Miller

[dastardly8]

Blame Miller for that penalty , stupid loss of possession leading to the corners before the penalty

[Hibee Mac]

Was about to post the same thing, silly penalty to give away but it wouldn't have even had a chance to happen if Miller hadn't done that

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[Mcbizz1998]

Spends more time changing his ****ing haircut than training it looks like. Get rid.

[Tully]

Still no need for rocky to be doing that absolutely stupid

[dalkeith stu]

Still no need for rocky to be doing that absolutely stupid

Tbf it looked like the boy ran into Rocky and he went down!!!

[dastardly8]

Agreed get rid , he has too many mistakes in his game and with 3 at the back it’s not what you want
Spends more time changing his ****ing haircut than training it looks like. Get rid.

[Unseen work]

How he think he’s got that much time when Sidibeh is up against him I’ll never know

[HIBS NUTS]

I’m afraid if you like miller on not, that’s 100 percent, Rocky he was actually lucky he didn’t get a second yellow.
Whats he doing they are down to 10 men, and pushes him, he was never getting away with that, when VAR is there

[Boyle89]

Miller was clear motm last game. Like it or not, every player that has and will play for hibs will do stupid things.

[Smartie]

Miller was clear motm last game. Like it or not, every player that has and will play for hibs will do stupid things.

That’s Miller though - motm one week, absolute clown the next. He’s been the same since he joined.

You either accept that and deem it good enough or not. He’s not going to change or improve.

Imo if you’re wanting to be a top 4 side you need more consistent, you need better than Miller.

[Ozyhibby]

He’s cost us two points today.


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[The Captain....]

His mentality is so weak, gets drawn in to stupid confrontations and feuds trying to act the hard man. gives away daft foul and consistently loses concentration.

Has all the physical attributes to be a decent player in that position but he's his own worst enemy imo


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[blackpoolhibs]

How did Miller cost us 2 points today, he didnt drag the St Johnstone player to the ground when the ball was miles over his head?

Miller was poor, granted, back to his usual theartics and taking too long on the ball, but Rocky gave the penalty away.

[Ozyhibby]

How did Miller cost us 2 points today, he didnt drag the St Johnstone player to the ground when the ball was miles over his head?

Miller was poor, granted, back to his usual theartics and taking too long on the ball, but Rocky gave the penalty away.

Wouldn’t have been a cross in the first place had Miller not needlessly gifted them the ball under zero pressure and lots of options available to him. He decided he could dribble it himself though. Clown.


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[blackpoolhibs]

Wouldn’t have been a cross in the first place had Miller not needlessly gifted them the ball under zero pressure and lots of options available to him. He decided he could dribble it himself though. Clown.


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Dont be daft, we defend crosses all game, it's part of the game, you dont drag players down irrespective of what has happened in the run up to a corner.

[Ozyhibby]

Dont be daft, we defend crosses all game, it's part of the game, you dont drag players down irrespective of what has happened in the run up to a corner.

I’m not saying Ricky is blameless, I’m saying with 1 minute to go in the half against 10 men, you don’t dribble out when you are last man and under no pressure.


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[HIBS NUTS]

Wouldn’t have been a cross in the first place had Miller not needlessly gifted them the ball under zero pressure and lots of options available to him. He decided he could dribble it himself though. Clown.


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It was Rocky cost us points, Miller gave a corner away, we gave a few needless corners away, not just that one.
By all means, not like Miller, but that’s just being silly.

[Allant1981]

It was Rocky cost us points, Miller gave a corner away, we gave a few needless corners away, not just that one.
By all means, not like Miller, but that’s just being silly.

Yip 100% that was on rocky today

[blackpoolhibs]

I’m not saying Ricky is blameless, I’m saying with 1 minute to go in the half against 10 men, you don’t dribble out when you are last man and under no pressure.


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Bianca agrees,:wink: and of course he should be doing better, but we've defended his mistake and then Rocky has another brain fart that he has lots of that cost us goals.

Defend the corner properly and its not a penalty.

[Ozyhibby]

Bianca agrees,:wink: and of course he should be doing better, but we've defended his mistake and then Rocky has another brain fart that he has lots of that cost us goals.

Defend the corner properly and its not a penalty.

I’m not disagreeing on Rocky. He needs to cut out those brain farts. Miller just annoys me because he was under no pressure and chose to dribble with a minute to go.


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[blackpoolhibs]

I’m not disagreeing on Rocky. He needs to cut out those brain farts. Miller just annoys me because he was under no pressure and chose to dribble with a minute to go.


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I dont like him either, i personally would not give him a new contract, but that goal is all rocky.

[AdidasHibernian]

Yet some people think he is decent and it was a genius bit of business as we will get a big profit for him when he goes.. 😂😂 However it was Rockys fault there for me but he is just as bad.

Played good against Killie last week and he is a world beater, he is crap. Hopefully goes with half the others.

[Donegal Hibby]

Tbf it looked like the boy ran into Rocky and he went down!!!

I thought it was very soft . It was Miller that was at fault IMO that initially lead to us ending up under pressure when he should have just cleared the ball .

[Shrekko]

Never seen a player who puts HIMSELF into trouble so often when it’s completely needless.

It’s not just now and then - it’s regularly.

I’m sick of players that you can trust. I don’t mind the occasional mistake at this level but Miler puts me on edge every time he’s near the ball.

To do what he did at that stage of the game was just unforgivable.

[B.H.F.C]

I thought it was very soft . It was Miller that was at fault IMO that initially lead to us ending up under pressure when he should have just cleared the ball .

Of course the centre half who never looked at the ball once was blameless eh.

Miller was pish as well and that’s just him. It’s the same type of thing we’ve seen from the pair of them for ages now.

[Donegal Hibby]

Of course the centre half who never looked at the ball once was blameless eh.

Miller was pish as well and that’s just him. It’s the same type of thing we’ve seen from the pair of them for ages now.

Down to Miller for me that we ended up under unnecessary pressure when he should just have cleared the ball .. besides the penalty which I thought was soft tbh I thought Rocky had a decent game and has been playing well since the 3-3 game .

[davym7062]

Down to Miller for me that we ended up under unnecessary pressure when he should just have cleared the ball .. besides the penalty which I thought was soft tbh I thought Rocky had a decent game and has been playing well since the 3-3 game .

if shankland hat hit that shot in the last min first time when rocky is on his arse everyone goin mental. hes not good enuff

[Hiber-nation]

I thought it was very soft . It was Miller that was at fault IMO that initially lead to us ending up under pressure when he should have just cleared the ball .

Watch it again. It was dreadful by Rocky.

[Donegal Hibby]

if shankland hat hit that shot in the last min first time when rocky is on his arse everyone goin mental. hes not good enuff

I disagree respectfully as I think he’s been good since coming back in … one thing that has surprised me today which it probably shouldn’t have is the reaction on here after the last few games is ….

It’s either nice and calm or blowing a gayle on here , never seems to be any middle ground for some reason.:confused:

[CapitalGreen]

Down to Miller for me that we ended up under unnecessary pressure when he should just have cleared the ball .. besides the penalty which I thought was soft tbh I thought Rocky had a decent game and has been playing well since the 3-3 game .

Last season when Rocky needlessly conceded a corner that lead to Killie’s equaliser in Monty’s first game you said he shouldn’t be blamed for the goal because the defenders should have dealt with the corner. Yet here you are, a year later, taking the complete opposite position - blaming the person who conceded the corner in order to defend those who should have dealt with the corner.

[J-C]

The majority of players at Hibs are very inconsistent and will always make mistakes, that's why they're here and not at betters clubs, this will not change until we spend more on quality and less on dross.

[Donegal Hibby]

Last season when Rocky needlessly conceded a corner that lead to Killie’s equaliser in Monty’s first game you said he shouldn’t be blamed for the goal because the defenders should have dealt with the corner. Yet here you are, a year later, taking the complete opposite position - blaming the person who conceded the corner in order to defend those who should have dealt with the corner.

If I remember correctly Rocky was under a bit of pressure in that incident. Today Miller was under none but just took too much time on it instead of clearing…

Since coming back into the team we have only lost once in 8 games which was to Celtic at park head and included trips to Fir Park , Pittodrie and tiny which we have all won …

And it’s been said how well Rocky has been playing , how good his character is but now because we have a blip there’s a pile on against the guy which I think is OTT to be honest…

I think a bit of perspective is needed about today’s result even though it was disappointing in the injuries we had and some of the games we had too …

17 points from 24 with Rocky in the team ain’t bad IMO .

[500miles]

There seems to be a massive overreaction to Miller overplaying and giving away a penalty so Rocky can dodge blame for something.

Rocky has always had a problem dealing with crosses, his (considerable)strength is dealing with players on the run - which is most defenders weakest point. It was 99% his fault. Corners are pretty inevitable, crashing into opposition players isn't.

[CapitalGreen]

If I remember correctly Rocky was under a bit of pressure in that incident. Today Miller was under none but just took too much time on it instead of clearing…


They both had the opportunity to clear it but tried to be too clever.

[B.H.F.C]

There seems to be a massive overreaction to Miller overplaying and giving away a penalty so Rocky can dodge blame for something.

Rocky has always had a problem dealing with crosses, his (considerable)strength is dealing with players on the run - which is most defenders weakest point. It was 99% his fault. Corners are pretty inevitable, crashing into opposition players isn't.

All started from Miller but Rocky is absolutely the one that makes the most critical and crucial mistake.

They are the two defenders that are out of contract in the summer. We absolutely have to move them on at that point IMO. Otherwise we’ll be having the same conversation next year and there won’t be any space created in the squad to improve that area.

[Keepthefaith]

There seems to be a massive overreaction to Miller overplaying and giving away a penalty so Rocky can dodge blame for something.

Rocky has always had a problem dealing with crosses, his (considerable)strength is dealing with players on the run - which is most defenders weakest point. It was 99% his fault. Corners are pretty inevitable, crashing into opposition players isn't.

you could see / hear how frustrated gray was with him in the post match interview - he does reference sloppiness beforehand (ie Miller) but clearly berates the fact that Rocky was reckless. must be infuriating for a manager!

FWIW I do think both Miller and Rocky have strong points but whether they stay or go depends hugely on the quality we bring in to replace them. like others have said, we're not rich enough or have high enough status to buy players who are consistently good!

[Donegal Hibby]

They both had the opportunity to clear it but tried to be too clever.

Your probably right on that though in Rocky’s case he was trying to buy a free kick and was under more pressure than Miller was who probably had more options in what he could do with the ball if I remember correctly . Apart from the whole penalty incident I thought Rocky had a good game and at times had to cover either flank and done well against Sidibeh considering the guys got pace to burn …

For me that was on Miller today though he’s another player I like and don’t want him hung , drawn and quartered about it either .. think since the Aberdeen 3-3 game we have improved and done well .

[Dmas]

If I remember correctly Rocky was under a bit of pressure in that incident. Today Miller was under none but just took too much time on it instead of clearing…

Since coming back into the team we have only lost once in 8 games which was to Celtic at park head and included trips to Fir Park , Pittodrie and tiny which we have all won …

And it’s been said how well Rocky has been playing , how good his character is but now because we have a blip there’s a pile on against the guy which I think is OTT to be honest…

I think a bit of perspective is needed about today’s result even though it was disappointing in the injuries we had and some of the games we had too …

17 points from 24 with Rocky in the team ain’t bad IMO .

You can’t talk about perspective whilst laying our turn around solely on including Rocky in the team, we have changed formation which has helped Nicky Caden tremendously, included Iredale and changed a goal keeper who was chucking them in.

I don’t think anyone would argue Rocky has some good qualities as a defender he done very well today I thought other than the brain fart at the corner, the issue is that these brain farts are part and parcel of his game, opposition players and fans expect from Rocky, the 8 games you’ve mentioned him being involved in he’s scored and OG and gave away a penalty, add them to the list we have from previous seasons you can understand why he’s being criticised.

[Donegal Hibby]

You can’t talk about perspective whilst laying our turn around solely on including Rocky in the team, we have changed formation which has helped Nicky Caden tremendously, included Iredale and changed a goal keeper who was chucking them in.

I don’t think anyone would argue Rocky has some good qualities as a defender he done very well today I thought other than the brain fart at the corner, the issue is that these brain farts are part and parcel of his game, opposition players and fans expect from Rocky, the 8 games you’ve mentioned him being involved in he’s scored and OG and gave away a penalty, add them to the list we have from previous seasons you can understand why he’s being criticised.

Yeah , we changed formation , goalkeeper etc … and I agree Rocky has a mistake in him though has he made any more than our other defenders this season? … the OG was down to really bad luck as it hit Joe Newell though if some of you want to use that as a stick to beat the guy fair enough though not for me as I thought even after that he responded well and showed great character …

I didn’t think Smith had anything shot wise from them that was to difficult to deal with the entire game either and besides the reaction after the saints game I’d have gladly dropped points to them if it meant beating hertz .

[Dmas]

Yeah , we changed formation , goalkeeper etc … and I agree Rocky has a mistake in him though has he made any more than our other defenders this season? … the OG was down to really bad luck as it hit Joe Newell though if some of you want to use that as a stick to beat the guy fair enough though not for me as I thought even after that he responded well and showed great character …

I didn’t think Smith had anything shot wise from them that was to difficult to deal with the entire game either and besides the reaction after the saints game I’d have gladly dropped points to them if it meant beating hertz .

I don’t want to beat him with anything he did come through that well as well the fans helped him with that I thought, but let’s not forget Shankland had him on roller skates near the end and if he had more confidence about him he’d have finished that with Rocky on his face, we need better than him, it doesn’t need large amounts of money either, plenty defences in this league cope with pressure without pushing self destruct st.j done it today with 10men, it’s unfortunately ‘classic’ Rocky and people are tired of it

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t want to beat him with anything he did come through that well as well the fans helped him with that I thought, but let’s not forget Shankland had him on roller skates near the end and if he had more confidence about him he’d have finished that with Rocky on his face, we need better than him, it doesn’t need large amounts of money either, plenty defences in this league cope with pressure without pushing self destruct st.j done it today with 10men, it’s unfortunately ‘classic’ Rocky and people are tired of it

I think he actually slips at one stage in the Shankland incident who was kept quiet along with their wonder kid Wilson for most of the game .

I think some folk on here are generally looking for a scapegoat at times and if it’s not Campbell then it will be Rocky more times than not which is unfair like the OG against hertz he’s getting blamed for ..

You say it’s the “ classic “ Rocky people are tired of though I wouldn’t include myself in that and I’m sure there’s others that also think his performances have generally been good for weeks now …

Once again I will ask has he made any more mistakes than our other defenders this season? .. Think the reason you haven’t answered is because he hasn’t made anymore than the rest and in some cases less than others have which brings us back to the word “ scapegoat “ .

[Dmas]

I think he actually slips at one stage in the Shankland incident who was kept quiet along with their wonder kid Wilson for most of the game .

I think some folk on here are generally looking for a scapegoat at times and if it’s not Campbell then it will be Rocky more times than not which is unfair like the OG against hertz he’s getting blamed for ..

You say it’s the “ classic “ Rocky people are tired of though I wouldn’t include myself in that and I’m sure there’s others that also think his performances have generally been good for weeks now …

Once again I will ask has he made any more mistakes than our other defenders this season? .. Think the reason you haven’t answered is because he hasn’t made anymore than the rest and in some cases less than others have which brings us back to the word “ scapegoat “ .

He’s made more than iredale, Marv has already shown improvement after his errors early in the season if him and o’hora continue making these mistakes 2/3 years into their hibs careers as Rocky has I’d expect them to be replaced too, I think him and miller are similar in the fact they make the same types of mistakes all the time it’s arrogance with miller imo I’m not sure why Rocky isn’t learning but he’s had 3 years to improve his game now and despite a lot of his game being decent it’s too often his mistakes cost us

[Donegal Hibby]

He’s made more than iredale, Marv has already shown improvement after his errors early in the season if him and o’hora continue making these mistakes 2/3 years into their hibs careers as Rocky has I’d expect them to be replaced too, I think him and miller are similar in the fact they make the same types of mistakes all the time it’s arrogance with miller imo I’m not sure why Rocky isn’t learning but he’s had 3 years to improve his game now and despite a lot of his game being decent it’s too often his mistakes cost us

Iredale has been good in fairness and due to him being left footed this might have given us more balance on that side ..

When we signed Rocky I think he had only played about 50 games or so and ended up playing in a position that was new to him ..

Since then I think he’s improved a lot though admit he has a mistake in him , you mention he’s made more mistakes than Iredale though there’s others he’s made less than but there’s not the same criticism for some reason…

Blame him if you want though I’m more unhappy with Miller for it than Rocky but that’s just my opinion as you probably see it differently …

Think Rocky has improved and worth keeping.

[Bostonhibby]

Iredale has been good in fairness and due to him being left footed this might have given us more balance on that side ..

When we signed Rocky I think he had only played about 50 games or so and ended up playing in a position that was new to him ..

Since then I think he’s improved a lot though admit he has a mistake in him , you mention he’s made more mistakes than Iredale though there’s others he’s made less than but there’s not the same criticism for some reason…

Blame him if you want though I’m more unhappy with Miller for it than Rocky but that’s just my opinion as you probably see it differently …

Think Rocky has improved and worth keeping.I mostly agree with this but I've no problem separating the two incidents. No idea what Miller's thought process was but he is 100% responsible for the outcome of the 1st one, gave possession away keeping the pressure on which led to the 2nd one, from which Rocky unfortunately gave away a penalty. That's on Rocky.

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[Brightside]

The lad has very little football brain. Another that must be moved on as part of squad improvement.

[blackpoolhibs]

Last season when Rocky needlessly conceded a corner that lead to Killie’s equaliser in Monty’s first game you said he shouldn’t be blamed for the goal because the defenders should have dealt with the corner. Yet here you are, a year later, taking the complete opposite position - blaming the person who conceded the corner in order to defend those who should have dealt with the corner.
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