Out of contract Hibs players

[Donegal Hibby]

There’s a few players we have that are coming out of contract that are rightly getting praise for their performances on different threads like Boyle , Rocky ,Cadden etc ..

Which got me thinking does this mean folk would like to see some of them stay? Which might cut down the size of the rebuilding job we have to do in the summer a bit that might also save a bit of money that could help in recruiting better or equally as good players?

[sleeping giant]

Think we have 1 years option with Boyle anyway.
I would keep those 3 absolutely.

[Ozyhibby]

I’d be happy enough with all three staying but Boyle and Cadden maybe need more team friendly deals.


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[we are hibs]

Id keep Boyle. That's the only one. We still need a major rebuild in the summer.

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[Paul1642]

Rocky has been fantastic this season. If he wants to stay then we’d should 100% be pursuing an extension.

[Cat Stanton]

I’d be happy enough with all three staying but Boyle and Cadden maybe need more team friendly deals.


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Genuine question - what do you mean by a 'team friendly deal'?

[MacGruber]

All earned new deals IMO

[Ozyhibby]

Genuine question - what do you mean by a 'team friendly deal'?

Cheaper. Both are past their peak and so should also be coming down from their peak earning potential.


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[Donegal Hibby]

Id keep Boyle. That's the only one. We still need a major rebuild in the summer.

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A major rebuild will probably cost money though and the bigger the rebuild the more it could cost . I think if we could keep possibly 3/4 of the players that are playing well like Rocky etc it would save some money while still having a fairly good rebuild with clearing out players that aren’t contributing and then adding some quality ones to make the competition for places in the first team even harder , stronger bench too with more options .. honestly think if we keep a few it’s a win win situation for the club.

[The Modfather]

Boyle worth another year or two on reduced term. Would be happy enough with another year for Rocky, possibly as backup. Think RWB is one of our weakest areas and would be moving on both Cadden & Miller.

[PHeffernan]

Cheaper. Both are past their peak and so should also be coming down from their peak earning potential.


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I think only Boyle, of the OOC players, is on daft money but the club might decide it is worth taking up their year option on him rather than gambling on a replacement.
At 32 in April he will have a year left in the tank at his current level.
Hibs have all his running numbers etc so they can make an informed decision.

[cubehindthegoal]

Cheaper. Both are past their peak and so should also be coming down from their peak earning potential.


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He may also be able to negotiate a pretty good deal and lifestyle in Australia, as an International cap there, and if that’s his goal to take him into retirement, we may not have the choice …. depends I guess on his and his families ambitions, and lifestyle choices, for the next few years … it’s not all about our club for Martin at this stage I would think. Very happy if he stays another year though … and I also wonder, if we finished third with the this pool of players, then what does that mean for us ? Mind you, Hearts did that last year, and have had to rebuild this window … perhaps we need to make sure we keep improving, not settle on what we have.

[Leitherhibs]

It's very unlikely at the age they're at that Rocky and Miller would be keen on 1 year extensions.

You either commit to them, or let them go, that's the 2 options.

[PHeffernan]

Think we have 1 years option with Boyle anyway.
I would keep those 3 absolutely.

Hibs have a years option on Miller as well as Boyle

[cubehindthegoal]

Hibs have a years option on Miller as well as Cadden

If we have that option on Boyle, then I’d say he has shown enough this year that another year would be worth it for us. However, if he really wishes to leave and emigrate with his family, I wouldn't want us to stand in his way.

[PHeffernan]

Boyle worth another year or two on reduced term. Would be happy enough with another year for Rocky, possibly as backup. Think RWB is one of our weakest areas and would be moving on both Cadden & Miller.

Fair to say the 4 players highlighted above are the senior players Hibs need to make contract decisions on.
They have year options on two with Bushiri and Cadden able to move on regardless, if they so wish.

Hoilett and Gayle won't be renewed due to age, Amos due to fitness, McKirdy because he's not good enough and Boruc because he has not been able to break through. All loans will naturally return to their parent clubs.
The young players is a whole other discussion with McAllister, Zaid, McClelland etc out of contract.

[PHeffernan]

If we have that option on Boyle, then I’d say he has shown enough this year that another year would be worth it for us. However, if he really wishes to leave and emigrate with his family, I wouldn't want us to stand in his way.

I think the way Boyle has been running his bollocks off for the last 6 weeks would indicate he wants to do everything in his power to get Hibs to trigger the years option on his contract.
The reality is he would be very lucky at 32 to get a contract in Australia on half the money Hibs pay him.

[Donegal Hibby]

Campbell is wrong on this as he’s contracted to 2027 .

The four loan players will return to their parent clubs , only one of them would be worth keeping and if we kept Boyle , Rocky , Cadden and Miller there’s 7/8 players who can leave ….

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[PHeffernan]

Campbell is wrong on this as he’s contracted to 2027 .

The four loan players will return to their parent clubs , only one of them would be worth keeping and if we kept Boyle , Rocky , Cadden and Miller there’s 7/8 players who can leave ….

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All Hibs OOC players covered in post #16 above.

Re Triantes, I suspect we won't see him again after May.
Sunderland will be aware of how well he is progressing and at only 21 he is a real prospect.
Could see him playing in the English Championship next season.
Reckon Sunderland will value him at circa 700k in the summer if they agree to sell him.

[cubehindthegoal]

I think the way Boyle has been running his bollocks off for the last 6 weeks would indicate he wants to do everything in his power to get Hibs to trigger the years option on his contract.
The reality is he would be very lucky at 32 to get a contract in Australia on half the money Hibs pay him.

Hope so, if we do start to bring in quality and not quantity this summer, and build stronger, then he could be good quality to have around. Not sure about the bigger picture for him, his family, the standard of living in Oz as you come to think about retiral, and also his status as an international over there, and what doors that may open in the next few years for them, depending on their personal and family future ambitions …

[Donegal Hibby]

All Hibs OOC players covered in post #16 above.

Re Triantes, I suspect we won't see him again after May.
Sunderland will be aware of how well he is progressing and at only 21 he is a real prospect.
Could see him playing in the English Championship next season.
Reckon Sunderland will value him at circa 700k in the summer if they agree to sell him.

Thanks, I think it will depend if Sunderland get promoted or not on Triantis and even if he was valued at the fee we were rumoured to be willing to to pay for McCowan I still think he’d be worth it .

[PHeffernan]

Thanks, I think it will depend if Sunderland get promoted or not on Triantis and even if he was valued at the fee we were rumoured to be willing to to pay for McCowan I still think he’d be worth it .

He's really playing well at the moment and is a big part of our teams improvement which at only 21 is very impressive.
I can't see us being willing to pay the money we offered for McCowan but are bound to be interested.
Another issue could be the player and his representatives ambitions. As ever time will tell.

[B.H.F.C]

All earned new deals IMO

Bit to go before we say that IMO. We’ve had a good couple of months but a number of the players who have been playing and are out of contract, have been poor for long spells before that.

Boyle if we can keep, I would. As long as the deal is all right. Rocky is giving himself a chance of a deal (I’d have been dead against that not so long ago and still need a bit of convincing). Cadden would still be a no from me at the moment. There is no other out of contract player I’d even contemplate keeping.

[NC1875]

He's really playing well at the moment and is a big part of our teams improvement which at only 21 is very impressive.
I can't see us being willing to pay the money we offered for McCowan but are bound to be interested.
Another issue could be the player and his representatives ambitions. As ever time will tell.

Talk at the game yesterday was that Sunderland are willing to sell but Triantis wants a chance to prove himself at Sunderland so is in no hurry to leave.

[Northernhibee]

Chris Cadden is a no brainer yes from me. Even if we bring in another quality RB he’s still every bit good enough to continue to contribute well to the first team.

[jonny]

All Hibs OOC players covered in post #16 above.

Re Triantes, I suspect we won't see him again after May.
Sunderland will be aware of how well he is progressing and at only 21 he is a real prospect.
Could see him playing in the English Championship next season.
Reckon Sunderland will value him at circa 700k in the summer if they agree to sell him.

I'd take him at that price. Probably a big chunk of our available funds but at 21 he could have another 2 or 3 good years and still have a high market value for selling on.

[Forza Fred]

Talk at the game yesterday was that Sunderland are willing to sell but Triantis wants a chance to prove himself at Sunderland so is in no hurry to leave.

Has anyone seen any evidence that Sunderland are willing to sell Triantis?

[s.a.m]

Talk at the game yesterday was that Sunderland are willing to sell but Triantis wants a chance to prove himself at Sunderland so is in no hurry to leave.

There's a newspaper article somewhere of Triantis saying his choice is to prove himself at Sunderland. Maybe we can hope that playing in front of a crowd of fans who appreciate him might help??

[eastmainsmsh]

Look at Mayenda sure Triantis will be keen to impress

[where'stheslope]

Has anyone seen any evidence that Sunderland are willing to sell Triantis?
This is the biggest problem with loanees, you get them in, get them playing well, and the parent club either ups the selling price or takes him back.
Either way we do the work and they reap the benefits.

[PHeffernan]

This is the biggest problem with loanees, you get them in, get them playing well, and the parent club either ups the selling price or takes him back.
Either way we do the work and they reap the benefits.

But getting players on loan also takes the risk away.
Imagine we had bought all this seasons loan players. We would have wasted a fortune on fees and would be stuck with all 4 for the next few years on big money.

[kentao]

Rocky 5 year deal please :)

[HIBS NUTS]

Rocky 5 year deal please :)
I think we have a years option on his current deal

[IberianHibernian]

Rocky 5 year deal please :)If only . Seems like we`ll be lucky if he stays for another year . I thought he was a great signing when he first arrived . Maloney knew him from Belgium Under 21 team and deserves great credit for the signing . Given his age and strength he seemed like a great signing and so it`s proved . Given his contractual situation doubt we`ll make much if anything when he leaves but suspect he`ll be involved in some big transfers in the future .

[Stevie Reid]

If only . Seems like we`ll be lucky if he stays for another year . I thought he was a great signing when he first arrived . Maloney knew him from Belgium Under 21 team and deserves great credit for the signing . Given his age and strength he seemed like a great signing and so it`s proved . Given his contractual situation doubt we`ll make much if anything when he leaves but suspect he`ll be involved in some big transfers in the future .

I really like Rocky as a character and he’s had a really good few months, and played a big part in our resurgence.

He cannot be described as a great signing though.

[Golden Bear]

I really like Rocky as a character and he’s had a really good few months, and played a big part in our resurgence.

He cannot be described as a great signing though.

He most definitely can! Apart from anything else his transfer value will make us a good few million when and if he decides to move on.

[GreenCastle]

Do we think not having a CEO in place will be an issue with extending contracts?

[jeffers]

Do we think not having a CEO in place will be an issue with extending contracts?

No.

[Ribs1875]

I really like Rocky as a character and he’s had a really good few months, and played a big part in our resurgence.

He cannot be described as a great signing though.

He actually has shown he is a good player to have. He has improved and to be honest we could lose him and risk signing a complete dud replacement. At least we know what we get with him and he is only 25, therefore lots of time to improve.

[Stevie Reid]

He actually has shown he is a good player to have. He has improved and to be honest we could lose him and risk signing a complete dud replacement. At least we know what we get with him and he is only 25, therefore lots of time to improve.

I agree with most of that, and I’d be pretty happy for him to stay at this moment in time.

If he keeps this form up until the end of the season then I’d maybe feel happy to say we know what we’re getting with him - for me it’s only in the last few weeks that the positives have finally outweighed the negatives in his Hibs career. That’s also coincided with him finally being able to make the most of the attributes that he has.

As I said, there’s a lot I like about him. I was just taking issue with him being described as a great signing. If he truly had been, every single person on this board would be desperate for him to stay.

[Northernhibee]

I’d take Boyle for another couple of years but on reduced terms.

Rocky yes, Chris Cadden yes.

[Stevie Reid]

I’d take Boyle for another couple of years but on reduced terms.

Rocky yes, Chris Cadden yes.

Cadden is a definite yes for me also, and much more on board with Rocky signing now.

Terms will definitely be an issue for Boyle, as he’ll need to accept a hell of a drop to stay here. Probably at an age where one year contracts make the most sense for us, but least for him.

If he gets offered more security elsewhere I think he’ll go, but it’ll be a sad day.

[Nicho87]

Boyle, Rocky, Cadden

In that order of preference

The rest i would thank for their efforts but think we can do better

[PHeffernan]

He most definitely can! Apart from anything else his transfer value will make us a good few million when and if he decides to move on.

Bushiri is out of contract in less than 4 months so as things stand we will make nothing if he decides to move on.

[Eyrie]

Cadden is a definite yes for me also, and much more on board with Rocky signing now.

Terms will definitely be an issue for Boyle, as he’ll need to accept a hell of a drop to stay here. Probably at an age where one year contracts make the most sense for us, but least for him.

If he gets offered more security elsewhere I think he’ll go, but it’ll be a sad day.

I'd exercise the one year option on Boyle.

[1875Sean]

I'd exercise the one year option on Boyle.

Don’t think we can afford to on his current wages

[Paulie Walnuts]

Don’t think we can afford to on his current wages

I’m not sure we can afford not to. We’re never filling the gap he’d leave for cheaper.

[The Modfather]

I agree with most of that, and I’d be pretty happy for him to stay at this moment in time.

If he keeps this form up until the end of the season then I’d maybe feel happy to say we know what we’re getting with him - for me it’s only in the last few weeks that the positives have finally outweighed the negatives in his Hibs career. That’s also coincided with him finally being able to make the most of the attributes that he has.

As I said, there’s a lot I like about him. I was just taking issue with him being described as a great signing. If he truly had been, every single person on this board would be desperate for him to stay.

I agree with most of this. I’ve always liked Rocky, but only recently thought he has done enough to be part of the rebuild.

One mitigation there’s always been in Rocky’s favour is that it’s him that has always had to play on his wrong side, and in a 2. For example, how would Hanlon have been viewed last season if he had to play right centre back all season. Think a 3 suits him and covers his limitations better than a 2.

[Stevie Reid]

I agree with most of this. I’ve always liked Rocky, but only recently thought he has done enough to be part of the rebuild.

One mitigation there’s always been in Rocky’s favour is that it’s him that has always had to play on his wrong side, and in a 2. For example, how would Hanlon have been viewed last season if he had to play right centre back all season. Think a 3 suits him and covers his limitations better than a 2.

Good point about him playing on the wrong side.