The Caddens

[Mango Man]

I would be more than happy for these guys to be at Hibs for years to come, I think Chris's game has improved with his brother being about as well, hope we offer him a new contract, he is absolutely fine in this league. You can tell they are good lads to have about the place, excellent pros.

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[Brightside]

Amazing that some don’t rate Chris. Top players the pair of them

[Stevie Reid]

Yeah I’m always surprised to read how many on here want us to let Chris Cadden go. Undoubtedly has his flaws but I very much like him - and is a squad player at the very least for me.

[J-C]

Yeah I’m always surprised to read how many on here want us to let Chris Cadden go. Undoubtedly has his flaws but I very much like him - and is a squad player at the very least for me.

I think a lot forget his Achilles injury was a fairly serious one and some players never gat back to where they were afterwards.

[yerauldda]

I thought Chris had his best defensive game for us yesterday.
Used to do my head in by standing so far off an attacker but he was right out to them yesterday.

Threat going forward too. Nicky is just a very good football player.

[hibsbollah]

Chrissy was great yesterday. Hes not got the pace youd like ideally but has enough nous to make up for it. And of course Nicky has been a revelation. Keep-keep.

[Shrekko]

Absolutely nuts that people think CC isn’t worth keeping. Tried and trusted SPFL player with a great attitude.

I do agree that his game has gone up a notch since Nicky joined.

[CentreLine]

Amazing that some don’t rate Chris. Top players the pair of them

Seconded. Two excellent players.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Chris Cadden reminds me a bit of Paul McGinn. Not in style, but in terms of being dependable and consistent, and also that a lot of people believe we can do so much better.

[BILLYHIBS]

Chris Cadden reminds me a bit of Paul McGinn. Not in style, but in terms of being dependable and consistent, and also that a lot of people believe we can do so much better.

Paul McGinn is a better footballer than Chris Cadden Chris Cadden isn’t even the best footballer in his hoose 😀

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Yeah I’m always surprised to read how many on here want us to let Chris Cadden go. Undoubtedly has his flaws but I very much like him - and is a squad player at the very least for me.

Prob best left to managers the amount of revision this season demonstrates sometimes we just don’t know.

[Shrekko]

Paul McGinn is a better footballer than Chris Cadden Chris Cadden isn’t even the best footballer in his hoose 😀

Well neither is Paul to be fair.

CC and Paul McGinn are totally different players - both similarly effective.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Paul McGinn is a better footballer than Chris Cadden Chris Cadden isn’t even the best footballer in his hoose 😀

Kinda covered that by saying not in style??

[BILLYHIBS]

Well neither is Paul to be fair.

CC and Paul McGinn are totally different players - both similarly effective.

McGinn is the better defender imo

[The Modfather]

Yeah I’m always surprised to read how many on here want us to let Chris Cadden go. Undoubtedly has his flaws but I very much like him - and is a squad player at the very least for me.

For me the issues are his flaws are in both thirds IMO. Tremendous athlete and great in that middle third running with the ball though.

[Mango Man]

For me the issues are his flaws are in both thirds IMO. Tremendous athlete and great in that middle third running with the ball though.

I think this formation suits Chris perfectly, having the 3 at the back is good cover for him. I've always really enjoyed a 3-5-2, seems to cover all bases.

[Smartie]

I like them both and would be happy to see them both stay.

Folk used to get angry at Chris Cadden for hitting in multiple crosses without looking - I’ve always seen them as the sort of deliveries that a decent, mobile striker would absolutely feast off. Instead, we’ve often had our central striker in the 451 miles away from getting in there and nobody else nearby.

As a WB and with 2 strikers I always feel we’ve got more chance of getting an end product from his wide play.

[CapitalGreen]

I like them both and would be happy to see them both stay.

Folk used to get angry at Chris Cadden for hitting in multiple crosses without looking - I’ve always seen them as the sort of deliveries that a decent, mobile striker would absolutely feast off. Instead, we’ve often had our central striker in the 451 miles away from getting in there and nobody else nearby.

As a WB and with 2 strikers I always feel we’ve got more chance of getting an end product from his wide play.

Even if that were true, an intelligent footballer wouldn’t continually put in crosses to areas our attackers were always miles away from.

[worcesterhibby]

If Chris Cadden played for Dundee or Motherwell, there would be lots of posters on here telling us he’s just the sort of tried and tested SPFL player we should be buying.

him being here obviously played a part in Nicky signing, keeping Nicky happy is another good reason to keep Chris.

[Shrekko]

McGinn is the better defender imo

Don’t disagree with that. Cadden is slightly better on the ball I’d say.

Both great pros IMO. I’m still sorry Paul McGinn isn’t here.

[BILLYHIBS]

Don’t disagree with that. Cadden is slightly better on the ball I’d say.

Both great pros IMO. I’m still sorry Paul McGinn isn’t here.

Chris is a tremendous athlete gets up and down the park could run all day but sometimes looks as if he has never seen a ball before McGinn is the more natural footballer saying that Chris seems to enjoy playing with his brother and has bags of energy and enthusiasm if he could look up he would be playing for Scotland 😀

[CentreLine]

Even if that were true, an intelligent footballer wouldn’t continually put in crosses to areas our attackers were always miles away from.

Have to disagree with that. C Cadden consistently puts crosses in to a great area if the box. It is up to our strikers to get in there to meet them. I see the failing with the strikers rather than the player delivering exactly what his job requires.

[hibbydog]

Y know how it’s always said the perfect goal is when one full back crosses and the other one scores?!

Wonder if one twin has ever crossed for the other one to score, like yesterday?

Can’t think of anyone apart from the De Boer twins.

And they were cr@p compared to the Caddens

[The Modfather]

Have to disagree with that. C Cadden consistently puts crosses in to a great area if the box. It is up to our strikers to get in there to meet them. I see the failing with the strikers rather than the player delivering exactly what his job requires.

Since we’ve changed to a 352 he’s not got a single goal or assist despite having 2 forwards and someone like Gayle to find.

In that same period his brother has 5 goals and 3 assists.

[Hibs90]

Yes, we should keep him, even if it turns out to be a squad/rotational option in the long run.

[Fergos]

Since we’ve changed to a 352 he’s not got a single goal or assist despite having 2 forwards and someone like Gayle to find.

In that same period his brother has 5 goals and 3 assists.

He has an assist from yesterday. But agree that we need more of that from CC. Worthy as a squad player but maybe not a starter…if we want to improve and move forward 🇳🇬

[flash]

He has an assist from yesterday. But agree that we need more of that from CC. Worthy as a squad player but maybe not a starter…if we want to improve and move forward 🇳🇬

Yet we are improving and are moving forward with him in the team.

[Stevie Reid]

Since we’ve changed to a 352 he’s not got a single goal or assist despite having 2 forwards and someone like Gayle to find.

In that same period his brother has 5 goals and 3 assists.

The trouble with using assists as a marker for a player is it’s out of their hands once they’ve played a pass or crossed the ball.

For example in the Rangers game, Chris Cadden put a superb ball right onto Gayle’s head, who then headed it straight into the keeper’s arms. Nothing more that Cadden can do in that instance.

I’m not a fan of using assists purely as an indicator of someone’s productivity. there’s much more to football than that, and an assist can be a proper one - like a great cross or through ball - or almost meaningless, like a two yard pass before someone fires in a 30 yarder, or goes on a run and scores.

In terms of stats, chances created or key passes, or such like, are more telling IMO. I’ve no idea what Cadden’s are, incidentally.

[The Modfather]

The trouble with using assists as a marker for a player is it’s out of their hands once they’ve played a pass or crossed the ball.

For example in the Rangers game, Chris Cadden put a superb ball right onto Gayle’s head, who then headed it straight into the keeper’s arms. Nothing more that Cadden can do in that instance.

I’m not a fan of using assists purely as an indicator of someone’s productivity. there’s much more to football than that, and an assist can be a proper one - like a great cross or through ball - or almost meaningless, like a two yard pass before someone fires in a 30 yarder, or goes on a run and scores.

In terms of stats, chances created or key passes, or such like, are more telling IMO. I’ve no idea what Cadden’s are, incidentally.

I don’t necessarily disagree with much of your post. My post was a reply to someone talking about C Caddens crosses and whether they were good crosses and just needed the strikers to do more or not. In that context I thought it was fair to look at since the Aberdeen game and going two up front and comparing both Caddens given they play the same position and have the same advantages and disadvantages of the change in formation.

[Fergos]

Yet we are improving and are moving forward with him in the team.

Over the course of his time at ER I think we need more end product from him, he works his socks off and gets us up the park but feel we need more, effective final balls from him. Like yesterday.

[HibeeMackenzie]

Open goal (Kevin Kyle and Paul Slane) were due to film a darts special with the two of them, although I’m not sure if it happened due to Nicky having to see a specialist for his mask. Hopefully it happened or has been rearranged as it would be a good watch

[B.H.F.C]

Yet we are improving and are moving forward with him in the team.

There has been plenty times he’s been in the team over the last 3 or 4 years where that’s not been the case though. I hope we don’t make contract decisions based on such a short period. Doesn’t just apply to him that, obviously.

[B.H.F.C]

Open goal (Kevin Kyle and Paul Slane) were due to film a darts special with the two of them, although I’m not sure if it happened due to Nicky having to see a specialist for his mask. Hopefully it happened or has been rearranged as it would be a good watch

It would be, apart from Kevin Kyle and Paul Shane being part of it.

[JimBHibees]

Yeah I’m always surprised to read how many on here want us to let Chris Cadden go. Undoubtedly has his flaws but I very much like him - and is a squad player at the very least for me.

His attitude is fantastic

[ian cruise]

Have to disagree with that. C Cadden consistently puts crosses in to a great area if the box. It is up to our strikers to get in there to meet them. I see the failing with the strikers rather than the player delivering exactly what his job requires.

Funnily enough, I've been pondering this over the weekend (Cadden's crosses, not your post), and I'll prefix by saying it's because I too was finding it frustrating.

What I realised is when we have an attacking central player like Scott Allan putting a through ball to no-one, it's the other player's fault and they're not as good as the player playing the pass, but when we've a wide player doing a similar thing then it's their fault for not looking up.

I think there's fault on both sides, Chris Cadden definitely is wasteful with our opportunities however I'd also encourage our forwards and attacking midfielders when they see him go to be thinking "right, he's hitting that in to the box, I'd better get there".

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Funnily enough, I've been pondering this over the weekend (Cadden's crosses, not your post), and I'll prefix by saying it's because I too was finding it frustrating.

What I realised is when we have an attacking central player like Scott Allan putting a through ball to no-one, it's the other player's fault and they're not as good as the player playing the pass, but when we've a wide player doing a similar thing then it's their fault for not looking up.

I think there's fault on both sides, Chris Cadden definitely is wasteful with our opportunities however I'd also encourage our forwards and attacking midfielders when they see him go to be thinking "right, he's hitting that in to the box, I'd better get there".

Surely the forwards only know what to expect/ how close they can get if the ball is put in?

[ian cruise]

Surely the forwards only know what to expect/ how close they can get if the ball is put in?

Absolutely. I'm just not sure we're as proactive as we could/should be at anticipating the cross but for sure Cadden definitely needs to be thinking about where he's hitting it a lot more than he does.

[greenlex]

Absolutely. I'm just not sure we're as proactive as we could/should be at anticipating the cross but for sure Cadden definitely needs to be thinking about where he's hitting it a lot more than he does.

When a winger is crossing the ball there isn’t many areas they should hit. They should be hitting them tho it’s then up to the forwards or midfielders to be in those areas. Wingers shouldn’t be looking for the forwards they should be looking for the space the forward should be attacking. The only exception where they should be looking up for someone is for a cut back. Ball into the right areas every time. Up to the attackers to get in there. If you are trying to hit a man it means he isn’t on the move.