NMW over Levitt?

[Bob1875]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

[JohnM1875]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

Thought Levitt was bang average against St Johnstone last week and having him on against Sevco would give me the fear. They’d easily play round him.

[Mcbizz1998]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

Opinions eh. I thought NMW looked good.

[Allant1981]

Game was to fast paced for Levitt I think, he isn't the quickest or mobile, I think the game would have passed him by if he had came on

[BoomtownHibees]

Levitt doesn’t do enough of the dirty side of the game for a match like today

[Bob1875]

Opinions eh. I thought NMW looked good.

Gave the ball away a good few times and one ended up leading to their goal.

[Bob1875]

Levitt doesn’t do enough of the dirty side of the game for a match like today

I agree, that’s why Kwon started but I felt we needed someone on that could keep the ball.

[Mcbizz1998]

Gave the ball away a good few times and one ended up leading to their goal.

Other than the one that led to the goal, I can’t remember any obvious ones. He was better than Kwon anyway.

[Helensburghhibs]

I thought for someone who hasn't played nmw was very good. Much more positive and great energy. That sub changed the game for me

[JohnM1875]

Other than the one that led to the goal, I can’t remember any obvious ones. He was better than Kwon anyway.

Think he had one other shanner of a pass straight to them. But other than that he also won the ball back a good few times and closed down well. I've always wanted to see him get more game time though so maybe being a bit bias.

[Pretty Boy]

I thought Moriah Welsh done ok when he came on, added a bit drive that had been sorely lacking from Kwon.

You can't ignore the sloppiness for the goal though. He had 2 easy options and he ignored both to make a costly error.

The bench today was sorely lacking in options. We need a lot better in and guys like NMW and Levitt will be the guys who may well make way to create space for them.

[LaMotta]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

He has more energy than Levitt which is why the sub made sense I think. I thought Levitt was decent v St Johnstone, clever use of the ball v 10 men. Think Gray got both subs right.

Although there is an argument now for Kwon not starting again.

[JohnM1875]

Think it's worth remembering NMW has barely played any football, to be chucked into a game like that one will take time to adjust.

[CapitalGreen]

Think it's worth remembering NMW has barely played any football, to be chucked into a game like that one will take time to adjust.

His passing was rank when he was starting most weeks last season too. That being said, I’ve always felt his best role is that of a pressing midfielder where he can use his energy to win the ball back high up the field - he’s not someone you can trust to sit and shield the back line.

[kentao]

Poor pass for their 3rd, thought he wasn't great but did have a couple of good interception / pressing plays to get the ball back. Really needs to get more time on the pitch but will find it hard with Newell and Triantis. Kwon also looks a shadow of the player from the start of his Hibs loan.

[A Hi-Bee]

I thought for someone who hasn't played nmw was very good. Much more positive and great energy. That sub changed the game for me

:top marks

[Bob1875]

Think it's worth remembering NMW has barely played any football, to be chucked into a game like that one will take time to adjust.

I definitely get that. If anything that underlines our lack of depth the fact that he was our only sub of the game against Rangers. DG mustn’t trust anyone else on the bench.

[Nicho87]

Was poor in the rangers third goal. But I still really like NMW, looks like he cares and wants to do well.

Levitt, for me that ship has sailed.

[cameronw-hfc]

Considering he's not kicked a ball in months and won't be anywhere near match sharp, thought NMW done well. Came on to a frantic game probably a good bit short of match fitness and settled well after a shaky start

[1875Sean]

Thought NMW did well, was slack with a few passes but showed energy and aggression which levitt lacks

[HIBS NUTS]

KWON was terrible, he never affects a game in any way,constantly passing backwards, NWW done some good, some loose passing, but he at least got involved.
Our squad is so light.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Can see why NMW hasn't been getting any minutes. At fault for the 3rd Rangers goal and can't pass to save himself. Maybe chalk it down to not being Match sharp. If its a choice between him and Kwon then I would probably go for him as he makes up for his lack of technical ability with his pace and aggression. The opposite could be said of Kwon

[Chorley Hibee]

Would be happy to see Kwon's loan terminated with immediate effect.

Lost count the amount of times he allows an opposition player to drift off him.

[Bob1875]

Would be happy to see Kwon's loan terminated with immediate effect.

Lost count the amount of times he allows an opposition player to drift off him.

Makes you question how he’s ended up at Celtic, what have they seen.

[Up-the-slope]

He has a lot of attributes of drive and aggression and is a decent passer; but he is young and injury has robbed him of game time. I would rather have him and the like (JC comes into that category) who might make the odd mistake but will press and try to make things happen rather than like Kwon who is one safe pass (mostly backwards) after another, at a passive pace that does not press the opposition or pose them problems

and YES to original question - while Levitt can make incisive passes he does not do it often enough and fails when aggression is needed to get a grip of games

[Stevie Reid]

I’m not a fan of NMW at all, and he was heavily culpable for that third goal.

However, he brought much needed energy, was involved in some very good passages of play, and won the ball high up the park a few times.

Was the right kind of sub, at the right time for me. Pace of the game was too hectic for Levitt.

[greenlex]

I thought Moriah Welsh done ok when he came on, added a bit drive that had been sorely lacking from Kwon.

You can't ignore the sloppiness for the goal though. He had 2 easy options and he ignored both to make a costly error.

The bench today was sorely lacking in options. We need a lot better in and guys like NMW and Levitt will be the guys who may well make way to create space for them.

I’m thinking there was loads of passages of play that at least half a dozen players could have done better at the third goal and to single out NMW as what I would call a major contributor is fairly harsh. Misplaced pass for sure but there was several opportunities to stop that goal long before the boy got the shot away.

[greenlex]

He has a lot of attributes of drive and aggression and is a decent passer; but he is young and injury has robbed him of game time. I would rather have him and the like (JC comes into that category) who might make the odd mistake but will press and try to make things happen rather than like Kwon who is one safe pass (mostly backwards) after another, at a passive pace that does not press the opposition or pose them problems

and YES to original question - while Levitt can make incisive passes he does not do it often enough and fails when aggression is needed to get a grip of games

It was NMW over Levitt because Levitt couldn’t tackle a fish supper.

[snedzuk]

Kwon was poor, again. I get he will be dropped when Newell comes back, but NMW is our player and if possible, I'd be looking to end Kwons loan.

[Tambo]

I thought NMW done well in is appearance, did give the ball away a couple times but eager to win it back, gave good energy and completed a few passes.

Question is can he come on or start next week and play the same.

[Waxy]

Would be happy to see Kwon's loan terminated with immediate effect.

Lost count the amount of times he allows an opposition player to drift off him.

Oh well. Here today Kwon tomorrow

[Fifth Amendmen]

If you put the 3 of them into one you have player .

[Musselbound]

Would be happy to see Kwon's loan terminated with immediate effect.

Lost count the amount of times he allows an opposition player to drift off him.

Can we do that?

I'd agree that he is no better than what we've got and would rather give a chance to players that belong to Hibs.

[hibsbollah]

NMW did some good some bad yesterday. It was good to see another option in that area.

[Smartie]

Apart from a couple of notably poor contributions NMW was good imo. His energy, at a time when I thought Rangers were looking visibly leggy, I thought had helped tip the balance of play at that time in our favour.

I don’t like to think of myself as all that unforgiving but I find it so hard to get over so much of what Levitt has done in a Hibs jersey, so much of which has been so poor. Whilst NMW’s energy imo helped swing the game in our favour, Levitt’s lethargy could well have tipped it the other way.

And I’m another who thinks Kwon was poor. He looks all the world to me like a failed Celtic “project” and we’d be better off with him learning his trade elsewhere.

[Brightside]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

We needed energy. NMW gave us that. A few mistakes as you would expect of someone who hasn't played much football. But Levitt would have provided very little in that game imo.

[tonyrougier123]

I think Levitt hasn’t been the type of player we are looking for but he will definitely be what some teams are looking for. Before he signed with us Utd fans described him as a luxury player for them, I think for us he’s not even been that. There’s some neat football in the lad but overall he’s not industrious enough in midfield from what I’ve seen. Big disappointment as there was many on here raving about him to be signed.

[Jones28]

For me Levitt looked neat and tidy against Saints, but he was playing in a deeper midfield role against a team that were camped in their own penalty area and had a man sent off. I'm not a footballer by any stretch but it looked a fairly easy job, he wasn't under any pressure and NMW when he came on on Sunday I thought offered energy and drive that Kwon and Levitt didn't have. He had a total brain fart for their 3rd but his pressing and general play was pretty good and I think he might have put himself in contention for being that midfield 3rd choice when Newall is back fit.

If I was SDG I'd play the same starting 11 as much as possible against Motherwell and look to bring NMW in again when the legs tire in midfield. Hopefully it will be Newall instead of Kwon but I don't think Kwon was terrible against Rangers, he hasn't played a lot of football and he did fine against Hearts when he came on for Newall. He wants too much time on the ball and needs to move it quicker.

[The Harp Awakes]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

I agree with you. I actually would have had Levitt starting ahead of Kwon as well.

I get the critism on here about Levitt not being aggressive enough, but the reason Rangers were steamrolling us the first 25 mins was due to us having no control of the ball in midfield. Levitt has done just that the few times he's been involved this season and I can't see anything Kwon or NMW have done to justify their inclusion over him.

Kwon was absolutely woeful on Sunday without the ball. He was strolling around, yards off his man constantly.

[TT07]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

Nobody denies that when we are on top possesion wise that Levitt thrives but when we are out of possession Levitt struggles postionly and diesnt track runners.
I think Levitt is a very good footballer but not in this team.

[tamig]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

NMW made a big contribution when he came on - coupled with a change in formation. We started pressing much higher and saw far more of the ball leading to a very hard fought point. Totally different players and unfair to compare for me. We needed dig and energy on Sunday and Levitt doesn’t offer that.

[Scouse Hibee]

For me a strange sub, and just shows our lack of depth. I thought Levitt looked very assured on the ball last week when he came on. We could have done with that today. Thought DG got that decision wrong.

I thought it was a game changing substitution and DG got it spot on.

[J-C]

NMW gave the ball away yes but it was in their half and Rangers still had to play through our midfield and defence to score,so a sloppy pass but others were poor at that goal. I think he did fine apart from that and added a bit of drive and energy to the midfield.

[basehibby]

NMW & Levitt are such different players - from NMW we've seen great energy but little finesse - while Levitt seems to have plenty of ability but lacks application. As another poster commented above, if you could combine them as a unit we'd have some player! SDG did not have that option on Sun but his choice to bring on NMW was a good one - he got right in the faces of a tiring Rangers and helped tip the balance our way in the closing stages.

[Jones28]

NMW & Levitt are such different players - from NMW we've seen great energy but little finesse - while Levitt seems to have plenty of ability but lacks application. As another poster commented above, if you could combine them as a unit we'd have some player! SDG did not have that option on Sun but his choice to bring on NMW was a good one - he got right in the faces of a tiring Rangers and helped tip the balance our way in the closing stages.

I think thats a bit harsh, he's not had a lot of game time and aside from 1 pass on Sunday he was tidy enough on the ball.

I'd rather have NMW bring his energy and decent enough passing, Levitt just doesn't do enough off the ball.

It's healthy to have different options, Levitt against Saints was a good option because we needed a passer, NMW against Rangers for his energy. Like you say they're different players for different situations.

[Craig_HFC]

I think thats a bit harsh, he's not had a lot of game time and aside from 1 pass on Sunday he was tidy enough on the ball.

I'd rather have NMW bring his energy and decent enough passing, Levitt just doesn't do enough off the ball.

It's healthy to have different options, Levitt against Saints was a good option because we needed a passer, NMW against Rangers for his energy. Like you say they're different players for different situations.

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[Jones28]

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Just call me Lee.

[McD]

NMW made a big contribution when he came on - coupled with a change in formation. We started pressing much higher and saw far more of the ball leading to a very hard fought point. Totally different players and unfair to compare for me. We needed dig and energy on Sunday and Levitt doesn’t offer that.


When NMW came on, I thought it was noticeable that we began pinning rangers back more, he was winning the ball quite high up the pitch, and/or causing rangers issues in advancing the ball. They were still attacking, but they were experiencing more difficulty in how they wanted to play forward.


I actually thought he looked a bit rusty, his touch and passing were a bit off, but he had a big impact with his pressing, energy and tackling, and him doing that allowed us to be more front foot

[HIBS NUTS]

I think both will leave in January, if they get clubs.
Kwon can’t run , so if possible send him back, we need players on the bench pushing for a place , not players coming on, just because they are the only option.

[erin go bragh]

Different type of player but I thought NMW had a positive impact on the game against them on Sunday albeit he was part of us losing the third goal.
Levitt imo has to play the no 10 roll or not at all as games just pass him by but what do i know 😂

[hibsbollah]

I still think Kwon will find his feet. I totally accept the point that as a loanee we should focus on our own players first; much will depend on Joes fitness and not getting other casualties as to whether Kwon gets more chances.