]

Wasn’t a penalty, he did well. Few yellows but it wasn’t a dirty game.

[Bobby's Cinema]

I think he got most things right. Shanklands booking was bizarre, like hes stopped caring.
:agree: It wasn't even a heat of the moment booking. He took the ball away and had 5-10 seconds before deciding to do it. Brought the crowd to life for us too. Weird but good luck to him.

[Donegal Hibby]

Wasn’t a penalty, he did well. Few yellows but it wasn’t a dirty game.

Not so sure . That happens to a hun or Celtic player at Ibrox or Parkhead and I think there’s a good chance it gets given.

[blackpoolhibs]

I thought it was a stonewaller penalty, especially after seeing the replay. Clipped his foot as he got across the defender.

[WoreTheGreen]

A thought Shankland maybe trying to get booked
He done the same earlier but it got ignored

[Bobby's Cinema]

I thought it was a stonewaller penalty, especially after seeing the replay. Clipped his foot as he got across the defender.
I think of the soft pen we conceded away at St Johnstone where we were supposed to just accept it was clumsy defending and move on.

The defender is wrong side, clips him, falls onto him and he goes over. As DG said after the game if it's given on the field no chance it gets overturned.

[hibsitis]

Wasn’t a penalty, he did well. Few yellows but it wasn’t a dirty game.

Replays clearly show his ankle being clipped. You'd have to assume VAR was focusing on upper body contact and missed the clip.

[Joe6-2]

I find that a crazy take. Have you seen it on the tele or is that from your view at the ground?

It’s an absolute stonewaller.

Apart from that, I agree, Beaton had a good game. It a low bar but he’s the best ref in the country without a doubt imo.

definite penalty, his view wasn’t great but isn’t that why we have VAR 🙄

[cubehindthegoal]

We don’t need a thread here about him. We know. Just my opinion.

[Joe6-2]

Not so sure . That happens to a hun or Celtic player at Ibrox or Parkhead and I think there’s a good chance it gets given.

100% given

[silverhibee]

Penalty every day of the week, had his heal clipped and was then pushed in to the bargain, only Beaton will know why he never gave that as he had the perfect view of it, and if VAR never reviewed that then something not right, FFS Boyle got booked a few minutes later for the doing the exact same thing to a yam player.

[green day]

I just saw the replay.

Never a pen imv

[silverhibee]

I just saw the replay.

Never a pen imv

That whisky is effecting your eyesight, you do see the clip on his heel. :thumbsup:

[green day]

That whisky is effecting your eyesight, you do see the clip on his heel. :thumbsup:

I've had more than one 😂

Was a pretty bad hooky box sky highlights package, will review my thoughts later 😉

[Centre Hawf]

Didn't think it was a penalty on initial viewing as I was looking for a push, never spotted the kick on his heel. Should be a penalty.

That'll even out all the moaning from the last two games decisions that went our way and we can all call it quits :greengrin

[shetlandhibee]

Wasn’t a penalty, he did well. Few yellows but it wasn’t a dirty game.
Defo stone wall penalty not the push( which wasn’t enough) kicked caddens left foot as he burst bye that made him trip , if you see it at a certain angle it’s clear as day,, surprised Var missed seed it

[percy veer]

Watched the replays thought it wasn't a pen , wasn't until the sky studio said about the clip on his ankle definite pen, hibs should defgo make a song and dance on this one saying its levelled out now

[JohnM1875]

Said it before and got grief, but he's comfortably the best ref we have up here. Maybe not quite the ringing endorsement it should be, but he's fine.

[lyonhibs]

It was a penalty, but not necessarily one you see in real time and at full speed, although a defender is always playing with fire getting caught the wrong side like that.

Don't have any stand out "oh FFS ref" moments and unlike that absolute Mike Hunt against St Mirren, he actually gave a foul or 2 against Bowie.

[Dashing Bob S]

Clear penalty. Beaton is a disgrace. Other than that a career best performance, probably some strange mistake.

[hibees 7062]

Jeezo even Beaton getting a positive thread, is there nowt to moan about? 🤷*♂️
It was only 2 😝

[givescotlandfreedom]

I've not seen it back but they ended up getting a potential penalty at the other end right away which was looked at.

[Kato]

Didn’t think it was a penalty on Cadden btw, if anything he initiated it IMO.What did he do to initiate it?

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[Jim44]

I think it technically was a penalty, but, because Cadden put on a show of falling, it gave Beaton grounds for his decision not to award it.

[JimBHibees]

Said it before and got grief, but he's comfortably the best ref we have up here. Maybe not quite the ringing endorsement it should be, but he's fine.

Personally think Walsh is the best ref not a huge fan of Beaton his arrogance is overpowering

[CyberSauzee]

Missed the heel clipping, we just saw the 'push'. Thankfully it doesn't matter, Brother Beaton had a great game. Not as good as Iredale, but decent.

[JimBHibees]

I think it technically was a penalty, but, because Cadden put on a show of falling, it gave Beaton grounds for his decision not to award it.

That is when var should kick in

[Smartie]

Re the penalty - I didn’t think it was a penalty.

Plenty of contact but I thought Cadden was cleverly getting his body across to defender to initiate contact - which there was - but it didn’t constitute a foul.

I’ve not seen “the heel clip” that some folk say changes things tbf.

[JohnM1875]

Personally think Walsh is the best ref not a huge fan of Beaton his arrogance is overpowering

Fair enough, Jim! Slim pickings either way, right

[Carheenlea]

I've not seen it back but they ended up getting a potential penalty at the other end right away which was looked at.
It was another episode similar to last week where a lot of fans weren't sure who was actually getting a penalty looked at. Nobody round me had a clue and 4g phone signal was weak so couldn't get online for any help.

Agree with the sentiment though that he had a good game and let it flow the best he could.

[matty_f]

Penalty every day of the week, had his heal clipped and was then pushed in to the bargain, only Beaton will know why he never gave that as he had the perfect view of it, and if VAR never reviewed that then something not right, FFS Boyle got booked a few minutes later for the doing the exact same thing to a yam player.

I was just going to reference the Boyle one. Either both are bookings and fouls or neither are.

[Northernhibee]

What did he do to initiate it?

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Grabs the defenders shirt and falls over.

It’s never a penalty.

[Eyrie]

I was just going to reference the Boyle one. Either both are bookings and fouls or neither are.

I'd add the one in the first half where the Hearts RB flopped to the ground and grabbed the ball which was given as a foul to them because Bowie exhaled at the wrong moment.

[silverhibee]

I was just going to reference the Boyle one. Either both are bookings and fouls or neither are.

Beaton knows it’s a penalty and so do VAR, if folk don’t think it’s a penalty then there is nothing I can say to change there mind, it was 100% a penalty, NH says Cadden caused it, why did Beaton not book him for diving, yes we won the game but we shouldn’t let this one slide and use the Boyle incident as a comparison.

[silverhibee]

Grabs the defenders shirt and falls over.

It’s never a penalty.

Silly talk, penalty all day long

[Kato]

Plenty of contact but I thought Cadden was cleverly getting his body across to defender .

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He's allowed to do that. Clear ground in front of him to go forward.

It's up to the defender not to impede him after that.

Clipped his heels. Pen.



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[Skol]

I thought it was a penalty at the game, but hav8ngbseen the pictures on sportscene, it was a best a soft penalty. No complaints about the decision hav8ngbseen it now.

[Kato]

Grabs the defenders shirt and falls over.

It’s never a penalty.Just looked and saw that. You might be right but he still gets his heels clipped. It's not so much a grab at his shirt, more a pinch with his fingers.

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[SHODAN]

Who was the handball check for?

[JohnM1875]

Who was the handball check for?

Still no idea, but guessing it was for NMW block?

[Smartie]

He's allowed to do that. Clear ground in front of him to go forward.

It's up to the defender not to impede him after that.

Clipped his heels. Pen.



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The heels bit is the bit I need to see back as I didn’t really look at that on the replays I saw.

I agree that he’s entitled to get his body across and invite contact - it’s good play to do so.

Contact doesn’t mean it’s a penalty though and whilst there was plenty of contact between all the arms and upper body, I didn’t think there was enough to make it a foul anywhere on the pitch, or that he was “impeded”.

If there’s a foul in the contact on the heel - then I stand corrected.

[LaMotta]

Clip here in slow mo:

https://x.com/FellowsT1888/status/1896195959962698121

Thought it was a stonewaller first few watches with the heel clip. Sportscene analysis picked up on the Cadden shirt pull though, so can see why it wasn't given......

Actually worked out well - who knows if we get the pen and miss it, Hearts could go on to win the game.

[Gatecrasher]

Glad we didn't get the penalty, all you would hear about is VAR, we beat them straight up and there's no recourse.

I do think it was a penalty fwiw.

[Billy Whizz]

He did the simple things and let the game flow
Good ref performance

[Dueday]

His movement for our second goal was sublime.

[Northernhibee]

Clip here in slow mo:

https://x.com/FellowsT1888/status/1896195959962698121

Thought it was a stonewaller first few watches with the heel clip. Sportscene analysis picked up on the Cadden shirt pull though, so can see why it wasn't given......

Actually worked out well - who knows if we get the pen and miss it, Hearts could go on to win the game.
Seen it several times over now, never a penalty. We’d be screaming blue murder if it was given up the other end.

[CapitalGreen]

Not a penalty for me, would be fuming if similar was given against us up the other end.