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Hibrandenburg
20-12-2024, 09:02 PM
Another attack on a German Christmas market. At least 2 dead and 70 injured on the anniversary of the attack on the Berlin Christmas market 8 years ago.
Bild Zeitung reporting that the perpetrator was arrested and is a Saudi Arabian doctor, how true that is is still to be verified. If true then the fallout will be immense.
oconnors_strip
20-12-2024, 10:06 PM
Ive just seen footage of the incident and the aftermath, absolutely sickening and heartbreaking
Ozyhibby
20-12-2024, 10:18 PM
A gift for AfD in the election sadly.
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Ozyhibby
21-12-2024, 12:11 AM
A gift for AfD in the election sadly.
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https://bsky.app/profile/ramijarrah.bsky.social/post/3ldrotuqo6s2t
Turns out he’s a right wing nut job who supports the AfD and Musk.
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Hibrandenburg
21-12-2024, 06:36 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/ramijarrah.bsky.social/post/3ldrotuqo6s2t
Turns out he’s a right wing nut job who supports the AfD and Musk.
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If past experience of this sort of thing tells us anything, then it's to wait until the dust has settled instead of forming an opinion based on what social media is saying.
grunt
21-12-2024, 06:45 AM
If past experience of this sort of thing tells us anything, then it's to wait until the dust has settled instead of forming an opinion based on what social media is saying.
Der Spiegel seems to be quoting from an interview with the suspect. He professes admiration for Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk.
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lg6hkdrtipy2it5hxwgv4a62/bafkreidzmmgbmju6543oyxgvz3dvszc3ju4s757mafr3jti27 gjlcb2cdq@jpeg
Hibrandenburg
21-12-2024, 06:54 AM
Der Spiegel seems to be quoting from an interview with the suspect. He professes admiration for Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk.
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lg6hkdrtipy2it5hxwgv4a62/bafkreidzmmgbmju6543oyxgvz3dvszc3ju4s757mafr3jti27 gjlcb2cdq@jpeg
I'm still going to wait until confirmed facts replace speculation before trying to understand why someone has deliberately driven a car at high speed through a gathering of innocent men, women and children. Although the why will become irrelevant and his skin colour will more than likely be the cause of massive fallout after this incident.
Ozyhibby
21-12-2024, 07:34 AM
I'm still going to wait until confirmed facts replace speculation before trying to understand why someone has deliberately driven a car at high speed through a gathering of innocent men, women and children. Although the why will become irrelevant and his skin colour will more than likely be the cause of massive fallout after this incident.
There appears now to be lots of evidence he was a big supporter of AfD and was an atheist.
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Keith_M
21-12-2024, 07:51 AM
This is totally bizarre.
What can anybody hope to achieve by doing something like this, regardless of their religion or political views?
:confused:
Ozyhibby
21-12-2024, 08:54 AM
This is totally bizarre.
What can anybody hope to achieve by doing something like this, regardless of their religion or political views?
:confused:
It’s like school shootings etc. No reasonable person can ever come up with an explanation. Some people are just broken.
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Ozyhibby
21-12-2024, 08:58 AM
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Hibrandenburg
21-12-2024, 09:06 AM
There appears now to be lots of evidence he was a big supporter of AfD and was an atheist.
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That won't make an ounce of difference, even if true. The fact he is an immigrant and has brown skin will be enough to bolster support for the right.
DaveF
21-12-2024, 09:09 AM
Seems like a bit of planning fail in that there were concrete blocks at the market, presumably to prevent a truck getting through but the gaps were big enough for a car.
Smartie
21-12-2024, 11:05 AM
Seems like a bit of planning fail in that there were concrete blocks at the market, presumably to prevent a truck getting through but the gaps were big enough for a car.
I was walking along George Street the other day and noticed the concrete blocks at the end of the road. I did think at the time that if I was a terrorist intent on killing and maiming as many people as possible that I’d probably use car, mount the pavement to go round the blocks and then have free reign to mow down as many people as I wanted to.
It looked like a fairly obvious flaw to me.
Ozyhibby
21-12-2024, 11:14 AM
That won't make an ounce of difference, even if true. The fact he is an immigrant and has brown skin will be enough to bolster support for the right.
He’s one of them though. This is an attack by a right wing anti Muslim nut job. And we should never tire of saying so. Let them be the ones pointing to the colour of his skin.
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Itsnoteasy
21-12-2024, 01:21 PM
I was walking along George Street the other day and noticed the concrete blocks at the end of the road. I did think at the time that if I was a terrorist intent on killing and maiming as many people as possible that I’d probably use car, mount the pavement to go round the blocks and then have free reign to mow down as many people as I wanted to.
It looked like a fairly obvious flaw to me.
Do you think there is space to allow for emergency vehicles?
Hibrandenburg
21-12-2024, 03:15 PM
He’s one of them though. This is an attack by a right wing anti Muslim nut job. And we should never tire of saying so. Let them be the ones pointing to the colour of his skin.
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Even if what is being speculated is true, there's no way the far right will accept to believe that he's one of their own. For them he'll just be another Arab terrorist immigrant that proves they're right.
Ozyhibby
21-12-2024, 04:23 PM
Even if what is being speculated is true, there's no way the far right will accept to believe that he's one of their own. For them he'll just be another Arab terrorist immigrant that proves they're right.
Doesn’t matter, it was done in their name.
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Smartie
21-12-2024, 06:07 PM
Do you think there is space to allow for emergency vehicles?
Possibly, but does that not defeat the purpose?
Berwickhibby
21-12-2024, 06:15 PM
Doesn’t matter, it was done in their name.
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Could not care less on what side of the political spectrum or religion they follow, this ****bag murdered innocent people trying to enjoy the Christmas market. I feel for their families right now.
Hibrandenburg
21-12-2024, 06:24 PM
Doesn’t matter, it was done in their name.
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They'll still win votes for it, all many will see is the perpetrator's Arab ethnicity.
Hibrandenburg
21-12-2024, 06:29 PM
Could not care less on what side of the political spectrum or religion they follow, this ****bag murdered innocent people trying to enjoy the Christmas market. I feel for their families right now.
I'm sure everyone is feeling for the victims and their families, it's still possible to ask questions like why though.
Paul1642
21-12-2024, 06:43 PM
Could not care less on what side of the political spectrum or religion they follow, this ****bag murdered innocent people trying to enjoy the Christmas market. I feel for their families right now.
Correct. I’d stayed away from this thread and twitter posts about it until now because it seems too many people’s main concern is the political implications :(
Hibrandenburg
21-12-2024, 07:13 PM
Correct. I’d stayed away from this thread and twitter posts about it until now because it seems too many people’s main concern is the political implications :(
Damned right there are people concerned about the political implications, there's a general election looming, the result of which may effect the lives of millions of people and which will be hugely effected by the tragic events of yesterday.
jamie_1875
21-12-2024, 07:30 PM
Correct. I’d stayed away from this thread and twitter posts about it until now because it seems too many people’s main concern is the political implications :(
Owen Jones is almost taking pleasure in the terrorist being far right, he is enjoying it too much.
Itsnoteasy
21-12-2024, 07:34 PM
Possibly, but does that not defeat the purpose?
Yes I agree. The only way that would work would be a moveable barrier.
I was on Princes Street hogmanay when there was approximately 500000 there. Loads of casualties & the emergency vehicles had no chance of getting through. That was the last time it was a free for all for crowds at the street party.
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