Positives from Celtic game

[Donegal Hibby]

Thought the performance was good today against a quality side it has to be said , fourteen shots with nine on target even though we didn’t score is encouraging….thought Smith and Miller where excellent today for us too…

Keep up that level of performance and hopefully we will be ok .

[A Hi-Bee]

Thought the performance was good today against a quality side it has to be said , fourteen shots with nine on target even though we didn’t score is encouraging….thought Smith and Miller where excellent today for us too…

Keep up that level of performance and hopefully we will be ok .

If true that we learn more from our defeats than from wins, then how are we back bottom of the table.

[hibsbollah]

If true that we learn more from our defeats than from wins, then how are we back bottom of the table.

What is the actual point youre trying to make over multiple threads? We know the league positions. Todays performance sounds very promising and folk are getting encouraged by that.

[He's here!]

Thought the performance was good today against a quality side it has to be said , fourteen shots with nine on target even though we didn’t score is encouraging….thought Smith and Miller where excellent today for us too…

Keep up that level of performance and hopefully we will be ok .

Nine shots on target but no goals is indicative of a lack quality rather than encouraging.

Today was pretty much a guaranteed heavy defeat but we're in serious bother nonetheless.

[Donegal Hibby]

If true that we learn more from our defeats than from wins, then how are we back bottom of the table.

Why did you not think that was the most likely outcome today?:confused:

[007]

If true that we learn more from our defeats than from wins, then how are we back bottom of the table.

Maybe put that question to someone who said we learn more from our defeats.

[eastmainsmsh]

Didn't expect to get a result but hopefully we win next week

[Wheat Hound]

Goalie was good. Not said that for a while!

[DinkyTwo]

I didn't watch the game but sounds like we played well and created several clear cut chances.

I just wanted to hear of a good performance today to back up the past couple of games. Happy with Gray getting until the end of the year and we can take it from there. It's been an awful season so far, but a win next week and some results going our way will put us up to 8th.

I'm encouraged, but this Hibs team and SDG have a lot of prove.

Onto the next one.

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[He's here!]

Didn't expect to get a result but hopefully we win next week

Vital we win next week.

[Northernhibee]

Goalie situation sorted until we can get a better challenger for the gloves in January. Good performance, just lacking in overall quality. Gray got the tactics right. Against any other team in the league we likey leave with something from today.

[He's here!]

Goalie situation sorted until we can get a better challenger for the gloves in January. Good performance, just lacking in overall quality. Gray got the tactics right. Against any other team in the league we likey leave with something from today.

Someone mentioned it pre-match but if you concede within the first few minutes at Celtic the game's as good as over. The fact we did actually create some chances makes that all the more frustrating but as you say it comes down to a lack of quality.

[HarpOnHibee]

Positives would be tucking away chances and not switching off during key moments. Everything that occurs in between is ultimately irrelevant to where we are or where we will be by the end of the season. Only those two things really matter.

[flash]

Positives would be tucking away chances and not switching off during key moments. Everything that occurs in between is ultimately irrelevant to where we are or where we will be by the end of the season. Only those two things really matter.

Take a day off ffs. Anyone who didn't see anything positive today, as well as negatives, is either a moron or a liar.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nine shots on target but no goals is indicative of a lack quality rather than encouraging.

Today was pretty much a guaranteed heavy defeat but we're in serious bother nonetheless.

Celtic at home very often restrict teams from having shots like Killie had 5/2 , Dundee 3/1 , Ross County 2/1 , hertz 7/3 , sevco 12/3 …

Today we had far more and we might have lacked being clinical though considering the quality of the opposition and the fact their keeper got MotM plus the fact we have scored six in our previous two games I think our performance today and in the last two games are grounds to be a bit optimistic ....

[InvertedFullBak]

Our goalie was our best player today so that’s all you need to know.

we missed a few sitters but Celtic were never in any danger overall.

[TrinityHFC]

Our goalie was our best player today so that’s all you need to know.

we missed a few sitters but Celtic were never in any danger overall.

Their keeper was man of match so no, it doesn’t really tell me all I need to know.

[Alfred E Newman]

If true that we learn more from our defeats than from wins, then how are we back bottom of the table.

It’s just our luck that the fixtures gave us Celtic away today making it highly unlikely we were going to capitalise on last weeks good result.

[Iain G]

The BBC were more positive about Hibs today than a number of our actual supporters and this just plain odd 😳

[HarpOnHibee]

Take a day off ffs. Anyone who didn't see anything positive today, as well as negatives, is either a moron or a liar.

Regardless of what you consider the positives to be, it's the negatives that ultimately influenced the result. We need to change the negatives into positives or results like this will become a common theme. We have to be putting away chances regardless of who the opposition are and we can't afford to switch off, regardless of who the opposition are.

[InvertedFullBak]

Their keeper was man of match so no, it doesn’t really tell me all I need to know.

I found that astonishing considering they won 3-0 being honest. Perhaps the sponsors hadn’t met him yet. Smith made 5/6 saves and picked the ball out the net three times so I’d say that tells you enough about the game.

[LaMotta]

Best performance at Celtic Park for some time, 14 shots at goal, nine on target.

Smith looking like a keeper that could save us points rather than drop us points.

Miller putting in a really good performance (which he seems to do frequently against Celtic).

Nicky Cadden continuing to look like a really good signing.

[Tambo]

A decent first half performance, Myko should be putting the first chance away and will be disappointed with the second chance, Newell also should be hitting the target.

Some saves from Smith is also encouraging and we did play well in some spells, something to work on for next week.

[whiskyhibby]

Our goalie was our best player today so that’s all you need to know.

we missed a few sitters but Celtic were never in any danger overall.
🤣🤣

[whiskyhibby]

If true that we learn more from our defeats than from wins, then how are we back bottom of the table.

:troll::troll:

[Baldy Foghorn]

:troll::troll:

Thought we played well and should have come away with something. They were clinical, we weren't. Didnt deserve 3-0

[B.H.F.C]

It’s positive that we created chances.

Negative in that we missed a number of easy ones. And our defending was terrible. Real basic mistakes at either end.

A normal day for us, really.

[theonlywayisup]

Thought the performance was good today against a quality side it has to be said , fourteen shots with nine on target even though we didn’t score is encouraging….thought Smith and Miller where excellent today for us too…

Keep up that level of performance and hopefully we will be ok .

That's the best we've played at Celtic Park for a long long time. Positive signs for the upcoming games.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Best performance at Celtic Park for some time, 14 shots at goal, nine on target.

Smith looking like a keeper that could save us points rather than drop us points.

Miller putting in a really good performance (which he seems to do frequently against Celtic).

Nicky Cadden continuing to look like a really good signing.

They're goalie won't make that many saves in any other games. We tested them no doubt

[LaMotta]

They're goalie won't make that many saves in any other games. We tested them no doubt
:agree:

[babahibs]

Their goalie got man of the match, tells you something, shirley.

[matty_f]

I thought we were pretty good, to be honest.

Failed to take the chances were created and got punished for the few lapses at the back that we had, and in the end Celtic’s quality was the difference.

You would have to take some encouragement from it, though - I think we gave them a bigger game than Aberdeen did in the 2-2 there earlier in the season. Certainly created more.

[Real Emerald]

We need to take as many positives as we can TBH. No one is likely to get anything from there unless everything possible goes in their favour and today even though we played well, created chances and our keeper made some great saves, we still got beat 3 zilch. Our players made mistakes today but so did many Celtic players, finishing let us down as goals definitely change games,

We simply have no option other than embrace the positives, take the expected defeat on the chin and make sure we batter Ross County next week, that’s our bread and butter at the moment.

[hibsbollah]

It’s positive that we created chances.

Negative in that we missed a number of easy ones. And our defending was terrible. Real basic mistakes at either end.

A normal day for us, really.

Except we were playing a team with something like twenty times our buying power.
Some ludicrously miserable takes on here. If you cant take losing regularly to celtc you should give up on Scottish football.

[WestCoastHibby]

I watched the game on the Celtic channel today and have to say Peter Grant and whoever the co presenter was were very complimentary
Basically there are loads of positives to take from today.
Our keeper looked to have found some confidence and we’ve had more chances at Celtic park than we’ve had for a long time.
Yes poor finishing but it was never a backs to the wall everyone behind the ball type game.
Just hope the team continues in this vein against Ross County

[InvertedFullBak]

Except we were playing a team with something like twenty times our buying power.
Some ludicrously miserable takes on here. If you cant take losing regularly to celtc you should give up on Scottish football.

Losing to Celtic or any side regularly isn’t the issue but the way we do lose is the issue. Again today like most of the season it’s crap finishing and crap defending that’ve cost us.

is it too much for players to do the basics properly like tracking runners , finishing from roughly 6 yards out ?.

[HarpOnHibee]

Except we were playing a team with something like twenty times our buying power.
Some ludicrously miserable takes on here. If you cant take losing regularly to celtc you should give up on Scottish football.

Celtic were far away from being their best today. Defensively they looked unsettled and that allowed us to get in behind them on several occasions. It's a game we should have done better in, despite it being against Celtic. The goals we conceded were also quite poor. It wasn't down to Celtic doing anything magnificent, just us switching off during key moments.

It's a good thing it was against Celtic, because had that been against anybody else in the league, people would be going radge on here for the missed opportunities and the soft goals.

[Murphys Touch]

If going to Parkhead is a “free hit” then it should also be treated the same after an ok performance. Best we played there in years and still a 3-0 scoreline

It’s the next run of games that DG is back up against the ropes for

[Donegal Hibby]

Losing to Celtic or any side regularly isn’t the issue but the way we do lose is the issue. Again today like most of the season it’s crap finishing and crap defending that’ve cost us.

is it too much for players to do the basics properly like tracking runners , finishing from roughly 6 yards out ?.

We went into this game with four points from six having scored six goals , Celtic aren’t just like any other side , surely folk on here realise the magnitude of the task we faced today?…

I’m sure Aberdeen did when they got pumped 6-0 in the cup or Bratislava when they did 5-1 too . I think a wee bit of perspective is needed unless there’s some that think like McKinley that we should be challenging them for the
league 😆….

It’s not to often you see them giving their keeper the MotM award which is testament to how we played today … once again I’m surprised at the pile on in negativity in what was a good performance against a team on a totally different planet from the rest of us in the league.

[Bridge hibs]

Nine shots on target but no goals is indicative of a lack quality rather than encouraging.

Today was pretty much a guaranteed heavy defeat but we're in serious bother nonetheless.More encouraging to the point we are now creating chances whereas earlier in the season we barely mustered a shot, crumbs of comfort at least

[Keith_M]

One positive (for me. at least):

There was no drum in the Hibs end today.

[B.H.F.C]

Except we were playing a team with something like twenty times our buying power.
Some ludicrously miserable takes on here. If you cant take losing regularly to celtc you should give up on Scottish football.

Where did I say I couldn’t take losing to Celtic?

The chances we missed were nothing to do with their budget being bigger than ours. Some of the mistakes we made defensively were on us, not because of their budget.

Your reply to my post is lazy and stupid IMO. Just because it’s Celtic with a big budget, it doesn’t excuse certain things.

[SlickShoes]

It was never backs against the wall because we conceded within 5 minutes, then scored an OG early in the second half, we missed chance after chance resulting in Celtic barely being under any real danger despite the stats showing we had lots of shots on target

[Springbank]

I've been very critical of the whole coaching staff for the atrocious football for much of this season but 100% not today

We created more gilt edged chances today than celtic have faced all season combined

Newells was an embarrassing effort, kukharevych has to score[twice], but the key thing for me was these chances were created through good football & a game plan

Fair play to sdg & Co

Encouraging performance

[kentao]

The result was as expected, there's a reason why they are top of the league with a +40 goal difference and only conceding FOUR goals in 15 games. They are a very good team and we done well to create so many chances but unfortunately we don't have a decent striker who can take advantage. If we continue to create as many chances against the other teams in the league we will have nothing to worry about.

[K-Zazu]

We went into this game with four points from six having scored six goals , Celtic aren’t just like any other side , surely folk on here realise the magnitude of the task we faced today?…

I’m sure Aberdeen did when they got pumped 6-0 in the cup or Bratislava when they did 5-1 too . I think a wee bit of perspective is needed unless there’s some that think like McKinley that we should be challenging them for the
league 😆….

It’s not to often you see them giving their keeper the MotM award which is testament to how we played today … once again I’m surprised at the pile on in negativity in what was a good performance against a team on a totally different planet from the rest of us in the league.

It’s probably because we are bottom of the league and we’ve won 2 out of 16 games why people are going to be negative about getting beat again.. Myko was a Gray signing and he sold the jerseys today big time for me.. yes we played very well but we didn’t score any goals and didn’t get any points.

[Docker]

Except we were playing a team with something like twenty times our buying power.
Some ludicrously miserable takes on here. If you cant take losing regularly to celtc you should give up on Scottish football.

With your logic, we should comfortably beat County next week.
Let’s hope “buying power” wins!!!!

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

I wasn’t at the game today but heard we actually played alright. Seen a few sellick “fans” gloating on social media about the result, laughable to be honest. Well done for beating Hibs lads, much did that cost yous in wages? Or does the budget gap argument only apply when yous get sodomised in Europe? Weird folk


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[Bridge hibs]

With your logic, we should comfortably beat County next week.
Let’s hope “buying power” wins!!!!

Why not ? Or lets be ****ing boring negative farts and expect defeat

Hibs fans eh ?

[Donegal Hibby]

It’s probably because we are bottom of the league and we’ve won 2 out of 16 games why people are going to be negative about getting beat again.. Myko was a Gray signing and he sold the jerseys today big time for me.. yes we played very well but we didn’t score any goals and didn’t get any points.

I can understand why people are being negative to a certain extent though even when there’s signs of improvement, good play , players playing better or just making a contribution to the team there’s still wave after wave of negativity on here . that I don’t understand…

I look at it in we played well against Aberdeen and showed great character and spirit to keep going in getting a point which I think give the team a lift , after that we played Motherwell away and put in what was a excellent performance winning by 3-0 . Four points from six I think was pretty good and we had a bit of momentum….

Unfortunately in facing Celtic at Parkhead it was always going to be like mission impossible and I was fearful they’d do what they did to Aberdeen or Ross County in totally hammering us too . They didn’t though and we played very well , creating loads of chances with their keeper MotM which I doubt rarely happens …

If we can carry on playing like we have been recently against Ross County I think we have every chance of winning the game …

I’m never happy when we lose though I did think our performance at Parkhead today was as good as I’ve seen in a long time there.. last thing I’d like to add is what I’ve seen in recent weeks is a Hibs team with togetherness that’s fighting for the manager which again i see as another positive .

GGTTH .

[JimBHibees]

Why not ? Or lets be ****ing boring negative farts and expect defeat

Hibs fans eh ?

Not so sure all are.

[Ringothedog]

One positive (for me. at least):

There was no drum in the Hibs end today.

Another game were our so called ultras didn’t turn up.

[danhibees1875]

If true that we learn more from our defeats than from wins, then how are we back bottom of the table.

Funnily enough, the MoTD commentator just referenced this to the Man United manager. It's a saying I was aware of but never really heard it used... twice in one day!

[Baldy Foghorn]

Another game were our so called ultras didn’t turn up.

And there was plenty of singing Today, who needs a drum:aok:

[ekhibee]

I can understand why people are being negative to a certain extent though even when there’s signs of improvement, good play , players playing better or just making a contribution to the team there’s still wave after wave of negativity on here . that I don’t understand…

I look at it in we played well against Aberdeen and showed great character and spirit to keep going in getting a point which I think give the team a lift , after that we played Motherwell away and put in what was a excellent performance winning by 3-0 . Four points from six I think was pretty good and we had a bit of momentum….

Unfortunately in facing Celtic at Parkhead it was always going to be like mission impossible and I was fearful they’d do what they did to Aberdeen or Ross County in totally hammering us too . They didn’t though and we played very well , creating loads of chances with their keeper MotM which I doubt rarely happens …

If we can carry on playing like we have been recently against Ross County I think we have every chance of winning the game …

I’m never happy when we lose though I did think our performance at Parkhead today was as good as I’ve seen in a long time there.. last thing I’d like to add is what I’ve seen in recent weeks is a Hibs team with togetherness that’s fighting for the manager which again i see as another positive .

GGTTH .

That's the 2nd time you've mentioned them pumping Aberdeen in the cup, maybe you forgot that 3 weeks before that Aberdeen drew with them at Parkhead? Celtic are the best team in the league, we all know that, we still should've put at least 3 past them today regardless of how good they are. On saying that I totally get what you're implying about how it just isn't a level playing field.

[hibsbollah]

With your logic, we should comfortably beat County next week.
Let’s hope “buying power” wins!!!!

I think we will beat Ross County. Its not guaranteed, but its the outcome that seems most likely.

But they are much closer to our budget than we are to Celtics. I don’t believe we’re even having to have this conversation, surely this is just common knowledge.

[hibsbollah]

Where did I say I couldn’t take losing to Celtic?

The chances we missed were nothing to do with their budget being bigger than ours. Some of the mistakes we made defensively were on us, not because of their budget.

Your reply to my post is lazy and stupid IMO. Just because it’s Celtic with a big budget, it doesn’t excuse certain things.

What ‘certain things’ are you referring to? Rocky or whichever dude was supposed to be marking that area? I love Rocky but he’s not on the same class as Carter Vickers or whoever Celtic have to call on in that position.Missing easy chances twice? Thats because we dont have the ability to buy strikers that can take those chances with regularlity. Gayle or Youan might have scored that, yeah, because theyre better players than Myko, but that doesn’t chsnge the fact that ALL Celtic players are better than all of our players by a substantial distance now. And to beat them we will have to have both a perfect performance, a tonne of luck and for them to have an offday. Its about available talent.

Not recognising that is whats lazy and stupid.

[Lago]

What ‘certain things’ are you referring to? Rocky or whichever dude was supposed to be marking that area? I love Rocky but he’s not on the same class as Carter Vickers or whoever Celtic have to call on in that position.Missing easy chances twice? Thats because we dont have the ability to buy strikers that can take those chances with regularlity. Gayle or Youan might have scored that, yeah, because theyre better players than Myko, but that doesn’t chsnge the fact that ALL Celtic players are better than all of our players by a substantial distance now. And to beat them we will have to have both a perfect performance, a tonne of luck and for them to have an offday. Its about available talent.

Not recognising that is whats lazy and stupid.
It would also help if we had a striker who could score goals.

[Carheenlea]

While we’ll always usually carve out the odd chance, they’re rarely as gilt edged as those that we missed today.

To have as many good chances is encouraging but missing them is a big negative, particularly after scoring 6 in our last two outings. Hopefully we can continue creating and get back among the goals on Saturday.

[B.H.F.C]

What ‘certain things’ are you referring to? Rocky or whichever dude was supposed to be marking that area? I love Rocky but he’s not on the same class as Carter Vickers or whoever Celtic have to call on in that position.Missing easy chances twice? Thats because we dont have the ability to buy strikers that can take those chances with regularlity. Gayle or Youan might have scored that, yeah, because theyre better players than Myko, but that doesn’t chsnge the fact that ALL Celtic players are better than all of our players by a substantial distance now. And to beat them we will have to have both a perfect performance, a tonne of luck and for them to have an offday. Its about available talent.

Not recognising that is whats lazy and stupid.

Think you’re being deliberately obtuse.

Luck is nothing to do with it. Comes down to quality. Myko wasn’t unlucky. He lacked quality.

[Donegal Hibby]

That's the 2nd time you've mentioned them pumping Aberdeen in the cup, maybe you forgot that 3 weeks before that Aberdeen drew with them at Parkhead? Celtic are the best team in the league, we all know that, we still should've put at least 3 past them today regardless of how good they are. On saying that I totally get what you're implying about how it just isn't a level playing field.

Yeah I know Aberdeen drew with them 2-2 which was a fantastic result though they are rare and it’s far more likely that they will give you a doing… I agree we should have scored a few today though even saying that I think shows we are doing something right under Gray .

[Donegal Hibby]

It would also help if we had a striker who could score goals.

I think we have one but he got injured buddy.

[hibsbollah]

Think you’re being deliberately obtuse.

Luck is nothing to do with it. Comes down to quality. Myko wasn’t unlucky. He lacked quality.

Way to spectacularly miss the point I was making, and weirdly also managing to make it for me. I agree. Its about quality. It costs and we can’t compete with that lot.

[Phil MaGlass]

Positive, Smichael getting motm tells you what you need to know about Hibs, were getting better.

[Keith_M]

And there was plenty of singing Today, who needs a drum:aok:


It was quite quiet at first but the atmosphere really picked up, especially in the 2nd half.

[Spike Mandela]

Failure to take really good chances is not a positive. It is a consistent flaw in our team.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The number one positive to take from any trip to Celtic Park is the reminder that I'm Hibs and didn't take the easy option of choosing Celtic. I'm grateful for that every day.

As for the game, thought we did ok. Would rather lose like that than play with 11 men in defence (and still lose).

[SON OF PADDY]

Take a day off ffs. Anyone who didn't see anything positive today, as well as negatives, is either a moron or a liar.


Once again, you've nailed it Flash! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[SON OF PADDY]

I can understand why people are being negative to a certain extent though even when there’s signs of improvement, good play , players playing better or just making a contribution to the team there’s still wave after wave of negativity on here . that I don’t understand…

I look at it in we played well against Aberdeen and showed great character and spirit to keep going in getting a point which I think give the team a lift , after that we played Motherwell away and put in what was a excellent performance winning by 3-0 . Four points from six I think was pretty good and we had a bit of momentum….

Unfortunately in facing Celtic at Parkhead it was always going to be like mission impossible and I was fearful they’d do what they did to Aberdeen or Ross County in totally hammering us too . They didn’t though and we played very well , creating loads of chances with their keeper MotM which I doubt rarely happens …

If we can carry on playing like we have been recently against Ross County I think we have every chance of winning the game …

I’m never happy when we lose though I did think our performance at Parkhead today was as good as I’ve seen in a long time there.. last thing I’d like to add is what I’ve seen in recent weeks is a Hibs team with togetherness that’s fighting for the manager which again i see as another positive .

GGTTH .



Excellent post mate.

[bordergreen]

I can understand why people are being negative to a certain extent though even when there’s signs of improvement, good play , players playing better or just making a contribution to the team there’s still wave after wave of negativity on here . that I don’t understand…

I look at it in we played well against Aberdeen and showed great character and spirit to keep going in getting a point which I think give the team a lift , after that we played Motherwell away and put in what was a excellent performance winning by 3-0 . Four points from six I think was pretty good and we had a bit of momentum….

Unfortunately in facing Celtic at Parkhead it was always going to be like mission impossible and I was fearful they’d do what they did to Aberdeen or Ross County in totally hammering us too . They didn’t though and we played very well , creating loads of chances with their keeper MotM which I doubt rarely happens …

If we can carry on playing like we have been recently against Ross County I think we have every chance of winning the game …

I’m never happy when we lose though I did think our performance at Parkhead today was as good as I’ve seen in a long time there.. last thing I’d like to add is what I’ve seen in recent weeks is a Hibs team with togetherness that’s fighting for the manager which again i see as another positive .

GGTTH .

Yes. Exactly what I am seeing. Hope we are right 🤞

[Keith_M]

Another game were our so called ultras didn’t turn up.


Were they barred from the game yesterday?

There was a small group of young guys near me all dressed in black and did the "Kensell GTF" chant a few times. I was wondering if they were part of the 'Ultras' and the rest had been denied entry or something.

No idea myself, obviously just speculation on my part.

[Joe6-2]

Bissouma must have a bet on Chelsea

[cabbageandribs1875]

Bissouma must have a bet on Chelsea


wrong thread ? :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

Were they barred from the game yesterday?

There was a small group of young guys near me all dressed in black and did the "Kensell GTF" chant a few times. I was wondering if they were part of the 'Ultras' and the rest had been denied entry or something.

No idea myself, obviously just speculation on my part.

They weren't barred, they made a stand against ticket pricing

[Keith_M]

wrong thread ? :greengrin



:faf:

[Keith_M]

They weren't barred, they made a stand of ticket pricing



Cheers mate, I honestly had no idea either way and was just curious. :aok:

[007]

Failure to take really good chances is not a positive. It is a consistent flaw in our team.

Did somebody say it is a positive?

[Joe6-2]

wrong thread ? :greengrin

Oops

[Lago]

I think we have one but he got injured buddy.
And his stand in couldn't hit a barn door.

[JohnM1875]

And his stand in couldn't hit a barn door.

Can't believe how bad Myko has been. Remember thinking he was good last time, just injured a lot. This time he's been fully fit but abysmal.

I was buzzing when we signed him again this summer as well.

[Yorkshire HFC]

We're bottom of the league - I think the only thing that matters from now on is how many points we get from games.

I can't be positive about a defence that loses 3 goals or strikers that keep missing chances.

[Cooshed Kid]

I thought it was a performance to be proud of, particularly when we went a goal down. Finishing was really poor and let us down badly but the guys kept plugging away regardless and the build-up to Joe Newell’s miss was sublime.

It was a big-hearted performance.

Smith had a good game in goals, I’m happy to say, but I think we still need a new keeper in January. We clearly need a better striker than Myko. He scored a wonder goal against Celtic at the start of the campaign and I thought I had misjudged him the previous time and that he might actually turn out to be a gem. But JDH scored 2 wonder goals, both in the same match, and that doesn’t qualify him as a striker either. Myko will not suffice.

[WhileTheChief..]

We're bottom of the league - I think the only thing that matters from now on is how many points we get from games.

I can't be positive about a defence that loses 3 goals or strikers that keep missing chances.

Yup. Trying to find positives when we’ve been humped 3-0 is pointless.

Probably have a similar thread in May saying “if we play like this we’ll come straight back up”!

[Cooshed Kid]

Yup. Trying to find positives when we’ve been humped 3-0 is pointless.


Isn’t a disappointing result the only time we need to try to find positives? They’re generally pretty obvious when we win.

[Smartie]

Yup. Trying to find positives when we’ve been humped 3-0 is pointless.

Probably have a similar thread in May saying “if we play like this we’ll come straight back up”!

It really isn’t.

When you’re trying to improve - even when there’s an awful lot that requires improvement - it is worth acknowledging what is going well and we need more of.

One glance at the table would tell you all isn’t great but being overly dramatic isn’t going to help us get out of the mess we’re in.

[Donegal Hibby]

We are talking about a team here levels above our own or any other team in the league that’s put 6 past Aberdeen , St Johnstone and 5 against Ross County ..

They beat RB Leipzig there who had less shots than us and yet folk can’t see the positives from the game :confused:

I do wonder is it that they don’t understand the magnitude of the task we or any other team face going there now or does it just suit them because they want the manager out which is why the knifes are out! .

On our manager if we had appointed a new one and he’d got a draw against Aberdeen , win away to Motherwell and put in a performance like we did at Celtic I think it’s highly likely folk that’s being negative would be saying we’ve turned a corner …

Chances of a new manager going to parkhead with us and getting a positive result would probably be slim to none anyhow …

Last three games I think we have played some good football and I’m firmly believe Gray should be given more time .

[WhileTheChief..]

It really isn’t.

When you’re trying to improve - even when there’s an awful lot that requires improvement - it is worth acknowledging what is going well and we need more of.

One glance at the table would tell you all isn’t great but being overly dramatic isn’t going to help us get out of the mess we’re in.

I’ve not seen anyone being overly dramatic about anything. I certainly have n’t been.

What I do see is a lot of folk clutching at straws every week.

“If we win the next 3”
“We’re not far away from being decent”
“We can still qualify for Europe”

If anything, these are the overly dramatic posts that go totally against what most of us can see and the league table points to.

We need to focus on where we are going wrong and do everything we can to fix it.

To keep doing what we’re doing and saying the results will come is the equivalent of burying your head in the sand.

Coming on here and posting positive thoughts on every thread every day ain’t gonna change a thing.

[B.H.F.C]

We are talking about a team here levels above our own or any other team in the league that’s put 6 past Aberdeen , St Johnstone and 5 against Ross County ..

They beat RB Leipzig there who had less shots than us and yet folk can’t see the positives from the game :confused:

I do wonder is it that they don’t understand the magnitude of the task we or any other team face going there now or does it just suit them because they want the manager out which is why the knifes are out! .

On our manager if we had appointed a new one and he’d got a draw against Aberdeen , win away to Motherwell and put in a performance like we did at Celtic I think it’s highly likely folk that’s being negative would be saying we’ve turned a corner …

Chances of a new manager going to parkhead with us and getting a positive result would probably be slim to none anyhow …

Last three games I think we have played some good football and I’m firmly believe Gray should be given more time .

If you just judge on what you saw in the game on Saturday then it’s hard not to criticise IMO. Celtic, for all the advantages they have, were miles below their maximum. The chances we missed, I get chances can be missed, but to miss 3 chances like we did in the first half at Parkhead, you deserve what you get in the end for that. Couple that with the defending for the three goals. First couple were so basic, it wasn’t the product of a great team pulling you apart. The third was immaterial and they punish you but, again, it was a dreadful mistake from Triantis.

What doesn’t help Gray on Saturday is that three of the main culprits in the big defining moments were his guys in Myko, Newell and Triantis.

We need wins, not to see progress in performances. That was actually our heaviest defeat to them this season despite the improved performance.

[TrinityHFC]

I’ve not seen anyone being overly dramatic about anything. I certainly have n’t been.

What I do see is a lot of folk clutching at straws every week.

“If we win the next 3”
“We’re not far away from being decent”
“We can still qualify for Europe”

If anything, these are the overly dramatic posts that go totally against what most of us can see and the league table points to.

We need to focus on where we are going wrong and do everything we can to fix it.

To keep doing what we’re doing and saying the results will come is the equivalent of burying your head in the sand.

Coming on here and posting positive thoughts on every thread every day ain’t gonna change a thing.
What a waste of a lot of words.

It is a thread about whether there were any positives to take from the game.

It is a pretty obvious thing that when looking to improve results and performances you are looking for things that indicate some better things are possible.

Quite the opposite of just keeping doing what you are doing. How would you know if anything had changed if you are going to look for or acknowledge it.

To your last point, support and positivity has more chance of helping to improve things than negativity. I think the team reacted really well to the positive environment v Aberdeen when I think a lot of the critical fans stayed away.

[WhileTheChief..]

What a waste of a lot of words.

It is a thread about whether there were any positives to take from the game.

It is a pretty obvious thing that when looking to improve results and performances you are looking for things that indicate some better things are possible.

Quite the opposite of just keeping doing what you are doing. How would you know if anything had changed if you are going to look for or acknowledge it.

To your last point, support and positivity has more chance of helping to improve things than negativity. I think the team reacted really well to the positive environment v Aberdeen when I think a lot of the critical fans stayed away.

No need for your first sentence there, I’m only chewing the fat ffs.

I’m all for support and positivity at ER but don’t see the point in it on here if it’s not what you think. I call things as I see them.

[Baldy Foghorn]

No need for your first sentence there, I’m only chewing the fat ffs.

I’m all for support and positivity at ER but don’t see the point in it on here if it’s not what you think. I call things as I see them.

I think you're being a little harsh WTC. Yes we lost at Celtc, but 3 goals were avoidable and we missed some sitters.

I felt that was the best we've played there in a long time, and whilst result was disappointing, it was really down to ourselves ahooting ourselves in foot.

I came away positive knowing we gave them a game, and if we can perform like that weekly, hopefully we will garner more points than we lose

[WhileTheChief..]

I think you're being a little harsh WTC. Yes we lost at Celtc, but 3 goals were avoidable and we missed some sitters.

I felt that was the best we've played there in a long time, and whilst result was disappointing, it was really down to ourselves ahooting ourselves in foot.

I came away positive knowing we gave them a game, and if we can perform like that weekly, hopefully we will garner more points than we lose

I don't disagree, but how many times are we going to repeat your last line? We read it here constantly but nothing changes.

As for 'shooting ourselves in the foot'. Does it really matter how we lost when we do it almost every week? That won't help us if we stay bottom. A defeat is a defeat and that's really all that matters when we're in our position.

We have one semi-decent performance where we don't pick up points and folk are saying we're on the right path.

It was the same with the Aberdeen game, folk claiming we'd turned a corner.

We can maybe say that once we've picked up 12 from 15 points or similar, not after a draw and a defeat!!

[Donegal Hibby]

If you just judge on what you saw in the game on Saturday then it’s hard not to criticise IMO. Celtic, for all the advantages they have, were miles below their maximum. The chances we missed, I get chances can be missed, but to miss 3 chances like we did in the first half at Parkhead, you deserve what you get in the end for that. Couple that with the defending for the three goals. First couple were so basic, it wasn’t the product of a great team pulling you apart. The third was immaterial and they punish you but, again, it was a dreadful mistake from Triantis.

What doesn’t help Gray on Saturday is that three of the main culprits in the big defining moments were his guys in Myko, Newell and Triantis.

We need wins, not to see progress in performances. That was actually our heaviest defeat to them this season despite the improved performance.

I honestly think the level Celtic are at now they don’t need to get out of 2nd or 3rd gear to beat any of the rest of us , even there entire bench would probably be first team picks at clubs like ourselves, Aberdeen hertz now which is sadly another example of the gulf that now exists in our league.

We did have some good chances which we should probably have scored but Schmeichel was also outstanding which is why he got MotM and is something that rarely happens as their goalkeeper usually has very little to do ..

I actually thought Newell has been pretty good recently, Triantis against Motherwell too and Myko got a goal , playing Celtic now is a bit like a bantamweight fighter going into the ring with a heavyweight one .. hard to really make a fair assessment as one is so much stronger than the other .

We do need wins and quickly though if we keep playing like we have been recently I think there’s every chance we’ll get them TBH.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I don't disagree, but how many times are we going to repeat your last line? We read it here constantly but nothing changes.

As for 'shooting ourselves in the foot'. Does it really matter how we lost when we do it almost every week? That won't help us if we stay bottom. A defeat is a defeat and that's really all that matters when we're in our position.

We have one semi-decent performance where we don't pick up points and folk are saying we're on the right path.

It was the same with the Aberdeen game, folk claiming we'd turned a corner.

We can maybe say that once we've picked up 12 from 15 points or similar, not after a draw and a defeat!!

Fair enough, I think if we don't get 3 points this Saturday, my panic will set in:aok:

[lyonhibs]

Judging by the SPFL YouTube highlights, we didn't cross the halfway line until we were 2 down 🤔

[Spike Mandela]

Speaking to a Celtic fan today who said we were the best performing away team he’s seen at Celtic Park this season. He said we have the real makings of a team there.

Patronising maybe, little consolation but interesting to hear what others think about us.

[Donegal Hibby]

Speaking to a Celtic fan today who said we were the best performing away team he’s seen at Celtic Park this season. He said we have the real makings of a team there.

Patronising maybe, little consolation but interesting to hear what others think about us.

I was told much the same here by a couple of Celtic fans who thought we had a go at them when other teams tend to sit in and be more defensive .. poor finishing and their keeper being outstanding was the difference between us getting at least a couple of goals and if we keep playing like that we will be alright.

[matty_f]

I think you're being a little harsh WTC. Yes we lost at Celtc, but 3 goals were avoidable and we missed some sitters.

I felt that was the best we've played there in a long time, and whilst result was disappointing, it was really down to ourselves ahooting ourselves in foot.

I came away positive knowing we gave them a game, and if we can perform like that weekly, hopefully we will garner more points than we lose

:agree: spot on.