New ticketing rules??

[Dibben]

Not seen it mentioned anywhere - but looks like some new rules for next season - although some were told it was from today which caused a fair bit of confusion.

From next year, U16s have to be accompanied by an adult (not sure how many kids per adult).

From today… U13s have to be accompanied by an adult.

I’m sure this will be clarified in due course!

[JohnM1875]

Ridiculous for U16, U13s I totally get.

Wonder how they’ll monitor it though? Stewards certainly won’t.

[04Sauzee]

Not seen it mentioned anywhere - but looks like some new rules for next season - although some were told it was from today which caused a fair bit of confusion.

From next year, U16s have to be accompanied by an adult (not sure how many kids per adult).

From today… U13s have to be accompanied by an adult.

I’m sure this will be clarified in due course!
Hadn't heard this
Heard Dumbarton were doing it for the remainder of the season but that was due to some bams in their support.

[Dibben]

Yeah, I do get the U13s rule.

The Stewards were upholding it in the FF lower today, which caused some grief, until it was finally cllarified.

[Chorley Hibee]

Loads of kids still being turned away as I speak.

Thousands of empty seats yet we're turning away a generation of kids who actually want to support the team.

Complete nonsense.

[snedzuk]

I just passed an argument at the FF between a steward and a fan about being under 16 - wondered what was going on.

[snedzuk]

Loads of kids still being turned away as I speak.

Thousands of empty seats yet we're turning away a generation of kids who actually want to support the team.

Complete nonsense.

This - I wouldn't be here today if I couldn't have gone aged 11. My Dad had no interest in football.

[Pretty Boy]

The under 13s rule can be annoying even if I get it.

I have a ST with my parents and daughter. My son is only 3 so if I want to take him I can't just buy him a stand alone ticket in the seat that is free right next to me. I've even gone into the TO to explain it and they won't budge.

He's getting a ST next season anyway so it's fine but in the meantime a bit common sense wouldn't go amiss for what must be very much a minority problem.

[Hibs90]

Is this a new rule or a rule that's always been in place?

[DH1875]

Ridiculous. I was 14/15 and going on my own. Here I am 30 years later having spent thousands over the years following Hibs. Imagine they had turned me and the many like me away. Mental

[snedzuk]

Not seen it mentioned anywhere - but looks like some new rules for next season - although some were told it was from today which caused a fair bit of confusion.

From next year, U16s have to be accompanied by an adult (not sure how many kids per adult).
From today… U13s have to be accompanied by an adult.

I’m sure this will be clarified in due course!

Does one Fagin get all of B7 in?

What if the adult is Jimmy Savile?

[Carheenlea]

You can’t change rules like that half way through a season and I did see the security guy round there as we came round so maybe connected with some issues with over zealous stewards.

Block Seven all appear to have got in - maybe the elderly guy accounted for them all.

[LunasBoots]

Thats brutal

[lyonhibs]

U16 rule is absolutely absurd. U13 I can understand.

[greenlex]

The under 13s rule can be annoying even if I get it.

I have a ST with my parents and daughter. My son is only 3 so if I want to take him I can't just buy him a stand alone ticket in the seat that is free right next to me. I've even gone into the TO to explain it and they won't budge.

He's getting a ST next season anyway so it's fine but in the meantime a bit common sense wouldn't go amiss for what must be very much a minority problem.
Possibly the most stupid and ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard Hibs do.

[surreyhibbie]

This - I wouldn't be here today if I couldn't have gone aged 11. My Dad had no interest in football.

Me too, aged 11. Accompanied by an older guy, he was nearly 13!

[Chorley Hibee]

One particular female Hibs official was particularly over officious, her attitude was a disgrace to be honest.

I went to countless games on my own as U16.

A great idea when trying to entice the next generation of support.

Idiots.

[StirlingHibee]

If this is true then it's ridiculous. Like similar posts my father wasn't into Football so I started going with my pals aged 14. Got on the bus from Corstorphine and off we went. It was great to have that little bit of independence and be trusted to go out into the real world. I guess it's the world we're living in these days.

[Itsnoteasy]

Does one Fagin get all of B7 in?

What if the adult is Jimmy Savile?

Well that would be a miracle, he's deed.

[DH1875]

If it's not in the terms and conditions when the tickets went on sale how can they bring it in halfway through the season?????

[jonny]

My 2 boys are there today, normally go together but I'm not well.
One is 13 and one is 15. They said they were arguing with a steward until a random guy butted in and said he was their uncle to get them in. No idea who the random was but if on here thank you.
They've been going themselves frequently this year as my health hasn't been the best, this is the first time there's been any issues.
If Hibs were changing the policy then it should've been more widely advertised. If it's an old policy that's now only being enforced the same comms should've gone out to the support.

[LunasBoots]

How to put of the next generation of fans..

[Keith_M]

Ridiculous. I was 14/15 and going on my own. Here I am 30 years later having spent thousands over the years following Hibs. Imagine they had turned me and the many like me away. Mental


I was 13 when I first went to Easter Road. After years of begging/moaning, my Dad finally got round to taking me.

After that I was hooked and started going on my own at 13, as nobody would take me (my Dad probably felt he'd done his bit with the one game).

I'm so glad they didn't have such ridiculous rules then, :rolleyes:

[southern hibby]

I might be wrong here but will Hibs actually enforce it?

It might be a case of if anything ever happens at the football to a juvenile then Hibs can say we are in no way responsible for this kid or kids, because we had these rules in place. Not our fault that kid was at the game without an adult.

I started going home around 10 and away about 11. I went with older mates who themselves were not adults.


GGTTH

[lyonhibs]

One particular female Hibs official was particularly over officious, her attitude was a disgrace to be honest.

I went to countless games on my own as U16.

A great idea when trying to entice the next generation of support.

Idiots.

If this is something Hibs have cooked up of their own volition, as opposed to complying with some new law, then the U16 rule needs rolled back pronto. Horrendous PR, did none of the suits ever go to the football when they were lads/lasses??

[Helensburghhibs]

We need to get the word around the young team that all of us random adults can adopt them any time for the sake of the turnstile

[DH1875]

I might be wrong here but will Hibs actually enforce it?

It might be a case of if anything ever happens at the football to a juvenile then Hibs can say we are in no way responsible for this kid or kids, because we had these rules in place. Not our fault that kid was at the game without an adult.

I started going home around 10 and away about 11. I went with older mates who themselves were not adults.


GGTTH

Is the problem not that they were enforcing it today?
Hope none of them missed out today. Imagine if you had a season ticket all season and then rocked up today to be told you can't get in and you missed it.
I still no idea how you can introduce this halfway through a season when folk have already bought and have been using their ticket.

[MikeyS]

One particular female Hibs official was particularly over officious, her attitude was a disgrace to be honest.

I went to countless games on my own as U16.

A great idea when trying to entice the next generation of support.

Idiots.


Was that at turnstile 30 - 32 for the FF upper by any chance? She was going tonto at some wee lads when I arrived but I wanst sure of the issue til I heard one try to tell her comes every week on his own so whys it different now.

[Speedy]

Terrible decision by whoever made this rule.

Do we still have a fans rep who can raise the issue and/or explain why it is in place?

[blackpoolhibs]

Unless there was prior warning, what a stupid way to inforce a new rule?

Christ i dread to think what age i first went to Easter Rd on my own, in far scarier times?

[Itsnoteasy]

At least enforce it at beginning of new season. Still a ridiculous decision.

[GreenCastle]

Was this even communicated?
Surely young kids weren’t turning up on own and being denied entry then left outside the ground on own.

[joe breezy]

It’s a ridiculous rule
Should be rescinded immediately


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[Chorley Hibee]

Was this even communicated?
Surely young kids weren’t turning up on own and being denied entry then outside the ground ?

Exactly what was happening.

[bingo70]

Was this even communicated?
Surely young kids weren’t turning up on own and being denied entry then outside the ground ?

Yes. That’s what was happening.

It’s an inconvenience for me and my boy as I go for a pint before games and my boy goes to the ground earlier. He’ll just need tk stay with me in the pub for longer now.

I’m not sure what problem this is solving?

[JohnM1875]

Was this even communicated?
Surely young kids weren’t turning up on own and being denied entry then outside the ground ?

****ing shambles.

[lapsedhibee]

Me too, aged 11. Accompanied by an older guy, he was nearly 13!

Me too, aged 11. But accompanied by two people, one 11 and the other 12.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Sure you’ve not been able to buy an U13 ticket in isolation for ages? U16 is ridiculous though

[jonny]

Was this even communicated?
Surely young kids weren’t turning up on own and being denied entry then outside the ground ?

Yes. My 13 year old was refused entry after his older brother's had already gone in.
Another supporter saw what happened and took him in another gate.
I've written an email of complaint to the club.

[snedzuk]

Yes. My 13 year old was refused entry after his older brother's had already gone in.
Another supporter saw what happened and took him in another gate.
I've written an email of complaint to the club.

Please reply to this thread to let us know what happens.

[Broken Gnome]

Can this be one of these simple things that Hibs offer some clear information on, rather than stay silent and let it all escalate into drama?

[jacomo]

Ridiculous. I was 14/15 and going on my own. Here I am 30 years later having spent thousands over the years following Hibs. Imagine they had turned me and the many like me away. Mental


:agree:

[jonny]

Please reply to this thread to let us know what happens.

I will do pal.
I was pretty angry when he told me as he's been with his brother's numerous times this season without me with no issues whatsoever.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Absolute idiocy, I go with two U16s, who almost never go through the turnstiles at same time as me.

[Paul1642]

Terrible decision. The under 13s makes sense but under 16s is bizarre, mainly because I’m not aware of any incidents whatsoever that have been the catalyst for this.

I used to love a game with my mates when I was 14 / 15.

[H18 SFR]

Some unfortunate youngsters from single parent families where their parent is perhaps working 6/7 days a week to keep a roof over their head now can’t go to games alone.

Quite honestly disgusting.

Perhaps some fans with the time to do it could put together a network to get these future adult supporters into the ground on
Match days. Simply bizarre this is even needed.

[southern hibby]

Is the problem not that they were enforcing it today?
Hope none of them missed out today. Imagine if you had a season ticket all season and then rocked up today to be told you can't get in and you missed it.
I still no idea how you can introduce this halfway through a season when folk have already bought and have been using their ticket.

Reading the comments it would appear so.

GGTTH

[Bridge hibs]

So a 15 yo laddie with his 1 yo Son would get turned away ? ****ing shocking hibs, thats your next generation of supporters you are turning down 🤬

[LancashireHibby]

For what it’s worth, this is very much not specific to Hibs and will be very similar at most clubs if you do a bit of digging. All in the name of safeguarding.

Commonly it was previously a case of U12s having to be accompanied - if a kid can take themselves to secondary school then they can make it to the match - but there has been a shift over the last 6-12 months where ground admission rules have been changed to U16.

Not something I agree with - like many on here, my football journey began by attending unaccompanied with my mates - but just wanted to offer a different perspective as my workplace did an identical policy shift last year.

[Hibby70]

Be interesting to see what the clubs thinking is behind this decision for next season (assuming today was someone jumping the gun).

Is it insurance related, licensing related, or have they had incidents this season to push this?

[darwenhibby]

Yes it might be time to set up a group that can accompany these young supporters into the ground.
As folk say it’s the next generation of Hibs supporters
I was 15 before I was allowed to go to the football on my own and I hated it when all my pal’s could go from about 11.
I let my kids go on their own to football from a young age so they didn’t miss out on what I did.

[DH1875]

For what it’s worth, this is very much not specific to Hibs and will be very similar at most clubs if you do a bit of digging. All in the name of safeguarding.

Commonly it was previously a case of U12s having to be accompanied - if a kid can take themselves to secondary school then they can make it to the match - but there has been a shift over the last 6-12 months where ground admission rules have been changed to U16.

Not something I agree with - like many on here, my football journey began by attending unaccompanied with my mates - but just wanted to offer a different perspective as my workplace did an identical policy shift last year.

If their bringing it in then they bring it at start of the season when season tickets go on sale and it states in the terms and conditions that U16s must be accompanied.
You can't implement it halfway through the season 7 months AFTER these kids have had their tickets.

[Up-the-slope]

Let me get this right.... there was concern that unaccompanied 'minors' might be at risk if let into the ground on their own (even although there are multiple stewards on hand )

(Many of these may have been dropped off by parents / guardians who had no knowledge of this unannounced change / enforcement)

So the solution is to deny them entry to ground and leave them out on the street on their own :rolleyes:


I'm sure Power will be able to shed some light on this

[Groathillgrump]

Ridiculous rule.

I went to a pre-season friendly against West Brom in 1972 on my own and I never went to a game with an adult again after that. I was 10 years old.

Started going to away matches with my pals when I was 13 and I've survived to tell the tale. :greengrin

[JohnM1875]

The whole thing is mental and I don't get the point in it.

Some of my best memories are going to games with my mates in secondary. O'Conor winner after the Brebner red a stand out. You take that away you kill a future fanbase.

Really hope they rethink this.

[TrinityHFC]

Well that would be a miracle, he's deed.

I’m sleeping soundly in my bed ‘cos Jimmy Saville’s still dead.

[wookie70]

I started goingto ER with a small group of kids from my street when I was 11. A couple were probably 13 or 14. Walked to game and back and this was 1979/80 when it was much wilder than now. I was also going to see Stiff Little Fingers and The Stranglers etc with a similar group from 12. By 13 I was going away to Hibs games sometimes on the train on my own or with mates. I would argue it is far safer now with phones with maps and ability to send money to a kid if they are stuck etc. Are under 13s causing bother. I would say having a kids area, where they can enter on their own, would be a good idea but that won't happen since B7 moved. So much room in the FFL now as it is the quietest it has been for a long time in terms of numbers of supporters

[LancashireHibby]

If their bringing it in then they bring it at start of the season when season tickets go on sale and it states in the terms and conditions that U16s must be accompanied.
You can't implement it halfway through the season 7 months AFTER these kids have had their tickets.

Where I work attempted to bring it in mid-season and we pointed out the ridiculousness of such a move (and got it pushed back to the following season)

[jonny]

I'm just off the phone with Stevie Haslett from Hibs who responded to an Email I'd sent regarding my boys being refused entry on Saturday.
Fair play to him and the club for taking the time to call and discuss the issue as opposed to just fobbing me off with an email.

He said that on Saturday there was a breakdown in communication between Hibs and the stewards and that nobody should have been refused entry.
Anyone that has tickets will be admitted for the rest of the season regardless of their age.
He's said as of next season the terms are changing so that any person under 16 will have to be accompanied by a person over 16 to gain entry. He explained the reason for this is that the last 6 times pyros have been thrown onto the pitch it's been by young kids (as young as 10) with no parents around. There's also been other issues whereby the clubs child protection officer has had to be involved, again with no parents around. He said that quite often when Edinburgh City don't have a game the kids who follow them have been getting adults to get them tickets for Easter Road and causing some issues.
He's aware the change won't go down well with everyone but for the purposes of child protection the club feel it's a necessary step. He's either had a conversation or will be having a conversation with reps from Block 7 to make them aware as well.

[Chorley Hibee]

I'm just off the phone with Stevie Haslett from Hibs who responded to an Email I'd sent regarding my boys being refused entry on Saturday.
Fair play to him and the club for taking the time to call and discuss the issue as opposed to just fobbing me off with an email.

He said that on Saturday there was a breakdown in communication between Hibs and the stewards and that nobody should have been refused entry.
Anyone that has tickets will be admitted for the rest of the season regardless of their age.
He's said as of next season the terms are changing so that any person under 16 will have to be accompanied by a person over 16 to gain entry. He explained the reason for this is that the last 6 times pyros have been thrown onto the pitch it's been by young kids (as young as 10) with no parents around. There's also been other issues whereby the clubs child protection officer has had to be involved, again with no parents around. He said that quite often when Edinburgh City don't have a game the kids who follow them have been getting adults to get them tickets for Easter Road and causing some issues.
He's aware the change won't go down well with everyone but for the purposes of child protection the club feel it's a necessary step. He's either had a conversation or will be having a conversation with reps from Block 7 to make them aware as well.

Thanks for the update.

However, I witnessed a female Hibs official, working alongside stewards, refuse entry to numerous children.

So if there was a breakdown in communication between the club and the stewards, why was she openly facilitating this policy?

[Hibernian Verse]

Thanks for the update.

However, I witnessed a female Hibs official, working alongside stewards, refuse entry to numerous children.

So if there was a breakdown in communication between the club and the stewards, why was she openly facilitating this policy?

Would it not be best to also email the club and bring this to their attention?

[PatHead]

There's an article on Facebook following the refusal of entry to 2 under 16s on Saturday.
It says it was a mistake but as of next season under 16s must be accompanied by an adult due to problems with pyros and youngsters.
Don't think this is a good idea as it was almost a right of passage moving on to going with your pals when you were in your teens.
Might discourage the next generation and kill the singing section.

[green day]

I'm not convinced about the professionalism of our stewards, so I would expect this policy to be implemented in a patchy way.

On Saturday, at HT a woman was remonstrating with a steward in the West Upper - she was telling him about a middle aged guy (who was as drunk as anyone I have ever seen at football) who had fallen down the steps a few times, cut his face, and frankly shouldnt have been allowed in.

She was telling him that the guy needed ejected for his own safety - the steward just kept nodding at her - she said "do you understand what I am saying" and he nodded and did nothing.

She left frustrated and nothing had happened - I dont think the steward had a great command of English (which I would think is a prerequisite).

When I came back from the toilets, the guy was still in the ground - standing just in front of the same steward (:rolleyes:), swaying at the barriers, making a valiant attempt at mashing a pie into his face.

[Greenio]

So two fifteen your old pals can no longer go to the football together?

Not sure that's right

U14 maybe

[Hibby70]

If we are stopping u16s in unaccompanied due to a few of them throwing flares then we probably need to up that limit to U35s.

It seems like an extreme measure to counter poor stewarding and policing to me.

[greenginger]

I'm just off the phone with Stevie Haslett from Hibs who responded to an Email I'd sent regarding my boys being refused entry on Saturday.
Fair play to him and the club for taking the time to call and discuss the issue as opposed to just fobbing me off with an email.

He said that on Saturday there was a breakdown in communication between Hibs and the stewards and that nobody should have been refused entry.
Anyone that has tickets will be admitted for the rest of the season regardless of their age.
He's said as of next season the terms are changing so that any person under 16 will have to be accompanied by a person over 16 to gain entry. He explained the reason for this is that the last 6 times pyros have been thrown onto the pitch it's been by young kids (as young as 10) with no parents around. There's also been other issues whereby the clubs child protection officer has had to be involved, again with no parents around. He said that quite often when Edinburgh City don't have a game the kids who follow them have been getting adults to get them tickets for Easter Road and causing some issues.
He's aware the change won't go down well with everyone but for the purposes of child protection the club feel it's a necessary step. He's either had a conversation or will be having a conversation with reps from Block 7 to make them aware as well.

So , next season a 15 year old will need to go into the ground with a 16+ year old.

Youngsters can just hang around at the gates and say can I come in with you to any older person.

Modern day equivalent of “ lift us over mister “

[Ronniekirk]

I went to games from Fife on my own from the age of 13 myself as my Father took me to one European Game and would nt take me again as couldn’t afford to so I got lots of jobs milk round ,washing dishes in a bakers , delivering leaflets , skinning rabbits in a pet shop to name a few
I loved the trios through on the steam train , it was an adventure
I appreciate things have changed but younger supporters are the future of the club
If it’s about the pyro s issue ban them

[Trinity Hibee]

I went to games from Fife on my own from the age of 13 myself as my Father took me to one European Game and would nt take me again as couldn’t afford to so I got lots of jobs milk round ,washing dishes in a bakers , delivering leaflets , skinning rabbits in a pet shop to name a few
I loved the trios through on the steam train , it was an adventure
I appreciate things have changed but younger supporters are the future of the club
If it’s about the pyro s issue ban them

100%

[Numptie]

This is one of those - has the world gone mad - situations. You have a small problem and the solution is to ban under 16s from single entry. My daughter (now 16) always went to the games with her friends - they didn't want me anywhere near them. If I'm at a game and a 14 year old asks me to vouch for them I will. This is all part of the demonization of kids, as if I wasn't a complete idiot when I was 14!!! Kids are the future supporters and those that go in groups and go to Block 7 or wherever are the future main supporters of the club.

[Chorley Hibee]

I think there needs to be a bit of push back from the support in general in regards to this nonsensical decision.

We're hurting the future of our club with this stupidity.

Deal with the individual issues and don't apply a one size fits all solution.

[WeAreHibs]

I think there needs to be a bit of push back from the support in general in regards to this nonsensical decision.

We're hurting the future of our club with this stupidity.

Deal with the individual issues and don't apply a one size fits all solution.

Totally agree!

[HarpOnHibee]

Wee radges and absent parents ruining it for the more sensible youngsters. It's unfortunate, but can see why the club have done this.

[superfurryhibby]

I think there needs to be a bit of push back from the support in general in regards to this nonsensical decision.

We're hurting the future of our club with this stupidity.

Deal with the individual issues and don't apply a one size fits all solution.

Totally agree, it risks alienating our younger supporters. I was going to watch Hibs on my own, from the age of eight. That was the days of open terraces and no segregation. Times have changed etc, but saying no unaccompanied under 16's, that's a nonsense.

[Scouse Hibee]

I'm not convinced about the professionalism of our stewards, so I would expect this policy to be implemented in a patchy way.

On Saturday, at HT a woman was remonstrating with a steward in the West Upper - she was telling him about a middle aged guy (who was as drunk as anyone I have ever seen at football) who had fallen down the steps a few times, cut his face, and frankly shouldnt have been allowed in.

She was telling him that the guy needed ejected for his own safety - the steward just kept nodding at her - she said "do you understand what I am saying" and he nodded and did nothing.

She left frustrated and nothing had happened - I dont think the steward had a great command of English (which I would think is a prerequisite).

When I came back from the toilets, the guy was still in the ground - standing just in front of the same steward (:rolleyes:), swaying at the barriers, making a valiant attempt at mashing a pie into his face.

I mentioned this guy on the Pet Peeves thread, earlier had a half bottle of Whisky taken off him and moved from someone’s seat.

[Groathillgrump]

Just giving this thread a wee bump as there are two new threads on the same subject on the message board.

[Bishop Hibee]

U16 rule is absolutely absurd. U13 I can understand.

Absolutely this. My dad had a season ticket in the old North Stand so I couldn’t go with him. Went with my mates. Ridiculous rule for 13-15 year olds.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think there needs to be a bit of push back from the support in general in regards to this nonsensical decision.

We're hurting the future of our club with this stupidity.

Deal with the individual issues and don't apply a one size fits all solution.

Absolutely. Needs to be rammed into them at the AGM that this is ridiculous and threatening the future support of the club.

[Jock O]

The article I read referred to safeguarding issues due to having to deal with incidents involving children U16 with no parents there. I don't think this is as black and white as you are making out, but agree it would be good for the club to explain their issues and for maybe some consultation to ensure they don't cause avoidable side effects that impact us.

Also not sure we are the only club doing this, sure I read it somewhere else for similar reasons.

[JimBHibees]

So two fifteen your old pals can no longer go to the football together?

Not sure that's right

U14 maybe

Seems mental

[blackpoolhibs]

Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut rule, why not just deal with the problem, if someone throws anything on the park, deal with it.:confused:

[snedzuk]

I'm just off the phone with Stevie Haslett from Hibs who responded to an Email I'd sent regarding my boys being refused entry on Saturday.
Fair play to him and the club for taking the time to call and discuss the issue as opposed to just fobbing me off with an email.

He said that on Saturday there was a breakdown in communication between Hibs and the stewards and that nobody should have been refused entry.
Anyone that has tickets will be admitted for the rest of the season regardless of their age.
He's said as of next season the terms are changing so that any person under 16 will have to be accompanied by a person over 16 to gain entry. He explained the reason for this is that the last 6 times pyros have been thrown onto the pitch it's been by young kids (as young as 10) with no parents around. There's also been other issues whereby the clubs child protection officer has had to be involved, again with no parents around. He said that quite often when Edinburgh City don't have a game the kids who follow them have been getting adults to get them tickets for Easter Road and causing some issues.
He's aware the change won't go down well with everyone but for the purposes of child protection the club feel it's a necessary step. He's either had a conversation or will be having a conversation with reps from Block 7 to make them aware as well.

Thanks Jonny

I'm 50 years too late for this and have no kids (or grand kids) affected, but because of my path to getting into Hibs in the first place I feel really animated about this. Fair play that the club called you, but that explanation is brutal. Surely if you find someone throwing a pyro, you ban that person. They must have found them to know they are under 16, otherwise why not ban U17s or some other arbitrary age.

Additionally, if the 'rule' is targeted at trouble and you can get in with an over 16, then trouble makers will easily find a way around this whereas decent kids will say that's the rule and I'll need to abide by it.

The equivalent of what's being suggested here is this. Say an adult of 45 throws something at a game. Ban all under 45s. It's so stupid, I can't believe there isn't more to it, but any blanket ban is just mad. And as has been said elsewhere, it would be enforced patchily plus how does one steward verify the age of the individual.

Will under 16s still be able to go to, say, St Mirren and throw pyro, if they don't have such a ban.

If allowable (admins?), could a contact email be put on this thread for the chap that replied to you? Otherwise (or as well as) contacting Kieron Power about this.

Thanks again for replying.

[Chorley Hibee]

Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut rule, why not just deal with the problem, if someone throws anything on the park, deal with it.:confused:

Nobody wanting to take responsibility for this (police included) so much easier to just bring in these over the top policies to save the effort.

The lazy approach adopted by all the authorities surrounding football.

[JimBHibees]

There's an article on Facebook following the refusal of entry to 2 under 16s on Saturday.
It says it was a mistake but as of next season under 16s must be accompanied by an adult due to problems with pyros and youngsters.
Don't think this is a good idea as it was almost a right of passage moving on to going with your pals when you were in your teens.
Might discourage the next generation and kill the singing section.

Are any other clubs doing this? If not seems completely self defeating and disproportionate to in effect punish the vast majority of people of that age who just want to come along and support the team they love

[hibee]

This sounds like the equivalent of giving the whole primary school class a detention to save them dealing with the actual troublemaker!

If block 7 hadn’t been given their own area where lots of the under 16’s now congregate would we even be hearing about this rule, I doubt it.

As others have said, the kids causing the trouble will still get in, it will only be the responsible kids who are disadvantaged by this.

[flash]

I watched loads of games before I was 16 with my mates and no adults.

This seems completely disproportionate to the actual issue.

[marinello59]

We should all be emailing the club telling them how we feel about this. It’s a ridiculous decision.

[I'm_cabbaged]

As many have said, I was home and away by myself from 13, me and my mate used to skive school to ball boy the reserve games and no one batted an eyelid!! (Apart from my dad when he found out 🤣)