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the tornadoe
24-11-2024, 07:45 AM
Can anyone explain why Youan played the whole match last night ?
After the sending off we all knew it was gonna be backs to the wall, defending a priority, maybe just maybe catch them on a brake away.

The lad possess zero defensive attributes, not having a go at him, his game is all about running at players although done very little of that this season. He would have been my first sub, get him off, put Iredale left back, leave N Cadden on left midfield. Make us as difficult to get through as possible and again hope we can catch them on the break.

Obviously I'm not Coach/ Manager but the way we have been playing that would seem the obvious thing to do under the circumstances last night.

You an staying on the park completely bafgles me !!

hibsbollah
24-11-2024, 07:51 AM
I agree with you, thats also what i wpuld have done. Although there is an argument that in a functional team, your best bet of holding out for 80+ minutes with 10 men 1-0 up is to try to sneak a 2nd goal on the break. I still trust Youan to be our best shot at scoring a breakaway goal, so i could also see Grays thinking in leaving him on.

There was no way back from the red card whatever we’d done though. This team are incapable of doing the basics at the back. Did anyone seriously think we would survive at that point?

HarpOnHibee
24-11-2024, 11:58 AM
Because we have no tactical flexibility under David Gray. We continue to play the same way, regardless of the situation. It could also be that the club wants to try and keep Youan in the shop window so are keeping him out on display as much as possible. Not that I think it will do a whole lot of good.

CapitalGreen
24-11-2024, 12:01 PM
Because we have no tactical flexibility under David Gray. We continue to play the same way, regardless of the situation. It could also be that the club wants to try and keep Youan in the shop window so are keeping him out on display as much as possible. Not that I think it will do a whole lot of good.

We switched to 2 up front last night.

Iain G
24-11-2024, 12:03 PM
Can anyone explain why Youan played the whole match last night ?
After the sending off we all knew it was gonna be backs to the wall, defending a priority, maybe just maybe catch them on a brake away.

The lad possess zero defensive attributes, not having a go at him, his game is all about running at players although done very little of that this season. He would have been my first sub, get him off, put Iredale left back, leave N Cadden on left midfield. Make us as difficult to get through as possible and again hope we can catch them on the break.

Obviously I'm not Coach/ Manager but the way we have been playing that would seem the obvious thing to do under the circumstances last night.

You an staying on the park completely bafgles me !!

Because he wasn't substituted or sent off!

HarpOnHibee
24-11-2024, 12:04 PM
We switched to 2 up front last night.

Our approach to the game doesn't change though. Even when the formation is altered, the style of play remains the same. There doesn't appear to be a plan B.

easty
24-11-2024, 12:07 PM
Our approach to the game doesn't change though. Even when the formation is altered, the style of play remains the same. There doesn't appear to be a plan B.

I'm not convinced there's a plan A.

HarpOnHibee
24-11-2024, 12:21 PM
I'm not convinced there's a plan A.

Fair point. My issue with Youan is that even although he is capable of looking tidy on the ball at times, he does so within his own wee bubble. He doesn't look like he's playing within a team, only for himself. In the modern game, you need players who will work equally as hard off the ball and Youan doesn't appear interested in doing so. He just wants to look clever on the ball so he can add them to his collection of clips.

SON OF PADDY
24-11-2024, 01:39 PM
Fair point. My issue with Youan is that even although he is capable of looking tidy on the ball at times, he does so within his own wee bubble. He doesn't look like he's playing within a team, only for himself. In the modern game, you need players who will work equally as hard off the ball and Youan doesn't appear interested in doing so. He just wants to look clever on the ball so he can add them to his collection of clips.


He doesn't want to be here, and tbh I don't want him here, hopefully he's away in January with the rest of the dead wood.

The Spaceman
26-11-2024, 09:23 PM
As fired up as I’ve seen him in a long time. Was a threat all game - more of the same please Elie.

Unseen work
26-11-2024, 09:23 PM
He’s a really good player for us

Give him the ball and something will happen

Booked4Being-Ugly
26-11-2024, 09:25 PM
Brilliant attitude tonight. An on-fire Youan will be crucial for the rest of the season.

nickwhibs
26-11-2024, 09:29 PM
Was class tonight. Nice to see some mutual love between him and the Hibs fans at the end

Carheenlea
26-11-2024, 09:31 PM
He doesn't want to be here, and tbh I don't want him here, hopefully he's away in January with the rest of the dead wood.

When you watched his solo reaction to the equaliser tonight it didn’t look like a player who is desperate to leave.

California-Hibs
26-11-2024, 09:33 PM
He was excellent tonight. When he's focused and using that brilliant skill and pace to great effect then he's a huge weapon for us and players will hate playing against him. Keep it going Ellie!

Centre Hawf
26-11-2024, 09:35 PM
I said in the match day thread that I like when he's playing like that. Just go do your thing. We're a better team when he feels free to go dribble at people, it doesn't always come off but we just need it to sometimes work.

Albahibs
26-11-2024, 09:38 PM
An exciting player when on form. He was very good tonight, looked up for it. One of our better players.

hibee_girl
26-11-2024, 09:38 PM
He was well up for it tonight. He was even good defensively which isn’t always the case.

Smartie
26-11-2024, 09:41 PM
Delighted to see him play well tonight.

The criticism he's had to endure will have stung and there's a right way and a wrong way to react.

That's the right way to shut Mikey Stewart up.

Vault Boy
26-11-2024, 09:55 PM
A player of real quality. Thoroughly enjoyed watching him play tonight. Capable of so much.

HarpOnHibee
26-11-2024, 10:00 PM
If he can perform like that more consistently and work hard not just going forward but tracking back like he did tonight, then he'll show that he is indeed a player after all and not the joke I suggested he was. He evidently has a lot to offer when he can be bothered and tonight was a great way to respond to the criticism.

LaMotta
26-11-2024, 10:05 PM
Typical Youan tonight- some moments of brilliance, some dreadful moments too.

Something will come off for him soon.

BILLYHIBS
26-11-2024, 10:07 PM
Was full of tricks and flicks tonight but that one moment in the first half when he dipped a shoulder and sent in a rasper of a drive to test the goalkeeper was top drawer absolute quality and a reminder of what he is capable of when he puts his mind to it

Bravo Elie

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HarpOnHibee
26-11-2024, 10:07 PM
Typical Youan tonight- some moments of brilliance, some dreadful moments too.

Something will come off for him soon.

To be fair to him tonight, I only recall him really having one poor moment when he attempted a cross field pass when it wasn't on. Besides that, he put in a pretty solid shift along with the rest of them.

coldingham hibs
26-11-2024, 10:07 PM
Great performance & attitude tonight, hopefully that’s him turned a corner.

Crab apple
26-11-2024, 10:10 PM
He was good tonight. I thought Nicky Cadden, Rocky and Iredale played well too. But ffs we will continually be let down if we can't find a decent keeper.

LaMotta
26-11-2024, 10:12 PM
To be fair to him tonight, I only recall him really having one poor moment when he attempted a cross field pass when it wasn't on. Besides that, he put in a pretty solid shift along with the rest of them.

Think you missed a few moments - brilliant touch and skip past a player in the second half only to play a simple 10 yard pass to the opposition that led to a dangerous Aberdeen attack.. Then he somehow managed to run about 60 yards whilst mis controlling the ball twice and getting the break of the ball before sclaffing the ball to nobody in the box. Still moments where he doesn't help his team mates out enough defensively - Aberdeen's third goal as an example.

But more positives than negatives.

hibsbollah
26-11-2024, 10:16 PM
Players like him are why i go to games.

HarpOnHibee
26-11-2024, 10:22 PM
Think you missed a few moments - brilliant touch and skip past a player in the second half only to play a simple 10 yard pass to the opposition that led to a dangerous Aberdeen attack.. Then he somehow managed to run about 60 yards whilst mis controlling the ball twice and getting the break of the ball before sclaffing the ball to nobody in the box. Still moments where he doesn't help his team mates out enough defensively - Aberdeen's third goal as an example.

But more positives than negatives.

Oh I agree. He wasn't perfect tonight, none of them were. But in terms of sheer effort, I can't fault him. My biggest criticism of Youan has been his attitude, but there was nothing wrong with it tonight and I have to give credit where it's due.

overdrive
26-11-2024, 10:23 PM
He’s trolling Marvin Bartley on his Instagram story tonight

dp00
26-11-2024, 10:25 PM
Part of me loves it … part of me think it’s gonna bite him in the ass [emoji23][emoji23]

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hibee_girl
26-11-2024, 10:25 PM
He’s brave taking on Bartley :greengrin

SHODAN
26-11-2024, 10:26 PM
Look, if spite is what gets him to perform like that then he can be the most spiteful ****er on the planet.

Murphys Touch
26-11-2024, 10:30 PM
Are we really celebrating and gloating about tonight as a club.

Youan proving Bartley and Stewart’s point right there

AugustaHibs
26-11-2024, 10:31 PM
Are we really celebrating and gloating about tonight as a club

It sums up the mentality of our current group.

hibsbollah
26-11-2024, 10:35 PM
Are we really celebrating and gloating about tonight as a club.

Youan proving Bartley and Stewart’s point right there

Youans gloating because he got motm.
Get some joy in your life.

Murphys Touch
26-11-2024, 10:38 PM
Youans gloating because he got motm.
Get some joy in your life.

Got plenty pal cheers!

JohnM1875
26-11-2024, 10:44 PM
Part of me loves it … part of me think it’s gonna bite him in the ass [emoji23][emoji23]

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Absolutely ****ing love it! Well played, Elie.

TrinityHFC
26-11-2024, 10:48 PM
Are we really celebrating and gloating about tonight as a club.

Youan proving Bartley and Stewart’s point right there

Don’t think so.

CJHibby
26-11-2024, 11:16 PM
Well done Elie-good on you. You've more ability in your little pinkie toe than Marv has in his whole body. All muscles and no brains..and even less class with his recent outburst. Hibs BEST player by a mile.

HIBS NUTS
26-11-2024, 11:23 PM
He was good tonight.

Stuart93
26-11-2024, 11:29 PM
Hopefully manages to keep up his performances or that could look a bit silly

I’d much rather he went about his business quietly

marinello59
27-11-2024, 12:45 AM
A joy to watch tonight. I was hoping he would score and celebrate by doing some keepie uppie. :greengrin

Stokesy's on fire
27-11-2024, 04:21 AM
He’s trolling Marvin Bartley on his Instagram story tonight

Well done Marv for firing him up hope he rips him again.

Stairway 2 7
27-11-2024, 05:39 AM
Part of me loves it … part of me think it’s gonna bite him in the ass [emoji23][emoji23]

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That's brilliant 👏 😀 the one he almost scored in the fist half was class, two tricks to beat both defenders then the keeper we should have signed pulled a great save

Swap keepers and a comfortable win for hibs

Bobby's Cinema
27-11-2024, 05:43 AM
Part of me loves it … part of me think it’s gonna bite him in the ass [emoji23][emoji23]

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Haha I'm going to go with love it. He was outstanding last night.

Nicho87
27-11-2024, 06:34 AM
Great performance tonight

theonlywayisup
27-11-2024, 06:47 AM
That was more like the Youan of the last couple of seasons. I ask myself why he's not played like that in all the other games he's played for us this season.

Maybe wanting to impress other clubs prior to the transfer window. :cb

Coco Bryce
27-11-2024, 06:58 AM
That was more like the Youan of the last couple of seasons. I ask myself why he's not played like that in all the other games he's played for us this season.

Maybe wanting to impress other clubs prior to the transfer window. :cb

:agree:

Greenio
27-11-2024, 06:59 AM
I dont mind his insta post - shows he gives a **** - needs to do that level of effort every week tho.

Also needs to just run at defenders more

18Craig75
27-11-2024, 07:02 AM
That was more like the Youan of the last couple of seasons. I ask myself why he's not played like that in all the other games he's played for us this season.

Maybe wanting to impress other clubs prior to the transfer window. :cb

If that is the case then it’s a win/win.

I think the position he was in helped him tbh, sort of a free role allowing him to pick up the ball a bit deeper allowing him to face up defenders.

superfurryhibby
27-11-2024, 07:04 AM
Well played Youan, he was class last night. A big GIRFUY to the detractors.

Paulie Walnuts
27-11-2024, 07:08 AM
Said it before, but he should be starting every game. We need him firing to have any chance of getting out of this mess.

Just_Jimmy
27-11-2024, 07:26 AM
Well done Elie-good on you. You've more ability in your little pinkie toe than Marv has in his whole body. All muscles and no brains..and even less class with his recent outburst. Hibs BEST player by a mile.Total dross. Bartley was superb for Hibs and gave everything every week.

Youhan has ability but he's selfish and all about himself.

Marv still cares about Hibs, does Elle, even now? Nah

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superfurryhibby
27-11-2024, 07:29 AM
Total dross. Bartley was superb for Hibs and gave everything every week.

Youhan has ability but he's selfish and all about himself.

Marv still cares about Hibs, does Elle, even now? Nah

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Bartley was overall pretty gash and he showed how professional he was when he was skiving out of training to make abusive and threatening phone calls to his female victim. That's what it being all about yourself means. But of course he still cares about Hibs :top marks

SON OF PADDY
27-11-2024, 07:36 AM
When you watched his solo reaction to the equaliser tonight it didn’t look like a player who is desperate to leave.

Yes,he played well tonight!
But in all honesty, do you truly believe that he wants to stay here, I certainly don't.

JohnM1875
27-11-2024, 07:39 AM
Yes,he played well tonight!
But in all honesty, do you truly believe that he wants to stay here, I certainly don't.

Most decent players we sign wont want to stay though, they'll see us as a platform for a bigger move. Its just where Scottish footballs at.

As long as he's performing I don't really mind if he wants a move.

Just_Jimmy
27-11-2024, 07:39 AM
Bartley was overall pretty gash and he showed how professional he was when he was skiving out of training to make abusive and threatening phone calls to his female victim. That's what it being all about yourself means. But of course he still cares about Hibs :top marksBartley wasn't 'pretty gash'. He played a role in a Hibs midfield well that was needed. We've never effectively replaced that role either.

This rewriting of History that's taken place about Bartley since he said some to the point stuff about Youhan last weekend is poor.

Youhan is a talent but he often lacks application, hardly a Hibs fan could be found that didn't agree with that. If Bartley has lit a fire under him then great, the truth hurts. Kick on and prove everyone wrong. I'd love to see it.

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neil7908
27-11-2024, 07:43 AM
A bit premature from Elie. He's not got a goal or an assist yet this season for a team sitting bottom of the league and its almost December.

Youan needs to do this week in week out and get us off the bottom of the table before he starts giving it out.

SON OF PADDY
27-11-2024, 07:49 AM
Most decent players we sign wont want to stay though, they'll see us as a platform for a bigger move. Its just where Scottish footballs at.

As long as he's performing I don't really mind if he wants a move.


I want players that a committed to the club, not someone with their eye on their next move.

superfurryhibby
27-11-2024, 07:52 AM
Bartley wasn't 'pretty gash'. He played a role in a Hibs midfield well that was needed. We've never effectively replaced that role either.

This rewriting of History that's taken place about Bartley since he said some to the point stuff about Youhan last weekend is poor.

Youhan is a talent but he often lacks application, hardly a Hibs fan could be found that didn't agree with that. If Bartley has lit a fire under him then great, the truth hurts. Kick on and prove everyone wrong. I'd love to see it.

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When you and some of his other detractors learn to spell Youan's name properly I might consider taking anything you say seriously.

As it is , I'm not having nonsense about Bartley's professionalism or loving Hibs.

"Bartley told the court he ducked out of Hibs' training to phone McRae, 25, about the messages, before driving from Edinburgh to Glasgow after the training session to confront her.

Not the shining example of professionalism some claim.

Just_Jimmy
27-11-2024, 07:59 AM
When you and some of his other detractors learn to spell Youan's name properly I might consider taking anything you say seriously.

As it is , I'm not having nonsense about Bartley's professionalism or loving Hibs.

"Bartley told the court he ducked out of Hibs' training to phone McRae, 25, about the messages, before driving from Edinburgh to Glasgow after the training session to confront her.

Not the shining example of professionalism some claim.Yup, nothing we say about his ability compared to his application is valid because I put and H into his surname a few times on a forum. Solid logic.

The Bartley stuff you highlight is undoubtedly unsavoury. No argument from me.

Bartley was a good player who filled his role really well at hibs.

If we can say that when youan leaves about him then great. One swallow doesn't make a summer and frankly, this team, youan included, have let us down far too often. Last night a decent start, nothing more.

It's telling that his first thought was to post on social media having a go at Bartley.

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Since452
27-11-2024, 08:02 AM
Don't mind Youans GIRUY to Bartley at all even though I agreed with Marv. If he uses it as fuel then it's a good thing. He actually played pretty well last night. We need fire in our bellys to get out of this.

hibsbollah
27-11-2024, 08:15 AM
A bit premature from Elie. He's not got a goal or an assist yet this season for a team sitting bottom of the league and its almost December.

Youan needs to do this week in week out and get us off the bottom of the table before he starts giving it out.

I think its only fair to remind yourself that he only got his first start exactly a month ago in the derby. From a quick look at our website it looks like hes started 4 games, including a couple of sub appearances. Its not like hes in a ‘week in week out’ drought, hes been injured and his season has barely started.

Paulie Walnuts
27-11-2024, 08:23 AM
It's telling that his first thought was to post on social media having a go at Bartley.

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What does it tell you?

RIP
27-11-2024, 08:28 AM
Elie is my favourite Hibs player by far. He was signed as a striker and it's very obvious that his preferred position is as a nine.

The only way he will ever repay the investment we made in him is when a brave manager plays him in and around the penalty box.

He's completely wasted (and frustrated) playing touchline tango. Surely, he's earned the right in front of Myko and Gayle?

Centre Hawf
27-11-2024, 08:30 AM
Don't mind Youans GIRUY to Bartley at all even though I agreed with Marv. If he uses it as fuel then it's a good thing. He actually played pretty well last night. We need fire in our bellys to get out of this.

This is where I am. If Marv genuinely cares then he's not wrong to have a pop. At the same time Elie is entitled to defend himself. All I hope is that this ends in Elie wanting to prove a point over the coming months and we see the best from him.

Pretty Boy
27-11-2024, 08:33 AM
He played well last night.

You could point out his lack of helping out the defender at the 3rd goal but I think there just has to be a level of acceptance that that isn't his game. Aye it's a bit frustrating but it is what it is.

Going forward he had people of their seats throughout last night and that should be the real take away. It was telling he ran to the fans in the west when we equalised and got a great reception from them (contrasted to both Boyle and JDH getting into heated arguments in the 1st half when warming up). I think he's just a guy who doesn't respond well to to criticism and wants/needs to be loved. Hopefully we can find a way to manage that going forward for as long as he is here.

lucky
27-11-2024, 08:34 AM
Elie is my favourite Hibs player by far. He was signed as a striker and it's very obvious that his preferred position is as a nine.

The only way he will ever repay the investment we made in him is when a brave manager plays him in and around the penalty box.

He's completely wasted (and frustrated) playing touchline tango. Surely, he's earned the right in front of Myko and Gayle?

He is not a centre-forward in a million years. He played well last night but having him as our CF will do even more damage than it does when he can't be arsed on the wing.

Centre Hawf
27-11-2024, 08:37 AM
He played well last night.

You could point out his lack of helping out the defender at the 3rd goal but I think there just has to be a level of acceptance that that isn't his game. Aye it's a bit frustrating but it is what it is.

Going forward he had people of their seats throughout last night and that should be the real take away. It was telling he ran to the fans in the west when we equalised and got a great reception from them (contrasted to both Boyle and JDH getting into heated arguments in the 1st half when warming up). I think he's just a guy who doesn't respond well to to criticism and wants/needs to be loved. Hopefully we can find a way to manage that going forward for as long as he is here.

I agree. I think the whole Montgomery 442 debacle really threw Elie under the bus in that regard. Especially when we were trying to hold onto leads and asking him to play within two banks of four.

I think 3-5-2 suits him perfectly as one of the front 2/3, let him focus on running channels and being a pest and make guys like Cadden, Iredale, Triantis all cover the defensive stuff.

Paulie Walnuts
27-11-2024, 08:40 AM
He played well last night.

You could point out his lack of helping out the defender at the 3rd goal but I think there just has to be a level of acceptance that that isn't his game. Aye it's a bit frustrating but it is what it is.

Going forward he had people of their seats throughout last night and that should be the real take away. It was telling he ran to the fans in the west when we equalised and got a great reception from them (contrasted to both Boyle and JDH getting into heated arguments in the 1st half when warming up). I think he's just a guy who doesn't respond well to to criticism and wants/needs to be loved. Hopefully we can find a way to manage that going forward for as long as he is here.

It pisses me off when people expect Youan to be solid defensively.

If he posed the attacking threat he does whilst also being solid defensively, he’d be nowhere near Hibs. We have to accept the flaws he has and get the best out of the massive strengths he does have.

Just_Jimmy
27-11-2024, 08:42 AM
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Pretty Boy
27-11-2024, 08:45 AM
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Dare I say both of them need to grow up.

I'd be telling my 7 year old to drop it and I'd expect her to listen.

JohnM1875
27-11-2024, 08:48 AM
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Bartley realises Elie doesn't coach the team right?

joe breezy
27-11-2024, 08:48 AM
Dare I say both of them need to grow up.

I'd be telling my 7 year old to drop it and I'd expect her to listen.

Being honest I much prefer it to Drake v Kendrick

Bartley's response is decent - ha ha

Just_Jimmy
27-11-2024, 08:48 AM
Dare I say both of them need to grow up.

I'd be telling my 7 year old to drop it and I'd expect her to listen.I agree.

Bartley had his say in his current role the other day.

Youan responded by sorts last night. He should have left it at that, in fact doubled down by playing well for the rest of the season.

It's petty from both now

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Since452
27-11-2024, 08:49 AM
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Just coming across as a dick now. Agreed with his original point. Elie had a pop back. Time to drop it.

Carheenlea
27-11-2024, 08:53 AM
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Turning into a housewives stair head rammy.

Hopefully that’s the last of it.

Paulie Walnuts
27-11-2024, 08:55 AM
No issue with Youan giving a bit back. The stick he gets is ridiculous.

Bartley is coming across like a ****ing bellend in all honesty, especially with his embarrassing response.

hibsbollah
27-11-2024, 08:55 AM
Being honest I much prefer it to Drake v Kendrick

Bartley's response is decent - ha ha

It really isnt.
Marvin needs to shut it now.

hibsbollah
27-11-2024, 08:57 AM
They all need to go on Bluesky (like hibs observer, nice to see you guys), leave twitter and play nice.

marinello59
27-11-2024, 08:59 AM
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Dearie me. Bartley really needs to shut it now.

SunshineOnLeith
27-11-2024, 08:59 AM
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Rattled.

easty
27-11-2024, 09:01 AM
Bartley bragging about honours at the start of his comeback, when even I was on the pitch at Hampden that day more than he was! :greengrin

marinello59
27-11-2024, 09:02 AM
Bartley bragging about honours at the start of his comeback, when even I was on the pitch at Hampden that day more than he was! :greengrin

:faf::faf::faf:

:top marks

The Tubs
27-11-2024, 09:03 AM
Bartley bragging about honours at the start of his comeback, when even I was on the pitch at Hampden that day more than he was! :greengrin

Something else he has in common with Mikey Stewart.

Since452
27-11-2024, 09:03 AM
https://youtu.be/3nu6aGcDeAg?si=IqyTLLNR47UGk4Wy

Tyler Durden
27-11-2024, 09:06 AM
Much like Rafa Benitez back in the day, big Marv is talking facts.

Good to see Youan play well last night, but we didn't win the game. Nothing to celebrate.

GreenPJ
27-11-2024, 09:12 AM
I like Bartley's reply - the players/management need to remember where we are in the league and how poor it has been - yes they showed a lot of character in a game that we should have won and whilst that is something to hold onto it is the smallest step forward - the continued individual errors and the goalkeeping fiasco are further negatives (one step forward, one step back). There is massive strides to take to get anywhere near something that would be acceptable.

Youan played pretty well last night when he got the ball, however, he needs to massively improve his focus (always been his issue). He should let his performances on the pitch create the response to Marv or anyone else who criticizes him.

SHODAN
27-11-2024, 09:53 AM
On one hand: Bartley would have come out of this much better if he'd replied saying "yeah fair enough" or something.

On the other: Youan was clearly really ****ing pissed off last night which drastically improved his performance. If Bartley keeps this up he might actually motivate Youan to keep performing at that level.

Tyler Durden
27-11-2024, 10:04 AM
Bartley bragging about honours at the start of his comeback, when even I was on the pitch at Hampden that day more than he was! :greengrin

If it wasn't for Marv then none of us would have been at Hampden that day!

Superb in the Hearts games, particularly at Easter road.

Musselbound
27-11-2024, 10:04 AM
Youan looks to have played well from the highlights last night, which was good to see. Needs to keep focused on his game though rather than getting involved in spats with ex players. As a pundit, Bartley is entitled to his opinion but they are best ignored.

HIBS NUTS
14-12-2024, 06:00 PM
He was fantastic for the last 25 minutes

Pretty Boy
14-12-2024, 06:01 PM
He knows how to take a penalty anyway. That was unsaveable.

Crab apple
14-12-2024, 06:03 PM
I thought he should have got the MotM today rather than Nicky C. He was our biggest threat particularly in the last half hour.

JohnM1875
14-12-2024, 06:04 PM
I thought he should have got the MotM today rather than Nicky C. He was our biggest threat particularly in the last half hour.

Totally agree, was a bit perplexed by Cads getting it, put in some good crosses, sure, but he also missed a pen.

B.H.F.C
14-12-2024, 06:07 PM
Pleased for him today. Thought in the first half he was one of the few that wanted to be positive. Effort levels have been upped in the last few weeks, whether it’s down to January coming up or whatever, I don’t really care. Hopefully he can kick on from today.

jakedance
14-12-2024, 06:13 PM
He did well today. Just about the only player who is capable of changing a game and raising his standards. We desperately need a confident, on form Youan.

e2los
14-12-2024, 06:54 PM
Pleased for him today. Thought in the first half he was one of the few that wanted to be positive. Effort levels have been upped in the last few weeks, whether it’s down to January coming up or whatever, I don’t really care. Hopefully he can kick on from today.

Great to see him get involved!

Guessing he still wants away but will take him playing well any day of the week he is still with us.

Carheenlea
14-12-2024, 07:15 PM
Looks like he really enjoying his football of late and his celebrations with Campbell was great to watch.

Looking more a team player and a stronger character.

BILLYHIBS
14-12-2024, 07:24 PM
So Boxing Day against the Yams just get a shot away the earlier the better

Same as before

They are scared of you

Thought he could have pulled the trigger sooner today

As PB said ain’t no one saving that penalty

Fergos
14-12-2024, 07:28 PM
Involved in all 3 goals today in some form.

Played well (apart from his sclaff in 2nd half!)and a crucial part in our win.

04Sauzee
14-12-2024, 07:30 PM
MOTM for me today by a distance.

GreenCastle
14-12-2024, 07:50 PM
Looks so much happier and definitely showing in his performances. Well done and massive credit for that 2nd penalty as big pressure. Great assist for 3rd goal too.

cameronw-hfc
14-12-2024, 07:50 PM
Not sure if been mentioned by others but Elie was every bit a team player today. When the 3rd was being checked he was behind the ref trying to get a look at the screen, when the ref confirmed it as a goal he was jumping about the centre circle celebrating as County kicked off.

Also noticed him trying to get the fans going a few times, and at the end had a bit of fun dancing with B7 after slowly clapping every stand.

Yet Mikey Stewart will have people believe Elie doesn't care and doesn't try.

Also noticed him sprinting 50 odd yards back to win the ball in the 90+ minute. Full of effort, looked happier for Josh than Josh himself at his goal and seemed to enjoy having fun at the end with the fans. Not at all what you'd expect if you read the things said about him.

ehf
14-12-2024, 07:53 PM
You could see his delight when we scored the third, when VAR confirmed it and coming off at the end; any suggestion he doesn’t care is nonsense.

Albahibs
14-12-2024, 07:58 PM
Looks like he really enjoying his football of late and his celebrations with Campbell was great to watch.

Looking more a team player and a stronger character.

:top marks

Delighted that he's back to near his best, and enjoying football again. His attitude was spot on today, and could easily have been motm. Keeps going like this, and there'll be higher bids than the previous quoted 2 million arriving at Easter Road.

LaMotta
14-12-2024, 08:03 PM
Hopefully working his way up to a boxing day masterclass.

B.H.F.C
14-12-2024, 08:22 PM
Hopefully working his way up to a boxing day masterclass.

If you’re a forward on either team you should be well up for that game.

Our defending today, basic stuff was comical at times. You know they will always give you a chance at some point. O’Hora obviously off injured as well.

They’re equally as bad and their best defender, Kent, looks like he’ll be out for a bit.

There are goals there for whoever wants them.

Criswell
15-12-2024, 02:32 AM
Very frustrating player. Can be skillful but too often lacks the necessary awareness to be truly effective. Played one of his better games today, but we need more consistancy.

Trinity Hibee
15-12-2024, 03:53 AM
Great pen and looked interested/lively.

Iain G
15-12-2024, 06:47 AM
Great pen and looked interested/lively.

There must be a transfer window coming up 😁

easty
15-12-2024, 07:12 AM
Picked him as captain in my fantasy team yesterday, so delighted with the goal and assist.

The Spaceman
15-12-2024, 07:16 AM
Yet again much more like the old Elie we all love. He’s back to getting you on the edge of your seat when he has the ball and is running at defenders. Took his penalty brilliantly and was very unselfish with the assist. Great game.

RIP
15-12-2024, 07:16 AM
We will never see the best of Elie Youan until he is played regularly as an penalty box attacker rather than a touchline winger.

In the first half Gray had him somewhere in deep midfield. He looked lost. It doesn't help that the last three Head Coaches have been obsessed with wing play rather than playing through the centre circle and attacking the opposition box from the front.

We signed him as a forward and he's the only player in the team who is two footed and strong in the air.

greenlex
15-12-2024, 07:18 AM
We will never see the best of Elie Youan until he is played as an attacker.

In the first half Gray had him somewhere in deep midfield. He looked lost. It doesn't help that the last three Head Coaches have been obsessed with wing play rather than playing through the centre circle and attacking the opposition box from the front.

We signed him as a forward and he's the only player in the team who is two footed and strong in the air.
Too far with strong in the air. Not saying hopeless but it’s not an attribute to be high up on his list.

RIP
15-12-2024, 07:26 AM
Too far with strong in the air. Not saying hopeless but it’s not an attribute to be high up on his list.

Sorry I should have said potentially.

We won't see that attribute often when he's picking up the ball forty yards from goal running the touchline. He needs to be in and around the opposition box.

Josh Campbell likewise

lucky
15-12-2024, 07:42 AM
He played well, hopefully he keeps trying like this after the transfer window shuts

Roxyhibee
15-12-2024, 07:49 AM
Only player who kept wanting the ball yesterday. Gave us energy throughout the whole game and easily MOTM - the rest were poor, some abysmal.

If these are his last few games for us, there’ll always be a lamenting feeling for me that we got nowhere near the best out of a high quality player. Really hope he stays, as we badly need him for the rest of the season.

Tyler Durden
15-12-2024, 08:49 AM
We will never see the best of Elie Youan until he is played regularly as an penalty box attacker rather than a touchline winger.

In the first half Gray had him somewhere in deep midfield. He looked lost. It doesn't help that the last three Head Coaches have been obsessed with wing play rather than playing through the centre circle and attacking the opposition box from the front.

We signed him as a forward and he's the only player in the team who is two footed and strong in the air.

Not sure what you watch sometimes. Gray had him in midfield…. Is that right yeah?

maturehibby
15-12-2024, 09:11 AM
At end was last off the pitch as he milked the fans clapping

HarpOnHibee
15-12-2024, 09:34 AM
We will never see the best of Elie Youan until he is played regularly as an penalty box attacker rather than a touchline winger

Been saying the same thing. He looks adrift out there on the wing and for a player with his finishing ability he's being limited to 4-5 goals a season when he could easily be a 20+ goal a season player. He should be going through the centre backs rather than wasting his energy on the opposition midfield.

GreenCastle
15-12-2024, 09:44 AM
There must be a transfer window coming up 😁

It’s going to be interesting to see what happens here - maybe he is playing for a transfer but he definitely looks happier and more of a team player.

Youan is a maverick when he plays like this and it was inevitable he would score yesterday when he plays like that.

The pass for the 3rd goal was excellent too.

I hope he stays - we need him and if he plays like this for rest of the season he will get a good move away in summer which gives us time to find a replacement.

Really don’t want to lose him in January.

Fans can moan all they want about him but we are a much better team with him in it and he’s the kind of player who can be unplayable in a derby so fingers crossed he’s the main man again on Boxing Day.

eastmainsmsh
15-12-2024, 10:51 AM
Excellent again

LaMotta
15-12-2024, 11:16 AM
If you’re a forward on either team you should be well up for that game.

Our defending today, basic stuff was comical at times. You know they will always give you a chance at some point. O’Hora obviously off injured as well.

They’re equally as bad and their best defender, Kent, looks like he’ll be out for a bit.

There are goals there for whoever wants them.

Aye could be a truly mental derby.

B.H.F.C
15-12-2024, 11:18 AM
Aye could be a truly mental derby.

Or the standard low quality, low scoring draw.

LaMotta
15-12-2024, 11:33 AM
Or the standard low quality, low scoring draw.

probably:hilarious

FilipinoHibs
15-12-2024, 06:44 PM
Coming back from a bad injury that took him out for months. Gradually getting up to full speed.

007
15-12-2024, 07:09 PM
Deserves great credit for his assist for the 3rd. I actually think it was better than if he'd had shot and scored because it was the correct decision. Perfectly weighted pass teed it up for Campbell.

LaMotta
15-12-2024, 08:33 PM
Watching Sportscene on iplayer, he's looking like the Youan of seasons gone by.

Although he totally switches off for the County goal allowing his man to score. I don't think he'll ever change on that front.

Unseen work
15-12-2024, 08:38 PM
Watching Sportscene on iplayer, he's looking like the Youan of seasons gone by.

Although he totally switches off for the County goal allowing his man to score. I don't think he'll ever change on that front.

We had everyone back and somehow still allowed county to play a short corner every time and get a free cross.

If you expect guys like Youan to mark big defenders and not concede chances then you’ll get wants coming to you.

Was there a period he marked the front 6 area? If not get him up the bark and offer a threat on the counter

Pretty Boy
15-12-2024, 08:38 PM
Just me who doesn't get all the chat about Youan being more suited to being a central or penalty box striker? He's a winger, all the best attributes he has are suited to being a winger and the times he has played centrally he has been far less effective that he has been when he plays wide.

LaMotta
15-12-2024, 08:48 PM
We had everyone back and somehow still allowed county to play a short corner every time and get a free cross.

If you expect guys like Youan to mark big defenders and not concede chances then you’ll get wants coming to you.

Was there a period he marked the front 6 area? If not get him up the bark and offer a threat on the counter

Agree the short corners were a joke that we didn't get wise to that, but the goal came from a direct corner not a short corner.

Youan was meant to be marking a guy that was an inch taller than him so a decent enough match. Aside from that I'd expect a player at amateur level to not switch off like that though - he just needs to get goal side of his man, but he completely loses him then just stands still - pretty basic. But we all know he isnt going to improve on stuff like that - If he gets us a goal and an assist then that outweighs things for the good.

LaMotta
15-12-2024, 08:50 PM
Just me who doesn't get all the chat about Youan being more suited to being a central or penalty box striker? He's a winger, all the best attributes he has are suited to being a winger and the times he has played centrally he has been far less effective that he has been when he plays wide.

I think he can be good in both roles. When Nisbet got injured under LJ Youan played through the middle for a run of games and got a decent goals return during that period. His one on one finishing around then was really good - think he is a good option there.

Unseen work
15-12-2024, 09:50 PM
Agree the short corners were a joke that we didn't get wise to that, but the goal came from a direct corner not a short corner.

Youan was meant to be marking a guy that was an inch taller than him so a decent enough match. Aside from that I'd expect a player at amateur level to not switch off like that though - he just needs to get goal side of his man, but he completely loses him then just stands still - pretty basic. But we all know he isnt going to improve on stuff like that - If he gets us a goal and an assist then that outweighs things for the good.

I think height wise then yeah it’s a decent match. I just think it’s mental having Youan marking a defender from a set piece.

Everyone knows he’s poor defensively and switches off, to have him making a key threat from a county corner is imo just stupid and asking for his opponent to score.

Get him in a zonal zone at most or just up the park

LaMotta
15-12-2024, 09:56 PM
I think height wise then yeah it’s a decent match. I just think it’s mental having Youan marking a defender from a set piece.

Everyone knows he’s poor defensively and switches off, to have him making a key threat from a county corner is imo just stupid and asking for his opponent to score.

Get him in a zonal zone at most or just up the park

agreed!!

Frazerbob
15-12-2024, 10:25 PM
Any idea what his celebration was about? Rolled up his sleeve and slapped his forearm. Noticed Danilo did the same when he scored in the cup final today.

RIP
16-12-2024, 12:48 AM
Just me who doesn't get all the chat about Youan being more suited to being a central or penalty box striker? He's a winger, all the best attributes he has are suited to being a winger and the times he has played centrally he has been far less effective that he has been when he plays wide.

He was signed as a striker.

He's more of a threat through the middle. Whenever he's in or near the box the opposition defence bricks it.

Remember the 2 goals he scored against Hearts?

He's completely unsuited to the touchline winger role. Let the Caddens take care of the flanks. We need Elie and Martin attacking the box head on.

That's where they are most effective. If need be they can drop short. The difference in the team second half when he was pushed up was like night and day from the first half.

PHeffernan
16-12-2024, 12:56 AM
Watching Sportscene on iplayer, he's looking like the Youan of seasons gone by.

Although he totally switches off for the County goal allowing his man to score. I don't think he'll ever change on that front.

At opposition corners Youan should be standing on the half way line which will require 2 opposition players to stay with him which would give us an extra man defending the corner.
Don't get dragging all our outfield players back for corners. Why do they do it? Just seems dumb to me.

CentreLine
16-12-2024, 02:01 AM
At opposition corners Youan should be standing on the half way line which will require 2 opposition players to stay with him which would give us an extra man defending the corner.
Don't get dragging all our outfield players back for corners. Why do they do it? Just seems dumb to me.

Totally with you there. Just don’t understand the logic of everyone back.

Bobby's Cinema
16-12-2024, 05:55 AM
Well done Elie and well done DG for sticking with him because we are going to need a Youan playing well.

Keep it up.

erin go bragh
16-12-2024, 06:01 AM
At opposition corners Youan should be standing on the half way line which will require 2 opposition players to stay with him which would give us an extra man defending the corner.
Don't get dragging all our outfield players back for corners. Why do they do it? Just seems dumb to me.

Does my head in. Really negative and makes no sense.

JimBHibees
16-12-2024, 06:05 AM
Just me who doesn't get all the chat about Youan being more suited to being a central or penalty box striker? He's a winger, all the best attributes he has are suited to being a winger and the times he has played centrally he has been far less effective that he has been when he plays wide.

Agree with that

JimBHibees
16-12-2024, 06:07 AM
Does my head in. Really negative and makes no sense.

Think alot of teams do that. Suppose the thinking is less likely to lose a goal. Important thing is everyone knows what they are doing and carries it out.

CapitalGreen
16-12-2024, 06:32 AM
Any idea what his celebration was about? Rolled up his sleeve and slapped his forearm. Noticed Danilo did the same when he scored in the cup final today.

“Ice in the veins”

A celebration popularised in American sports suggesting the individual is “cold-blooded” typically used when they have scored in a key moment and/or high pressure situation. https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/ice-in-my-veins-pose

BoomtownHibees
16-12-2024, 09:05 AM
Any idea what his celebration was about? Rolled up his sleeve and slapped his forearm. Noticed Danilo did the same when he scored in the cup final today.

Calling us all junkies

Carheenlea
16-12-2024, 09:15 AM
Calling us all junkies

:hilarious

SHODAN
16-12-2024, 12:33 PM
A player driven entirely by spite. I love him.

PHeffernan
16-12-2024, 12:41 PM
Think alot of teams do that. Suppose the thinking is less likely to lose a goal. Important thing is everyone knows what they are doing and carries it out.

It doesn't make sense to pull all outfield players back for corners.
If the defending team leave a player on the halfway line for opposition corners, two opposition players have to stay with him. Take away the corner taker and you then have a goalkeeper and 9 defending players marking only 7 attackers which is a 3 player numerical advantage (almost 50%) for the team defending the corner.

It makes even more sense for Hibs when the guy you leave up is Youan given his great ability in a breakaway and his total inability to stay with the guy he is marking.
When Campbell headed the ball in for Ross County his marker Youan was 5 yards off him and static in the position Campbell had been a second previously.
You see it in the following clip from Hibs coverage. At 46 seconds in Youan is marking Campbell when the corner comes in. Campbell reacts to what is happening and scores in the 47th second with Ellie still glued to his original spot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFdvFeijAeQ

Pretty Boy
16-12-2024, 12:45 PM
He was signed as a striker.

He's more of a threat through the middle. Whenever he's in or near the box the opposition defence bricks it.

Remember the 2 goals he scored against Hearts?

He's completely unsuited to the touchline winger role. Let the Caddens take care of the flanks. We need Elie and Martin attacking the box head on.

That's where they are most effective. If need be they can drop short. The difference in the team second half when he was pushed up was like night and day from the first half.

I remember the 2 goals he scored against Hearts well.

He played wide that day. Vente and Dodge, later replaced by Le Fondre, played as the central strikers.

Nicho87
16-12-2024, 12:54 PM
Youan - scored 1 and 1 assist
Gayle - scored 1 and 1 assist

Happy days

Still think we will dip in the market for another centre forward and could cut short big Mykos loan early

007
16-12-2024, 01:49 PM
Youan - scored 1 and 1 assist
Gayle - scored 1 and 1 assist

Happy days

Still think we will dip in the market for another centre forward and could cut short big Mykos loan early

Gayle should have had an assist but that was the pen missed by Cadden.

TrinityHFC
16-12-2024, 02:06 PM
He was signed as a striker.

He's more of a threat through the middle. Whenever he's in or near the box the opposition defence bricks it.

Remember the 2 goals he scored against Hearts?

He's completely unsuited to the touchline winger role. Let the Caddens take care of the flanks. We need Elie and Martin attacking the box head on.

That's where they are most effective. If need be they can drop short. The difference in the team second half when he was pushed up was like night and day from the first half.

When we signed him he was described as a ‘versatile forward player’.

wookie70
16-12-2024, 02:25 PM
Youan - scored 1 and 1 assist
Gayle - scored 1 and 1 assist

Happy days

Still think we will dip in the market for another centre forward and could cut short big Mykos loan early

Gayle has two goals and two assists.

Elie has a goal involvement(goal or assist) every 4.1 games
Gayle has a goal contribution every 0.8 games

I think both have been pretty poor but Gayle has been very effective in the games he has played and Elie far less so. He does seem to be finding form though and his early injury may have been the reason for his poor form along with the racists online

Nicho87
16-12-2024, 03:34 PM
Gayle should have had an assist but that was the pen missed by Cadden.

Cheers, got the pens the wrong way about

The fact he is contributing to meaningful goal opportunities I think is good

B.H.F.C
16-12-2024, 04:04 PM
Cheers, got the pens the wrong way about

The fact he is contributing to meaningful goal opportunities I think is good

Two goals and two assists in 285 minutes on the park for us.

Quality not in doubt. Get the ball to him in and around the box and he’ll make things happen even if he’s not overly involved in the game. Really need to hope we can keep him fit and available and it isn’t like the situation we ended up in with Le Fondre last season.

ian cruise
16-12-2024, 04:12 PM
You could see his delight when we scored the third, when VAR confirmed it and coming off at the end; any suggestion he doesn’t care is nonsense.

I think he almost cares too much, so when the fans aren't on side or it's not working out for him he reacts very poorly/loses confidence quickly, which happens in all walks of life. Interesting comment in the EEN about Obita reminding him that fan discontent is part of the game, which seems to have coincided with his form improving a bit. I suspect he's very much a player who needs an arm around the shoulder and plenty positive reenforcement to get the best out of him.

Great to see him playing well again, hopefully it's a good season for him.

Pretty Boy
16-12-2024, 04:22 PM
I think he almost cares too much, so when the fans aren't on side or it's not working out for him he reacts very poorly/loses confidence quickly, which happens in all walks of life. Interesting comment in the EEN about Obita reminding him that fan discontent is part of the game, which seems to have coincided with his form improving a bit. I suspect he's very much a player who needs an arm around the shoulder and plenty positive reenforcement to get the best out of him.

Great to see him playing well again, hopefully it's a good season for him.

You could see he was enjoying the adulation and applause both after his goal and again at the end of the game on Saturday.

I wonder if rather than being 'cocky' or 'arrogant' or any of the other similar descriptions used for him he is actually a wee bit insecure and needs that affirmation and praise to get the best out of him. He really seems to take criticism to heart so it stands to reason he will soak up praise in a similar way. I'm sure we have all encountered people like that in life, outwardly very confident, even brash, but deep down that isn't the case at all.

Paulie Walnuts
16-12-2024, 04:27 PM
Said it all season but he has to be playing every week.

By far our most talented player. Get him firing, we’ll stay up.

Phil MaGlass
17-12-2024, 12:53 PM
I have a feeling the timing of him coming onto his game will see him sold in January.

Smartie
17-12-2024, 12:58 PM
I have a feeling the timing of him coming onto his game will see him sold in January.

I agree.

At least his recent upturn in form should see us maximise what we make from the deal, and hopefully then replace him adequately.

Earlier in the season it had started to look like we might need (and want) to give him away.

I actually think his problems earlier in the season were mainly down to the injury he picked up at a terrible time re preparation for the new season. It’s taken him a bit of time to fully recover from that imo.

04Sauzee
17-12-2024, 06:45 PM
https://i.ibb.co/G3zttWN/Screenshot-20241217-194425.png (https://ibb.co/bRc22sD)

Unseen work
17-12-2024, 07:05 PM
https://i.ibb.co/G3zttWN/Screenshot-20241217-194425.png (https://ibb.co/bRc22sD)

Good player.

Get a new deal signed Elie, stay with us and win some cups and play in Europe.

JohnM1875
21-12-2024, 08:09 PM
'wants out'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfWAEtMXsAESChh?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

TrinityHFC
21-12-2024, 09:02 PM
'wants out'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfWAEtMXsAESChh?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Yep, again, some absolutely unwarranted nonsense spoken about him on here. Not just commenting on his form but questioning his professionalism and his personality. I don’t know what is in it for some people..

hibsbollah
21-12-2024, 09:08 PM
Yep, again, some absolutely unwarranted nonsense spoken about him on here. Not just commenting on his form but questioning his professionalism and his personality. I don’t know what is in it for some people..

Also note his first reaction on scoring was to point over at Boyle to credit him for the nice assist.

Nicho87
21-12-2024, 09:23 PM
Will rightfully get his move with continued effort, goals and assists

More importantly he is playing a smile on his face again. Not many teams will want to buy players that look like they come with baggage and an ego

Best thing hibs can do is get over £1million and go find the next younger raw talent

Unseen work
21-12-2024, 09:35 PM
He’s came back in the team and we’ve started scoring goals

No surprise imo

eastmainsmsh
21-12-2024, 10:10 PM
He told me himself his best position is up top its working long may Elie keep it going

Ribs1875
21-12-2024, 11:38 PM
I respect him for the way he has turned things around, he's certainly learned a lot in the past few months about himself. Long may it continue.

davym7062
22-12-2024, 12:10 AM
just give him the ball

maturehibby
22-12-2024, 12:00 PM
just give him the ball
Another Jason Cummings
Just scores goals
Don't recall Jason defending skills
Being one of his attributes .
Keep the goals coming and shut up the scrptics

lyonhibs
22-12-2024, 04:46 PM
Another Jason Cummings
Just scores goals
Don't recall Jason defending skills
Being one of his attributes .
Keep the goals coming and shut up the scrptics

Not sure what tune that's to but Youan and Cummings are very different players

speedy_gonzales
22-12-2024, 04:49 PM
Not sure what tune that's to but Youan and Cummings are very different players

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HarpOnHibee
22-12-2024, 04:54 PM
He's been better lately for sure, as has the team on a whole. Good to see him getting into more prominent attacking positions more. Still has some work to do on his decision making, but if he can do that, he'll be slotting them in for fun.

Paul1642
22-12-2024, 07:58 PM
Will rightfully get his move with continued effort, goals and assists

More importantly he is playing a smile on his face again. Not many teams will want to buy players that look like they come with baggage and an ego

Best thing hibs can do is get over £1million and go find the next younger raw talent

We have money. What we don’t have is an abundance of quality players who can change games like Youan can and £1 million is no guarantee of someone of equal or better ability (see £700k Dylan Vente).

Every player has a price and Youan’s not close to the region of £1 million. Try £2.5 million +

He’s only 25.

Bostonhibby
22-12-2024, 08:01 PM
Hope he stays, class performer recently especially through the middle.



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matty_f
22-12-2024, 08:56 PM
I think Gray deserves a huge amount of credit for how he's managed Youan this season, particularly when things were pretty bad. It looked for all the world that Youan's time was going to come to a pretty grim end here, arguing with fans, in and out the team and instead we now have him waving the corner flag about with the fans after scoring in a great win at Aberdeen.

marinello59
22-12-2024, 09:17 PM
I think Gray deserves a huge amount of credit for how he's managed Youan this season, particularly when things were pretty bad. It looked for all the world that Youan's time was going to come to a pretty grim end here, arguing with fans, in and out the team and instead we now have him waving the corner flag about with the fans after scoring in a great win at Aberdeen.

That’s a good point. Aye, both men deserve a lot of credit here.

Baader
22-12-2024, 10:33 PM
I think Gray deserves a huge amount of credit for how he's managed Youan this season, particularly when things were pretty bad. It looked for all the world that Youan's time was going to come to a pretty grim end here, arguing with fans, in and out the team and instead we now have him waving the corner flag about with the fans after scoring in a great win at Aberdeen.

Definitely. Credit to both. That's good man management from SDG. Media would probably have you believe the relationship between Elie and Hibs was over. There's a lot to be said for working through a situation like that and making it work. There's often usually a way if you work to turn it around.

Fergos
23-12-2024, 04:22 AM
I think Gray deserves a huge amount of credit for how he's managed Youan this season, particularly when things were pretty bad. It looked for all the world that Youan's time was going to come to a pretty grim end here, arguing with fans, in and out the team and instead we now have him waving the corner flag about with the fans after scoring in a great win at Aberdeen.

Same with how hes managed Boyle too….lets hope Saturdays version of MB is here to stay.

BoomtownHibees
23-12-2024, 08:26 AM
Just keep him happy and I reckon we’ve got one of the best players in the league

Souter96Mac
23-12-2024, 02:48 PM
Seen a clip of Geordies singing a chant about Tino Livramento, something similar for wor Elie:

I found my love,
I fell for him fast.
His name is Elie,
He's ****ing class.
He hates the jambos,
we hate them too.
Elie Youan is hibee through & through

HUTCHYHIBBY
23-12-2024, 03:11 PM
Youan is 10s for first scorer on Thursday, decent price if he continues on penalties too.

JimBHibees
24-12-2024, 11:38 AM
It doesn't make sense to pull all outfield players back for corners.
If the defending team leave a player on the halfway line for opposition corners, two opposition players have to stay with him. Take away the corner taker and you then have a goalkeeper and 9 defending players marking only 7 attackers which is a 3 player numerical advantage (almost 50%) for the team defending the corner.

It makes even more sense for Hibs when the guy you leave up is Youan given his great ability in a breakaway and his total inability to stay with the guy he is marking.
When Campbell headed the ball in for Ross County his marker Youan was 5 yards off him and static in the position Campbell had been a second previously.
You see it in the following clip from Hibs coverage. At 46 seconds in Youan is marking Campbell when the corner comes in. Campbell reacts to what is happening and scores in the 47th second with Ellie still glued to his original spot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFdvFeijAeQ

There are loads of teams that do it. All about stopping a goal

eastmainsmsh
24-12-2024, 02:21 PM
Youan is 10s for first scorer on Thursday, decent price if he continues on penalties too.

Double that with Devlin to be booked

HUTCHYHIBBY
24-12-2024, 04:53 PM
Double that with Devlin to be booked

Aye, he's usually about 12/5, quite a decent price.

I can see a red card happening on Thursday, not checked the price yet.

The Modfather
24-12-2024, 05:27 PM
I’d not be as keen as I was previously to cash in on Youan if there was an offer received given his recent form. More generally, there’s a touch of the Nisbet about his time with us. Looks like one of our best players but also goes long periods not contributing (be that form or unavailability).

Wouldn’t actively seek offers in January, but would in the summer and give Garvan Stuart the money to put towards more consistent players that will make us more than the sum of our parts.

HUTCHYHIBBY
26-12-2024, 07:53 AM
Youan is 10s for first scorer on Thursday, decent price if he continues on penalties too.

12.5/1 on Betfair Exchange now.

1875M
26-12-2024, 08:20 AM
Best player at the club and not even close. Let’s give credit to DG for handling this and getting him back involved when everyone thought his time was over. Keep this form until summer, give him a move, we get a few million, everyone’s happy.

I'm_cabbaged
26-12-2024, 09:13 AM
Best player at the club and not even close. Let’s give credit to DG for handling this and getting him back involved when everyone thought his time was over. Keep this form until summer, give him a move, we get a few million, everyone’s happy.

When is his contract up?

Since452
26-12-2024, 09:17 AM
When Youan plays well Hibs play well

hibsbollah
26-12-2024, 09:21 AM
When is his contract up?

End of next season.

I'm_cabbaged
26-12-2024, 10:03 AM
End of next season.

Cheers, thought it was at the end of this season. Was getting worried that we’d have to be punting him for peanuts in January

FilipinoHibs
26-12-2024, 10:18 AM
Coming back from a long lay off with a bad injury, gradually played himself in and now looking good back to hist best. Some fans expected miracles right away.

CentreLine
26-12-2024, 10:28 AM
Coming back from a long lay off with a bad injury, gradually played himself in and now looking good back to hist best. Some fans expected miracles right away.

Some fans (me for sure) expected him to come back fit and to be remotely interested. Everyone knows what a great talent he is and what he can do for the side. He’s, largely, showed up for three of the last four and I think he’ll be on fire today. I think he picks and chooses when to turn up and that’s my frustration with him. The flying the flag thing at Aberdeen was VERY encouraging.
I’d take the present version as first pick every week and be moving heaven as bd earth to get an extended contract signed. The head down version I’d like to see us pick up a decent fee for in January. I think he’d be happy with that too and on balance I think where the club will have to go.

TrinityHFC
26-12-2024, 10:32 AM
Some fans (me for sure) expected him to come back fit and to be remotely interested. Everyone knows what a great talent he is and what he can do for the side. He’s, largely, showed up for three of the last four and I think he’ll be on fire today. I think he picks and chooses when to turn up and that’s my frustration with him. The flying the flag thing at Aberdeen was VERY encouraging.
I’d take the present version as first pick every week and be moving heaven as bd earth to get an extended contract signed. The head down version I’d like to see us pick up a decent fee for in January. I think he’d be happy with that too and on balance I think where the club will have to go.

Mainly nonsense.

HarpOnHibee
26-12-2024, 10:36 AM
Mainly nonsense.

What are you like? :greengrin Hope he get's stuck right in today along with the rest of the team. Done exceptionally well lately and he'll have my backing if he plays his part.

https://i.ibb.co/sgpfjKT/Youan-Flag-Pole.png

CentreLine
26-12-2024, 10:39 AM
Mainly nonsense.

Mainly my opinion. You are welcome to have you’re own but one persons nonsense can actually be fair point to others. Merry Christmas Trinity ❤️

we are hibs
26-12-2024, 10:46 AM
Mainly nonsense.No need to sign off your posts mate

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blackpoolhibs
26-12-2024, 10:50 AM
No need to sign off your posts mate

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.Sean.
26-12-2024, 11:01 AM
No need to sign off your posts mate

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CentreLine
26-12-2024, 11:04 AM
No need to sign off your posts mate

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Why ever not? We’re all Hibees. Didn’t intend to make you feel uncomfortable, wasn’t a mistake. Spread the love Trinity

Albahibs
26-12-2024, 11:06 AM
Youan has an outstanding opportunity today to showcase his undoubted talent. Both him and Boyle turning it on are critical for us.

spike220
02-01-2025, 10:36 AM
Youan has an outstanding opportunity today to showcase his undoubted talent. Both him and Boyle turning it on are critical for us.

I like him too and want him to stay!

Greenio
02-01-2025, 11:24 AM
I think hes away in Jan

superfurryhibby
02-01-2025, 11:48 AM
Has there been any word on Youan's absence? Hopefully just a knock and he's back in today.

He's been good for us since he returned from injury. He needed games to recover sharpness and get match fit, this makes a big difference to performance levels.