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lucky
26-11-2024, 11:54 PM
How embarrassing is Samson? He shouts drivel the whole game. At one point Samson our GK coach was giving instructions to our CF. Surely Gray should tell him to sit on his arse and concentrate on getting at least one of our goalies to actually act like one. Hibs are the only team I’ve seen this season have 4 coaches shout instructions to the players during a game. Our club is a mess but Samson is ridiculous

cameronw-hfc
27-11-2024, 12:02 AM
Not sure what the fuss is about, it was stated when he signed that despite going down as a goalkeeping coach he was more of an assistant. If he's got more to do than just GK coaching, why shouldn't he be allowed to shout instructions onto the park? Not sure what his position in his playing days has to do with anything either, do we ask former defenders that become coaches to exclusively only coach defenders? Does Nuno only work with keepers at clubs he's manager of? Jose Mourinho didn't even play at professional level yet one of the best managers ever.

Not comparing anyone at hibs to their ability, just don't understand why a former goalie should only ever give instructions to goalies.

California-Hibs
27-11-2024, 04:56 AM
Have read a worrying amount of posts about this guy and how much of an utter clown he is. Aberdeen fans said much of the same, shouts an obscene amount during a game and bits that have been picked up on are absolute drivel. Can't believe we've ended up with him at Hibs.

dunfyhibby
27-11-2024, 05:06 AM
Not sure what the fuss is about, it was stated when he signed that despite going down as a goalkeeping coach he was more of an assistant. If he's got more to do than just GK coaching, why shouldn't he be allowed to shout instructions onto the park? Not sure what his position in his playing days has to do with anything either, do we ask former defenders that become coaches to exclusively only coach defenders? Does Nuno only work with keepers at clubs he's manager of? Jose Mourinho didn't even play at professional level yet one of the best managers ever.

Not comparing anyone at hibs to their ability, just don't understand why a former goalie should only ever give instructions to goalies.

Don't give a **** about him shouting at CF's, CH's or anybody else for that matter, but he's employed as a goalkeeper coach and he's obviously completely useless at that! What the **** does he "coach" them? They are both awful and he needs to take accountability for that! Sooner he and the current goalkeepers go, the better!

JimBHibees
27-11-2024, 05:57 AM
Not sure what the fuss is about, it was stated when he signed that despite going down as a goalkeeping coach he was more of an assistant. If he's got more to do than just GK coaching, why shouldn't he be allowed to shout instructions onto the park? Not sure what his position in his playing days has to do with anything either, do we ask former defenders that become coaches to exclusively only coach defenders? Does Nuno only work with keepers at clubs he's manager of? Jose Mourinho didn't even play at professional level yet one of the best managers ever.

Not comparing anyone at hibs to their ability, just don't understand why a former goalie should only ever give instructions to goalies.

Yes don't understand it either it was explained Samson was more than a goalie coach when appointed. No idea of his capabilities but if David wants him there no issue.

18Craig75
27-11-2024, 06:03 AM
Is he assistant manager or a goalkeeper coach? I think it’s become clear he can’t do both.

Bring in a dedicated goalie coach and we can at least hope 2 keeps stop making the same goal costing mistakes twice each!!

Stokesy's on fire
27-11-2024, 06:28 AM
Hibs fans didn't moan about samson when he was last at the club. Perhaps it's fair to say the issue is we have really poor keepers at the club and the kind of mistakes they re making isn't on samsons head.

Nicho87
27-11-2024, 06:29 AM
Gray could do himself good by getting an experienced assistant in, it’s not too late.

Removing Samson or Craig wouldn’t be the worst idea

Winston Ingram
27-11-2024, 07:57 AM
How embarrassing is Samson? He shouts drivel the whole game. At one point Samson our GK coach was giving instructions to our CF. Surely Gray should tell him to sit on his arse and concentrate on getting at least one of our goalies to actually act like one. Hibs are the only team I’ve seen this season have 4 coaches shout instructions to the players during a game. Our club is a mess but Samson is ridiculous

His a ***** goalie coach that's for sure

WestStandWillie
27-11-2024, 08:08 AM
Two keepers are making basic simple mistakes, that falls on Samson. His position has become untenable and should be removed from the coaching team immediately.

HIBS NUTS
27-11-2024, 09:33 AM
Get rid of Samson and Marshal, I still don’t know what Marshall brings to the table.😳

superfurryhibby
27-11-2024, 09:46 AM
From my seat in the East I can barely see , never mind hear, anyone on the opposite touchline.

But really, who actually gives a flying **** about Samson and his efforts with the players?

The tiresome pointless moaners really need to step up their game a bit on here.

Joe6-2
27-11-2024, 09:56 AM
Is he assistant manager or a goalkeeper coach? I think it’s become clear he can’t do both.

Bring in a dedicated goalie coach and we can at least hope 2 keeps stop making the same goal costing mistakes twice each!!

It’s clear he can’t do either

LaMotta
27-11-2024, 09:59 AM
From my seat in the East I can barely see , never mind hear, anyone on the opposite touchline.

But really, who actually gives a flying **** about Samson and his efforts with the players?

The tiresome pointless moaners really need to step up their game a bit on here.

This exactly.:agree:

Samson's name has just become something that people have bizarrely latched on to and people are making out he is a huge issue, when quite frankly nobody has any idea if he is or he isn't.

If the players behind the scenes are slating him etc then thats different, but I'm not aware of that.

Hibernian Verse
27-11-2024, 10:02 AM
If Gray had a problem with it he'd tell him to pipe down. What I saw last night was Gray giving instructions to Samson who then relaid it to the players in question.

Much ado about **** all.

wookie70
27-11-2024, 10:50 AM
Is he assistant manager or a goalkeeper coach? I think it’s become clear he can’t do both.

Bring in a dedicated goalie coach and we can at least hope 2 keeps stop making the same goal costing mistakes twice each!!

He is a goalkeeping coach (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/17/david-gray-confirms-backroom-team/) from what I can see. Out of all the coaching issues we could point fingers at by far the most obvious is the lack of ability and the atrocious decisions our keepers are making. I don't like all the nonsense with flicking ears I have seen at training and warm ups either. Albeit the whole goalkeeping unit deserve a firm clip round the ear. A bit of hilarity is fine but it seems childish and unprofessional and appears to come from Samson.

overdrive
27-11-2024, 11:43 AM
He is a goalkeeping coach (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/17/david-gray-confirms-backroom-team/) from what I can see. Out of all the coaching issues we could point fingers at by far the most obvious is the lack of ability and the atrocious decisions our keepers are making. I don't like all the nonsense with flicking ears I have seen at training and warm ups either. Albeit the whole goalkeeping unit deserve a firm clip round the ear. A bit of hilarity is fine but it seems childish and unprofessional and appears to come from Samson.

David Gray then did an interview saying that was wrong to call him the goalkeeping coach and he is assistant coach just like Craig and May. He will definitely be taking the keepers’ training. I have a feeling Gray views him as his #2. Be interesting to see who fronts up if Gray was suspended.

wookie70
27-11-2024, 11:47 AM
David Gray then did an interview saying that was wrong to call him the goalkeeping coach and he is assistant coach just like Craig and May. He will definitely be taking the keepers’ training. I have a feeling Gray views him as his #2. Be interesting to see who fronts up if Gray was suspended.

He definitely takes the Keeper Training when I have been down there. That will be a major part of his role and he really should be getting judged on the mistakes that are being made. Mind you no amount of coaching will make Smith a reasonable number 1 at this level looking at his stature and athletic ability. The third goal last night looked like an U11 goalie playing in the big goals for the first time.

Springbank
27-11-2024, 11:56 AM
The best thing SDG could have done in the last international break would have been to announce he was his own man by binning off Samson, Eddie May and Liam Craig, and bringing in better backroom staff.

When you look at the most authoritative managers in football, they rarely keep their backroom staff and, if anything, change their assistants/backroom staff to assert their authority and as a way of setting standards.

We have players who are fast, lightweight, and not cut out for defending.
They are also the guys the opposition would hate to face, running at them at pace, on the counter attack after we defend a set piece
So if you stick youan, boyle etc on halfway, when it's an opposition corner, you reduce the numbers in our box to 5, maximum.

(One corner taker, one keeper, 2 back on Youan and Boyle, 2 more to cover the space outside the box)

So I don't get why Samson wants to always coach Youan and Boyle to defend at opposition set pieces. It just puts more attackers in our box, and fewer Hibs players who can effectively defend, plus it gives us no outball.

It's lunacy

Centre Hawf
27-11-2024, 11:57 AM
I don't really get the hate he's receiving at times. Him shouting at the touchline is perfectly fine as he is one of the assistant coaches. Also in regards to the two keepers I don't think any amount of coaching could save them.

TrinityHFC
27-11-2024, 12:18 PM
I don't really get the hate he's receiving at times. Him shouting at the touchline is perfectly fine as he is one of the assistant coaches. Also in regards to the two keepers I don't think any amount of coaching could save them.

Yep, just personal nonsense.

Coco Bryce
27-11-2024, 12:26 PM
Gray could do himself good by getting an experienced assistant in, it’s not too late.

Removing Samson or Craig wouldn’t be the worst idea

And Eddie May. He's just a kids coach.

Exuberance1875
27-11-2024, 05:35 PM
Samsons a throbber. Used to act like one in the away dugout last couple seasons too

JimBHibees
27-11-2024, 05:38 PM
I don't really get the hate he's receiving at times. Him shouting at the touchline is perfectly fine as he is one of the assistant coaches. Also in regards to the two keepers I don't think any amount of coaching could save them.

Yes ridiculous

Donegal Hibby
27-11-2024, 05:41 PM
I don't really get the hate he's receiving at times. Him shouting at the touchline is perfectly fine as he is one of the assistant coaches. Also in regards to the two keepers I don't think any amount of coaching could save them.

Agree CH .

Jones28
27-11-2024, 05:47 PM
Samsons a throbber. Used to act like one in the away dugout last couple seasons too

And we were probably going on about how much passion he showed and how we wished our coaching team got as animated as that.

cabbageandribs1875
27-11-2024, 05:51 PM
Two keepers are making basic simple mistakes, that falls on Samson. His position has become untenable and should be removed from the coaching team immediately.


sorry but how/why can our keepers doing daft mistakes be on anyone else :confused: i doubt they are coached to do simple basic errors


Bursik v Dundee, that's not on samson

Smith flapping last night, that's not on samson

CapitalGreen
27-11-2024, 05:51 PM
I’ve no idea if Samson is a good coach or not but don’t understand the logic that because he was a goalkeeper he can’t give a striker advice.

Nottingham Forest manager Nuno Espirito Santo was a goalkeeper and he’s currently got Chris Wood playing in the form of his life at 32.

Smartie
27-11-2024, 05:52 PM
I don't really get the hate he's receiving at times. Him shouting at the touchline is perfectly fine as he is one of the assistant coaches. Also in regards to the two keepers I don't think any amount of coaching could save them.

That's where I am.

I get that our results haven't been good enough, over the piece performances haven't been good enough but I don't really get what Samson is meant to be doing to be doing it right let alone what he's actually doing to be doing it wrong.

There's a bit of a danger with picking up criticism that comes with staff from other clubs - I'm thinking about Lee Johnson being sunk by the David Brent stuff that followed him from Sunderland.


I also couldn't agree more that all the coaching in the world doesn't make our current 2 good enough.

GreenCastle
27-11-2024, 05:55 PM
A few things here - plenty Aberdeen fans delighted he left as seemed to cause issues with Aberdeen. He leaves and they push on - their keepers improve.

I think if our keepers were actually even half competent there wouldn’t be an issue but they look so far off it for a variety of reasons he surely has to hold a large amount of blame too.

Regarding Gray and him - think he should just let Gray do the job and not be the guy who is constantly having word with a player. Many players hate this type of micro management especially mid game.

Exuberance1875
27-11-2024, 06:00 PM
And we were probably going on about how much passion he showed and how we wished our coaching team got as animated as that.

Nah the goalie coach literally shouldn’t be on the bench if you ask me, certainly shouldn’t be standing about the technical area. If the goalie we’ve picked needs active coaching at Premiership level as the game is going on, you are struggling

Jones28
27-11-2024, 06:10 PM
Nah the goalie coach literally shouldn’t be on the bench if you ask me, certainly shouldn’t be standing about the technical area. If the goalie we’ve picked needs active coaching at Premiership level as the game is going on, you are struggling

I’m sure the boys on Down The Slope said he wasn’t just a GK coach, he’s an assistant coach.

Exuberance1875
27-11-2024, 06:17 PM
I’m sure the boys on Down The Slope said he wasn’t just a GK coach, he’s an assistant coach.

Aye, sorry I was meaning last year when he was in the away dugout.

I do question who is he assisting at Hibs though, Liam Craig spends most of the game watching Netflix on the iPad.

Eddie May rarely makes an appearance.

Samson is maybe there for banter and ear flicking purposes.

Is the combined GK coach role and assistant coach role a money saving exercise to help fund Kensell’s new motor?

O'Rourke3
27-11-2024, 10:53 PM
A few things here - plenty Aberdeen fans delighted he left as seemed to cause issues with Aberdeen. He leaves and they push on - their keepers improve.

I think if our keepers were actually even half competent there wouldn’t be an issue but they look so far off it for a variety of reasons he surely has to hold a large amount of blame too.

Regarding Gray and him - think he should just let Gray do the job and not be the guy who is constantly having word with a player. Many players hate this type of micro management especially mid game.Nothing to do with a change of management team and Mitov being a far better keeper then?

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Stokesy's on fire
28-11-2024, 06:45 PM
Nothing to do with a change of management team and Mitov being a far better keeper then?

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Aberdeen fans were raging because he walked out them for Hibs. And you are correct regarding Mitov.

GreenCastle
28-11-2024, 06:55 PM
Nothing to do with a change of management team and Mitov being a far better keeper then?

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https://afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/48509-craig-samson/

https://afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/47595-samson/

Some some them mentioning him...

wookie70
28-11-2024, 06:58 PM
https://afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/48509-craig-samson/

https://afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/47595-samson/

Some some them mentioning him...

Not exactly sad to see him go

Centre Hawf
28-11-2024, 07:05 PM
Not exactly sad to see him go

Was Samson not our actual GK coach when Jack Ross was here and worked with Marciano and he was still good enough to go get his move to Feyenoord off the back of his full season with him?

Hibiza
28-11-2024, 07:14 PM
Just another inept appointment . Give Samson a loudhailer .

GreenCastle
28-11-2024, 07:27 PM
Was Samson not our actual GK coach when Jack Ross was here and worked with Marciano and he was still good enough to go get his move to Feyenoord off the back of his full season with him?

According to this...https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/craig-samson/profil/trainer/64835

July 2020 till Feb 2022.

During that time...

Jack Ross 74 games

Maloney - 7 games

Gray - 3 games

...............

Marciano - joined Hibs August 2016 till July 2021

Bogdan - joined Hibs July 2018 till July 2020.

Hibees1973
28-11-2024, 07:31 PM
Gray, Craig, May and Samson.

Hardly coaching luminaries, the four of them. Dare I say it another Golden Quadrant.

We ain't going to get any better with this lot are we.

wookie70
28-11-2024, 07:33 PM
Was Samson not our actual GK coach when Jack Ross was here and worked with Marciano and he was still good enough to go get his move to Feyenoord off the back of his full season with him? Yep and also on the bench for us as a player during that period.

CB Hibs 68
28-11-2024, 08:16 PM
Yes don't understand it either it was explained Samson was more than a goalie coach when appointed. No idea of his capabilities but if David wants him there no issue.

That is exactly what the problem is.David Gray should be supported by an experienced Assistant.He is surrounded by folk who are not up to the job.Worries me greatly who David Gray has along side him.

JimBHibees
29-11-2024, 06:51 AM
That is exactly what the problem is.David Gray should be supported by an experienced Assistant.He is surrounded by folk who are not up to the job.Worries me greatly who David Gray has along side him.

He does have Malky though

Yorkshire HFC
29-11-2024, 06:59 AM
I don't really get the hate he's receiving at times. Him shouting at the touchline is perfectly fine as he is one of the assistant coaches. Also in regards to the two keepers I don't think any amount of coaching could save them.

The internet is a strange place - people with no knowledge of the situation, demanding other people be sacked.

I wonder if they sit in their jobs every day demanding other people be sacked. :-)

JimBHibees
29-11-2024, 07:01 AM
The internet is a strange place - people with no knowledge of the situation, demanding other people be sacked.

I wonder if they sit in their jobs every day demanding other people be sacked. :-)

Yep very odd wouldn’t have a clue what role most of the background staff at Hibs do and how good they were at the job

Exuberance1875
29-11-2024, 11:13 AM
The internet is a strange place - people with no knowledge of the situation, demanding other people be sacked.

I wonder if they sit in their jobs every day demanding other people be sacked. :-)

Good pretty good knowledge to the fact that we are bottom and both are absolutely atrocious and showing zero signs of improvement.

ekhibee
29-11-2024, 01:46 PM
If Samson is not the person responsible for coaching our **** goalies then who is? By the way, not that long ago Gordon Marshall was our goalkeeping coach and he was ***** at it as well, even though as a player he was a far better keeper than Samson was imo.

WhileTheChief..
29-11-2024, 02:08 PM
Yep very odd wouldn’t have a clue what role most of the background staff at Hibs do and how good they were at the job

And yet whenever someone posts positive things about anyone at our club, you lap it up without question.

But anytime someone posts something negative, you immediately think it’s BS.

JimBHibees
29-11-2024, 09:40 PM
And yet whenever someone posts positive things about anyone at our club, you lap it up without question.

But anytime someone posts something negative, you immediately think it’s BS.

Yes of course i do

eastmainsmsh
30-11-2024, 11:53 AM
Get Combe back

TrinityHFC
30-11-2024, 12:06 PM
If Samson is not the person responsible for coaching our **** goalies then who is? By the way, not that long ago Gordon Marshall was our goalkeeping coach and he was ***** at it as well, even though as a player he was a far better keeper than Samson was imo.

It isn’t that tricky. He is the goalkeeper coach but he has additional responsibilities in being one of the first team assistant coaches.

Paul1642
30-11-2024, 12:08 PM
The best thing SDG could have done in the last international break would have been to announce he was his own man by binning off Samson, Eddie May and Liam Craig, and bringing in better backroom staff.

When you look at the most authoritative managers in football, they rarely keep their backroom staff and, if anything, change their assistants/backroom staff to assert their authority and as a way of setting standards.

We have players who are fast, lightweight, and not cut out for defending.
They are also the guys the opposition would hate to face, running at them at pace, on the counter attack after we defend a set piece
So if you stick youan, boyle etc on halfway, when it's an opposition corner, you reduce the numbers in our box to 5, maximum.

(One corner taker, one keeper, 2 back on Youan and Boyle, 2 more to cover the space outside the box)

So I don't get why Samson wants to always coach Youan and Boyle to defend at opposition set pieces. It just puts more attackers in our box, and fewer Hibs players who can effectively defend, plus it gives us no outball.

It's lunacy

No club is ever going to fund paying off a managers backroom staff and hiring replacements when the manger himself is a potentially couple of games from the sack.

Unless a brilliant turnaround occurs then the club could end up paying off two sets of backroom staff in a matter of weeks.

LaMotta
27-12-2024, 07:26 PM
How good have Craig Samson's touchline instructions been in recent weeks! :wink:

lucky
27-12-2024, 08:56 PM
How good have Craig Samson's touchline instructions been in recent weeks! :wink:

Excellent because he's sat on his stse most of the time and left Gray to get on with it.

JimBHibees
27-12-2024, 09:03 PM
Excellent because he's sat on his stse most of the time and left Gray to get on with it.

Not sure anything has changed

LaMotta
27-12-2024, 09:31 PM
Not sure anything has changed

Exactly, absolute hysteria about him earlier this season.

lucky
29-12-2024, 11:36 AM
Not sure anything has changed

I am. He very rarely tries to micromanage from the touchline. The vast majority of the coaching is coming from Gray as it always should have been.

Hibiza
29-12-2024, 01:21 PM
I said on another thread that he's actually Mick Talbot from the Style Council.

CapitalGreen
25-04-2025, 03:12 PM
New 3 year deal along with SDG, LC & EM. Well done Craig.

RMQ1967
25-04-2025, 04:23 PM
New 3 year deal along with SDG, LC & EM. Well done Craig.

Delighted for them all 🙏

Some highly amusing/embarrassing posts on this thread, well worth a read back 😂

I ended up sitting with CS's mum at the Ayr game - she would only say one of her sons was on the coaching staff at first, didn't want to say who it was because of the abuse he'd been getting.

Thing is, reasonable fans could see that we were playing well in most games & the odd terrible decision was screwing us.

Coaches that can actually improve players are worth their weight in gold & worth every penny of their new contracts from what we see on the pitch now.

Not a player that hasn't improved as the season has gone on.

Silky
25-04-2025, 06:00 PM
Gray, Craig, May and Samson.

Hardly coaching luminaries, the four of them. Dare I say it another Golden Quadrant.

We ain't going to get any better with this lot are we.

Aren't we? Interesting how well this thread has aged. Some belters here. :greengrin