Thoughts on our game and do we change the team ?

[Donegal Hibby]

Been thinking on our game this weekend , normally one I dread as I’m always fearful of getting a doing from them . I suppose the other way to look on it , it’s basically a free hit as nobody expects us to get a result there anyhow .

I think when Dundee played them there they kept them from scoring for about sixty minutes playing 4-5-1 though do we change it for this one or stick with the same team again?

[Ribs1875]

I'd stick with the same defence and centre mid trio as the Motherwell game.

[gbhibby]

Show the video of their last European game and how the opposition pressed and broke at pace. You can't stand back and let them play. Press them from the front don't give Carter-Vickers any time on the ball. They will only hurt you if you let them. Campbell has the energy to press them high up the park.

[Donegal Hibby]

Show the video of their last European game and how the opposition pressed and broke at pace. You can't stand back and let them play. Press them from the front don't give Carter-Vickers any time on the ball. They will only hurt you if you let them. Campbell has the energy to press them high up the park.

I’m glad you brought up Campbell as I’d probably start him for precisely the reason you said here .

[Centre Hawf]

I don't think you change too much in all honesty, mostly because there's not a lot of options that make you feel good anyway. I would probably change Mykola for Gayle and Hoilett for Campbell but that's about it.

If we can just see a competitive performance I'll be happy, I'm not expecting anything but if we can somehow sneak a draw I would be delighted and it would keep our momentum moving.

[Donegal Hibby]

I don't think you change too much in all honesty, mostly because there's not a lot of options that make you feel good anyway. I would probably change Mykola for Gayle and Hoilett for Campbell but that's about it.

If we can just see a competitive performance I'll be happy, I'm not expecting anything but if we can somehow sneak a draw I would be delighted and it would keep our momentum moving.

Would Miller be a better option than C Cadden defensively?

[JimBHibees]

Wonder if Obita an option at left wing back while appreciating Cadden has been a standout maybe Obita might strengthen that defensively in an area Celtic are strong with Kuhn and Johnston

[Centre Hawf]

Would Miller be a better option than C Cadden defensively?

Potentially. He does tend to somehow do better in environments like that and his stats are better than Chris Caddens. I guess in regards to both Caddens you maybe ask yourself if you prefer to have them on from the start and carry an attacking threat for majority of the game or do you hold them in reserve?

[Vini1875]

A toss up for me in a number of positions Hoilett and Youan then Miller and C. Cadden and finally Newell and Triantis or Campbell. Our squad are really all at a similiar level, there are no real stand outs or automatic picks. I just hope they roll their sleeves up and show the determination that they have in the last two games. celtc are not invincible.

Smith
Obita, Iredale, Rocky, O'Hora, Miller
N.Cadden, Newell, Campbell
Myko, Hoilett

[Donegal Hibby]

Potentially. He does tend to somehow do better in environments like that and his stats are better than Chris Caddens. I guess in regards to both Caddens you maybe ask yourself if you prefer to have them on from the start and carry an attacking threat for majority of the game or do you hold them in reserve?

Think N Cadden has to start for me as he’s our best set piece taker , wither C Cadden starts ahead of Miller isn’t an easy one to decide on in fairness.

[gbhibby]

Think N Cadden has to start for me as he’s our best set piece taker , wither C Cadden starts ahead of Miller isn’t an easy one to decide on in fairness.

Miller sometimes gets into Maeda's head though.

[Unseen work]

I think Gray will play the 541 he moved to in the second half of the Motherwell game

………………………Smith……………

Miller….O’Hora….Rocky…Iredale….Obita….

Youan………Triantis…..Newell……Cadden…

………….………………Myk……..

[Jones28]

No changes if possible for me. The same team as much as possible with the right attitude and application.

[danhibees1875]

Probably came around at the worst possible time for us - it would have been good to have a few more winnable games whilst we seem to have some momentum.

I think you approach Celtic in one of 2 ways; you play the reserves and keep your XI fresh for more important games, or you play your usual system and practice it more.

There seems little to be gained in trying something new just to lose anyway. :dunno:

[HarpOnHibee]

............................Smith................. ..........
O'Hora.................Bushiri................Ired ale
................Miller................Triantis.... ........
C.Cadden............ Newell..............N.Cadden
......................Kukharevych................. ......
..........................Youan................... ..........

Can see us being under the cosh for huge spells of the game and our best chance to hurt Celtic will be on the break. I would sacrifice width to try and hit them hard down the middle instead. Kukharevych is a big lad and if Youan has his dribbling boots on, he could cause some havoc for the Celtic centre backs from any flick ons.

[California-Hibs]

Wonder if Obita an option at left wing back while appreciating Cadden has been a standout maybe Obita might strengthen that defensively in an area Celtic are strong with Kuhn and Johnston

Sooner people realize and accept that Jordan Obita is a poor footballer, the quicker we'll be to getting a much much better left back into the team on a consistent bases. High priority in January.

[Unseen work]

Sooner people realize and accept that Jordan Obita is a poor footballer, the quicker we'll be to getting a much much better left back into the team on a consistent bases. High priority in January.

Funny how opinions differ, to me left back is one of our lowest priorities for me

Goalkeeper
Striker
Creative/number 10 midfielder

Are our top 3 imo. After that I’d still consider right back, centre back, right wing ahead of left back

[blackpoolhibs]

Sooner people realize and accept that Jordan Obita is a poor footballer, the quicker we'll be to getting a much much better left back into the team on a consistent bases. High priority in January.
:agree: Both full backs whatever one you play on the right are poor, Obita the same. To be fair to them, whoever we play in front of them gives them no help.

The midfield is exactly the same as it was two games ago, and up front we are toothless.

Saturday makes no difference what team or formation we play, add in the chuckle brothers for keepers, and it's safe to say i think we are getting pumped.

[Iain G]

:agree: Both full backs whatever one you play on the right are poor, Obita the same. To be fair to them, whoever we play in front of them gives them no help.

The midfield is exactly the same as it was two games ago, and up front we are toothless.

Saturday makes no difference what team or formation we play, add in the chuckle brothers for keepers, and it's safe to say i think we are getting pumped.

We have scored 6 goals in two games, hardly toothless up front!

Where did all that positivity go 😁

Let's get stuck into this lot and have a go, it's a free hit

[Allant1981]

We have scored 6 goals in two games, hardly toothless up front!

Where did all that positivity go 😁

Let's get stuck into this lot and have a go, it's a free hit

Also scored more than hearts, killie, St Johnstone, ross county and Motherwell, scored the same amount as 3rd place the rangers as well, the other end is the issue

[Hibernian Verse]

Also scored more than hearts, killie, St Johnstone, ross county and Motherwell, scored the same amount as 3rd place the rangers as well, the other end is the issue

Don't bring facts into this!

[Hiber-nation]

Sooner people realize and accept that Jordan Obita is a poor footballer, the quicker we'll be to getting a much much better left back into the team on a consistent bases. High priority in January.

He's a very good footballer but lacking any consistency and can't be relied on. We're well covered on the left now, least of our worries. The right side is a far bigger concern.

[blackpoolhibs]

I really dont care about other toothless teams, and how many they have scored, its Hibs i want to win and score more goals.

18 goals from 15 games is awful, especially when we've let in 25.

[Allant1981]

I really dont care about other toothless teams, and how many they have scored, its Hibs i want to win and score more goals.

18 goals from 15 games is awful, especially when we've let in 25.

League stats will always be compared, it just highlights that while not the best going forward it's not the awful you suggest in league terms, 100% the defensive part of our team needs improved

[bingo70]

We need to bring in Obita and play 5 at the back, playing Nicky Cadden as a wing back would see us getting absolutely destroyed in the spaces between him and Iredale.

One of the reasons Gray got the job was his knowledge of Scottish football and how you need to alter the way you’re playing depending on the opposition. I think in his initial interview he mentioned not playing the same team at home to Ross County as you would Celtic away. There’s a good reason for that.

The only way we will get anything on Saturday is to go and park the bus, close the spaces and get men behind the ball. Try and go toe to toe with Celtic there’s only one winner and it could get messy. If it’s still tight going into the last half hour we can have a bit more of a go but the mindset going into the game should be how can we stop them scoring to give us a foundation to build on.

I’d play 5-4-1 with Youann, Newell, Triantis and Cadden in front of the 5 with Mike up front.

[blackpoolhibs]

League stats will always be compared, it just highlights that while not the best going forward it's not the awful you suggest in league terms, 100% the defensive part of our team needs improved

I had to look at the league table to see what other teams have done, it makes no difference to me, i dont watch them.

Hibs are toothless for me, averaging slightly over 1 goal a game is sheite, albeit slightly less sheite than a few of the others.

And that along with leaking goals is the two main reasons we are 2nd bottom of a sheite league.

[DanishJohn]

Been thinking on our game this weekend , normally one I dread as I’m always fearful of getting a doing from them . I suppose the other way to look on it , it’s basically a free hit as nobody expects us to get a result there anyhow .

I think when Dundee played them there they kept them from scoring for about sixty minutes playing 4-5-1 though do we change it for this one or stick with the same team again?

Agree with you regarding this fixture. Being of a certain age, I have witnessed a real few hammerings. Shipping six or five or four goals was not uncommon and in big games too.

Whilst you can try and get your tactics right or pick the best footballers or the strong men or speed machines it isn't always enough.
The mindset has to be correct. From top to bottom we have to believe we can win.

If the bus taking the official party through there is engulfed in kakorrhaphiophobia, then we are done for.

Celtic are not unbeatable..

[Tyler Durden]

I think Gray will play the 541 he moved to in the second half of the Motherwell game

………………………Smith……………

Miller….O’Hora….Rocky…Iredale….Obita….

Youan………Triantis…..Newell……Cadden…

………….………………Myk……..

That would be my team. One to rest Hoilett. And Chris Cadden has rarely performed well defensively against the OF.

[Saint Hibee]

Given our precarious position, I think goal difference is something we need to keep an eye on. There's a big difference between a 1-0 defeat and a 4-0 defeat, that's why I'd want us to be reasonably cautious whereas if we were top half I might be inclined to just go for it.

[andrew70]

Smith
Miller O’Hora Rocky Iredale N.Cadden
JDH Triantis Newell
Youan Myk

[500miles]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Campbell start to squeeze McCowan / McGregor in possession, probably at the cost of Hoilett.

[B.H.F.C]

I don’t think there will be many changes, personnel wise, but I think he will change the shape a bit. Last time at Parkhead he changed things at half time and basically went to a 541 (I think he did something similar at Motherwell even if I couldn’t quite figure it out at the time). When he had changed it at Parkhead, think Cadden came on for his debut, we’d got a foothold in the game and were looking OK until Bursik got involved. Think it might be along the lines of.

Smith

Miller
O’Hora
Rocky
Iredale
Obita

Youan
Newell
Triantis
N Cadden

Myko

Personally I don’t know what I’d do, very difficult to stop them however we set up.

[Blaster]

I don’t think there will be many changes, personnel wise, but I think he will change the shape a bit. Last time at Parkhead he changed things at half time and basically went to a 541 (I think he did something similar at Motherwell even if I couldn’t quite figure it out at the time). When he had changed it at Parkhead, think Cadden came on for his debut, we’d got a foothold in the game and were looking OK until Bursik got involved. Think it might be along the lines of.

Smith

Miller
O’Hora
Rocky
Iredale
Obita

Youan
Newell
Triantis
N Cadden

Myko

Personally I don’t know what I’d do, very difficult to stop them however we set up.

Quite like that. I’d maybe put Boyle on the right and Youan up top instead of Myko

Tricky one for Gray.

If you play the same team and get beat, folk will say shouldn’t have played the same team against Celtic

If he makes changes and get beat, folk will say should have kept the same team

Real fact is we’ll probably get beat whatever he does. Hopefully I’m wrong