Expiring Contracts

[Ribs1875]

Here is a list of current first team and youth team players out of contract at the end of the season. Who is worth keeping?

Junior Hoilett
Martin Boyle
Dwight Gayle (retiring)
Chris Cadden
Harry McKirdy
Jake Doyle-Hayes
Rocky Bushiri
Maksymilian Boruc
Nohan Kenneh
Lewis Miller
Luke Amos

Youth players
Ruben McAllistair
Josh O'Connor
Jacob MacIntyre

Loans
Mykola Kukharevych
Hyeok-kyu Kwon
Nectarios Triantis
Josef Bursik

[Itsnoteasy]

Thought Kwon was on loan.

Keep Chris,Josh & Rocky

[Centre Hawf]

I believe Obita has another year after his extension earlier this year.

I also have a feeling that Campbell isn’t out of contract until 2027

[1875M]

I’d offer Boyle another 1 year deal, he still scores goals at this level but I wouldn’t be offering stupid money.

I’d offer Obita, Cadden, Campbell, Rocky and Miller deals. That’s it. Use the freed up wages to bring in 5+ quality signings.

Maybe Kwon on a free if he’s within budget.

[DaveF]

I dont think Jacob MacIntyre is out of contract. He is very highly rated and I'm sure he is on a long term deal.

[Dmas]

I believe Obita has another year after his extension earlier this year.

I also have a feeling that Campbell isn’t out of contract until 2027

I also think we have a years option on both Boyle and miller

[Allant1981]

It likely won't happen but I'd struggle to give any of them a new contract at the minute, they have all been poor for a while now(appreciate they are playing better just now) but if we are serious about pushing on and being best of the rest then we need quality through the entire squad

[Cabbage-Patch]

Here is a list of current first team and youth team players out of contract at the end of the season. Who is worth keeping?

Junior Hoilett
Martin Boyle
Jordan Obita
Dwight Gayle (retiring)
Chris Cadden
Harry McKirdy
Jake Doyle-Hayes
Josh Campbell
Rocky Bushiri
Maksymilian Boruc
Hyeok-kyu Kwon
Nohan Kenneh
Lewis Miller
Luke Amos

Youth players
Ruben McAllistair
Josh O'Connor
Jacob MacIntyre
Robbie Hamilton

Loans
Mykola Kukharevych
Nectarios Triantis
Josef Bursik

I know we have seen an upturn in form of late but let's not kid ourselves the squad on a whole is not good enough. Of that list I would genuinely only keep Boyle and C Cadden. If Gayle could be persuaded to have another year I would also keep him. Would also offer Hoilett another years deal

[hibsbollah]

Kenneh, really need to push the boat out and make him a decent offer.

Seriously, a tonne of players need to be moved on. Some of the names on that list have barely contributed anything and most will have cost hundreds of thousands in wages.

[we are hibs]

It likely won't happen but I'd struggle to give any of them a new contract at the minute, they have all been poor for a while now(appreciate they are playing better just now) but if we are serious about pushing on and being best of the rest then we need quality through the entire squadAgree 100%

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[wookie70]

Rocky and Josh Campbell would be it for me on the 1st team players. Boyle will be too expensive but if he wasn't I would give him another year and possibly Miller if he is cheap too. I'd let O'Connor go from the Youths and see if we could sign Triantis from the Loans.

[The Sundance Kid]

Here is a list of current first team and youth team players out of contract at the end of the season. Who is worth keeping?

Junior Hoilett
Martin Boyle
Jordan Obita
Dwight Gayle (retiring)
Chris Cadden
Harry McKirdy
Jake Doyle-Hayes
Josh Campbell
Rocky Bushiri
Maksymilian Boruc
Hyeok-kyu Kwon
Nohan Kenneh
Lewis Miller
Luke Amos

Youth players
Ruben McAllistair
Josh O'Connor
Jacob MacIntyre
Robbie Hamilton

Loans
Mykola Kukharevych
Nectarios Triantis
Josef Bursik

Few updates to the list above:

Kwon's one of the loans
Kyle McClelland and Murray Aiken are another couple of younger players who are out of contract this summer.
The clubs holds one-year extension options on Miller, Boyle, Amos and McClelland.
Jordan Obita's contract runs to 2026 while Josh Campbell and Jacob MacIntyre's contracts run to 2027.
Robbie Hamilton left the club in the summer just past, now plays permanently for Edinburgh City.

[Unseen work]

I would have said Hoilett but he seems to have went off it a bit lately, not sure what he’d be like next season so would depend on how he performs

Campbell, Bushiri and Miller are the only ones I’d even consider to extending out of those listed.

Think Obita is longer and as for Boyle I just can’t see him staying. He’d have to reduce his wage significantly to stay here I think

Chris Cadden I just think has tailed off a bit for me and it’s a position I think we can improve on. Definitely not a right winger in a front 3, right back he struggles against certain opposition but right wing back does suit him

[Musselbound]

Players who should definitely not be offered new deals:

McKirdy, Doyle Hayes, Kenneh, Amos.

I also think O'Connor will go and I'd try to cut short Bursik's loan if possible and get a new keeper in Jan.

The rest are up for debate and sometimes we are too quick to want shot of players. The likes of Paul McGinn or Fraser Murray could still have been useful squad members we got rid of.

The squad needs a bit of stability and continuity.

[Northernhibee]

Keep Obita, Cadden, Campbell, Rocky.

Undecided on Miller but likely release.

The rest can go.

[Iain G]

And sign Triantis!

[Edinburgh Green]

Surprised at the amount of people wanting to keep C Cadden. Possibly a couple wins clouding people’s judgement?

Cadden is a very average winger and a poor defender. I’d be hoping for a lot more.

[Bishop Hibee]

Keep Boyle, Campbell, Rocky, Jacob McIntyre and maybe Miller. The rest can go.

[B.H.F.C]

It’s been good the last few weeks and players can often find form going in to the last six months of their deal. Hope we don’t make any emotional decisions based on what has happened short term. Clear out and rebuild still required, particularly defensively.

[Ribs1875]

I think Rocky, Cadden, Campbell, Boruc and McAllistair are all worth keeping. The latter two for the future. Hoilett I like, but equally I think there are just as good options out there.

Boyle has a big decision to make, I think there is likely a contract there for him. It's needs to be right for both parties. He's overall worth keeping on as he still is one of our better players who takes responsibility.

The rest of them especially JDH once they leave, I doubt they will move on to bigger and better. It will be interesting to see where they are in 5 years time.

[Hibee Mac]

Rocky, Campbell and Obita. All good squad players.

None as first team starters though. Obita maybe as a starter if he could get back to last year's form.

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[andrew_dundee]

Here is a list of current first team and youth team players out of contract at the end of the season. Who is worth keeping?

Junior Hoilett
Martin Boyle
Jordan Obita
Dwight Gayle (retiring)
Chris Cadden
Harry McKirdy
Jake Doyle-Hayes
Josh Campbell
Rocky Bushiri
Maksymilian Boruc
Nohan Kenneh
Lewis Miller
Luke Amos

Youth players
Ruben McAllistair
Josh O'Connor
Jacob MacIntyre
Robbie Hamilton

Loans
Mykola Kukharevych
Hyeok-kyu Kwon
Nectarios Triantis
Josef Bursik

Rocky, Obita, Cadden and possibly Miller and Hoilett for me.

Boyle on a reduced contract for one more year would make sense if he's up for it, and the same goes for Gayle.

[PHeffernan]

I'm amazed at how many prolific posters on hibs.net don't know when our player contracts end.
The contract extensions of Obita, Campbell and Jacob MacIntyre were well publicised by the club and the OP even had Robbie Hamilton, who left last summer, on his list.
Ah, the dangers of cutting and pasting from poor sources.

[Itsnoteasy]

I'm amazed at how many Hibs supporters don't know when our players contracts end.
The contract extensions of Obita, Campbell and Jacob MacIntyre were well publicised and the OP even had a guy on his list that left last summer.

Edinburgh Evening News reporter me thinks.

[CapitalGreen]

A few good games against poor teams and we are talking about handing contracts out to guys who have been mostly awful for the last 3 years.

Yesterday was a brilliant day and a long overdue win but a better team would have absolutely pumped Hearts. We still need to improve all areas of our team despite our upturn in form.

[PHeffernan]

Edinburgh Evening News reporter me thinks.

Yeah, Evening News reporters are another lot who never fact check the ***** they write.

Suspect transfermarkt myself
A good source of information but never close to being up to date.
P.S. a quick look at transfermarkt and they still have Joe Newell out of contract in the summer.

[greenlex]

Campbell Obita and Bushiri is all I would try and keep. Even then I don’t think I’d lose sleep if they all went. Not sure about the youth players but from most accounts only McIntyre gets regular good reviews.

[PHeffernan]

Here is something related that I wrote for another thread yesterday.

"I see more outs than ins for Hibs in this transfer window given the turn in fortunes which has come about since we started keeping 11 players on at all times during matches. Who knew :greengrin

Kuharevych will probably be available for our 1st game in January and Bowie and Ekpiteta for our 1st game in February.
Their return will leave few gaps in the squad.

Kenneh, JDH and McKirdy are all out of contract in 5 months time so they need to be playing to be in the shop window to attract a new suitor so almost certain to leave on loan or permanently in January. Presume the players, their agents and Hibs have been working on this and are ready to move when the window opens.
Amos is another who may move closer to home in January if he gets an offer. He is still getting in the match day squad but never gets on which is no use to him.

A good chance Bursik will return to his parent club if the loan contract allows. Not playing does nothing for the player or his owners.
If that is happening Hibs will have been working on a loan replacement.

Other possible out is Youan. January is when desperate clubs pay over the odds for a good player. If he stays until summer he will have a year left on his contract which will weaken our bargaining position. A January sale solves that. Again a loan replacement would be required.

Outside of that Hibs need a new loan club for Murray Johnson who isn't playing at Airdrie as well as a new loan or permanent club for Malik Zaid and Josh O'Connor who are both back at base and out of contract in 5 months time.
22 years old Max Boruc is another young player out of contract in the summer and again I would like to see Hibs helping him find a new club or a shop window loan in January if they have no intention of giving him another contract.

Have I forgotten anyone?

There is also the not so small matter of players that are out of contract in the summer that the club may want to keep.
Too date we have heard no mention of new contract talks and the likes of Chris Cadden, Reuben McAllister, Lewis Miller and Rocky Bushiri are free to negotiate with other clubs in under a week.

P.S. no chance we strike gold like we did with Maolida last January. What a player he was! If Brian McDermott found him I can almost forgive him the Montgomery deal"

[HibbyAndy]

Nohan Kenneh Has to be one of our worst signings would you not think ? Gave him a 3 year contract and apparently one of the highest paid players at the club ?..Played a handful of games and never to be seen again

Didn't someone on here claim he was our best signing for a long time when we got him ? Best in training etc lol

[Iain G]

A few good games against poor teams and we are talking about handing contracts out to guys who have been mostly awful for the last 3 years.

Yesterday was a brilliant day and a long overdue win but a better team would have absolutely pumped Hearts. We still need to improve all areas of our team despite our upturn in form.

We have had much better teams in the past and failed to pump hearts! Take the win and enjoy it 😁

[Ribs1875]

Have done well since the defeat to Dundee to. Turn it around with so many out of contract.

[CapitalGreen]

We have had much better teams in the past and failed to pump hearts! Take the win and enjoy it 😁

I’m very much enjoying the win, I’d like for us to not have to wait another 5 years to enjoy another one. It would be height of hubris to start thinking our squad is suddenly in a good place because we’ve beaten a piss poor Hearts team.

[Speedy]

Nohan Kenneh Has to be one of our worst signings would you not think ? Gave him a 3 year contract and apparently one of the highest paid players at the club ?..Played a handful of games and never to be seen again

Didn't someone on here claim he was our best signing for a long time when we got him ? Best in training etc lol

Why would Kenneh be anywhere near one of the highest earners in the squad?

[JohnM1875]

Why would Kenneh be anywhere near one of the highest earners in the squad?

Probably the same reason Chris Mueller was on a ridiculous amount of money. Folk who didn't have a clue were throwing money at players nowhere near good enough, Jair another one.

[Forza Fred]

Hibs have a year’s option on Lewis Miller, but surprised at the number of posts on here unsure if they would keep him.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

Also I think he’s shown a versatility in the last couple of games that has been and will continue to be very useful.

[3pm]

Hibs have a year’s option on Lewis Miller, but surprised at the number of posts on here unsure if they would keep him.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

Also I think he’s shown a versatility in the last couple of games that has been and will continue to be very useful.

I am not a fan tbh. If we are going to improve, we need to get better options in that area.

Can't see how we renew the contracts of both C.Cadden and Lewis.

[CentreLine]

I am not a fan tbh. If we are going to improve, we need to get better options in that area.

Can't see how we renew the contracts of both C.Cadden and Lewis.

I'd definitely see value in renewing both Caddens’ contracts. They offer almost identical threats going forward. Chris Cadden has been consistently delivering quality crosses since he came to us. It’s the job of the strikers to meet those crosses and that’s where is been falling down. Since brother Nick has had a run of games have you noticed how many crosses both have managed to get on the end of? Nicky has converted more but I’m pretty sure we’ll see a return from Chris too before season’s end. There has to be life in both these guys for a couple of seasons yet IMO.

[Mcbizz1998]

If we want to progress we need to get better than Bushiri. He will always have howlers in him like on Thursday. I find it mental that people would want to extend his contract.

He should go with thanks for his efforts and good luck to the lad. We need better.

[Donegal Hibby]

Campbell is contracted to 2027 so he won’t be going unless an offer comes in .
Obita I thought has another year and one I’d keep if he hasn’t.
C. Cadden .. keep .
Boyle .. keep .
Bushiri .. keep .
Miller.. keep .
And on the loans Triantis is one I’d like to see us try and sign .
Not sure about the young players as I’ve not seen enough of them to comment.

[Unseen work]

If we want to progress we need to get better than Bushiri. He will always have howlers in him like on Thursday. I find it mental that people would want to extend his contract.

He should go with thanks for his efforts and good luck to the lad. We need better.

My Aberdeen supporting mates were very surprised at how good he was the other week.

Essentially saying they know he is a bit of a joke figure/easy target but when you watch him he’s good. They kept going on about how athletic he was and how it limited their striker. I think for whatever reason they never realised how quick he was and they said it was a big factor in nullifying their attacks

Got to say I agree with them. Rocky’s physicality limits a lot of strikers in this league. He’ll have the odd daft moment but I think he’s improved massively from when he first joined

[Donegal Hibby]

If we want to progress we need to get better than Bushiri. He will always have howlers in him like on Thursday. I find it mental that people would want to extend his contract.

He should go with thanks for his efforts and good luck to the lad. We need better.

What happened on Thursday wasn’t a howler but more down to bad luck as it took a touch of Newell which probably caught Rocky out . Guys been playing really well recently.

[Nicho87]

Whilst I think hibs have hopefully learnt their lesson to dishing out extensions left right centre in recent years

The only players I’d be looking to keep based on immediate recent form would be Rocky and Chris Cadden on short 1-2 year contracts

The days of 3-4 year deals being dished out to existing average players hopefully has gone.

[CapitalGreen]

I'd definitely see value in renewing both Caddens’ contracts. They offer almost identical threats going forward. Chris Cadden has been consistently delivering quality crosses since he came to us. It’s the job of the strikers to meet those crosses and that’s where is been falling down. Since brother Nick has had a run of games have you noticed how many crosses both have managed to get on the end of? Nicky has converted more but I’m pretty sure we’ll see a return from Chris too before season’s end. There has to be life in both these guys for a couple of seasons yet IMO.

Nicky Cadden is much better than Chris and it’s not even close. If we have aspirations of challenging for 3rd in the future we need better at right back. Time to move on from those who have helped deliver consistent mediocrity over the last few years.

[we are hibs]

I must be the only one that doesn't think Chris Cadden is a particularly good crosser. I think his brother has put more good balls into the box than him in a Hibs shirt already and he's only been here about 4 months.

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[Malonga's Cat]

My Aberdeen supporting mates were very surprised at how good he was the other week.

Essentially saying they know he is a bit of a joke figure/easy target but when you watch him he’s good. They kept going on about how athletic he was and how it limited their striker. I think for whatever reason they never realised how quick he was and they said it was a big factor in nullifying their attacks

Got to say I agree with them. Rocky’s physicality limits a lot of strikers in this league. He’ll have the odd daft moment but I think he’s improved massively from when he first joined

Totally agree with this. Been massively impressed with him recently. He's proved me wrong. He's clearly one of us too - his response at the derby celebrations show that.

[Unseen work]

Nicky Cadden is much better than Chris and it’s not even close. If we have aspirations of challenging for 3rd in the future we need better at right back. Time to move on from those who have helped deliver consistent mediocrity over the last few years.

Couldn’t agree more.

Even just looking at the stats

Nicky has 13 games, 4 goals and 2 assists.

Chris has the following stats since joining;

24/25 - 15 games, 0 goals and 1 assist
23/24 - 11 games, 1 goal and 0 assists.
22/23 - 37 games, 1 goal and 3 assists
21/22 - 28 games, 2 goals and 2 assists
20/21 - 10 games, 0 goals and 0 assists


Chris had a tendency imo of flashing the ball across goal 100mph which gives the striker next to no chance of getting on it. Nicky gives the attacker a much more inviting cross and one they’re likely to score from

[Jones28]

Hibs have a year’s option on Lewis Miller, but surprised at the number of posts on here unsure if they would keep him.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

Also I think he’s shown a versatility in the last couple of games that has been and will continue to be very useful.

I’d like to keep him. Hes got some great athletic attributes and has improved as a player. Hes dangerous going forward too.

[B.H.F.C]

Hibs have a year’s option on Lewis Miller, but surprised at the number of posts on here unsure if they would keep him.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

Also I think he’s shown a versatility in the last couple of games that has been and will continue to be very useful.

Miller has been inconsistent, at best, over his time here. We’re well in to his third season and he’s not even a guaranteed starter in a poor Hibs side.

I know we’ve had a few good weeks but the squad is full of players who have had a few poor seasons. I really hope we are careful what we do with any contract extensions. Particularly defensively we’re still poor and we’re going to need to create space in there.

[3pm]

Campbell is contracted to 2027 so he won’t be going unless an offer comes in .
Obita I thought has another year and one I’d keep if he hasn’t.
C. Cadden .. keep .
Boyle .. keep .
Bushiri .. keep .
Miller.. keep .
And on the loans Triantis is one I’d like to see us try and sign .
Not sure about the young players as I’ve not seen enough of them to comment.

If we want to improve, what you are suggesting can't happen.

[7Hero]

No time for sentiment im afraid..

[Allant1981]

Campbell is contracted to 2027 so he won’t be going unless an offer comes in .
Obita I thought has another year and one I’d keep if he hasn’t.
C. Cadden .. keep .
Boyle .. keep .
Bushiri .. keep .
Miller.. keep .
And on the loans Triantis is one I’d like to see us try and sign .
Not sure about the young players as I’ve not seen enough of them to comment.

Why keep players who haven't helped us progress though?

[Donegal Hibby]

If we want to improve, what you are suggesting can't happen.


Why keep players who haven't helped us progress though?

All the players I’ve mentioned have contributed . These are not the ones needed offloaded imo , it’s the ones like your JDH , Kennehs , Jairs , Amos etc that we have many off that haven’t or are unlikely to contribute that we need to move on.

We have to keep some of them and add better players to improve the squad . Gutting the squad the way some are wanting I don’t think is possible considering the money it will cost to replace them , how much will it cost to replace the players I suggested we keep that you think we should let go .. a mill ? , more possibly ? .

[Mcbizz1998]

What happened on Thursday wasn’t a howler but more down to bad luck as it took a touch of Newell which probably caught Rocky out . Guys been playing really well recently.

C’mon mate it was a shocker. And I would be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt if he hadn’t been involved in multiple similar incidents. I’ve seen the guy nutmeg him self from a header on 2 occasions. His overall play has definitely improved but he has these moments in him and they often come in big games. Twice now in derby matches which have cost us goals.

[CapitalGreen]

All the players I’ve mentioned have contributed . These are not the ones needed offloaded imo , it’s the ones like your JDH , Kennehs , Jairs , Amos etc that we have many off that haven’t or are unlikely to contribute that we need to move on.

We have to keep some of them and add better players to improve the squad . Gutting the squad the way some are wanting I don’t think is possible considering the money it will cost to replace them , how much will it cost to replace the players I suggested we keep that you think we should let go .. a mill ? , more possibly ? .

Boyle aside, what exactly have they contributed to during their time at the club? We have been mediocre at best for the past 3.5 seasons, none of the players mentioned are standouts in their position in this league.

[Allant1981]

All the players I’ve mentioned have contributed . These are not the ones needed offloaded imo , it’s the ones like your JDH , Kennehs , Jairs , Amos etc that we have many off that haven’t or are unlikely to contribute that we need to move on.

We have to keep some of them and add better players to improve the squad . Gutting the squad the way some are wanting I don’t think is possible considering the money it will cost to replace them , how much will it cost to replace the players I suggested we keep that you think we should let go .. a mill ? , more possibly ? .

Cadden as a winger has had about half a dozen assists for hibs in about 4 years, he is is not a good defender which is why he gets dropped for Miller

Rocky got dropped for a very long time, he has done OK since coming in but he gets caught out far to often, not very good in the air, he is good in a tackle I will admit but he is a reserve player

Miller isn't very good going forward and gets caught with players going past him constantly

Boyle has been off it for a while now, possibly down to injury but likely to be wanting a lof of money, should we pay someone top dollar who hasn't got into double figures in the league in about 4/5 years

In saying all that they will get my support as long as they are here but we need better to progress, league positions recently show that, stats show that

[J-C]

Here is a list of current first team and youth team players out of contract at the end of the season. Who is worth keeping?

Junior Hoilett
Martin Boyle
Jordan Obita
Dwight Gayle (retiring)
Chris Cadden
Harry McKirdy
Jake Doyle-Hayes
Josh Campbell
Rocky Bushiri
Maksymilian Boruc
Nohan Kenneh
Lewis Miller
Luke Amos

Youth players
Ruben McAllistair
Josh O'Connor
Jacob MacIntyre
Robbie Hamilton

Loans
Mykola Kukharevych
Hyeok-kyu Kwon
Nectarios Triantis
Josef Bursik

I'd keep Rocky, Josh, Cadden and Obita.

Telling that once Cadden is fit, Miller reverts back to the bench, been here 2 years now and hasn't really progressed as a RB.

Rocky is still a decent squad player for this league.

I think Boyle has a year option on his contract but we may not want to extend that as he's getting older and it'll be an expensive one, also so many rumours about him wanting to go to Oz to finish his career, we may just let it run down and thank him for everything.

[Paul1642]

Rocky and Obita for me.

Josh has a few a few blinders to play before he’s worthy of a new contract IMO, and C Cadden isn’t good enough for where we want to be.

I’m loving this squad’s turnaround and character but let’s not allow a brief upturn in result to lumber us with players who aren’t good enough for a few more years.

[Ribs1875]

Lewis Miller blows hot and cold with his form. There have been big games he gives the ball away far too much. I think there are better options out there. Although lately he has contributed well.

Chris Cadden I think the club are likely to keep him on longer. Purely because he is a big figure in the dressing room. Seasoned pro and would get a game for most teams in the league.

Boyle is a keep for me. The Aberdeen game up there shows he still has a lot to offer. Although he's got a big decision as he potentially has more lucrative offers awaiting him down under, plus better climate conditions.

Bushiri has improved, he reminds me a bit like a poor mans Efe Ambrose. 88 minutes of the game he can be solid, but 2 minutes of madness is also a factor. He would get his game for majority of clubs in Scotland with his current form. He's 25, has got time to improve further and has got a good professional attitude to do so. I think he has ticked all the boxes for an extension for a new deal.

[Gmack7]

Nohan Kenneh Has to be one of our worst signings would you not think ? Gave him a 3 year contract and apparently one of the highest paid players at the club ?..Played a handful of games and never to be seen again

Didn't someone on here claim he was our best signing for a long time when we got him ? Best in training etc lol

Tavares would be my choice given the length of contract, a truly baffling decision

[Pretty Boy]

No time for sentiment im afraid..

That's where I am.

We have an opportunity to have a huge clear out that doesn't often present itself at clubs and we need to be ruthless.

I'd say someone like Boyle is one we have to say thanks for your service but no deal. You have to factor in his age, injury history and indeed his own stated desire to have a crack at Australia and decide if it justifies a contract that would have him among our top earners for another year or 2. He isn't going to sign on much reduced terms because he'll have options. Same with Chris Cadden; good servant but in his time here has he justified another 2 or 3 years?

We got ourselves into this situation by handing out big contracts to guys like JDH, Delferriere and even Campbell. Sentiment is for fans, the football guys need to be ruthless and use our very finite budget as best we can. I look at the list and ignoring the errors I would be looking at keeping only Obita and Rocky from the 1st team players, both as squad players. Of the young lads I'd look to keep McCallister but no idea how likely that and McIntyre but I am sure he is one of the errors. Beyond that I'd not be overly upset to see any of them go and being totally honest I'd shrug my shoulders if Rocky and Obita went as well.

[Weir07]

Agree with a hard nosed approach to any contract extensions but we need to be sure we're replacing with better, Boyle's still a potent weapon in the Scottish Premier League, he's had his injury issues this season but he can still produce the goods, so I'd definitely be tempted to extend, albeit on reduced terms. JDH, Mckirdy, Amos, Kenneh, Tavares and Moria Welsh's could all be released/moved on without a second thought though!

[Brightside]

Here is a list of current first team and youth team players out of contract at the end of the season. Who is worth keeping?

Junior Hoilett
Martin Boyle
Jordan Obita
Dwight Gayle (retiring)
Chris Cadden
Harry McKirdy
Jake Doyle-Hayes
Josh Campbell
Rocky Bushiri
Maksymilian Boruc
Nohan Kenneh
Lewis Miller
Luke Amos

Youth players
Ruben McAllistair
Josh O'Connor
Jacob MacIntyre
Robbie Hamilton

Loans
Mykola Kukharevych
Hyeok-kyu Kwon
Nectarios Triantis
Josef Bursik


This list is all over the place - hopefully you didnt take it from the Records daft report. But for the people on the list I would be keeping Cadden, Campbell, Obita.

[theonlywayisup]

Agree with a hard nosed approach to any contract extensions but we need to be sure we're replacing with better, Boyle's still a potent weapon in the Scottish Premier League, he's had his injury issues this season but he can still produce the goods, so I'd definitely be tempted to extend, albeit on reduced terms. JDH,Mckiridy, Amos, Kenneh, Tavares and Moria Welsh's could all be released/moved on without a second thought though!

Yes, I agree that it would be good to move on JDH,Mckiridy, Amos, Kenneh, Tavares and Moria Welsh, who have contributed the virtually nothing since they arrived (or past two years in the case of JDH). However, we need to be careful in who we get in to replace them. Maybe 2-3 loans from Bournemouth would be a safe option.

[Hibee Daft]

Only ones I'm not keen on are JDH, Mckirdy, Amos, Kenneth, Burisik.


For those saying don't extend Chris Cadden, he was a whisker away from scoring a superb goal in the Derby with his brother whipping it in and Chris getting on the end of it.


One of Caddens big strengths is his engine. Lwb and rwb is not an easy position but both caddens have been excellent recently.

Also think Nicky looks like a future captain for hibs.

[Brightside]

Only ones I'm not keen on are JDH, Mckirdy, Amos, Kenneth, Burisik.


For those saying don't extend Chris Cadden, he was a whisker away from scoring a superb goal in the Derby with his brother whipping it in and Chris getting on the end of it.


One of Caddens big strengths is his engine. Lwb and rwb is not an easy position but both caddens have been excellent recently.

Also think Nicky looks like a future captain for hibs.

Cadden is a superb squad member who provides loads of options on the park. He will 100% get extended. A proper solid pro and respected by everyone at the club.

[Eyrie]

With Campbell having already signed a new deal, the players I'd consider keeping (ie subject to who we could sign as an alternative) are -

Boyle - probably trigger the one year extension but he's a high earner which makes him vulnerable.
Cadden or Miller - keep one of them for depth. Cadden currently starts ahead of Miller but Miller is younger and more versatile from the bench.
Obita - the left sided depth player behind Nicky Cadden and Iredale.
Rocky - yes he's prone to the odd error but he's a solid centre half at our level. If we sign better to start then he gives us better depth than O'Hora.

On the youths, MacIntyre is highly rated so gets a 1-2 year deal. MacAllister was highly rated when we signed him but has he developed enough?

The only loan player I'd consider keeping is Triantis.

All the others listed can go which frees up a lot of wages for new and better players.

[HibbyAndy]

Why would Kenneh be anywhere near one of the highest earners in the squad?

Going by the chat at the time from well respected posters on here saying so , Which is why i said apparently , Not really that far fetched though when you also have Tavares as one of the highest earners and was given a ridiculous long contract , 2 players that have been complete failures and a waste of tons of cash

[WhileTheChief..]

Nohan Kenneh Has to be one of our worst signings would you not think ? Gave him a 3 year contract and apparently one of the highest paid players at the club ?..Played a handful of games and never to be seen again

Didn't someone on here claim he was our best signing for a long time when we got him ? Best in training etc lol

Yup, said at the time that we was a complete disaster of a signing.

From the minute he was loaned out it was clear he had no future with us.

I wouldn't be renewing any contracts until we see where we finish in the league. If we go on another run of 1 win in 10 or similar then it would be hard to argue for any of them.

[Allant1981]

Yup, said at the time that we was a complete disaster of a signing.

From the minute he was loaned out it was clear he had no future with us.

I wouldn't be renewing any contracts until we see where we finish in the league. If we go on another run of 1 win in 10 or similar then it would be hard to argue for any of them.

It was clear despite a poster on here thinking otherwise that kenneh was rank, he was never going to be good enough. It's sheer incompetence that he was given such a good contract and hopefully these types of signings don't happen again

[Northernhibee]

It was clear despite a poster on here thinking otherwise that kenneh was rank, he was never going to be good enough. It's sheer incompetence that he was given such a good contract and hopefully these types of signings don't happen again

How long does Jair’s contract have left to run? Blows my mind that anyone watched him and thought “that’s the sort of player who will improve us”

[JohnM1875]

How long does Jair’s contract have left to run? Blows my mind that anyone watched him and thought “that’s the sort of player who will improve us”

May 31st 2026 for Jair. So still another 17 months of him on the wage bill

[3pm]

Obita and Campbell aren't out of contract.

[PHeffernan]

Campbell is contracted to 2027 so he won’t be going unless an offer comes in . Cor******grect
Obita I thought has another year and one I’d keep if he hasn’t. Cor******grect
C. Cadden .. keep . No, will explain why below
Boyle .. keep . No, simply put, he is a 3.5k a week player on a 7k a week contract
Bushiri .. keep . If i'm Rocky i'm backing myself and leaving because i'm ambitous and for a clean slate
Miller.. keep . Yes, see the Cadden explanation below
And on the loans Triantis is one I’d like to see us try and sign . Sunderland will want to check him out so he won't be here next season
Not sure about the young players as I’ve not seen enough of them to comment.

See above
Re Chris Cadden.
We currently have 4 right backs and 4 into 2 doesn't go. The pathway for that position is blocked.

Kanayo Megwa is 21 at the start of March and appears ready when Hibs are.
He is currently behind 28 years old Chris Cadden and 24 years old Lewis Miller who are both out of contract at the end of May but ahead of 17 year old Rory Whittaker.
I reckon Hibs will take up their year option on Millers contract and seek to extend it, with Cadden being allowed to move on in the summer with Megwa taking his place in the 1st team squad.

My logic is Cadden will be on say 3 times the wage of Megwa so the money saved by Chris moving on can be added to the wages pot. Chris has no development in him as he approaches 29 so is unlikely to have a future sell on value. Miller is 24, has raw power and development possibilities in him especially maturity ones so more likely to have a future sell on value.
Cadden is a good pro but nothing more and Megwa is ready.

That will leave Whittaker out developing on loan and hopefully ready to take over from Miller or Megwa in due course.

[Ribs1875]

I've not seen enough of Kenneh to suggest he was good or bad. He is on way to high a wage for someone who doesn't get their game, same with JDH.

I only hope when we get these players away that we don't replace them with equally as dross signings who were either average performers for lesser teams or came from the youth teams from the likes of Leeds and Nottingham.

[3pm]

Cadden is a superb squad member who provides loads of options on the park. He will 100% get extended. A proper solid pro and respected by everyone at the club.

Not as convinced as you but if he is given another contract, Miller has to go IMO. I'd empty both.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'm not convinced Megwa or Whittaker will make it at Hibs, and if possible i'd like a new good right back and Miller or Cadden as back up.

[Allant1981]

How long does Jair’s contract have left to run? Blows my mind that anyone watched him and thought “that’s the sort of player who will improve us”

Still has about a year and a half, mental how bad our signings were at that time

[PHeffernan]

Obita and Campbell aren't out of contract.

All covered in post 23 on page 1

P.S. neither is Jacob MacIntyre and Robbie Hamilton left 7 months ago
All add up to a car crash of inaccuracy in the OP

[Donegal Hibby]

C’mon mate it was a shocker. And I would be more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt if he hadn’t been involved in multiple similar incidents. I’ve seen the guy nutmeg him self from a header on 2 occasions. His overall play has definitely improved but he has these moments in him and they often come in big games. Twice now in derby matches which have cost us goals.

It was more bad luck than the howler you’re suggesting imo and since coming back in he’s arguably been our best defender , it’s my opinion that he has improved a lot since signing having played a limited amount of games and could improve more in the future.

[Donegal Hibby]

Cadden as a winger has had about half a dozen assists for hibs in about 4 years, he is is not a good defender which is why he gets dropped for Miller

Rocky got dropped for a very long time, he has done OK since coming in but he gets caught out far to often, not very good in the air, he is good in a tackle I will admit but he is a reserve player

Miller isn't very good going forward and gets caught with players going past him constantly

Boyle has been off it for a while now, possibly down to injury but likely to be wanting a lof of money, should we pay someone top dollar who hasn't got into double figures in the league in about 4/5 years

In saying all that they will get my support as long as they are here but we need better to progress, league positions recently show that, stats show that

In order to replace these players unless we are picking up players out of contract it will probably cost us a fair bit of money to replace them…

In Rocky’s case we let him go and buy a CH in England for 300 or 400k which is probably about Rocky’s value there is no guarantees we will get better anyhow ….

And unless the pot of gold is bigger than I think it is I can’t see us totally clearing out everyone especially players that’s contributing when we have so many that’s not ! .

[Ribs1875]

All covered in post 23 on page 1

P.S. neither is Jacob MacIntyre and Robbie Hamilton left 7 months ago
All add up to a car crash of inaccuracy in the OP

Post is now corrected. I am particularly glad Campbell is under contract. I think he is another one who has the potential to become good player for us.

[Smartie]

Cadden is a superb squad member who provides loads of options on the park. He will 100% get extended. A proper solid pro and respected by everyone at the club.

Chris Cadden is an excellent wing back, no surprise he’s starting to look very comfortable since our shift in formation.

He’s just not as good as either a full back or a winger when we play 4 at the back.

I’ve always liked him, have seen the crosses he puts in as the sort of thing a decent striker should be feasting on and I’d definitely be looking to keep him.

[Allant1981]

In order to replace these players unless we are picking up players out of contract it will probably cost us a fair bit of money to replace them…

In Rocky’s case we let him go and buy a CH in England for 300 or 400k which is probably about Rocky’s value there is no guarantees we will get better anyhow ….

And unless the pot of gold is bigger than I think it is I can’t see us totally clearing out everyone especially players that’s contributing when we have so many that’s not ! .

Ekpiteta until he got injured was playing better, he didn't cost us a transfer fee, spending money also hasn't been an issue for the club, it's spending it properly and we haven't on a lot of players

[Ozyhibby]

I wouldn’t be renewing many of the current squad. We are in bottom half of table for a reason. One or two may be worth a reduced deal for an extra season but not many. If we want to improve we need to create space in the squad and the budget.


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[Centre Hawf]

I'd start by saying none of the loanees are worth considering staying. Especially if it costs money to keep them anyway. Youth players I'll probably leave up to the academy to decide if they're worth it or not. Plus I imagine Gayle and Hoilett will be away through a mixture of retirement and winding down of their careers.

In terms of folk I think we should definitely not keep the easy ones include -
JDH
Kenneh
McKirdy
Boruc
Amos

All have offered absolutely zero to the club for either all of their spell or at least a number of seasons.

After that you're only really left with a decision to make on four players.

Martin Boyle - Only keep him if new deal is 100% team friendly, he isn't the player he once was and while I think he can still make an impact at this level we under no circumstances can be held to ransom by any wage demands from him.
Rocky Bushiri - He's had a nice upturn in form but it will take a very prolonged period of this to make me thing it's worth it for everyone involved to do this again for 2/3 years. It may be the best for everyone that he goes off into the sunset remembered fondly for a last run of good form as opposed to anything else.
Lewis Miller - Miller has a one year option that the club can choose to pick up and I would imagine that will be activated either way at this point in the hope of at least selling him.
Chris Cadden - The one I'm more torn on than the others, I think Cadden has a lot to offer a squad in this league. He's versatile, probably not a huge wage drain, and probably a very good character/professional to have in the dressing room that coaches like to have. He reminds me a lot of Lewis Stevenson in a lot of ways which makes me think he's likely to stay, especially if Lewis Miller does leave. I know he's not the sexiest footballer talent wise but I think if you were to compare him to guys in this league he's probably about the level or slightly above of many others like Ryan Strain, Marcus Fraser, Connor Randall etc. So I think you can make a case that Cadden is a solid player to have in the squad.

[Hibee Daft]

We have Chris Cadden, Lewis Miller, Megwa and Whittaker for right backs.

Gray plays a 5 at the back tho so a player like Lewis Miller can and has been used as a rcb.

I'd like to see more from Megwa or Whittaker and one being loaned out.

I wouldn't be against keeping all 4 as Lewis Miller could be our answer at rcb, he certainly has the physicality for it

[Centre Hawf]

We have Chris Cadden, Lewis Miller, Megwa and Whittaker for right backs.

Gray plays a 5 at the back tho so a player like Lewis Miller can and has been used as a rcb.

I'd like to see more from Megwa or Whittaker and one being loaned out.

I wouldn't be against keeping all 4 as Lewis Miller could be our answer at rcb, he certainly has the physicality for it

At the moment I'd say Whittaker is still at least another couple of seasons away from being worth considering for a first team place. Megwa though needs to really do something sooner rather than later.

[Donegal Hibby]

Ekpiteta until he got injured was playing better, he didn't cost us a transfer fee, spending money also hasn't been an issue for the club, it's spending it properly and we haven't on a lot of players

Ekpiteta started poorly and did get better right enough though since coming in Rocky has been playing just as well imo which shows he’s a good player to have …

Spending money hasn’t been an issue for the club but it isn’t a bottomless pit where we can replace everyone , certainly doesn’t make sense to me to add to the cost by getting rid of players that can contribute when we can put whatever budget we have to better use imo .

[The Modfather]

I'd start by saying none of the loanees are worth considering staying. Especially if it costs money to keep them anyway. Youth players I'll probably leave up to the academy to decide if they're worth it or not. Plus I imagine Gayle and Hoilett will be away through a mixture of retirement and winding down of their careers.

In terms of folk I think we should definitely not keep the easy ones include -
JDH
Kenneh
McKirdy
Boruc
Amos

All have offered absolutely zero to the club for either all of their spell or at least a number of seasons.

After that you're only really left with a decision to make on four players.

Martin Boyle - Only keep him if new deal is 100% team friendly, he isn't the player he once was and while I think he can still make an impact at this level we under no circumstances can be held to ransom by any wage demands from him.
Rocky Bushiri - He's had a nice upturn in form but it will take a very prolonged period of this to make me thing it's worth it for everyone involved to do this again for 2/3 years. It may be the best for everyone that he goes off into the sunset remembered fondly for a last run of good form as opposed to anything else.
Lewis Miller - Miller has a one year option that the club can choose to pick up and I would imagine that will be activated either way at this point in the hope of at least selling him.
Chris Cadden - The one I'm more torn on than the others, I think Cadden has a lot to offer a squad in this league. He's versatile, probably not a huge wage drain, and probably a very good character/professional to have in the dressing room that coaches like to have. He reminds me a lot of Lewis Stevenson in a lot of ways which makes me think he's likely to stay, especially if Lewis Miller does leave. I know he's not the sexiest footballer talent wise but I think if you were to compare him to guys in this league he's probably about the level or slightly above of many others like Ryan Strain, Marcus Fraser, Connor Randall etc. So I think you can make a case that Cadden is a solid player to have in the squad.

Agree with most of this. Though Rocky is the only one of the 4 playing for another year or two IMO.

On Cadden. I’m not a fan. When you say he’s versatile do you mean he can be played at right back or right wing when needed? I think he’s poor at both, particularly right wing. I’d maybe see the merit in keeping him as backup wingback but not much more.

If we’ve got the recruitment finally functioning as it should I think it’s not too hard to replace any of the out of contract players with better (be that a like for like comparison or with players that make us more than the sum of our parts) for a similar cost.

[Centre Hawf]

Agree with most of this. Though Rocky is the only one of the 4 playing for another year or two IMO.

On Cadden. I’m not a fan. When you say he’s versatile do you mean he can be played at right back or right wing when needed? I think he’s poor at both, particularly right wing. I’d maybe see the merit in keeping him as backup wingback but not much more.

If we’ve got the recruitment finally functioning as it should I think it’s not too hard to replace any of the out of contract players with better (be that a like for like comparison or with players that make us more than the sum of our parts) for a similar cost.

If we resigned Rocky on his current form I'd be fairly happy to be honest. I like the big man and I sometimes forget myself how young and inexperienced he was when he showed up here overall. But I also know how horrible it could get for him if he plays his way back into a run of form we've seen at times.

On Cadden I think as a right sided defender he's fairly average or stable for this division. I don't really look at him as ever being a reason we've lost games of football and thus don't really see him as someone in a position that I focus a lot of my attention on where we need to strengthen immediately. That being said I'd only keep one of Miller or Cadden as I'd like to see Megwa potentially step up, and I think we'd probably see Miller leave before Cadden anyway.

[Allant1981]

If we resigned Rocky on his current form I'd be fairly happy to be honest. I like the big man and I sometimes forget myself how young and inexperienced he was when he showed up here overall. But I also know how horrible it could get for him if he plays his way back into a run of form we've seen at times.

On Cadden I think as a right sided defender he's fairly average or stable for this division. I don't really look at him as ever being a reason we've lost games of football and thus don't really see him as someone in a position that I focus a lot of my attention on where we need to strengthen immediately. That being said I'd only keep one of Miller or Cadden as I'd like to see Megwa potentially step up, and I think we'd probably see Miller leave before Cadden anyway.

Based on today if it was between keeping Miller or cadden it would be Miller, cadden showed time and again that he isn't a good defender

[PHeffernan]

Post is now corrected. I am particularly glad Campbell is under contract. I think he is another one who has the potential to become good player for us.

Almost, you still have Robbie Hamilton in your post. He left Hibs 7 months ago.

[Unseen work]

Based on today if it was between keeping Miller or cadden it would be Miller, cadden showed time and again that he isn't a good defender

I was in disbelief at how easily Fraser Murray was going past Cadden

[Paul1642]

Based on today if it was between keeping Miller or cadden it would be Miller, cadden showed time and again that he isn't a good defender

I agree completely with this however I’m swaying towards neither with a new RV brought in and Megwa as cover.

[Allant1981]

I agree completely with this however I’m swaying towards neither with a new RV brought in and Megwa as cover.

I'd rather someone new was brought in also, neither of them are very good at RB, Miller could possibly move into a right centre half based on today

[Ribs1875]

Almost, you still have Robbie Hamilton in your post. He left Hibs 7 months ago.

Disappointed, so did Jacob Blaney. Come at me, but we definitely struggle to produce a good volume young players who go on to the first team.

Ryan Porteous is the best thing we've produced in recent years and tbh I wasn't a fan due to his bad attitude.

[Donegal Hibby]

Another couple of reasons why I’ve suggested we should keep some of the players is when you see our bench today and considering Youan , Bowie being out plus players like Newell and Iredale playing with injuries or picking up injuries we need a decent squad of players to handle a hectic schedule like this .

[Murphys Touch]

Whittaker can’t get a game for Spartans….he is MILES aff it

[Ronniekirk]

Is Dylan Vente not out on loan ?

[ekhibee]

That's where I am.

We have an opportunity to have a huge clear out that doesn't often present itself at clubs and we need to be ruthless.

I'd say someone like Boyle is one we have to say thanks for your service but no deal. You have to factor in his age, injury history and indeed his own stated desire to have a crack at Australia and decide if it justifies a contract that would have him among our top earners for another year or 2. He isn't going to sign on much reduced terms because he'll have options. Same with Chris Cadden; good servant but in his time here has he justified another 2 or 3 years?

We got ourselves into this situation by handing out big contracts to guys like JDH, Delferriere and even Campbell. Sentiment is for fans, the football guys need to be ruthless and use our very finite budget as best we can. I look at the list and ignoring the errors I would be looking at keeping only Obita and Rocky from the 1st team players, both as squad players. Of the young lads I'd look to keep McCallister but no idea how likely that and McIntyre but I am sure he is one of the errors. Beyond that I'd not be overly upset to see any of them go and being totally honest I'd shrug my shoulders if Rocky and Obita went as well.

Basically you took the words out of my mouth, totally agree with every word.

[PHeffernan]

Whittaker can’t get a game for Spartans….he is MILES aff it

Finger on the pulse.

Whittaker started for Spartans on Saturday.

[PHeffernan]

Disappointed, so did Jacob Blaney. Come at me, but we definitely struggle to produce a good volume young players who go on to the first team.

Ryan Porteous is the best thing we've produced in recent years and tbh I wasn't a fan due to his bad attitude.

The attrition rates for young players at football clubs are brutal and the bigger the club the more brutal they are.
The 5 biggest clubs in Scotland produce very few players who ultimately prove good enough to become established players in their first teams.
I think Fraser Murray is the only ex Hibs youngster currently playing in the Scottish top tier, however, if you look in the leagues below there are many that didn't quite make it.

[PHeffernan]

Is Dylan Vente not out on loan ?

He is.
Plays in the Dutch top tier for PEC Zwolle.

[Pretty Boy]

Finger on the pulse.

Whittaker started for Spartans on Saturday.

And was miles off it particularly in the 1st half.

He played because they have about a dozen players out injured, they had a midfielder playing out of position starting ahead of him last week.

[Just_Jimmy]

Not a single contract should be offered. They're either serial under achievers or older. Clear the decks and save cash, they'll nearly all be high earners.

The youth players can be reviewed, however on current form and recent history, we're not exactly giving a chance or bringing them through.

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[Unseen work]

Not a single contract should be offered. They're either serial under achievers or older. Clear the decks and save cash, they'll nearly all be high earners.

The youth players can be reviewed, however on current form and recent history, we're not exactly giving a chance or bringing them through.

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Genuine question, are many deserving of a chance?

O’Connor, Whittaker, Landers, Molotnikov, McIntyre have all played in the first team recently

Do any of them deserve more game time? Do any of the youth team that haven’t had a chance deserve one? Like Zaid or even Cleland as he seems to score every week? McAllister another perhaps?

[Speedy]

Going by the chat at the time from well respected posters on here saying so , Which is why i said apparently , Not really that far fetched though when you also have Tavares as one of the highest earners and was given a ridiculous long contract , 2 players that have been complete failures and a waste of tons of cash

Kenneh was a 19 year old who had never played a senior game when he signed. Some serious mismanagement if he's one of our highest earners.

[Jones28]

Not a single contract should be offered. They're either serial under achievers or older. Clear the decks and save cash, they'll nearly all be high earners.

The youth players can be reviewed, however on current form and recent history, we're not exactly giving a chance or bringing them through.

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Sorry but thats just crazy. Is there no room for a player the redeem themselves?

Are the young players deserving of a chance? Is there anyone good enough to warrant dropping a players whos contributed to 5 wins in 6 games after an awful start?

[WhileTheChief..]

That's where I am.

We have an opportunity to have a huge clear out that doesn't often present itself at clubs and we need to be ruthless.

I'd say someone like Boyle is one we have to say thanks for your service but no deal. You have to factor in his age, injury history and indeed his own stated desire to have a crack at Australia and decide if it justifies a contract that would have him among our top earners for another year or 2. He isn't going to sign on much reduced terms because he'll have options. Same with Chris Cadden; good servant but in his time here has he justified another 2 or 3 years?

We got ourselves into this situation by handing out big contracts to guys like JDH, Delferriere and even Campbell. Sentiment is for fans, the football guys need to be ruthless and use our very finite budget as best we can. I look at the list and ignoring the errors I would be looking at keeping only Obita and Rocky from the 1st team players, both as squad players. Of the young lads I'd look to keep McCallister but no idea how likely that and McIntyre but I am sure he is one of the errors. Beyond that I'd not be overly upset to see any of them go and being totally honest I'd shrug my shoulders if Rocky and Obita went as well.

Agree with this for the most part.

I'd also be looking to move on a lot of the players still under contract at the end of the season.

Use the next 5 months to determine if any of the current squad can really cut it, and take us to where we want to be. That should be for Gray to decide, no one else.

If he doesn't think they're good enough, pay up their contracts and let them go. Our squad is way too big anyways.

Forget about buying youth or players with potential. Aim for a quad of 20-24 players that are fit and ready to contribute from the beginning of the season. No more project players or guys that need 6 moths to settle or get up to speed.

Let's try and do things properly from now on.

[Centre Hawf]

Another couple of reasons why I’ve suggested we should keep some of the players is when you see our bench today and considering Youan , Bowie being out plus players like Newell and Iredale playing with injuries or picking up injuries we need a decent squad of players to handle a hectic schedule like this .

I think this is something important to remember when building the squad for next season. We need to be better at balancing our squad. We have too many players in midfield for example that are miles off it and sucking up wages that mean we’re light in other areas of the park.

So while we physically have players we’re now playing two full backs in a back 3 and two wingers up top. Meanwhile when Newell or Triantis need subbed we don’t rate any of the options we have to replace them.

[PHeffernan]

And was miles off it particularly in the 1st half.

He played because they have about a dozen players out injured, they had a midfielder playing out of position starting ahead of him last week.

Not so good, I noticed their right back Kieran Watson hadn't played this month and that they were now missing centre halves Paul Watson and Ayrton Sonkur.
On the upside Spartans had 6 players on the bench, won the match, didn't concede a goal and Whittaker played the full 90.

[PHeffernan]

Agree with this for the most part.

I'd also be looking to move on a lot of the players still under contract at the end of the season.

Use the next 5 months to determine if any of the current squad can really cut it, and take us to where we want to be. That should be for Gray to decide, no one else.

If he doesn't think they're good enough, pay up their contracts and let them go. Our squad is way too big anyways.

There are only 15 senior players contracted for next season and a few of them are likely to move on so this will happen fairly naturally

Forget about buying youth or players with potential. Aim for a quad of 20-24 players that are fit and ready to contribute from the beginning of the season. No more project players or guys that need 6 moths to settle or get up to speed.

This change of transfer strategy visibly started in the summer e.g. Nicky Cadden, Ekpiteta, Bowie, O'Hora, Hoilett and Gayle. There were no projects signed unless you want to call Bowie one.
This summer will see the job completed with another half dozen senior players come in and the out of contract deadwood moving on.

Let's try and do things properly from now on.

See above

[Ozyhibby]

And was miles off it particularly in the 1st half.

He played because they have about a dozen players out injured, they had a midfielder playing out of position starting ahead of him last week.

Wylie and Chisholm look better prospects at Spartans right now and are the same age.


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[PHeffernan]

Genuine question, are many deserving of a chance?

O’Connor, Whittaker, Landers, Molotnikov, McIntyre have all played in the first team recently

Do any of them deserve more game time? Do any of the youth team that haven’t had a chance deserve one? Like Zaid or even Cleland as he seems to score every week? McAllister another perhaps?

They will naturally get their chance if they are obviously ready or prove themselves ready on loan.

At the moment I would say only Megwa and possibly Jacob MacIntyre are close to that and I suspect both O'Connor and Zaid from your post will leave Hibs at the end of May.
Other guys like McAllister have it technically but not yet physically to get a chance at the moment.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think this is something important to remember when building the squad for next season. We need to be better at balancing our squad. We have too many players in midfield for example that are miles off it and sucking up wages that mean we’re light in other areas of the park.

So while we physically have players we’re now playing two full backs in a back 3 and two wingers up top. Meanwhile when Newell or Triantis need subbed we don’t rate any of the options we have to replace them.

I agree about having better balance when building the squad for next season and we are certainly overloaded with midfielders that are just taking up wages which has probably hindered what we can do …

I think rebuilding the squad could prove to be costly and whatever money the club have to do it we have to maximise it in order to get things right which is the reason i think we need to keep a few of the players coming out of contract that can still contribute without letting them go and adding extra cost to the rebuild in the summer..

Players like Rocky , Miller and C. Cadden can IMO all be valuable players to have in our squad next season.. about Cadden for example I don’t think his strength is defending though he’s versatile IMO which is something handy to have in a player over the course of a long season…

I have heard on here about these players not contributing or not being very good though I don’t think that’s the case as we have seen with both Rocky and Miller recently.


I think we need to add better players while keeping a few of what we have. Interesting article I read on C Cadden who now is probably one of the more unpopular players on here …

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/inside-chris-cadden-stunning-hibs-27035150

[PHeffernan]

Wylie and Chisholm look better prospects at Spartans right now and are the same age.


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Neither get a game for Spartans yet.
Are they better athletes than Whittaker?
Athletes that can pass the ball appear to be the guys that do well in this era of the game and if they are good footballers as well they can go to the top.

[The dalmeny]

I suspect both O'Connor and Zaid from your post will leave Hibs at the end of May.


I wonder if these guys are at an age where mindset has a bigger impact on what they do and the novelty of being a pro footballer has worn off after a few years.

[PHeffernan]

I wonder if these guys are at an age where mindset has a bigger impact on what they do and the novelty of being a pro footballer has worn off after a few years.

I doubt it, but young men mature at different rates both mentally and physically. Positive mindset, work ethic etc, young players need it all, as well as ability, to make it at Hibs level.
Professional football is a more brutal business than ever before and both these guys will have seen of literally hundreds of other kids in their time at Hibs and perhaps this is their time not to make the cut. I've not seen Zaid play for a while but suspect he is still being held back by being physically slight but if he continues to stick in, his time could come somewhere else at 22.

Someone like Maurice Dougan who posts on here and has regularly watched all the young players for years will have a far more informed and valid assessment of current and previous young players than the rest of us on here so is probably the man to answer your question.

[PHeffernan]

Molotnikov signs a new 4 year contract until summer 2029

Miller or McAllister next?

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/december/30/rudi-molotnikov-signs-long-term-deal-/

[Ozyhibby]

Neither get a game for Spartans yet.
Are they better athletes than Whittaker?
Athletes that can pass the ball appear to be the guys that do well in this era of the game and if they are good footballers as well they can go to the top.

Just eye test, I think they are better players. We’ll see. Even at the level all these lads are at, the chances of making a career is still very small.


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[Ribs1875]

Amos made it public he's wanting away, 1 down 11 to go lol.