Hibs penalty

[Donegal Hibby]

Really is quite amazing how much fuss has been stirred up about our penalty yesterday from Clement ranting about it to demanding explanations , Robbie savage coming out saying it was never a penalty as the Hibs player kicked the sevco one 😂…

Don’t know who this guy is though probably a hun who’s unhappy too ..

https://x.com/EuanBRobertson/status/1875906795241365523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1875906795241365523%7Ctwgr% 5Ebd701766300d33a53daceb02f52874435717c336%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibroxnews.com%2F2025%2F0 1%2F06%2Frangers-v-hibs-ex-fifa-ref-hits-back-at-what-was-said-about-var-controversy%2F

How many penalties soft penalties have they been given over the years against us like the one where Colak throws himself down like a bag of tatties with minimal contact .

[allezsauzee]

All those mentioned above are absolute fandans, I wouldn't be wasting mental energy on thinking about their opinions. The Rangers feel hard done by if each and every every single decision doesn't go their way. Always have done and always will do.

[SickBoy32]

The Rangers feel hard done by if each and every every single decision doesn't go their way. Always have done and always will do.

Worst losers in the world that lot, toys out the pram stuff every time.

Forever grateful that the Evil Empire were our opponents in 2016 💚

[Unseen work]

You always get a foul for that. Everywhere on the pitch.

What is interesting is the lack of mention for Dioamonde’s tackle on Cadden.

100% a red card if it was roles reversed

[JeMeSouviens]

We got the pen. The Huns are spewing. What's not to like? :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

You always get a foul for that. Everywhere on the pitch.

What is interesting is the lack of mention for Dioamonde’s tackle on Cadden.

100% a red card if it was roles reversed

Yep sheer deflection. No mention on sky at half time. Sportscene show it in the highlights but totally ignore discussion of it. Absolutely bizarre roles reversed Hibs player walks. Interesting there was a bit of a set to with Diomande and Cadden at the end of the game so clearly Nicky not happy.

[Donegal Hibby]

You always get a foul for that. Everywhere on the pitch.

What is interesting is the lack of mention for Dioamonde’s tackle on Cadden.

100% a red card if it was roles reversed

Thought the views on the tackle on Cadden here were unbelievable as were two opinions on the penalty also …

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13284549/hibernian-vs-rangers-ref-watch-disagreement-as-dermot-gallagher-stephen-warnock-and-sue-smith-analyse-scottish-premiership-match

[CapitalGreen]

Really is quite amazing how much fuss has been stirred up about our penalty yesterday from Clement ranting about it to demanding explanations , Robbie savage coming out saying it was never a penalty as the Hibs player kicked the sevco one 😂…

Don’t know who this guy is though probably a hun who’s unhappy too ..

https://x.com/EuanBRobertson/status/1875906795241365523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1875906795241365523%7Ctwgr% 5Ebd701766300d33a53daceb02f52874435717c336%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibroxnews.com%2F2025%2F0 1%2F06%2Frangers-v-hibs-ex-fifa-ref-hits-back-at-what-was-said-about-var-controversy%2F

How many penalties soft penalties have they been given over the years against us like the one where Colak throws himself down like a bag of tatties with minimal contact .

Bit rich of you to criticise someone for failing to admit their player made an error leading to a goal.

[JimBHibees]

Thought the views on the tackle on Cadden here were unbelievable as were two opinions on the penalty also …

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13284549/hibernian-vs-rangers-ref-watch-disagreement-as-dermot-gallagher-stephen-warnock-and-sue-smith-analyse-scottish-premiership-match

Interesting only Dermot had view on Diomande tackle the views on the pen are ridiculous though should have showed replay again. Completely ignored barge in the back. Probably don’t want hate mail

[LaMotta]

Huns are a deranged bunch. If the tackle was up the other end hey would 100% be claiming penalty was the correct call.

I mean even Kris Boyd said it was penalty yesterday which tells you all you need to know. Clement cleverly using the pen to divert the thick hun fans away from a poor result from them and get their attention on a hysterical and fanciful notion that refs are somehow against them.

Savage is also of the hun persuasion, he always just takes the polar opposite view of Chris Sutton as they are on the 5-live radio phone in together, so wouldn't read too much into his thoughts.

[LaMotta]

Thought the views on the tackle on Cadden here were unbelievable as were two opinions on the penalty also …

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13284549/hibernian-vs-rangers-ref-watch-disagreement-as-dermot-gallagher-stephen-warnock-and-sue-smith-analyse-scottish-premiership-match

Sue Smith and Stephen Warnock - what a pair of wallopers:hilarious

[wookie70]

I thought at the game Haji had elbowed Josh in the side/back and it was a stonewall penalty. After watching it a number of times now I think Haji elbowed Josh in the side/back and it is a stonewall penalty. I think the red card offence was a soft red or a yellow. Either would have been understandable but no card is just mental. The media coverage basically mirrors what Scottish football is - designed around promoting The Rangers FC.

[lapsedhibee]

Huns are getting a lot of stick on here but as far as I can see none of them have called for a replay, so they should at least be applauded for their restraint.

[bingo70]

Thought the views on the tackle on Cadden here were unbelievable as were two opinions on the penalty also …

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13284549/hibernian-vs-rangers-ref-watch-disagreement-as-dermot-gallagher-stephen-warnock-and-sue-smith-analyse-scottish-premiership-match

The views on the penalty are nuts.

“You are allowed to barge shoulder to shoulder”, that wasn’t a shoulder to shoulder to shoulder contact, Campbell got there first so he got him in the back/ribs area.

I’m happy to admit when we get favourable decisions, I agree with them about the red card but that was a stone Waller, I don’t care how many ex-pros or refs say otherwise, especially when their reasoning doesn’t make any sense.

[Donegal Hibby]

Bit rich of you to criticise someone for failing to admit their player made an error leading to a goal.

You ever post anything positive or cheery without looking for argument ?

[Northernhibee]

It’s a stonewall penalty. You’d never, ever complain if that was given against us.

The problem is that we gave a system where the FA, media, majority of top flight referees, and more are based in Glasgow and surrounding areas. Credit to Beaton for giving the penalty because although it’s not a tough decision, at least it was given.

[Baader]

Huns that used to not having penalties given against them doubt they even know what constitutes a foul in their own box.

[Lago]

Bit rich of you to criticise someone for failing to admit their player made an error leading to a goal.
What's your point, a nonsense post.

[Chorley Hibee]

He ends up in front of Campbell because of the shove and then barge with the hip.

It's absolutely incredulous that none of these clowns can see this.

[Donegal Hibby]

The views on the penalty are nuts.

“You are allowed to barge shoulder to shoulder”, that wasn’t a shoulder to shoulder to shoulder contact, Campbell got there first so he got him in the back/ribs area.

I’m happy to admit when we get favourable decisions, I agree with them about the red card but that was a stone Waller, I don’t care how many ex-pros or refs say otherwise, especially when their reasoning doesn’t make any sense.

I agree Bingo looked very much like he bumped / pushed Campbell in the back / ribs area to me as well. Honestly don’t think we’d hear the same opinion if it was the other way round .. not wanting to upset the huns anymore than they are already obviously 😂

[Bostonhibby]

Really is quite amazing how much fuss has been stirred up about our penalty yesterday from Clement ranting about it to demanding explanations , Robbie savage coming out saying it was never a penalty as the Hibs player kicked the sevco one [emoji23]…

Don’t know who this guy is though probably a hun who’s unhappy too ..

https://x.com/EuanBRobertson/status/1875906795241365523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1875906795241365523%7Ctwgr% 5Ebd701766300d33a53daceb02f52874435717c336%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibroxnews.com%2F2025%2F0 1%2F06%2Frangers-v-hibs-ex-fifa-ref-hits-back-at-what-was-said-about-var-controversy%2F

How many penalties soft penalties have they been given over the years against us like the one where Colak throws himself down like a bag of tatties with minimal contact .They're unhappy, it's in their DNA, big purple faced miserable bloated huns with an inflated sense of entitlement (because they used to be the people before they let the now defunct Glasgow rangers fold).

They spend all their money on orange gear and union Jack paraphernalia and live in a false triumphalist world when the reality remains they can't lay a glove on celtc even if they do manage the odd one in ten result.

Huns being huns, just need to get over themselves or write a nice wee statement about the injustice of it all.

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[Jones28]

It's such a rangers-framed look at it, no mention of the fact the Beaton didn't even give a yellow for the tackle on Cadden, no mention of the tackle on Boyle, the pundits saying if anything it was a fouled by Campbell on Hagi. Morons.

I detest Sky and their crap coverage of Scottish Football, their lazy punting out of Chris Sutton when they need a co-com, their old firm centric coverage. Ian Crocker is the only redeeming feature and even he seemed a bit iffy yesterday.

[Moulin Yarns]

You always get a foul for that. Everywhere on the pitch.

What is interesting is the lack of mention for Dioamonde’s tackle on Cadden.

100% a red card if it was roles reversed

I watched the St Johnstone and Rangers highlights on sports centre back to back and Jason holt red card was exactly the same as the Rangers foul.

[B.H.F.C]

At the game I thought we were lucky to get it. I only really saw the tangle of legs and, from where I was, it looked like Campbell had brought Hagi down more than the other way about. But when you see it back the barge in the back happened first so penalty for me.

I’m still shocked that Beaton gave it.

[Tyler Durden]

The slow-mo makes it look a bit more of a "coming together". At full speed it's clear that Campbell is in front and Hagi barges into him from behind.

I totally get if some people think it's not a penalty. But it really isn't a howler, not one that VAR would ever consider over turning. So the media should know better than to amplify Clement's whining. Look at Obita on Sterling last season, Clement was fine with that. Man is a fool.

[Hibs4185]

Be better calling the thread hun tears

[matty_f]

You have to remember that for a lot of these fans, they’ve rarely seen penalties given against them, so when it does happen it confuses the **** out of them.

[gbhibby]

Keith Hackett an ex ref saying it a penalty for the barge in the back of Josh. You get a foul anywhere else on the pitch for that as Gallagher said a clumsy challenge. Watched a couple of Rangers podcasts and they were of the opinion that it was a penalty and if it had been at the other end they would be expecting a penalty to be given.

[007]

Hagi is maybe slightly in front of him in terms of how far up the pitch they are i.e. he's an inch or two closer to the goal line. However, the ball is coming from the left and Hagi is the wrong side of Campbell so he's directly behind him in relation to where the ball is coming from. Hagi sticks his foot in front of Campbell trying to get the ball but in doing so he doesn't get it and causes the tangle of legs and they both fall together on top of the ball.

Clear penalty to me, Hagi on the wrong side, clumsily goes for the ball, misses and causes the tangle. And that's before you even mention it was more of a barge than shoulder to shoulder.

https://i.ibb.co/RDFpHq2/Screenshot-20250106-175341-You-Tube.jpg (https://ibb.co/71fJyqv)

https://i.ibb.co/b7nhbHN/Screenshot-20250106-175401-You-Tube.jpg (https://ibb.co/t35fLZY)

[mcohibs]

Ian Crocker is the only redeeming feature and even he seemed a bit iffy yesterday.

Crocker is well past it IMO. Just screams constantly and always looking for a sound bite with everything he says. ‘Henderson to deliver’ his finest moment of course

[Ringothedog]

It's such a rangers-framed look at it, no mention of the fact the Beaton didn't even give a yellow for the tackle on Cadden, no mention of the tackle on Boyle, the pundits saying if anything it was a fouled by Campbell on Hagi. Morons.

I detest Sky and their crap coverage of Scottish Football, their lazy punting out of Chris Sutton when they need a co-com, their old firm centric coverage. Ian Crocker is the only redeeming feature and even he seemed a bit iffy yesterday.

Crocker was dreadful yesterday. His continual narrative that the Huns were in complete control for the whole of the first half became tiresome. I would agree that for the first 30 minutes they were but the last 15 minutes were dominated by us. I am sure there was a stat shown which confirmed us dominating possession and having more possession in the final 3rd

[Victor]

If a Rangers supporting referee and VAR, (that tends to side with the Old Firm when there is the slightest doubt) say it’s a penalty, then it definitely is a penalty. From my view in the West Stand it looked a stonewaller and having now seen it in replays I wouldn’t change my opinion. I have no idea how any sensible person can argue otherwise.

[Hibrandenburg]

Keith Hackett an ex ref saying it a penalty for the barge in the back of Josh. You get a foul anywhere else on the pitch for that as Gallagher said a clumsy challenge. Watched a couple of Rangers podcasts and they were of the opinion that it was a penalty and if it had been at the other end they would be expecting a penalty to be given.

If it was at the other end and Beaton didn't give it, then he'd be receiving bullets in the post.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Hagi is maybe slightly in front of him in terms of how far up the pitch they are i.e. he's an inch or two closer to the goal line. However, the ball is coming from the left and Hagi is the wrong side of Campbell so he's directly behind him in relation to where the ball is coming from. Hagi sticks his foot in front of Campbell trying to get the ball but in doing so he doesn't get it and causes the tangle of legs and they both fall together on top of the ball.

Clear penalty to me, Hagi on the wrong side, clumsily goes for the ball, misses and causes the tangle. And that's before you even mention it was more of a barge than shoulder to shoulder.

https://i.ibb.co/RDFpHq2/Screenshot-20250106-175341-You-Tube.jpg (https://ibb.co/71fJyqv)

https://i.ibb.co/b7nhbHN/Screenshot-20250106-175401-You-Tube.jpg (https://ibb.co/t35fLZY)

I’m just watching Hibs ‘the game’ on YT. Can’t post a link but I paused the frame at 3.46 and it shows Hagi’s leg come across Campbells to trip him up. 100% stonewaller.

[Joe6-2]

Really is quite amazing how much fuss has been stirred up about our penalty yesterday from Clement ranting about it to demanding explanations , Robbie savage coming out saying it was never a penalty as the Hibs player kicked the sevco one 😂…

Don’t know who this guy is though probably a hun who’s unhappy too ..

https://x.com/EuanBRobertson/status/1875906795241365523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1875906795241365523%7Ctwgr% 5Ebd701766300d33a53daceb02f52874435717c336%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibroxnews.com%2F2025%2F0 1%2F06%2Frangers-v-hibs-ex-fifa-ref-hits-back-at-what-was-said-about-var-controversy%2F

How many penalties soft penalties have they been given over the years against us like the one where Colak throws himself down like a bag of tatties with minimal contact .

So little has been said 🙄 fud

[Keith_M]

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Hagi is maybe slightly in front of him in terms of how far up the pitch they are i.e. he's an inch or two closer to the goal line. However, the ball is coming from the left and Hagi is the wrong side of Campbell so he's directly behind him in relation to where the ball is coming from. Hagi sticks his foot in front of Campbell trying to get the ball but in doing so he doesn't get it and causes the tangle of legs and they both fall together on top of the ball.

Clear penalty to me, Hagi on the wrong side, clumsily goes for the ball, misses and causes the tangle. And that's before you even mention it was more of a barge than shoulder to shoulder.

https://i.ibb.co/RDFpHq2/Screenshot-20250106-175341-You-Tube.jpg (https://ibb.co/71fJyqv)

https://i.ibb.co/b7nhbHN/Screenshot-20250106-175401-You-Tube.jpg (https://ibb.co/t35fLZY)

Causing a tangle of legs isn’t a foul. You get taught as an attacking player to get your body/legs infront of the other team when you’re goal side so that if there is a tangle of legs, you get the foul.

I don’t think it’s a howler from Beaton, but it’s at best a soft penalty imo although im not sure it’s a penalty at all. Clumsy from Hagi, but I don’t think the contact in the upper body is a penalty, it’s certainly not in the back for me and the contact is with Campbells side and the tangle of legs isn’t Hagi’s problem if his legs are the ones in front.

I’d be disappointed if that got given against us whilst probably thinking it was a bit of a clumsy challenge at the same time. And you can guarantee our resident couple of conspiracy theorists would be apoplectic if that got given against us despite the fact they’re insistent it was a penalty :greengrin

I did see posts online from fans of other teams who didn’t think it was a penalty either. The only people I’ve seen generally insistent it’s a penalty have been Hibs and Celtic fans which is fairly telling imo.

[Donegal Hibby]

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[Smartie]

Keith Hackett an ex ref saying it a penalty for the barge in the back of Josh. You get a foul anywhere else on the pitch for that as Gallagher said a clumsy challenge. Watched a couple of Rangers podcasts and they were of the opinion that it was a penalty and if it had been at the other end they would be expecting a penalty to be given.

I actually thought Lennon and Boyd were spot on with it.

Lennon said that if he’s David Gray then he thinks it’s a penalty and wants it but if he’s Clement then he thinks it’s soft.

And he’s turned out to be right on both counts.

Imo it’s absolutely a penalty…but one that leaves a very bitter taste if it goes against your team.

[GreenCastle]

We have had countless decisions go against us against the Huns over the years..

Was there not a blatant handball few years ago which wasn’t given at Ibrox when the ball landed on some hun players arm?

[Pretty Boy]

Remember a couple of seasons ago when, topically enough, Rocky tugged at Colak's shirt and a penalty was given?

That was soft but ultimately it was the right decision. The penalty we got at the weekend was more of a stick on penalty than that one was and as I said that one was 100% a penalty.

[CentreLine]

I love the comment from the lady commentator, she’s spot on.
“If anything it’s the opposite.” She says.
That’s the attitude. Penalty to rangers it is then there’s no fuss

[Greenbeard]

You always get a foul for that. Everywhere on the pitch.

What is interesting is the lack of mention for Dioamonde’s tackle on Cadden.

100% a red card if it was roles reversed
Also the foul on Boyle when he got his foot stamped on. Stick on yellow but not even given as a foul.

[gbhibby]

At the end of the day it was given Boyle scored game finished 3 3. What Clement thinks is irrelevant bet if the shoe was on the other foot there would be no column inches devoted to this. You do not make contact like that in the box and except to get away with it. Some Rangers fans wish Harry Potter would wave his magic wand and make Voldemort dissappear.

[007]

Causing a tangle of legs isn’t a foul. You get taught as an attacking player to get your body/legs infront of the other team when you’re goal side so that if there is a tangle of legs, you get the foul.

I don’t think it’s a howler from Beaton, but it’s at best a soft penalty imo although im not sure it’s a penalty at all. Clumsy from Hagi, but I don’t think the contact in the upper body is a penalty, it’s certainly not in the back for me and the contact is with Campbells side and the tangle of legs isn’t Hagi’s problem if his legs are the ones in front.

I’d be disappointed if that got given against us whilst probably thinking it was a bit of a clumsy challenge at the same time. And you can guarantee our resident couple of conspiracy theorists would be apoplectic if that got given against us despite the fact they’re insistent it was a penalty :greengrin

I did see posts online from fans of other teams who didn’t think it was a penalty either. The only people I’ve seen generally insistent it’s a penalty have been Hibs and Celtic fans which is fairly telling imo.

A tangle of legs caused by a player is a foul, as per Dermot Gallacher's view on what the ref's opinion was.

"The defender tries to get across him there - but the referee thinks it's clumsy and gives a penalty. I think when you see that the on-field decision is always going to stand, the VAR is not going to intervene because he is of the opinion it's tangled legs caused by a Rangers player."

No chance is Hagi goal side, he is on the wrong side of Campbell and he doesn't get his body or legs in front , he puts one leg in front causing the tumble/tangle.

You should have listened to Sportsound, the Rangers fan that spoke about it agreed with Neil Lennon's summary (that says a lot when a Rangers fan agrees with Lennon) - if you are Hibs you're claiming for it and if your Rangers you're disputing it.

What social media are you looking at about it? On Follow Follow there are as many (maybe more) saying it was a penalty than saying it wasn't. Similar with Hearts fans. That's very telling imo.

https://www.followfollow.com/forum/threads/need-to-call-out-the-penalty.290199/

[Real Emerald]

If you’re running with the ball and another player clearly pushes you over, it’s a free kick. There is no other way to describe it, I can’t get my head around anyone thinking any different. If it was given against us I’d completely understand why it was given. As usual it’s another uproar from them for not getting their own way.

[Pagan Hibernia]

We got the pen. The Huns are spewing. What's not to like? :greengrin

This. I actually prefer it when we get decisions against them that are controversial or flat out dodgy (not that this one was).

Absolutely love seeing them angry. Mind you, let's be honest, some of them came out of the womb angry.

[Hibs1969]

The sheer joy every other team gets from the Huns’ red faced, spit flecked fury when these decisions go against them is absolutely delightful. For the club who went 75 or so games without conceding a penalty in a league game to scream about conspiracy theories is both hysterical and off the scale ironic.

The fact that it was a soft penalty makes it even more delicious.

[007]

We are top of the penalty league table and Rangers are bottom. 😲

Guessing we'd be towards the bottom of the conversion ratio table.

https://i.ibb.co/WGBz8kb/IMG-4653.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[PHeffernan]

Interesting only Dermot had view on Diomande tackle the views on the pen are ridiculous though should have showed replay again. Completely ignored barge in the back. Probably don’t want hate mail

I thought Gallagher was right on all 3 incidents. Ex players were both slavering on the penalties. It showed they, like many supporters, don't understand how the VAR protocols work. The penalty decision though soft was never being changed.

[blackpoolhibs]

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[Chorley Hibee]

https://x.com/i/status/1876342393835868437

There's already Huns on there trying to tell everyone that was a stonewall penalty. 🤣

The mental gymnastics they go through to convince themselves is absolutely mind blowing.

[Pagan Hibernia]

We are top of the penalty league table and Rangers are bottom. 😲

Guessing we'd be towards the bottom of the conversion ratio table.

https://i.ibb.co/WGBz8kb/IMG-4653.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Why are hearts above rangers if they've conceded two more than them?

[BoomtownHibees]

Why are hearts above rangers if they've conceded two more than them?

I’m guessing it’s based on penalties won and then alphabetical order. If you look at all the teams who have won 5, it then isn’t in order of penalties conceded

[Centre Hawf]

I thought the penalty itself was a tad on the softer side than some would like to admit. But I think as well that it's nowhere near this horrible decision some in the media are making out it is. It's clumsy from Hagi and while he maybe nips in front of Campbell I think we've finally for once had the old 'benefit of doubt goes to the attacker' which against Rangers is a total rarity.

[hibsbollah]

Crocker was dreadful yesterday. His continual narrative that the Huns were in complete control for the whole of the first half became tiresome. I would agree that for the first 30 minutes they were but the last 15 minutes were dominated by us. I am sure there was a stat shown which confirmed us dominating possession and having more possession in the final 3rd

Id agree but id go furtherthan that, even in the first 20 minutes we were playing some good stuff, we were let down by the two individual mistakes, as well as Miller giving possession up cheaply, but as the half progressed we were taking control of midfield thanks to Nectar and Joshs good work and the goal was the least we deserved. Expected goals at halftime tend to back this up.

[BroxburnHibee]

Fully expect the VAR review panel to say it shouldn't have been given. Can't be upsetting their Hun masters.

[weecounty hibby]

Its a penalty all day long. The couple of sane huns I've spoken to agreed. They are also very aware that all this is deflection from a ***** manager with a ***** team who will finish 2nd miles behind the winner in a 2 horse race. The sad thing is that it's being enabled by the Scottish media

[Roxyhibee]

Before the ball even reaches them, the defender knows he’s not getting to it and Campbell is lining up a shot, so starts to infringe on Campbell and gives him a clear mid body nudge for good measure just as the ball does finally gets there. Clear penalty. Couldn’t give a sht what the panel thinks, they’ll likely pander to those whingeing, entitled * as they always do.

[gbhibby]

We are top of the penalty league table and Rangers are bottom. 😲

Guessing we'd be towards the bottom of the conversion ratio table.

https://i.ibb.co/WGBz8kb/IMG-4653.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
A bit of East Coast bias 🤔

[Real Emerald]

I thought the penalty itself was a tad on the softer side than some would like to admit. But I think as well that it's nowhere near this horrible decision some in the media are making out it is. It's clumsy from Hagi and while he maybe nips in front of Campbell I think we've finally for once had the old 'benefit of doubt goes to the attacker' which against Rangers is a total rarity.

The only nipping in front of Campbell that happened was due to Campbell being elbowed in the ribs and knocked over as he was about to shoot. There is nothing at all legal about how Campbell was bundled off the ball. It’s a foul and therefore a penalty and there is nothing soft about it. 😁

[superfurryhibby]

Before the ball even reaches them, the defender knows he’s not getting to it and Campbell is lining up a shot, so starts to infringe on Campbell and gives him a clear mid body nudge for good measure just as the ball does finally gets there. Clear penalty. Couldn’t give a sht what the panel thinks, they’ll likely pander to those whingeing, entitled * as they always do.

Agree. Hagi doesn't get a touch on the ball, it's all based on contact with Campbell. JOsh showed experience to draw the rash attempt from the Hun daftie and he fell for it, hook, lime and sinker. 100% penalty.

[Donegal Hibby]

Fully expect the VAR review panel to say it shouldn't have been given. Can't be upsetting their Hun masters.

I wonder where that would put their opinions on the one we lost to St Johnstone which I thought was soft and yet some of our fans thought it was a penalty all day long and our one against the huns was either soft or not a penalty…

I suppose that’s what makes football so interesting at times in fans have very different opinions on it .. no wonder football was once described as “ A funny old game “ 🤭

[Centre Hawf]

The only nipping in front of Campbell that happened was due to Campbell being elbowed in the ribs and knocked over as he was about to shoot. There is nothing at all legal about how Campbell was bundled off the ball. It’s a foul and therefore a penalty and there is nothing soft about it. 😁

Yeah you're probably right to be honest, it's not exactly "shoulder to shoulder" as some in the media make out and Hagi does get in at his body and basically elbows and shove him in the ribs and round the back of his body.

[Dibben]

‘Hagi got his foot in front of a Campbell, then Campbell kicked HIM and then get a penalty… scandalous’!

You’ve just described a trip… 🤦*♂️🤣🤣

[matty_f]

I thought the penalty itself was a tad on the softer side than some would like to admit. But I think as well that it's nowhere near this horrible decision some in the media are making out it is. It's clumsy from Hagi and while he maybe nips in front of Campbell I think we've finally for once had the old 'benefit of doubt goes to the attacker' which against Rangers is a total rarity.

I think how Hagi gets in front of Campbell is the issue, and that the ball is coming from Campbell’s side. I do think it’s a clear penalty and the fuss has been contrived, as usual, by Rangers to put pressure on referees in future.

[ChilliEater]

I don't know how anyone can look at that and think there is any way it couldn't be a penalty. It's as stone wall as they get.

[PHeffernan]

It's classic defending player on the wrong side of the ball in the penalty area and trying to retrieve the situation but the attacking player Campbell physically holds his line which results in him being bundled over by the desperate defending player Hagi.

It has similarities to the penalty conceded by Obita against Rangers last season where Obita was wrong side of the Rangers player but continued to aggressively persue him closely in the penalty area, the Rangers player slowed down and Obita ran into the back of him knocking him over. Poor and naive decision making by Obita in that case.
If a defending player is on the wrong side of the ball and attacker in the penalty area they need to allow someone in a better position to challenge if at all possible.
Hagi had a chance but Campbells physical strength prevented him from getting into Campbells lane without fouling him with the ball always on Campbells side.

Good strong play by Campbell to hold his advantage.
Good decision by Beaten and VAR were never going to change it because there was no obvious error.

[Not In The Know]

This is like one of those memes where, is the dress blue and black, or white and gold...


FWIW its White and gold and a stonewaller!




https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/The_dress_blueblackwhitegold.jpg

[JeMeSouviens]

Hagi is maybe slightly in front of him in terms of how far up the pitch they are i.e. he's an inch or two closer to the goal line. However, the ball is coming from the left and Hagi is the wrong side of Campbell so he's directly behind him in relation to where the ball is coming from. Hagi sticks his foot in front of Campbell trying to get the ball but in doing so he doesn't get it and causes the tangle of legs and they both fall together on top of the ball.

Clear penalty to me, Hagi on the wrong side, clumsily goes for the ball, misses and causes the tangle. And that's before you even mention it was more of a barge than shoulder to shoulder.


You're bang on - here it is slowed down from behind to make it a bit more clear:

https://streamable.com/dvibzj

[ancient hibee]

If a tackle is made in the penalty area and the tackler is not goalside 95% of the time it’ll be a penalty. Rangers have long benefited from their defenders always being part of the 5% who make the perfect tackle. Welcome to Club Reality.

[Donegal Hibby]

You're bang on - here it is slowed down from behind to make it a bit more clear:

https://streamable.com/dvibzj

I think that is pretty conclusive that it is a penalty without any doubts .. Hagi doesn’t get the ball but blatantly pushes/ shoves Campbell

[Bobby's Cinema]

It’s a stonewall penalty. You’d never, ever complain if that was given against us.

The problem is that we gave a system where the FA, media, majority of top flight referees, and more are based in Glasgow and surrounding areas. Credit to Beaton for giving the penalty because although it’s not a tough decision, at least it was given.
The final angle from the far side of the East stand is the telling one. It shows Campbell is infront and he clusmily brings him down.

I'm sorry but I'm not listening to anyone calling Rocky clumsy for a soft as **** foul at St Johnstone, and then saying that's not a pen.

If we concede that pen I am calling it clumsy and stupid all day long.

[Ralphy C]

Kilmarnock got a penalty the previous week after a similar challenge by Gogic and it wasnt even discussed as being soft.

[JimBHibees]

I think that is pretty conclusive that it is a penalty without any doubts .. Hagi doesn’t get the ball but blatantly pushes/ shoves Campbell

Yep clear as day. Dry your eyes Philippe

[A Hi-Bee]

How many times can you skin a dead cat ffs, it was a penalty end of. Don't play there daft games and perpetuate the award.:greengrin

[gbhibby]

Can we close this thread got the penalty, Boyle scored everything else including VAR review is irrelevant.

[PHeffernan]

You're bang on - here it is slowed down from behind to make it a bit more clear:

https://streamable.com/dvibzj

Do I not like that

Beautiful

[007]

It's classic defending player on the wrong side of the ball in the penalty area and trying to retrieve the situation but the attacking player Campbell physically holds his line which results in him being bundled over by the desperate defending player Hagi.

It has similarities to the penalty conceded by Obita against Rangers last season where Obita was wrong side of the Rangers player but continued to aggressively persue him closely in the penalty area, the Rangers player slowed down and Obita ran into the back of him knocking him over. Poor and naive decision making by Obita in that case.
If a defending player is on the wrong side of the ball and attacker in the penalty area they need to allow someone in a better position to challenge or risk giving a penalty away.
Hagi had a chance but Campbells physical strength prevented Hagi from getting into Campbells lane without fouling him with the ball always on Campbells side.

Good strong play by Campbell to hold his advantage.
Good decision by Beaten and VAR were never going to change it because it wasn't an obvious error.

The Obita one came to my mind too. I guess what the defender should do in that situation is to accept they are not going to get to it in time and allow the shot, hoping they don't score and trying to get as close as possible to put them off but without fouling. That, however, would be very difficult to do and is unlikely to happen as you'd expect the defender to do his utmost to make up the ground to try and get the ball but he's not really going to know he can't quite get to it until he's tried and failed. He'd probably get slated if he didn't try 100% to get it.

[evy]

The KMI Review Panel have voted 3-2 that it was a penalty and VAR not intervening was also correct as the penalty award was a subjective decision.

That'll put an end to the poo-pooing.....

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/12502/kmi-outcomes-5th-8th-9th-jan-2025.pdf

[Crab apple]

The KMI Review Panel have voted 3-2 that it was a penalty and VAR not intervening was also correct as the penalty award was a subjective decision.

That'll put an end to the poo-pooing.....

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/12502/kmi-outcomes-5th-8th-9th-jan-2025.pdf

It was absolutely the coŕrect decision. I wonder if the under fire Belgian will admit that his team got a let off last night as Dundee deserved a penalty.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It was absolutely the coŕrect decision. I wonder if the under fire Belgian will admit that his team got a let off last night as Dundee deserved a penalty.

Panel were unanimous that wasn’t a penalty.

[Mon Dieu4]

I'm more annoyed that 5-0 said that the ref was right not to give a card when we have a player who has his ankle stamped on, Newell got sent off for less this season alone

[Danderhall Hibs]

I'm more annoyed that 5-0 said that the ref was right not to give a card when we have a player who has his ankle stamped on, Newell got sent off for less this season alone

They can’t give a yellow card - only the ref can.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The KMI Review Panel have voted 3-2 that it was a penalty and VAR not intervening was also correct as the penalty award was a subjective decision.

That'll put an end to the poo-pooing.....

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/12502/kmi-outcomes-5th-8th-9th-jan-2025.pdf

Not exactly the absolute stonewaller people have made it out to be based on that, which is roughly what seems to be the impression from neutral fans as well.

[Mon Dieu4]

They can’t give a yellow card - only the ref can.

I know that but the actual thing says possible red card, no card given, then they voted to 5-0 to say that it was the onfield decision was the correct one, that says to me they voted 5-0 that they are quite happy that it wasn't a red and no card was given which is nonsense, maybe I'm reading it the wrong way

[Crab apple]

Panel were unanimous that wasn’t a penalty.

They were also unanimous that it was the correct decision not to red card Diamande for the stamp on Nicky Cadden.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I know that but the actual thing says possible red card, no card given, then they voted to 5-0 to say that it was the onfield decision was the correct one, that says to me they voted 5-0 that they are quite happy that it wasn't a red and no card was given which is nonsense, maybe I'm reading it the wrong way

I can see how it can be read like that but due to the application of VaR they’re not allowed to say give a yellow so my assumes that’s what they mean.