Referees booking both players after aggressive behaviour

[Northernhibee]

How lazy a decision is this most of the time? The overinflated shortarse #23 squares up to Rudi for no reason, then to Chris Cadden - and for some bizarre reason Rudi gets a booking. The referee really needed to look at that and notice the aggression was only coming from one player. Dodged having to make a decision by taking the easy road out.

Also full credit to Chris Cadden and Josh Campbell for getting involved in it.

[DaveF]

It must be rule number 1 in the referee handbook. It just lacks any common sense or reading of the situation.

[theonlywayisup]

So frustrating! Pretty sure the same thing happened in the Newcastle Bournemouth game today.

[B.H.F.C]

Shocking decision to book Molotnikov.

Not sure what some of the Hibs players said to Low but it made him **** himself whatever it was. He spent about the next 10 minutes trying to explain himself to them whenever the ball was dead and went and apologised Molotnikov as well.

[Joe6-2]

How lazy a decision is this most of the time? The overinflated shortarse #23 squares up to Rudi for no reason, then to Chris Cadden - and for some bizarre reason Rudi gets a booking. The referee really needed to look at that and notice the aggression was only coming from one player. Dodged having to make a decision by taking the easy road out.

Also full credit to Chris Cadden and Josh Campbell for getting involved in it.

Said at the time, drives me nuts, the victim being punished to the same extent as the aggressor!

[StevieT]

For long enough now, referees have been advised to caution one from each side for anything they would call mass confrontation. This is what is expected by the referees association.

I wasn't at the game today so don't know if the situation met the above.

We were shown a clip from a Junior game at one of our referee sessions. Players from both sides got involved in a mass pushing match so the referee cautioned one from each side. We were asked our opinions and everyone, but me, agreed that the right decision was made. I pointed out that one player cautioned arrived at the melee late and tried to pull away his team mate so wasn't actually involved. i was told that it didn't really matter. The expectation was a yellow card for one player from each team. The referee delivered this so did his job.

after 12 years of refereeing I gave up shortly after this

[HibeeMackenzie]

For long enough now, referees have been advised to caution one from each side for anything they would call mass confrontation. This is what is expected by the referees association.

I wasn't at the game today so don't know if the situation met the above.

We were shown a clip from a Junior game at one of our referee sessions. Players from both sides got involved in a mass pushing match so the referee cautioned one from each side. We were asked our opinions and everyone, but me, agreed that the right decision was made. I pointed out that one player cautioned arrived at the melee late and tried to pull away his team mate so wasn't actually involved. i was told that it didn't really matter. The expectation was a yellow card for one player from each team. The referee delivered this so did his job.

after 12 years of refereeing I gave up shortly after this

Rudi dribbled past one who tried to wipe him with a shocker of challenge which rudi done well to avoid.

Then as he took the ball to corner the wee dumpling sprinted into him shoved him in the back then preceded to square up to him


Rudi was booked for being too good at football for them and they couldn’t hack it

[Pretty Boy]

Referees just don't apply the rules properly a lot of the time.

Kwon had a bad tackle in the first couple of minutes. Ref called him over, pointed at his watch then pointed at his pocket. I read that as 'if it wasn't so early then I'd book you'. It's either a bookable offence or not, the time has nothing to do with it. The Rudi incident was just bizarre. That wee roaster 23 had already got involved with Rocky for no reason in the 1st half. Runs over to get involved in a nothing incident that had **** all to do with him, lays hands on our player yet Rudi ends up with the same punishment.

It's yet another example of a referee who doesn't understand the game. He knows the rules but doesn't fully understand what he is watching and thus doesn't know how to apply the rules. Refs in Scotland climb the ladder based on where they come from and if their face fits. There are better refs in Scotland in the Lowland and Highland Leagues. Guys who have often played the game at a good level and are respected by players. They haven't worked the room properly though so will languish whilst guys with less talent gets the big gigs. I think the example posted above covers it pretty well. Guys just agreeing with something that is patently nonsense because it's the expected answer. The guy who actually reads the situation properly is told he is wrong.

[JimBHibees]

Referees just don't apply the rules properly a lot of the time.

Kwon had a bad tackle in the first couple of minutes. Ref called him over, pointed at his watch then pointed at his pocket. I read that as 'if it wasn't so early then I'd book you'. It's either a bookable offence or not, the time has nothing to do with it. The Rudi incident was just bizarre. That wee roaster 23 had already got involved with Rocky for no reason in the 1st half. Runs over to get involved in a nothing incident that had **** all to do with him, lays hands on our player yet Rudi ends up with the same punishment.

It's yet another example of a referee who doesn't understand the game. He knows the rules but doesn't fully understand what he is watching and thus doesn't know how to apply the rules. Refs in Scotland climb the ladder based on where they come from and if their face fits. There are better refs in Scotland in the Lowland and Highland Leagues. Guys who have often played the game at a good level and are respected by players. They haven't worked the room properly though so will languish whilst guys with less talent gets the big gigs. I think the example posted above covers it pretty well. Guys just agreeing with something that is patently nonsense because it's the expected answer. The guy who actually reads the situation properly is told he is wrong.

The number of situations today he could have played on but didn’t was ridiculous

Joelinton cleared someone out in game today then pushed about 4 Bournemouth players result Joelinton booked two Bournemouth players booked utterly bizarre

[Northernhibee]

The number of situations today he could have played on but didn’t was ridiculous

Also calling back free kicks in non threatening areas because they weren’t in the exact same place - but in no way gave an advantage to the team taking the free kick.

Broke up the flow of the game and allowed Clydebank to make scrappy fouls and to fall back into position.

Agree with the earlier post that it’s someone who understands the rules but not the game.

[O'Rourke3]

Referees just don't apply the rules properly a lot of the time.

Kwon had a bad tackle in the first couple of minutes. Ref called him over, pointed at his watch then pointed at his pocket. I read that as 'if it wasn't so early then I'd book you'. It's either a bookable offence or not, the time has nothing to do with it. The Rudi incident was just bizarre. That wee roaster 23 had already got involved with Rocky for no reason in the 1st half. Runs over to get involved in a nothing incident that had **** all to do with him, lays hands on our player yet Rudi ends up with the same punishment.

It's yet another example of a referee who doesn't understand the game. He knows the rules but doesn't fully understand what he is watching and thus doesn't know how to apply the rules. Refs in Scotland climb the ladder based on where they come from and if their face fits. There are better refs in Scotland in the Lowland and Highland Leagues. Guys who have often played the game at a good level and are respected by players. They haven't worked the room properly though so will languish whilst guys with less talent gets the big gigs. I think the example posted above covers it pretty well. Guys just agreeing with something that is patently nonsense because it's the expected answer. The guy who actually reads the situation properly is told he is wrong.

The main issue with the early cups rounds is who officiates. The officials yesterday were hopeless. The right back who was calling for offsides and getting them was generally playing our guys on and the East stand linesman gave it every time. He seemed to have difficulties keeping up with play. Re the Kwon tackle our guys were remonstrating with him to look at evidence of how far up the shin Kwon had been hit, so potentially a red but the old "I've got a card in my pocket" crap.

[Stairway 2 7]

How lazy a decision is this most of the time? The overinflated shortarse #23 squares up to Rudi for no reason, then to Chris Cadden - and for some bizarre reason Rudi gets a booking. The referee really needed to look at that and notice the aggression was only coming from one player. Dodged having to make a decision by taking the easy road out.

Also full credit to Chris Cadden and Josh Campbell for getting involved in it.

It is utterly utterly bizarre. Up there with evenening up close penalty decisions. It's like getting smacked in the pub and you both getting barred

[McD]

The main issue with the early cups rounds is who officiates. The officials yesterday were hopeless. The right back who was calling for offsides and getting them was generally playing our guys on and the East stand linesman gave it every time. He seemed to have difficulties keeping up with play. Re the Kwon tackle our guys were remonstrating with him to look at evidence of how far up the shin Kwon had been hit, so potentially a red but the old "I've got a card in my pocket" crap.


Which then has a knock on effect later in the competition as players end up suspended due to soft yellow cards handed out by poor officials in the earlier rounds

[JimBHibees]

Referees just don't apply the rules properly a lot of the time.

Kwon had a bad tackle in the first couple of minutes. Ref called him over, pointed at his watch then pointed at his pocket. I read that as 'if it wasn't so early then I'd book you'. It's either a bookable offence or not, the time has nothing to do with it. The Rudi incident was just bizarre. That wee roaster 23 had already got involved with Rocky for no reason in the 1st half. Runs over to get involved in a nothing incident that had **** all to do with him, lays hands on our player yet Rudi ends up with the same punishment.

It's yet another example of a referee who doesn't understand the game. He knows the rules but doesn't fully understand what he is watching and thus doesn't know how to apply the rules. Refs in Scotland climb the ladder based on where they come from and if their face fits. There are better refs in Scotland in the Lowland and Highland Leagues. Guys who have often played the game at a good level and are respected by players. They haven't worked the room properly though so will languish whilst guys with less talent gets the big gigs. I think the example posted above covers it pretty well. Guys just agreeing with something that is patently nonsense because it's the expected answer. The guy who actually reads the situation properly is told he is wrong.

Think the tackle on Kwon should have been red leg breaker challenge imo