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Donegal Hibby
22-11-2024, 01:27 PM
I thought at the time Bournemouth had treated Gary O’Neil harshly in dismissing for Iraola though in truth it’s a move that seems to have paid off for them …

having watched Bournemouth on numerous occasions at home to Newcastle, Southampton, Arsenal ,Man City and it certainly isn’t an easy place to go to even for the big boys of the premier league..

I watched this and found it interesting in the different approaches both O’Neil and Iraola had/have and how Iraola has them playing now which while not possession based is working for them and quite good to watch. Maybe something for us to look at and maybe learn from with our partnership with them now possibly? …..

https://youtu.be/IKrqFPI-VtU?si=zDkc2z5ePokPbRV0

Badge
22-11-2024, 07:02 PM
I think that its interesting that it’s been over 5 hours since you made this post and nobody has responded. It would appear that you seem to be changing your thinking as far as our style of play is concerned. Previously you were backing the manager and felt that performances were good but it was down to bad luck and poor decisions that meant we were losing games and found ourselves bottom of the league. Are you now saying that the manager’s tactics are to be questioned and may well be part of the reason we are where we are. I really find it quite confusing reading your posts as you don’t post after a defeat and your 8/10 marking for recruitment was somewhat strange.

Not In The Know
22-11-2024, 07:33 PM
Possession based football is only a worth considering if you have significantly better players than the opposition.

average players pressed by average players can’t keep the ball.

Donegal Hibby
22-11-2024, 08:58 PM
I think that its interesting that it’s been over 5 hours since you made this post and nobody has responded. It would appear that you seem to be changing your thinking as far as our style of play is concerned. Previously you were backing the manager and felt that performances were good but it was down to bad luck and poor decisions that meant we were losing games and found ourselves bottom of the league. Are you now saying that the manager’s tactics are to be questioned and may well be part of the reason we are where we are. I really find it quite confusing reading your posts as you don’t post after a defeat and your 8/10 marking for recruitment was somewhat strange.

I posted it cause I thought it was interesting and might interest other posters , if it doesn’t there’s no harm done ..is there? .

No not really , I like to watch teams play good football as I do Hibs too . I can appreciate there’s different styles , formations etc that can achieve this rather than being playing hoof ball.

I do generally back most managers as I believe in seeing them being given time , might not always work out though that’s what I normally like to see clubs and Hibs do…

Previous managers have had good results as well as bad ones . I think both our previous managers have had some really poor decisions against us that has cost us points which is the same thing as it being down to bad luck , no? … latest one was against Dundee utd btw ! .

As to Gray I just thought it was interesting that it mentioned on the podcast the 4-2-3-1 formation that we have played quite a bit and maybe there was something we could Learn or tweak while playing it ..

It wasn’t me criticising the manager as I’m still backing him even though I accept he needs some results soon..

I genuinely thought with the players we moved on in the summer and the ones we took in the quality of the squad had improved though that’s not worked out the way I had hoped . Btw I didn’t give everyone a 8/10 which is a bit of an exaggeration though in hindsight I probably was overly generous with my ratings which one or two of you are frequently bringing up in having a dig …

All very strange much like somebody telling me that reading my posts confuse them that I don’t post after a defeat:confused:…


Reason I don’t post much after a defeat is I don’t see any enjoyment in it as it normally turns into a go at the club which doesn’t interest me .. 👍

Jones28
22-11-2024, 09:09 PM
Would love us to adopt a really ballsy style of play. Get in the faces, break away fast, really give it a go. Give Dundee 60% possession tomorrow if it means scoring some goals.

blackpoolhibs
22-11-2024, 09:10 PM
I posted it cause I thought it was interesting and might interest other posters , if it doesn’t there’s no harm done ..is there? .

No not really , I like to watch teams play good football as I do Hibs too . I can appreciate there’s different styles , formations etc that can achieve this rather than being playing hoof ball.

I do generally back most managers as I believe in seeing them being given time , might not always work out though that’s what I normally like to see clubs and Hibs do…

Previous managers have had good results as well as bad ones . I think both our previous managers have had some really poor decisions against us that has cost us points which is the same thing as it being down to bad luck , no? … latest one was against Dundee utd btw ! .

As to Gray I just thought it was interesting that it mentioned on the podcast the 4-2-3-1 formation that we have played quite a bit and maybe there was something we could Learn or tweak while playing it ..

It wasn’t me criticising the manager as I’m still backing him even though I accept he needs some results soon..

I genuinely thought with the players we moved on in the summer and the ones we took in the quality of the squad had improved though that’s not worked out the way I had hoped . Btw I didn’t give everyone a 8/10 which is a bit of an exaggeration though in hindsight I probably was overly generous with my ratings which one or two of you are frequently bringing up in having a dig …

All very strange much like somebody telling me that reading my posts confuse them that I don’t post after a defeat:confused:…


Reason I don’t post much after a defeat is I don’t see any enjoyment in it as it normally turns into a go at the club which doesn’t interest me .. 👍

You posted your opinion on the new players without them playing much football, and the 8/10 for the summer signings looks way off after we have had the time to assess them not just guess.

HarpOnHibee
22-11-2024, 09:12 PM
Possession based football is only a worth considering if you have significantly better players than the opposition.

average players pressed by average players can’t keep the ball.

Even then, it's not necessary the most optimal way for some teams to play, regardless of how good their players are. Organization off the ball and efficiency on the ball can be far more important factors in winning games over simply having more of the ball. Sitting back and allowing the opposition to commit more men forward can allow for some devastating counter attacking opportunities. Unfortunately we appear to be the team that over commits, allows the opposition to sit in deep and damage us on the counter. I wouldn't mind seeing us play it their way for a change. Letting them come at us and catching them out on the counter when they push too many forward.

HarpOnHibee
22-11-2024, 09:13 PM
Would love us to adopt a really ballsy style of play. Get in the faces, break away fast, really give it a go. Give Dundee 60% possession tomorrow if it means scoring some goals.

Exactly this. :aok:

We don't need to "look in control" in order to win games. Allow the opposition to think they're in control, then hurt them on the break when they over commit. That's what they've been doing to us.

Donegal Hibby
22-11-2024, 09:46 PM
You posted your opinion on the new players without them playing much football, and the 8/10 for the summer signings looks way off after we have had the time to assess them not just guess.

I think I had four or five down as excellent signings who were probably the 8/10s .. two we had before and from what I seen of Bowie I still think long term he will prove to be a cracking signing too …

Some of the others with being to enthusiastic I was overly generous with my ratings which you and the other poster like to point out repeatedly..

Others like Cadden , Ekpiteta , Kwon etc I watched on utube ,looked at their previous clubs forums or asked some folk about one in particular…

Your right in it does look a long way off now from me being optimistic about our signings now which is unacceptable …

what times the firing squad at 🫣

blackpoolhibs
22-11-2024, 10:09 PM
I think I had four or five down as excellent signings who were probably the 8/10s .. two we had before and from what I seen of Bowie I still think long term he will prove to be a cracking signing too …

Some of the others with being to enthusiastic I was overly generous with my ratings which you and the other poster like to point out repeatedly..

Others like Cadden , Ekpiteta , Kwon etc I watched on utube ,looked at their previous clubs forums or asked some folk about one in particular…

Your right in it does look a long way off now from me being optimistic about our signings now which is unacceptable …

what times the firing squad at 🫣

Folk who are too negative get slated, you said everything was good when you had no evidence, maybe best to have a look at what we've signed before being so daft with the ratings. 11.30pm.:greengrin

hibsbollah
22-11-2024, 10:25 PM
I think I had four or five down as excellent signings who were probably the 8/10s .. two we had before and from what I seen of Bowie I still think long term he will prove to be a cracking signing too …

Some of the others with being to enthusiastic I was overly generous with my ratings which you and the other poster like to point out repeatedly..

Others like Cadden , Ekpiteta , Kwon etc I watched on utube ,looked at their previous clubs forums or asked some folk about one in particular…

Your right in it does look a long way off now from me being optimistic about our signings now which is unacceptable …

what times the firing squad at 🫣

Dont stop doing what you’re doing, i enjoy your posts.


Plus there are some prominent posters on this forum that have made far worse predictions than you, they just havent been called out on it, perhaps because negativity sells better :greengrin

matty_f
22-11-2024, 10:53 PM
Dont stop doing what you’re doing, i enjoy your posts.


Plus there are some prominent posters on this forum that have made far worse predictions than you, they just havent been called out on it, perhaps because negativity sells better :greengrin

Same here, ****ing mental how eager folk are to chase folk for wanting to be positive about the club they support.

FWIW, I reckon about 90-95% of my predictions are miles off.

JohnM1875
22-11-2024, 10:59 PM
Same here, ****ing mental how eager folk are to chase folk for wanting to be positive about the club they support.

FWIW, I reckon about 90-95% of my predictions are miles off.

Think it works both ways to be honest. It pisses the 'positive' folk off when posters come on to vent after a defeat and it pisses the 'negative' folk off when people seem to back the club regardless of the current situation.

I'll always be buzzing by the Thursday before a game, but I can see both sides.

HoboHarry
22-11-2024, 11:17 PM
Think it works both ways to be honest. It pisses the 'positive' folk off when posters come on to vent after a defeat and it pisses the 'negative' folk off when people seem to back the club regardless of the current situation.

I'll always be buzzing by the Thursday before a game, but I can see both sides.
I don't have an issue with posters being negative after a defeat in of itself, it's the relentless hysterical rants from the usual suspects that gets tedious.

HoboHarry
22-11-2024, 11:18 PM
Same here, ****ing mental how eager folk are to chase folk for wanting to be positive about the club they support.

FWIW, I reckon about 90-95% of my predictions are miles off.
And the other 21% are wrong.



😁

JohnM1875
22-11-2024, 11:19 PM
I don't have an issue with posters being negative after a defeat in of itself, it's the relentless hysterical rants from the usual suspects that gets tedious.

The rants probably follow a defeat though nah? Or a consistent downturn in form. I don't think we have many posters on here who are outright negative without reason.

As much as Matty doesn't get folk questioning or pulling up positivity I equally don't get folk pulling posters up for being negative, especially after the past few years.

matty_f
23-11-2024, 12:46 AM
The rants probably follow a defeat though nah? Or a consistent downturn in form. I don't think we have many posters on here who are outright negative without reason.

As much as Matty doesn't get folk questioning or pulling up positivity I equally don't get folk pulling posters up for being negative, especially after the past few years.

I think it’s a false equivalence - in a forum of Hibs supporters, I think you’d expect to see a more natural tendency to support/defend the club than to attack it, and hardly anyone is being pulled up for being negative about the club just now because we’re garbage.

Donegal doesn’t even get chased for being positive, it’s for being optimistic, as far as I can see. Peevemor used to get it tight for the same thing.

But to my point, in a forum where we’re here to talk about something we all profess to like, it’s natural that folk would want to stick up for the club against what they might feel is unwarranted abuse (not valid criticism, of which there is plenty at the moment).

JohnM1875
23-11-2024, 12:53 AM
I think it’s a false equivalence - in a forum of Hibs supporters, I think you’d expect to see a more natural tendency to support/defend the club than to attack it, and hardly anyone is being pulled up for being negative about the club just now because we’re garbage.

Donegal doesn’t even get chased for being positive, it’s for being optimistic, as far as I can see. Peevemor used to get it tight for the same thing.

But to my point, in a forum where we’re here to talk about something we all profess to like, it’s natural that folk would want to stick up for the club against what they might feel is unwarranted abuse (not valid criticism, of which there is plenty at the moment).

But I think the vast majority of this forum is, at the very worst neutral though. Certainly given the state we're in at the moment.

Granted the majority of thread titles are negative, but when you open and start reading then It's generally neutral at worst nah?

I personally can see both sides of the argument. Don't think I've ever been in limbo about how I feel about Hibs as I am now. I hate thinking about Hibs from about 5pm Saturday to 8am Thursday lately. Then I shake it off and I'm buzzing for the game again.

matty_f
23-11-2024, 01:59 AM
But I think the vast majority of this forum is, at the very worst neutral though. Certainly given the state we're in at the moment.

Granted the majority of thread titles are negative, but when you open and start reading then It's generally neutral at worst nah?

I personally can see both sides of the argument. Don't think I've ever been in limbo about how I feel about Hibs as I am now. I hate thinking about Hibs from about 5pm Saturday to 8am Thursday lately. Then I shake it off and I'm buzzing for the game again.

I think most of us are feeling like that - but nobody is having a go at us for it.

Centre Hawf
23-11-2024, 07:18 AM
Dont stop doing what you’re doing, i enjoy your posts.


Plus there are some prominent posters on this forum that have made far worse predictions than you, they just havent been called out on it, perhaps because negativity sells better :greengrin

I said i'd rather have Joe Newell than Dylan McGeouch only about 6 months ago at most and since then he's done everything in his power to mug me off on that.

The Modfather
23-11-2024, 07:37 AM
I think it’s a false equivalence - in a forum of Hibs supporters, I think you’d expect to see a more natural tendency to support/defend the club than to attack it, and hardly anyone is being pulled up for being negative about the club just now because we’re garbage.

Donegal doesn’t even get chased for being positive, it’s for being optimistic, as far as I can see. Peevemor used to get it tight for the same thing.

But to my point, in a forum where we’re here to talk about something we all profess to like, it’s natural that folk would want to stick up for the club against what they might feel is unwarranted abuse (not valid criticism, of which there is plenty at the moment).

Generally, I find the relentless positivity as draining as the relentless negativity. The forum works best when things are judged on merit alongside a proclivity to either naturally lean towards being a glass half full of half empty outlook to life. I don’t enjoy posts/posters (not yourself Matty) that are fundamentally “time to defend/criticise the club, now what’s the actual subject being discussed”

Haymaker
23-11-2024, 07:45 AM
I don't have an issue with posters being negative after a defeat in of itself, it's the relentless hysterical rants from the usual suspects that gets tedious.It's those weapons who post :hyper and bang on about Leigh Griffiths that piss me off the most.

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hibsbollah
23-11-2024, 07:49 AM
I said i'd rather have Joe Newell than Dylan McGeouch only about 6 months ago at most and since then he's done everything in his power to mug me off on that.

I can top that; after Pa Kujabi's debut I professed that we had definitely found ourselves a player:agree: Pride definitely comes before a fall, one of the reasons why we watch sport is its unpredictable, most of its just educated guesswork, even with modern analytics. Even Pros and coaches misjudge players all the time.

Mattys point above about false equivalency is spot-on; being relentlessly positive is more in keeping with the concept of being a supporter than being relentlessly negative. Thankfully most of us are somewhere in between.

hibsbollah
23-11-2024, 07:51 AM
It's those weapons who post :hyper and bang on about Leigh Griffiths that piss me off the most.

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worcesterhibby
23-11-2024, 08:12 AM
I’m all for positivity me. I generally don’t post unless I’ve got something positive to say. Slagging Hibs off “in public” feels like criticising my own family, so I rarely post after a defeat. I didn’t want us to appoint Gray as manager, but since we have I will try to last as long as possible before I start calling for his head. That’s just me.. not a judgement on others. To be honest I generally feel very guilty if I put Hibs down for a loss on the prediction thread!

J-C
23-11-2024, 08:37 AM
Nothing wrong with positivity when merited, the same with negativity, it's the relentless ones that no matter how the team plays, they have a dig at the club at every opportunity.

BoomtownHibees
23-11-2024, 09:34 AM
I said i'd rather have Joe Newell than Dylan McGeouch only about 6 months ago at most and since then he's done everything in his power to mug me off on that.

That is a shocker tbf

Centre Hawf
23-11-2024, 09:54 AM
That is a shocker tbf

There was a lot more context to my point than just boiling it down to that one line but right now it's totally indefensible so I won't even bother and just take it on the chin.

Mark05
23-11-2024, 10:13 AM
I think a lot of us are frustrated at the moment. So there's more negativity, I watched the Scotland game against Croatia and I found it strange celebrating a win it's been that long.I like to think I'm a positive person, but I've found it a tough watch this season, hopefully like Scotland we will turn the corner as well.Hopefully David Gray is the man to do it,I suppose we will find out soon

danhibees1875
23-11-2024, 02:34 PM
1-0 Brighton, 4 minutes.

:greengrin

Paul1642
23-11-2024, 02:38 PM
1-0 Brighton, 4 minutes.

:greengrin

Our proxy derby

Donegal Hibby
23-11-2024, 02:52 PM
Folk who are too negative get slated, you said everything was good when you had no evidence, maybe best to have a look at what we've signed before being so daft with the ratings. 11.30pm.:greengrin

Evidence I had was two players we already had ….another one that before getting injured had impressed me and probably had other fans too …

I was on the St Mirren forum and spoke to numerous Celtic’s fans here about Kwon.. went on different forums about N.Cadden and had seen him play with different clubs and went on the other forums including the Blackpool one about Ekpiteta which either seeing them play , hearing or reading which was generally positive about these players ..

Maybe optimistically over enthusiastic with some of my ratings though I still think with the squad we have are in a false position and are underachieving this season . As somebody said before which I agree with I think if you offered most clubs five of our players outside the old firm they’d jump at the chance to sign them …

As to making daft ratings / predictions I think most fans do at times tbh including myself…having scrolled back on the Hibs Net to Jack Ross’s time I seen many post when things weren’t great where the football we were playing was getting called out as dire , awful etc etc and it seemed some fans weren’t happy about it and…

Yet on the last few occasions when we have been looking for a manager some including yourself have been adamant that McInnes was the man we should go for while ignoring the fact his teams can be dire to watch which isn’t a myth but an actual fact ! If we hit a bad run under him this would imo be a stick used against him pretty quickly ….

Folk want to be negative and look to have a go at the club at every opportunity that’s their prerogative though it’s not for me …

If it annoys you , badge and a another certain poster I suggest you just put me on ignore and hopefully you will be a bit happier rather than feeling the need to have wee digs every now and again …


I know I will be too :greengrin

Badge
23-11-2024, 05:52 PM
Evidence I had was two players we already had ….another one that before getting injured had impressed me and probably had other fans too …

I was on the St Mirren forum and spoke to numerous Celtic’s fans here about Kwon.. went on different forums about N.Cadden and had seen him play with different clubs and went on the other forums including the Blackpool one about Ekpiteta which either seeing them play , hearing or reading which was generally positive about these players ..

Maybe optimistically over enthusiastic with some of my ratings though I still think with the squad we have are in a false position and are underachieving this season . As somebody said before which I agree with I think if you offered most clubs five of our players outside the old firm they’d jump at the chance to sign them …

As to making daft ratings / predictions I think most fans do at times tbh including myself…having scrolled back on the Hibs Net to Jack Ross’s time I seen many post when things weren’t great where the football we were playing was getting called out as dire , awful etc etc and it seemed some fans weren’t happy about it and…

Yet on the last few occasions when we have been looking for a manager some including yourself have been adamant that McInnes was the man we should go for while ignoring the fact his teams can be dire to watch which isn’t a myth but an actual fact ! If we hit a bad run under him this would imo be a stick used against him pretty quickly ….

Folk want to be negative and look to have a go at the club at every opportunity that’s their prerogative though it’s not for me …

If it annoys you , badge and a another certain poster I suggest you just put me on ignore and hopefully you will be a bit happier rather than feeling the need to have wee digs every now and again …


I know I will be too :greengrin
Oh dear.
Maybe just stick to other clubs forums.

Donegal Hibby
23-11-2024, 06:02 PM
Oh dear.
Maybe just stick to other clubs forums.

Nah .. I’ll stick to the one of the club I support that has many decent , knowledgeable posters … And just ignore the odd one that falls into a entirely different category.

Badge
23-11-2024, 07:14 PM
Nah .. I’ll stick to the one of the club I support that has many decent , knowledgeable posters … And just ignore the odd one that falls into a entirely different category.

Which category do you think you fall into? Knowledgeable or entirely different?

Donegal Hibby
23-11-2024, 07:18 PM
Which category do you think you fall into? Knowledgeable or entirely different?

One that’s just decided to ignore you … :bye:

18Craig75
26-01-2025, 07:44 AM
Another amazing performance from Bournemouth. Looking good for Europe. Hopefully BKFC’s influence at Hibs starts to grow, soon!

Lancs Harp
26-01-2025, 10:35 AM
Another amazing performance from Bournemouth. Looking good for Europe. Hopefully BKFC’s influence at Hibs starts to grow, soon!

Wiped the floor with Newcastle, followed up by giving a very inform Nottm Forest a hammering, they have been very very impressive, also considering an awful lot of players currently unavailable due to injuries. The Cherries play Liverpool next week that should be a cracker.

bingo70
26-01-2025, 10:46 AM
Wiped the floor with Newcastle, followed up by giving a very inform Nottm Forest a hammering, they have been very very impressive, also considering an awful lot of players currently unavailable due to injuries. The Cherries play Liverpool next week that should be a cracker.

Can’t be long until the big boys in Spain and England start to try and target Iraola, unbelievable job he’s doing there.

matty_f
26-01-2025, 11:05 AM
They’ve been brilliant, and look very much like a club who know what they’re doing. They’ve been happy to spend money on the right players and their recruitment has been excellent on the face of it - players who fit their system really well and a coach that has coached the system very well.

From a BKFC point of view, I think they’re on track to deliver exactly what they said they would and have gone about it in a way that (from what I can tell) has largely kept their fans onside with their plans.

Lago
26-01-2025, 11:17 AM
They’ve been brilliant, and look very much like a club who know what they’re doing. They’ve been happy to spend money on the right players and their recruitment has been excellent on the face of it - players who fit their system really well and a coach that has coached the system very well.

From a BKFC point of view, I think they’re on track to deliver exactly what they said they would and have gone about it in a way that (from what I can tell) has largely kept their fans onside with their plans.
Watch the game live yesterday, fabulous football, Foley doing for Bournemouth what he did for his Las Vegas ice hockey team, making them winners, hopefully his influence will increase at Hibs and produce similar results. 🤞

matty_f
26-01-2025, 11:35 AM
Watch the game live yesterday, fabulous football, Foley doing for Bournemouth what he did for his Las Vegas ice hockey team, making them winners, hopefully his influence will increase at Hibs and produce similar results. 🤞

It certainly makes me question the wisdom of not going all in with these guys from the outset. It seems to be that we have the opportunity to use resources and know how well beyond what we have and the apparent decision to put blockers in place early on to the point that BKFC threatened to withdraw altogether seems incredible folly.

Paulie Walnuts
26-01-2025, 11:41 AM
They look absolutely excellent. There was somebody on here recently saying BKFC weren’t successful at Bournemouth and I’m fairly sure the argument was essentially that they’re not top of the league.

If Bournemouth can get themselves into Europe then they’ll have had an absolutely superb season.

matty_f
26-01-2025, 11:46 AM
They look absolutely excellent. There was somebody on here recently saying BKFC weren’t successful at Bournemouth and I’m fairly sure the argument was essentially that they’re not top of the league.

If Bournemouth can get themselves into Europe then they’ll have had an absolutely superb season.
These things are all relative and relatively speaking Bournemouth are doing brilliantly and i find it hard to make a case for them being anything other than successful.

Eyrie
26-01-2025, 02:48 PM
These things are all relative and relatively speaking Bournemouth are doing brilliantly and i find it hard to make a case for them being anything other than successful.

The equivalent for us would be finishing third and/or winning a cup.

The former is very do-able when you consider the standard of competition and the latter just needs a little luck to deal with the Ugly Sisters.

badabing67
26-01-2025, 03:14 PM
These things are all relative and relatively speaking Bournemouth are doing brilliantly and i find it hard to make a case for them being anything other than successful.


Yes, but just watch this space. If we do qualify for Europe I bet we get them at the group qualify stage and they horse us right out. It would be such a Hibs thing to happen.

offshorehibby
26-01-2025, 03:58 PM
The talk at the start of the season was the BK's were not happy with our choices of DoF and manager and that Hibs weren't listening to them. I wonder if their thoughts have changed regarding SDG.

number9dream
26-01-2025, 05:29 PM
Iraola is such an impressive manager. Ryan Christie playing out of his skin in that deeper, central role. Okay, Scotland are not press monsters like Bournemouth but surely Clarke should be thinking of pairing him with Gilmour instead of relying on McLean as McGregor’s replacement.

Lago
26-01-2025, 06:02 PM
The talk at the start of the season was the BK's were not happy with our choices of DoF and manager and that Hibs weren't listening to them. I wonder if their thoughts have changed regarding SDG.
I doubt it

NC1875
01-02-2025, 07:06 AM
https://apple.news/AuDL1cirzT2qtn7FCxDJIXQ

Good article hear I read this morning on Bournemouth and there style of play under Iraola.

Paulie Walnuts
01-02-2025, 07:45 AM
I doubt it

Ordinarily I’d have said I’d have expected them to. But having seen how they dealt with the Garry O’Neill situation, I’m not convinced results, short of being absolutely out of this world, will change their mind.

If they have someone in mind, it would have to take something monumental to get them to get that idea out their head I reckon.

J-C
01-02-2025, 08:55 AM
Ordinarily I’d have said I’d have expected them to. But having seen how they dealt with the Garry O’Neill situation, I’m not convinced results, short of being absolutely out of this world, will change their mind.

If they have someone in mind, it would have to take something monumental to get them to get that idea out their head I reckon.

They don't own Hibs yet, just a share, I don't know if they have the right to change manager themselves, it'll be a board decision.

bingo70
01-02-2025, 09:01 AM
They don't own Hibs yet, just a share, I don't know if they have the right to change manager themselves, it'll be a board decision.

They are in control.

They might only have 25% but Hibs approached them for money and were told only if they start doing things BK’s way.

Foley said that in a recent interview.

They wouldn’t be able to take control if there wasn’t a willingness from Hibs side to give them it but there is.

I don’t think that necessarily means Gray is a gonner but he’ll have to be on board with everything the BK’s want. That’s not necessarily a bad thing and there’s worse people Gray could be learning from.

Donegal Hibby
01-02-2025, 09:58 AM
They don't own Hibs yet, just a share, I don't know if they have the right to change manager themselves, it'll be a board decision.

:agree: they are still a minority shareholder .

CropleyWasGod
01-02-2025, 10:18 AM
They don't own Hibs yet, just a share, I don't know if they have the right to change manager themselves, it'll be a board decision.


:agree: they are still a minority shareholder .

They have 2 people on the Board, though. As Board members, they have the right and ability to lead on certain issues, and running the football side is clearly their core remit.

In that light, the size of their shareholding is irrelevant. In a Board meeting, all votes are equal.

Donegal Hibby
01-02-2025, 10:33 AM
They have 2 people on the Board, though. As Board members, they have the right and ability to lead on certain issues, and running the football side is clearly their core remit.

In that light, the size of their shareholding is irrelevant. In a Board meeting, all votes are equal.

Which is a good thing in everyone has a say , doesn’t mean they don’t for having a small share or are in control as suggested either .. it seems a good set-up as it is which hopefully everyone will work together for the greater good ...

What my concerns would be is if Foley ever owned us and there wasn’t another party and the running of Hibs was purely on what he wanted .

7Hero
01-02-2025, 12:18 PM
What my concerns would be is if Foley ever owned us and there wasn’t another party and the running of Hibs was purely on what he wanted .

It will happen though, it's only a matter of time, the minute the rules change and Foley can get control, the Gordon's will be away.

Lago
01-02-2025, 12:32 PM
Ordinarily I’d have said I’d have expected them to. But having seen how they dealt with the Garry O’Neill situation, I’m not convinced results, short of being absolutely out of this world, will change their mind.

If they have someone in mind, it would have to take something monumental to get them to get that idea out their head I reckon.
Totally agree, Garry O'Neil is a perfect example of their mind set.

Donegal Hibby
01-02-2025, 12:48 PM
It will happen though, it's only a matter of time, the minute the rules change and Foley can get control, the Gordon's will be away.

I agree that it will probably happen at some point and even though as a fan there’s nothing I can do about it I don’t like the way football is going in wealthier clubs buying up other clubs as reserves teams for their benefit which is why I’m hoping the league doesn’t change the rules or the Gordon’s don’t leave for a good few years yet .

Paulie Walnuts
01-02-2025, 01:22 PM
They have 2 people on the Board, though. As Board members, they have the right and ability to lead on certain issues, and running the football side is clearly their core remit.

In that light, the size of their shareholding is irrelevant. In a Board meeting, all votes are equal.

:agree:

It’s 5 on the board, isn’t it? The two Gordon’s, Bill Foley and Ryan Caswell and the new CEO will go on it. Giving them 40% as it stands.

If they lead on the recruitment of the new CEO (I don’t think we’ve announced either way who’s doing that?) then we may well be approaching a point where the two board members and the new CEO who is potentially the BKFCs man gives them the majority say without owning the majority of the club.

CropleyWasGod
01-02-2025, 04:40 PM
:agree:

It’s 5 on the board, isn’t it? The two Gordon’s, Bill Foley and Ryan Caswell and the new CEO will go on it. Giving them 40% as it stands.

If they lead on the recruitment of the new CEO (I don’t think we’ve announced either way who’s doing that?) then we may well be approaching a point where the two board members and the new CEO who is potentially the BKFCs man gives them the majority say without owning the majority of the club.

There are 11 on the Board currently, with presumably the new CEO to come. 7 are non-execs, who will lead on whatever they bring to the Board.

I am guessing here, but the BK guys seem to be leading on football stuff.

Paulie Walnuts
01-02-2025, 05:27 PM
There are 11 on the Board currently, with presumably the new CEO to come. 7 are non-execs, who will lead on whatever they bring to the Board.

I am guessing here, but the BK guys seem to be leading on football stuff.

I presume the non execs don’t get a vote?

CropleyWasGod
01-02-2025, 05:36 PM
I presume the non execs don’t get a vote?

They do. That's what i meant earlier about 1 vote for each member.

They don't get a wage, though :greengrin

TrinityHFC
01-02-2025, 06:19 PM
I presume the non execs don’t get a vote?

They do but there will not generally be many decision being made at Board level. We have an executive team that run the club day to day.