The Turnaround

[wookie70]

Just watched the Netflix documentary, The Turnaround. I've always liked baseball and the fans seem to me to be quite close in terms of teh way they support their teams to us Scottish Football teams. I'll not give too much away but it is a tale of fan connection and sports psychology for me and it rings bells with Hibs and our players to me. At the moment I think anything is worth a try and perhaps the stands can maybe help out the players in the coming games.

[Jones28]

I do think there's an apathetic atmosphere surrounding everything at Hibs at the moment, as much as it would be great to roar the team on I think the fans really need to see some encouragement come from what happens on the pitch first.

I listened to the Celtic v RB Leipzig game on the radio a couple of weeks ago and the noise the Celtic fans generated after the Leipzig goal was quite impressive I have to admit.

Maybe it would be helpful if the players felt encouraged? But do they need to help the fans feel like encouraging them by showing some fight and heart first?

[Since452]

I do think there's an apathetic atmosphere surrounding everything at Hibs at the moment, as much as it would be great to roar the team on I think the fans really need to see some encouragement come from what happens on the pitch first.

I listened to the Celtic v RB Leipzig game on the radio a couple of weeks ago and the noise the Celtic fans generated after the Leipzig goal was quite impressive I have to admit.

Maybe it would be helpful if the players felt encouraged? But do they need to help the fans feel like encouraging them by showing some fight and heart first?

It's certainly the most apathetic I've felt and I've seen a lot of dross Hibs teams over the years. That's more to do with the running of the club over a number of years now leading to what we're seeing on the pitch. I often wonder if I'll only get that buzz back about Hibs when they clear off. Barely get excited about Hibs at all these days and defeats don't bother me as much as they once did. Maybe thats just getting older and having more interests/responsibilities outside football. Not sure.

[flash]

When we are crap on the park everything else becomes an issue.

When we are good on the park nobody cares about anything else.

Clearly that's an overly simplistic view but it's also pretty accurate.

[darwenhibby]

I have been to a few PSV games
What I was impressed with was when the team was under pressure or conceded a corner, the stadium would
Burst into “Cmon PSV C’mon PSV”
I thought how we kind of make the players nervous and go quiet at corners against us.
Just a different way of supporting the team when they need us!

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Just watched the Netflix documentary, The Turnaround. I've always liked baseball and the fans seem to me to be quite close in terms of teh way they support their teams to us Scottish Football teams. I'll not give too much away but it is a tale of fan connection and sports psychology for me and it rings bells with Hibs and our players to me. At the moment I think anything is worth a try and perhaps the stands can maybe help out the players in the coming games.

Potential spoiler here:

Difference is Trea Turner is one of the best Short Stops in the world, our current crop of players likely aren’t the best footballers in their street


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[Wheat Hound]

I liked SDG's rather spiky opening reply in today's presser to fat Jambo Brian. He looked like a determined man and he will get my full backing tomorrow in the hope of a turnaround.

[GreenPJ]

I liked SDG's rather spiky opening reply in today's presser to fat Jambo Brian. He looked like a determined man and he will get my full backing tomorrow in the hope of a turnaround.

:agree: He seemed determined and focused - here's hoping he can transfer that determination and belief into the players

[Roxyhibee]

When we are crap on the park everything else becomes an issue.

When we are good on the park nobody cares about anything else.

Clearly that's an overly simplistic view but it's also pretty accurate.

Spot on and I don’t think Directors and Chairpersons get this. If the team on the park are good to watch and getting results, the fans couldn’t care less if they’re selling chicken in a basket and Bass Special in hospitality. We go home hapoy, to work happy and all is well.

[andrew70]

I have been to a few PSV games
What I was impressed with was when the team was under pressure or conceded a corner, the stadium would
Burst into “Cmon PSV C’mon PSV”
I thought how we kind of make the players nervous and go quiet at corners against us.
Just a different way of supporting the team when they need us!

would help if the head coach would instruct us to leave one or two players up the pitch at corners.

give us hope and players to play off.

[Jock O]

would help if the head coach would instruct us to leave one or two players up the pitch at corners.

give us hope and players to play off.

This keeps coming up, and last time someone explained it quite well. Also having watched in last couple of games all teams have done it, like it or not it seems to be one of the current coaching trends.

Also like it or not, not sure we could name one game where it has actually had any impact on the game, can we?

[wookie70]

Potential spoiler here:

Difference is Trea Turner is one of the best Short Stops in the world, our current crop of players likely aren’t the best footballers in their street


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He is, but at the point the ovation was called for he was being described as the worst player in baseball. No-one would expect any Hibs player to be the best in the country at the moment but they are massively under performing and I think that is more to do with confidence which leads to players making mistakes and not taking chances. I don't think the squad would ever be world beaters but I am sure they are capable of top six. Something needs to click and maybe we can give it a helping hand.

[andrew70]

This keeps coming up, and last time someone explained it quite well. Also having watched in last couple of games all teams have done it, like it or not it seems to be one of the current coaching trends.

Also like it or not, not sure we could name one game where it has actually had any impact on the game, can we?

I watch a lot of football, from all over the world, there’s hardly any teams who leave no one up the park. That’s at all levels.

The fact we can’t play out and everyone is camped in our area makes playing football a lot harder.

I also coach and at no level of badge has the coaching points said to keep everyone back, quite the opposite.

It’s extremely negative.

We’ve conceded possession in many of our games and this is part of that tactic so I’d say it’s affected the majority of games we’ve played if not directly.

We need more positivity.

[Jock O]

I watch a lot of football, from all over the world, there’s hardly any teams who leave no one up the park. That’s at all levels.

The fact we can’t play out and everyone is camped in our area makes playing football a lot harder.

I also coach and at no level of badge has the coaching points said to keep everyone back, quite the opposite.

It’s extremely negative.

We’ve conceded possession in many of our games and this is part of that tactic so I’d say it’s affected the majority of games we’ve played if not directly.

We need more positivity.

So its just Scotland then? Have you applied for the Hibs job yet?

I suppose asking for a specific example when that cost us rather than us generally losing possession will sound petty?

[blackpoolhibs]

I have been to a few PSV games
What I was impressed with was when the team was under pressure or conceded a corner, the stadium would
Burst into “Cmon PSV C’mon PSV”
I thought how we kind of make the players nervous and go quiet at corners against us.
Just a different way of supporting the team when they need us!

Were you running a bus to the Hibs games and got lost and ended up in Holland. :wink:

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

He is, but at the point the ovation was called for he was being described as the worst player in baseball. No-one would expect any Hibs player to be the best in the country at the moment but they are massively under performing and I think that is more to do with confidence which leads to players making mistakes and not taking chances. I don't think the squad would ever be world beaters but I am sure they are capable of top six. Something needs to click and maybe we can give it a helping hand.

I know what you’re saying, but our Trea had shown he was capable of performing at the highest level time after time after time, he was outstanding for his country at the WBC before the 2023 season… the list goes on for reasons to be optimistic in regards to Trea Turner even after the slow start he had in Philly. The “worst player in baseball” chat was always hyperbole, I wouldn’t consider it hyperbole to say we’re the worst team in the league at the moment. I see no reason why a bit of positivity (in the same vein as “The S.O”) would change any of that with this current crop of players. We’re brutal and it’s not an issue of form imo, we’re just not a very good football team. Fully respect that you see it differently in terms of how good this team can be, but especially without Bowie we’re done for unless big changes happen in January.


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[ekhibee]

It's a complicated issue, fan support. I have always had my own reasons for supporting Hibs, others have completely different reasons, none of them less justifiable. I have noticed on this forum that there's quite a few people who only seem to comment when they disagree with a statement that somebody's made, then others seem to jump on the bandwagon. Debate is fine if your offering a different point of view, not just shooting down what somebody said without backing up your argument. The club is not in a good place at the moment and the team aren't playing well so there's bound to be plenty of negative comments floating about, and justifiably so, and the most dangerous thing of all, which I am really guilty of at the moment, apathy. A lot of people feel apathetic towards Hibs just now, and others seem more interested in scoring petty points rather than offering alternative arguments. That in itself is a form of apathy. Just my point of view.

[darwenhibby]

Were you running a bus to the Hibs games and got lost and ended up in Holland. :wink:

Ha Ha
You and your fancy Lancashire friends are such characters

[Keith_M]

I've got no idea if they still do it but fans of Rapid Vienna used start cheering and singing at home games, pretty much the whole stadium, at exactly 75 minutes... the idea being to push the team on when they might be tiring.

Considering how many goals we concede after75 minutes, it might be an idea to start playing our home games in the Allianz Stadion. Their fans wouldn't notice the difference, seeing as they play in green as well.