Gareth Southgate Knighthood

[gordie18]

Wtf for…..David Beckham will be raging


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[hibsbollah]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

:aok::top marks

[NAE NOOKIE]

For services to taking one of international football's powerhouse nations with the richest and most glamorous league in the world to pick players from and winning bugger all with it ..... seems a nice bloke though, I bear him no ill will. :greengrin

[Hibby70]

For services to waistcoats.

[The Harp Awakes]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

Agree. Loady p15h.

[Loopz]

An abomination of a tradition. Even at that he would be the Coldplay of the football world.

[gringojoe]

Makes it easier to know who goes up against the wall first come the revolution:flag:

[He's here!]

Makes it easier to know who goes up against the wall first come the revolution:flag:

Along with the likes of Sir Kenny Dalglish, Sir Andy Murray, Sir Ax Ferguson and Sir Chris Hoy?

Southgate did a great job as England boss. Arguably the best ever. Doesn't seem outrageous to me that he's been honoured.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Along with the likes of Sir Kenny Dalglish, Sir Andy Murray, Sir Ax Ferguson and Sir Chris Hoy?

Southgate did a great job as England boss. Arguably the best ever. Doesn't seem outrageous to me that he's been honoured.

The previous 4 you mentioned all won major achievements.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Makes it easier to know who goes up against the wall first come the revolution:flag:

and it is coming, make no mistake!

:aok::aok:

[Carheenlea]

With a couple of runners up achievements himself, why no Sir Craig Levein?

[lyonhibs]

and it is coming, make no mistake!

:aok::aok:

There will be nothing even resembling a proper revolution in the UK in this world or the next 😂😂

Back on topic, as they give out peerages and honours like confetti to all kinds of weirdos, Southgate getting a knighthood isn't that unbelievable tbh

[green day]

Along with the likes of Sir Kenny Dalglish, Sir Andy Murray, Sir Ax Ferguson and Sir Chris Hoy?

Southgate did a great job as England boss. Arguably the best ever. Doesn't seem outrageous to me that he's been honoured.


The previous 4 you mentioned all won major achievements.

Absolutely.

There is no comparison between those four, each of whom contributed enormously to their sports, won multiple trophies at the pinnacle of their sports............and Southgate.

He got an OBE in 2019, I could almost understand the knighthood if he had lifted a major honour with England.

[McIntosh]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me. My brother-in-law turned down his: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Pugh

[Pretty Boy]

Tbf to Southgate he did win all those trophies like the err.....Toulon Tournament and the eh.....3rd place in the Nations League.

Definitely deserves to be in the same bracket as Ferguson, Dalglish and Ramsey.

[Clarence]

Best Pizza Hut advert and for his services to the Saxe-Coburg family in helping Germany on their way to win Euro 96.

[Nicho87]

Won the same amount of trophies as Steve Clarke

[Scorrie]

Tbf to Southgate he did win all those trophies like the err.....Toulon Tournament and the eh.....3rd place in the Nations League.

Definitely deserves to be in the same bracket as Ferguson, Dalglish and Ramsey.

Did he no win 2 League Cups as well before becoming England boss? Can’t forget them

[Pretty Boy]

Did he no win 2 League Cups as well before becoming England boss? Can’t forget them

He did as a pl,ayer, as a manger it was Schteve McLaren who won the League Cup with Middlesbrough, their only major trophy.

Southgate did relegate them though which is an achievement of sorts I suppose.

[18Craig75]

My brother-in-law turned down his: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Pugh

Don’t remember hearing of him before, sounds an exceptional person. Added his books to my reading list.

Didn’t see any mention of turning down a knighthood or the reasons why. Fair play to him!

[WhileTheChief..]

and it is coming, make no mistake!

:aok::aok:

Eh?

A revolution?

Coming where?

[Phil MaGlass]

and it is coming, make no mistake!

:aok::aok:

👍aye its coming. If the last few days are anything to go by.

[hibbydog]

A joke of an award. Nice bloke, but has achieved hee haw.

And to hell with knighthoods, titles and the monarchy in general

[greenginger]

A joke of an award. Nice bloke, but has achieved hee haw.

And to hell with knighthoods, titles and the monarchy in general

And what about Sir David Gray ? :greengrin

[Onion]

Along with the likes of Sir Kenny Dalglish, Sir Andy Murray, Sir Ax Ferguson and Sir Chris Hoy?

Southgate did a great job as England boss. Arguably the best ever. Doesn't seem outrageous to me that he's been honoured.

Southgate's likeable chap who carried himself well and excited the English nation, but where's the head room for the coach who actually leads England to a glorious World Cup or Euro win ? Think Sir Tim Henman :rolleyes:

[hibbydog]

And what about Sir David Gray ? :greengrin

Yeah but he was knighted by his people for genuine achievement and awesomeness 😎

[B.H.F.C]

Along with the likes of Sir Kenny Dalglish, Sir Andy Murray, Sir Ax Ferguson and Sir Chris Hoy?

Southgate did a great job as England boss. Arguably the best ever. Doesn't seem outrageous to me that he's been honoured.

Look at the achievements of the others you name in comparison to Southgate.

The honours are a load of pish these days but he is quite friendly with prince William and always sang GSTK proudly I suppose.

[Onion]

Yeah but he was knighted by his people for genuine achievement and awesomeness 😎

Love this :thumbsup:

[He's here!]

The previous 4 you mentioned all won major achievements.

Not my point. I'm asking if they should also be 'up against the wall'.

[JimBHibees]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

Absolutely

[hibsbollah]

Not my point. I'm asking if they should also be 'up against the wall'.

Your initial point was; ‘Southgate did a great job as England boss. Arguably the best ever. Doesn't seem outrageous to me that he's been honoured.’

[JimBHibees]

My brother-in-law turned down his: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Pugh

Wow really interesting read and incredibly inspirational guy. Are you able to say why he turned it down?

[Keith_M]

Not my point. I'm asking if they should also be 'up against the wall'.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I don't think he was being serious.

[Colr]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

This!

[Colr]

For services to taking one of international football's powerhouse nations with the richest and most glamorous league in the world to pick players from and winning bugger all with it ..... seems a nice bloke though, I bear him no ill will. :greengrin

…probably putting up with all the bile and ***** the English press throw at him. Don’t know who would do that job and enjoy it.

[Northernhibee]

Think this is a bit of fake news - he got all the way up to the last stage of opening the letter but at the final moment, just before victory, shat the bed and curled up into a ball.

[gbhibby]

What has he won as a manager 🤔

[Albert Kidd 86’]

My brother-in-law turned down his: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Pugh

your brother in law is an amazing person, truly inspirational. Thanks for sharing.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

There will be nothing even resembling a proper revolution in the UK in this world or the next ����

Back on topic, as they give out peerages and honours like confetti to all kinds of weirdos, Southgate getting a knighthood isn't that unbelievable tbh

haven’t you heard? The revolution starts 2pm sharp outside a Pink bus shelter day after tomorrow ( according to the stats) :na na:

as regards honours list, wasn’t Jimmy Saville given one,( an hounor that is!), (but you never know with that family), by HRH and later the Pope? Says it all really, would not want to be on a list with Sir James Saville on it.

[Scouse Hibee]

Well deserved Sir Gareth, the best England manager in my lifetime so far.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Has to be a case for Sir Anne Budge

[McIntosh]

Don’t remember hearing of him before, sounds an exceptional person. Added his books to my reading list.

Didn’t see any mention of turning down a knighthood or the reasons why. Fair play to him! He will probably be annoyed at me mentioning it, but in for a penny, in for a pound. To his great credit, he turned it down to the then Government's policies in relation to the environment. In the week he turned it down, he was actually sounded out about joining the same Government, and that would have meant a peerage!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[McIntosh]

Wow really interesting read and incredibly inspirational guy. Are you able to say why he turned it down? The then Government's environmental policies, particularly micro plastics, it has been well established that they are now in the food chain and now are in human beings.

[Smartie]

Well deserved Sir Gareth, the best England manager in my lifetime so far.

I find the disrespect constantly shown to him baffling.

As someone who doesn’t particularly want England to win anything, I’m glad he’s gone. He was getting very, very close, and in the modern era managing to keep a group of egotistical (albeit talented) young dafties pointed in the same direction and co-operating with one another really shouldn’t be sniffed at.

History will judge him favourably imo.

[AngloHibs]

The only player ever to captain The Boro to a major trophy!
Sir Gareth's recognition is well-deserved, but it should have been 20 years ago.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

The then Government's environmental policies, particularly micro plastics, it has been well established that they are now in the found chain and now are in human beings.


thanks for sharing.

He is absolutely correct, micro plastics are now found in breast milk, most probably getting there from a seafood diet or from drinking water.

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[GreenNWhiteArmy]

What has he won as a manager 🤔

Toulon tournament. 2016

Arise Sir Gareth...

In fairness. He's without a doubt their best modern manager. Time will tell whether he over or under achieved though. Imo, it falls under the latter

[JimBHibees]

The then Government's environmental policies, particularly micro plastics, it has been well established that they are now in the food chain and now are in human beings.

Ok thanks

[He's here!]

I find the disrespect constantly shown to him baffling.

As someone who doesn’t particularly want England to win anything, I’m glad he’s gone. He was getting very, very close, and in the modern era managing to keep a group of egotistical (albeit talented) young dafties pointed in the same direction and co-operating with one another really shouldn’t be sniffed at.

History will judge him favourably imo.

It's an anti-England thing, that's all. Guy did a great job.

[overdrive]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

I lose respect for anyone who actually accepts an “honour”.

[The Baldmans Comb]

The English and their honours system is very weird though nothing compared to the Scots who buy into this complete nonsense.

[A Hi-Bee]

Ha, let them eat cake, what a crazy system when some cannot even afford to put heating on.

[Pretty Boy]

It's an anti-England thing, that's all. Guy did a great job.

He did a decent job but surely a knighthood, if you place any weight on such things, should be reserved for those who actually achieve tangible success? Bob Paisley won infinitely more than Southgate at the highest level and got an OBE, Bill Shankly likewise.

When you knight a guy for losing in 2 finals and reaching the WC semi and quarter finals then you leave no scope to go anywhere should an English manager ever actually have any notable success again (which admittedly looks a long way off with the current crop but you never know). 'Well done mate, here's the same honour as that guy who failed before you'. One of them actually winning their domestic league would be a bigger achievement than what Southgate achieved given Howard Wilkinson must be about 125 now.

[A Hi-Bee]

He did a decent job but surely a knighthood, if you place any weight on such things, should be reserved for those who actually achieve tangible success? Bob Paisley won infinitely more than Southgate at the highest level and got an OBE, Bill Shankly likewise.

When you knight a guy for losing in 2 finals and reaching the WC semi and quarter finals then you leave no scope to go anywhere should an English manager ever actually have any notable success again (which admittedly looks a long way off with the current crop but you never know). 'Well done mate, here's the same honour as that guy who failed before you'. One of them actually winning their domestic league would be a bigger achievement than what Southgate achieved given Howard Wilkinson must be about 125 now.

In that case I give you Jock Stein.

[easty]

Imagine they’d actually won something under Southgate…would he have been installed as 3rd in line to the throne?

[easty]

I lose respect for anyone who actually accepts an “honour”.

Yep

[CropleyWasGod]

In that case I give you Jock Stein.

I have often wondered whether he declined a knighthood, although he did have a CBE.

[greenginger]

I lose respect for anyone who actually accepts an “honour”.

I don’t think Sir Tom Farmer will lose any sleep.

[A Hi-Bee]

Imagine they’d actually won something under Southgate…would he have been installed as 3rd in line to the throne?

They would have gave him the throne by popular vote, down with the Germans the English would have said.:greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

In that case I give you Jock Stein.

:agree:

I don't know if there were political sensitivites around Stein but as a man who achieved a bona fide first then he was far more deserving of a knighthood than Southgate.

[A Hi-Bee]

:agree:

I don't know if there were political sensitivites around Stein but as a man who achieved a bona fide first then he was far more deserving of a knighthood than Southgate.

If we say that life is full of "what if's" imagine what could have been possible if he had stayed with Hibs a bit longer. We may well have won the league and cup that season.

[Pretty Boy]

I lose respect for anyone who actually accepts an “honour”.

It's a strange one.

I know a couple of people who have had MBEs and OBEs for services to charity and/or community. They accepted because it is one of the few ways that people are recognised in an official capacity in the UK and they felt it was good PR for the causes they support. I don't hold any grudge against those who accept.

I would like to see the whole antiquated system replaced with some kind of people's award. Locally nominated and selected and strictly off limits to anyone who is a political donor. If the establishment want to continue their backslapping and politically motivated honours system that has arguably devalued the whole thing then let them but create an alternative so that those who might be inclined to refuse can still be recognised.

[Keith_M]

It's a strange one.

I know a couple of people who have had MBEs and OBEs for services to charity and/or community. They accepted because it is one of the few ways that people are recognised in an official capacity in the UK and they felt it was good PR for the causes they support. I don't hold any grudge against those who accept.

I would like to see the whole antiquated system replaced with some kind of people's award. Locally nominated and selected and strictly off limits to anyone who is a political donor. If the establishment want to continue their backslapping and politically motivated honours system that has arguably devalued the whole thing then let them but create an alternative so that those who might be inclined to refuse can still be recognised.


I would like to give an award to PB for (once again) posting my exact thoughts on the matter, but doing so much more eloquently than I ever could


:top marks

[The Harp Awakes]

Going by the latest opinion polls on independence. It shouldn't be too long before we get rid of this, order of the British Empire nonsense and the parasites that uphold it

[Bristolhibby]

It's an anti-England thing, that's all. Guy did a great job.

But won the same amount of trophies as Steve Clarke.

Sir Steve has a nice ring while we are at it.

Getting Scotland to two Euros in a row surely is the same as Gareth getting England to two finals?

J

[AgentDaleCooper]

Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

My grandd turned down a CBE or OBE or whatever...easily the coolest thing anyone in my family has done haha

[Scouse Hibee]

Going by the latest opinion polls on independence. It shouldn't be too long before we get rid of this, order of the British Empire nonsense and the parasites that uphold it

Yet Scottish folk who have been awarded an honour have accepted it with pride…..go figure!

[greenlex]

Yet Scottish folk who have been awarded an honour have accepted it with pride…..go figure!
Weird that honouring all those unionists. Who’d have think it.

[Stairway 2 7]

Stevie Carr from this website deserved it wholeheartedly, Gareth Southgate makes a mockery of the system. Every country in the world has a recognition system, I'd bet there is people in each country that didn't get them complaining about it. Like every competition it probably is unfair and undemocratic, further ours like Holland, Spain, Scandinavia is linked to an outdated system. But then again if Scotland was socialist like I want, it would be a probably corrupt socialist system picking the favourite people