Should 3rd Place Carry A Trophy?

[judas]

Given the enormous disparity in wealth and the annual charade we have to go through, trying to compete with the infirm, do we think 3rd place deserves more recognition?

I know people will point to Aberdeen at the present time, but we know it’s only Xmas and they will not be better off than 3rd this season

Headlines like ‘Hibs Defeat Dents Aberdeen Title Bid’ are embarrassing and fuel the infirm perception that they are in a fair fight.

My respect (apart from my own club) goes out to teams like Motherwell who haven’t been relegated for 40 years and have been 3rd a few times.

That any team ever beats Celtic (besides Rangers) is a small miracle when you weigh up the variables.

[Pagan Hibernia]

no and I'd be absolutely embarrassed to receive such a trophy.

[green day]

Does second place get one?

[superfurryhibby]

No.

[He's here!]

No. Rangers and Celtic should just play in their own mini league. Or preferably disappear from football entirely.

[Donegal Hibby]

No … though in saying that I always look on third as winning the league anyhow.

[Dashing Bob S]

I understand where the OP is coming from. Finishing 3rd is a bigger achievement for a club and its manager than Brendan Rogers buying trophies for a club like stamps. It’s nothing more taxing than a visit to the local post office for them.

But we have to compete and maintain sporting values in face of the financial noncery.

[greenlex]

Every club making the top six should get one. Also the club eventually topping the bottom six too. Chuck in a play off winner and runner up trophy and also one every time you beat one of the old firm and jobs a good un.

[He's here!]

I understand where the OP is coming from. Finishing 3rd is a bigger achievement for a club and its manager than Brendan Rogers buying trophies for a club like stamps. It’s nothing more taxing than a visit to the local post office for them.

But we have to compete and maintain sporting values in face of the financial noncery.

If Rodgers had to go and stand in the queue at our local post office every day over the Christmas season he'd deserve a trophy.

[Contador]

The ‘trophy’ at the moment is £5million and group stage European football.

Whilst Hearts and Aberdeen haven’t exactly performed well, the trips they have had to Germany, Italy, Belgium etc aren’t to be sniffed at. Memories that supporting a football team are all about.

Handing out a trophy for it though plays into the idea of Scottish football only being all about the Old Firm.

[weecounty hibby]

Absolutely not! 3rd isn't even the first placed loser!! The only club who makes a big deal about being 3rd is, not surprisingly, hearts

[J-C]

Noooo!!!!

[gbhibby]

Given the enormous disparity in wealth and the annual charade we have to go through, trying to compete with the infirm, do we think 3rd place deserves more recognition?

I know people will point to Aberdeen at the present time, but we know it’s only Xmas and they will not be better off than 3rd this season

Headlines like ‘Hibs Defeat Dents Aberdeen Title Bid’ are embarrassing and fuel the infirm perception that they are in a fair fight.

My respect (apart from my own club) goes out to teams like Motherwell who haven’t been relegated for 40 years and have been 3rd a few times.

That any team ever beats Celtic (besides Rangers) is a small miracle when you weigh up the variables.
Is that you Arsene?

[kentao]

Absolutely not! 3rd isn't even the first placed loser!! The only club who makes a big deal about being 3rd is, not surprisingly, hearts

Didn't they claim joint 1st one year? :faf::faf::faf:

[Vini1875]

We're living in a world of participation trophies. Ridiculous idea, bin this thread. If anything Leicester showed it is possible even if unlikely. All that said getting 3rd this season would feel like winning the league.

[WhileTheChief..]

I'd like to see a company offer a prize for finishing 3rd.

Nothing official, just something along the lines of finish 3rd, here's £1M+ or whatever :greengrin

Would help close the gap on the old firm and give you something to play for other than a Euro qualifying game against a team we've never heard of.

Don't see any harm in it at all.

[Bostonhibby]

And give Hearts a chance to have an open topped bus parade? No chance.

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[DH1875]

Don't half read some rubbish on here at times. Along the lines of us finishing 6th in the league as being seen as a success. If it's budget related then should 3rd, 6th or 10th get a trophy depending on who finishes in these positions and what their budget is? For some teams just staying in the league is a successful season. Should give them a trophy for it.

[lugz]

No. Rangers and Celtic should just play in their own mini league. Or preferably disappear from football entirely.

This i would much rather our league deemed as smaller without those 2 but extremely competitive.

[DH1875]

42 teams in the Scottish top leagues. If it sucks being a Hibs, Aberdeen or Hearts fan, must really suck being a fan of all the other teams. If Motherwell deserve a pat on the back, what about the fans of Hamilton, Morton, Partick Thistle, Airdrie, Dumbarton etc.....should hand them all out trophies for just taking part.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Don't half read some rubbish on here at times. Along the lines of us finishing 6th in the league as being seen as a success. If it's budget related then should 3rd, 6th or 10th get a trophy depending on who finishes in these positions and what their budget is? For some teams just staying in the league is a successful season. Should give them a trophy for it.

It's a crappy state of affairs but, very much this.

[tamig]

What a bizarre suggestion. No chance.

[tamig]

42 teams in the Scottish top leagues. If it sucks being a Hibs, Aberdeen or Hearts fan, must really suck being a fan of all the other teams. If Motherwell deserve a pat on the back, what about the fans of Hamilton, Morton, Partick Thistle, Airdrie, Dumbarton etc.....should hand them all out trophies for just taking part.

If we’d progressed as we should have after our third place finish and got group stage European football for a few years, I don’t think any of us would have said it sucks following Hibs. Gross mismanagement has cost us dear.

[Lago]

Given the enormous disparity in wealth and the annual charade we have to go through, trying to compete with the infirm, do we think 3rd place deserves more recognition?

I know people will point to Aberdeen at the present time, but we know it’s only Xmas and they will not be better off than 3rd this season

Headlines like ‘Hibs Defeat Dents Aberdeen Title Bid’ are embarrassing and fuel the infirm perception that they are in a fair fight.

My respect (apart from my own club) goes out to teams like Motherwell who haven’t been relegated for 40 years and have been 3rd a few times.

That any team ever beats Celtic (besides Rangers) is a small miracle when you weigh up the variables.
What like at a school sports award, never.

[Scouse Hibee]

Absurd suggestion in my opinion, absolutely not.

[Bostonhibby]

Came 2nd in the egg and spoon race once, never really recovered from it but not sure a trophy would have lessened the blow.....

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[Bridge hibs]

Came 2nd in the egg and spoon race once, never really recovered from it but not sure a trophy would have lessened the blow.....

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Not me, I would have asked for the ****ing egg !

[Bostonhibby]

Not me, I would have asked for the ****ing egg !Too late, kicked f out of it for slowing me down.

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[hibsbollah]

I get where the OP is coming from. But It’ll never happen, because it would be a public admission of how dysfunctional our structure is in which only two clubs are allowed to win anything.

Interestingly the french often refer to the top three as ‘le podium’ and finishing third was always considered a decent bronze medal consolation prize, even before the days when that came with a champions league place. In l’equipe you often read about the ‘race to get on the podium’.

[Onion]

Yes, the Free From Bigotry Champions Trophy

[Viva_Palmeiras]

We're living in a world of participation trophies. Ridiculous idea, bin this thread. If anything Leicester showed it is possible even if unlikely. All that said getting 3rd this season would feel like winning the league.

I mean whodda thunk being backed by a billionaire could make an impact :)

still a phenomenal achievement but it’s not like Dundee United winning the league with a fully Scottish team - a ln a pretty threadbare one iirc.

[Donegal Hibby]

Next thing will be the Jambos wanting one for entering the league cup :na na:

[H18 SFR]

It would probably make me less likely to want to spectate if we went to Mickey Mouse levels by having a trophy and presentation for finishing third.

[Carheenlea]

Absolutely not! 3rd isn't even the first placed loser!! The only club who makes a big deal about being 3rd is, not surprisingly, hearts

Hearts used to list 3rd place finishes on their list of honours on the official club website. Thankfully someone with a bit more dignity must have taken over the running of the site and removed that particular “honour” to save any further embarrassment.

I had a screen grab if it which I wish I could still find. It’ll be on here somewhere no doubt!

[Pretty Boy]

All things considered we are playing in a totally different competition from Celtic and to a lesser extent Rangers. Another Scottish club winning the Premiership would be a bigger achievement than Leicester winning the EPL and by some distance. No argument will change my mind on that.

In a one off game you will compete with them but over the season no one is going to get close more than once a decade. 40 years since a non OF team last won the league and it will be another 40 and then some before that changes. Rangers are having a self described disaster of a season domestically and they have lost only 3 games, by season end would anyone bet on them losing any more than 6 or 7 and that's factoring in them playing Celtic 3 more times. In the last 4 season the team that have finished 3rd have lost 11 times on 3 occasions and 17 times (yes, really) on the other. How mad/bad is that? A team that lost 17 games was best of the rest.

It would be totally tinpot to present a trophy for finishing 3rd but it is what 10 of us are competing for. Pretending otherwise is living in cloud cuckoo land.

[Keith_M]

I do believe this has been discussed before and, rightly, dismissed as ridiculous.

[Bostonhibby]

Shouldn't we just wait to see where the Gorgie galacticos big computer takes them to then award a trophy for said position?

A 6ft or 7ft tall faux gold effort along the lines of the Jules Rimet, but with a more Scottish spin to it?

Off the top of my head, the mrs doctor Budge Big Cup might be appropriate?

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[Carheenlea]

Shouldn't we just wait to see where the Gorgie galacticos big computer takes them to then award a trophy for said position?

A 6ft or 7ft tall faux gold effort along the lines of the Jules Rimet, but with a more Scottish spin to it?

Off the top of my head, the mrs doctor Budge Big Cup might be appropriate?

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A recreation of her “Ann the Redeemer” pose at the grand opening of the unfinished wonder stand would be a splendid trophy.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK8LjPXW/Photoroom-20241223-190553.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FfrkBDVR)

[Bostonhibby]

A recreation of her “Ann the Redeemer” pose at the grand opening of the unfinished wonder stand would be a splendid trophy.

https://i.postimg.cc/SK8LjPXW/Photoroom-20241223-190553.jpg (https://postimg.cc/FfrkBDVR)[emoji16] Nearly perfect, some sort of crown would finish it off, and maybe a sceptre and orb?

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[HiBremian]

Yes, the Free From Bigotry Champions TrophyOn reflection, a trophy for second place might make some sense if it split the bigot brothers. The "what came out between the two cheeks" trophy?

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[hibstag]

No. Rangers and Celtic should just play in their own mini league. Or preferably disappear from football entirely.

They kinda already do… media less bothered by Aberdeens start than rangers form and yesterday Celtic dropped points attempting to match rangers , if they were to finally move onto different climes via a euro league we would have to aid this disappearance by offering them the opportunity to compete in the Scottish cup and access European football via this

[gbhibby]

The runner up to the runner up award. Did Arsene not say 4th place in the premier league was a trophy. The awarding of a trophy for the promotion play offs is ridiculous as well. Don't get me started about school sports day and awarding a medal for taking part. Only winners should get a medal in the Olympics as well. Who remembers who finished second or third(1986) being the exception.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Jeezo someone's been on the drink early this year. No absolutely not and it would be absolutely cringeworthy to receive such a trophy.

I'd prefer the OF just ship off down south and leave the rest of us to it.

[gbhibby]

On reflection, a trophy for second place might make some sense if it split the bigot brothers. The "what came out between the two cheeks" trophy?

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The Arsein trophy

[Sylar]

Let's do one better and fully invert the Scottish football prize money structure. Largest payout to the club who finish bottom of League 2, and a complete redistribution of wealth away from the dominant club. I'm sure everyone would agree to such a move in the interest of radical restructuring and strengthening of the full pyramid?

[hibsbollah]

Let's do one better and fully invert the Scottish football prize money structure. Largest payout to the club who finish bottom of League 2, and a complete redistribution of wealth away from the dominant club. I'm sure everyone would agree to such a move in the interest of radical restructuring and strengthening of the full pyramid?

Commie.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Commie.

100%, this is woke nonsense like Netflix and Starmers war on Christmas. Also milk.


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[Donegal Hibby]

Jeezo someone's been on the drink early this year. No absolutely not and it would be absolutely cringeworthy to receive such a trophy.

I'd prefer the OF just ship off down south and leave the rest of us to it.

I’d like that too but the reality I think is it would make things worse than they are ☹️

[Since452]

3rd carries a bit of unofficial clout anyway. It's an achievement for any club outside the arse cheeks. Sad but true. Should never be a trophy for it though.

[Carheenlea]

Interestingly the french often refer to the top three as ‘le podium’ and finishing third was always considered a decent bronze medal consolation prize, even before the days when that came with a champions league place. In l’equipe you often read about the ‘race to get on the podium’.

Quite interesting that, and a slightly different mindset to our own, but one more aligned to French culture than ours I guess.

In a sporting competition, to finish third does come with some merit, but in Scottish football it will always be more a verbal recognition and that’s as far as it needs to go.

[cocteautwin]

The problem is, with their financial advantage of over £50m in recent donations and £15m of extra Euro money, Hearts will run away with this trophy every year. Maybe

[Bostonhibby]

The problem is, with their financial advantage of over £50m in recent donations and £15m of extra Euro money, Hearts will run away with this trophy every year. MaybeIs there a trophy for least points earned per million donated? This is the sort of thing big teams should be aiming for.

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[sauzee1989]

Would prefer we done something similar to Holland. 3rd v 6th 4th v 5th and then a final at Hampden to decide europe. Team in 3rd and 4th play at home though one match semi.