At last Police doing something about Pyro

[wookie70]

Nice to see the Police eventually taking some action on Pyro. Presumably the club will follow up with some banning orders for those arrested if convicted- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cre71wqnlvwo

[JohnM1875]

Nice to see the Police eventually taking some action on Pyro. Presumably the club will follow up with some banning orders for those arrested if convicted- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cre71wqnlvwo

Yet **** all done during the old firm games. Funny that.

[SickBoy32]

Some very over zealous policing on display here IMO. 2 guys lifted for being ‘in possession of pyro’ near haymarket, someone else charged for setting it off on Russell Road.

The OF blanket entire stadiums with it and zero arrests.

*****bag polis as per

Extract of the applicable law (I think) below, have the 3 noted above even breached this ? 😂

‘The Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995 made it a criminal offence for anyone to be in possession of a pyrotechnic article entering or in attendance at a sporting event in this country’

[Hibernian Verse]

Some very over zealous policing on display here IMO. 2 guys lifted for being ‘in possession of pyro’ near haymarket, someone else charged for setting it off on Russell Road.

The OF blanket entire stadiums with it and zero arrests.

*****bag polis as per

Extract of the applicable law (I think) below, have the 3 noted above even breached this ? 😂

‘The Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995 made it a criminal offence for anyone to be in possession of a pyrotechnic article entering or in attendance at a sporting event in this country’

The police escorted the “Corteo” and didn’t have any issue with it under the bridge so they’ve just picked on people not in crowds presumably. Probably been told to get a few easy arrests for the news.

[andrew70]

“Nice to see”. No it’s not, it’s scandalous.

The biggest gang in the country getting their numbers up with a few easy arrests.

It’s not going away and plenty displays have been pictured by the club so it’s just hypocritical to suggest this is a problem.

It adds a lot to the aesthetics and atmosphere of a game.

[DaveF]

If I see 500 arrests on Sunday then I'll give the police a round of applause. But we all know that won't happen and these arrests are nothing more than petty nonsense from Police Scotland.

[B.H.F.C]

“Nice to see”. No it’s not, it’s scandalous.

The biggest gang in the country getting their numbers up with a few easy arrests.

It’s not going away and plenty displays have been pictured by the club so it’s just hypocritical to suggest this is a problem.

It adds a lot to the aesthetics and atmosphere of a game.

I personally have no issue with it. But if you choose to chuck a pyro then you can’t have any complaints if you get lifted. Everyone knows they’re banned at the end of the day.

[wookie70]

Some very over zealous policing on display here IMO. 2 guys lifted for being ‘in possession of pyro’ near haymarket, someone else charged for setting it off on Russell Road.

The OF blanket entire stadiums with it and zero arrests.

*****bag polis as per

Extract of the applicable law (I think) below, have the 3 noted above even breached this ? 😂

‘The Criminal Law (Consolidation) (Scotland) Act 1995 made it a criminal offence for anyone to be in possession of a pyrotechnic article entering or in attendance at a sporting event in this country’

From what I can see there are new laws and you are not allowed to carry in a public place. - https://www.gov.scot/publications/fireworks-the-law/

[andrew70]

I personally have no issue with it. But if you choose to chuck a pyro then you can’t have any complaints if you get lifted. Everyone knows they’re banned at the end of the day.

Aye that’s true but the laws are draconian.

On the continent there is far greater understanding and no stupid laws.

[wookie70]

“Nice to see”. No it’s not, it’s scandalous.

The biggest gang in the country getting their numbers up with a few easy arrests.

It’s not going away and plenty displays have been pictured by the club so it’s just hypocritical to suggest this is a problem.

It adds a lot to the aesthetics and atmosphere of a game.

In your opinion. It is a nightmare for those of us who have breathing difficulties, not great when one hits your kid either. The start of games particularly can be hard to see at times and to me it does absolutely nothing positive in terms of aesthetics or atmosphere. I do agree with you with the club using images with Pyro, I wish they would refrain from doing so.

It is against the law so the biggest gang are well in their rights to police it and I wish they would do it far more. I agree with other posters that they don't seem to act when there are larger numbers of fans involved but hopefully this is a start to them being more proactive.

[SickBoy32]

From what I can see there are new laws and you are not allowed to carry in a public place. - https://www.gov.scot/publications/fireworks-the-law/

Fair enough, wasn’t aware of that 👍

Glasgow obviously not within the jurisdiction of this law

[CentreLine]

In your opinion. It is a nightmare for those of us who have breathing difficulties, not great when one hits your kid either. The start of games particularly can be hard to see at times and to me it does absolutely nothing positive in terms of aesthetics or atmosphere. I do agree with you with the club using images with Pyro, I wish they would refrain from doing so.

It is against the law so the biggest gang are well in their rights to police it and I wish they would do it far more. I agree with other posters that they don't seem to act when there are larger numbers of fans involved but hopefully this is a start to them being more proactive.

Good post 100% agree.

[Pretty Boy]

In your opinion. It is a nightmare for those of us who have breathing difficulties, not great when one hits your kid either. The start of games particularly can be hard to see at times and to me it does absolutely nothing positive in terms of aesthetics or atmosphere. I do agree with you with the club using images with Pyro, I wish they would refrain from doing so.

It is against the law so the biggest gang are well in their rights to police it and I wish they would do it far more. I agree with other posters that they don't seem to act when there are larger numbers of fans involved but hopefully this is a start to them being more proactive.

I don't like it either.

My daughter and I both have asthma and whilst I wouldn't say pyro is dangerous as such, it can be uncomfortable (that's for me, I can't speak for those who have more serious respiratory illnesses and for whom it could be dangerous). Particularly bad in the winter when colds, flu, chest infections are all doing the rounds and your asthma is already exacerbated by the cold temps anyway.

I get the comeback is always 'well you see these huge displays in Europe, does no one have asthma there?' The answer is yes of course they do but the social media pages that promote ultras and pyro and so on aren't likely to report on any complaints about it. Their job is to essentially advertise it as something everyone loves.

It's not going to stop and I'm really not into heavy handed policing but the idea there is no downside and it just creates one big party atmosphere is nonsense.

[hibsbollah]

Aye that’s true but the laws are draconian.

On the continent there is far greater understanding and no stupid laws.

This isnt the first time Ive read this about how ‘they dont care about pyro on the continent’ and ive no idea where it comes from. LFP the body that runs ligue 1 regularly closes tribunes or sometimes the entire stadium to supporters for using pyro. Fines follow, fans are denied the opportunity to see their team live but ultras continue to do it.

[GreenCastle]

Seems Hibs fans are an easy target - compare to the scenes a few weeks ago with the Old Firm and the constant Pyro at every game with their fans.

Police seem to leave the Glasgow teams alone. Bit of a joke really.

[Eyrie]

Seems Hibs fans are an easy target - compare to the scenes a few weeks ago with the Old Firm and the constant Pyro at every game with their fans.

Police seem to leave the Glasgow teams alone. Bit of a joke really.

The problem is that the Ugly Sisters fans are far more numerous. It's very challenging for the police to identify which immature idiot dressed in identikit ultra black is responsible, let alone for outnumbered police to then deal with the individual.

Probably the only solution is for the clubs themselves to take action by issuing warnings to their ultras groups that if this continues then they won't get tickets for away games and let the ultras choose whether seeing their team play is more important than being a generic ultra.

And no, I don't believe the clubs would do that based on their willingness to tolerate/profit from Ugly Sister sectarianism in the away ends.

[GloryGlory]

Yet **** all done during the old firm games. Funny that.

My thoughts exactly!

Let's see what happens the next time Rantic are in town

[GloryGlory]

The problem is that the Ugly Sisters fans are far more numerous. It's very challenging for the police to identify which immature idiot dressed in identikit ultra black is responsible, let alone for outnumbered police to then deal with the individual.

Probably the only solution is for the clubs themselves to take action by issuing warnings to their ultras groups that if this continues then they won't get tickets for away games and let the ultras choose whether seeing their team play is more important than being a generic ultra.

And no, I don't believe the clubs would do that based on their willingness to tolerate/profit from Ugly Sister sectarianism in the away ends.

Then time to institute body searches at the turnstile. If they don't like it they can do one.

[Eyrie]

Then time to institute body searches at the turnstile. If they don't like it they can do one.

Bear in mind that would affect all fans and not just the ultras so it would reduce entry to the ground to a crawl.

Ideally what we need is a scanner that doesn't just detect pyro but sets it off immediately in the ultras pockets :greengrin

[Bristolhibby]

From what I can see there are new laws and you are not allowed to carry in a public place. - https://www.gov.scot/publications/fireworks-the-law/

Smoke isn’t fireworks. Neither is pyro I’d argue.

J

[wookie70]

Smoke isn’t fireworks. Neither is pyro I’d argue.

J

"It is against the law to have adult fireworks or pyrotechnics like flares in a public place (includes the street, parks, and roads) without a reasonable excuse. These rules are stricter at large sport and music events where no fireworks at all are allowed, including category 1 fireworks."

What is a pyrotechnic?29. A pyrotechnic is a device which contains explosive substances or an explosive mixture of substances designed to produce heat, light, sound, gas or smoke or a combination of such effects through self-sustained exothermic chemical reactions. There are a wide range of differing pyrotechnics available, for example theatrical, hand held flares, distress flares and smoke devices. These devices come in a variety of coloured effects and are used for various reasons, the main use being for spectacle, theatrical special effects or distress signal purposes.

[Tully]

Hopefully the clowns with pyros in the Falkirk end were arrested at Dunfermline last night

[GreenCastle]

Then time to institute body searches at the turnstile. If they don't like it they can do one.

Probably wouldn’t matter as they hide them in areas searches won’t go near. Even body searches at games I’ve been to are usually useless.

Pyro is here to stay it’s whether or not fans are able to hide it well enough before / during games.

[PHeffernan]

A lot of posters missing that all the arrests for pyro on Thursday were made in the street not within the stadium which make their knee jerk Rantic related responses less relevant.

P.S. Easy thing clubs could do if they want to reduce it and allow identification of culprits would be to add to their conditions of stadium entry i.e. no entry with a face covering and no face coverings to be worn within the stadium.