Our Football Structure

[Winston Ingram]

Does anyone know exactly what it is and what exactly each role entails and who is responsible for what? Is there a structure chart anywhere?

From what I understand we have…

Malky Mackay - Sporting Director
David Marshall - Director of Performance

We also had Derek White who was Head of Football Operations and Calvin Charlton who was Head of Technical Recruitment.

We also appear to have some bloke called Garven Stewart coming in.

Am I missing anyone?

[ruthven_raiders]

Does anyone know exactly what it is and what exactly each role entails and who is responsible for what? Is there a structure chart anywhere?

From what I understand we have…

Malky Mackay - Sporting Director
David Marshall - Director of Performance

We also had Derek White who was Head of Football Operations and Calvin Charlton who was Head of Technical Recruitment.

We also appear to have some bloke called Garven Stewart coming in.

Am I missing anyone?

Not sure what the current structure is, but it's all changing, CEO, DOF etc being changed, using BK recruitment analysis at last!...not sure why they didn't decide to change manager unless it's to give them some breathing space to find a replacement....

[Trinity Hibee]

Does anyone know exactly what it is and what exactly each role entails and who is responsible for what? Is there a structure chart anywhere?

From what I understand we have…

Malky Mackay - Sporting Director
David Marshall - Director of Performance

We also had Derek White who was Head of Football Operations and Calvin Charlton who was Head of Technical Recruitment.

We also appear to have some bloke called Garven Stewart coming in.

Am I missing anyone?

Would be a great question for HSL to ask this week.

[Winston Ingram]

Would be a great question for HSL to ask this week.

I think so too as I’m sure all are very expensive and doing a rank rotten job.

[Alfred E Newman]

It’s not a structure, it’s a circus.

[MelbourneHibees]

Leading Sponsorship Company- Head of Staff Retention

[HendoDelivered]

It’s not a structure, it’s a circus.

😂😂😂 this.

[ancient hibee]

Not sure what the current structure is, but it's all changing, CEO, DOF etc being changed, using BK recruitment analysis at last!...not sure why they didn't decide to change manager unless it's to give them some breathing space to find a replacement....

Don’t think so.

[ruthven_raiders]

Don’t think so.

Well there you go, looking at all the posts on here and twitter and I still don't know what the **** is going on, except that I've wasted well over a £1k on season tickets for my family to endure the worst football I've seen in my 50 years of watching Hibs lmao

[Stuart93]

I will say I’d be a bit more positive if Garvan Stewart came in as our head of recruitment

[lyonhibs]

It’s not a structure, it’s a circus.

Quite. A mate sent me a link about some member of the blazers moving on, and I'd never heard of him. The number of faceless and seemingly unaccountable corporate suits milling around the gaff is one of the reasons there's such a fundamental disconnect between Hibs the club and the fans.

***** teams I can stomach and have done so before. But a spineless and completely myopic board/corporate management team is a bit less easy to shrug off

[Tyler Durden]

Does anyone know exactly what it is and what exactly each role entails and who is responsible for what? Is there a structure chart anywhere?

From what I understand we have…

Malky Mackay - Sporting Director
David Marshall - Director of Performance

We also had Derek White who was Head of Football Operations and Calvin Charlton who was Head of Technical Recruitment.

We also appear to have some bloke called Garven Stewart coming in.

Am I missing anyone?


I'm all for slating the club for years of under performance and the current shambles we find ourselves in. But I don't think we're particularly bloated staff wise, or radically different from our rivals.......or how we've been structured in the last 10 years.

David Marshall is not a Director of anything. He is "Technical Performance Manager" and we don't know what he's paid. There is nothing to suggest it'll be anything close to what he was paid as a player for example.

You have the following who will all report into Malky Mackay.

* Gareth Evans - head of Academy
* TBC - revised head of recruitment (if Calvin Charlton is moved on as seems to be the case)
* David Gray - first team head coach


I really don't get all the posts/tweets this week from people saying stuff like "What does Mackay do?" "Why do we need Mackay now that we're getting the Bournemouth recruitment guy?" etc.

We wanted Mackay to overhaul things and improve the performance. We have now removed Calvin Charlton who was integral to the recruitment. And we're taking more input from the Black Knights. Which arguably should have happened much quicker. But let's be fair here, Mackay has only been here for 5/6 months. He's got rid of Derek White aswell, albeit that is an admin role which we clearly gave an overly inflated title.

It's fine if folk don't agree with SDG being appointed. That's a different argument. But our structure is pretty clear, much as it was when we had George Craig and Graeme Mathie. And pretty much the same as Hearts or Aberdeen's are.

[Crab apple]

A big failure for me is that we don't seem to be bringing any youngsters into the first team squad. Is that because they aren't good enough,in which case what's happening at East Mains. Or is it because we have so many experienced players that there is no opportunity to bring them into the first team squad.

[Tyler Durden]

Also just my guess here, but I'd imagine this Garven Stewart will come in short term. Almost a secondment to come in and review how things are done, share their BK's best practice and help restructure our recruitment to match that.

Maybe existing staff will support there, maybe we bring someone new in. Would not expect he's coming to Hibs full time long term.

[Brightside]

I'm all for slating the club for years of under performance and the current shambles we find ourselves in. But I don't think we're particularly bloated staff wise, or radically different from our rivals.......or how we've been structured in the last 10 years.

David Marshall is not a Director of anything. He is "Technical Performance Manager" and we don't know what he's paid. There is nothing to suggest it'll be anything close to what he was paid as a player for example.

You have the following who will all report into Malky Mackay.

* Gareth Evans - head of Academy
* TBC - revised head of recruitment (if Calvin Charlton is moved on as seems to be the case)
* David Gray - first team head coach


I really don't get all the posts/tweets this week from people saying stuff like "What does Mackay do?" "Why do we need Mackay now that we're getting the Bournemouth recruitment guy?" etc.

We wanted Mackay to overhaul things and improve the performance. We have now removed Calvin Charlton who was integral to the recruitment. And we're taking more input from the Black Knights. Which arguably should have happened much quicker. But let's be fair here, Mackay has only been here for 5/6 months. He's got rid of Derek White aswell, albeit that is an admin role which we clearly gave an overly inflated title.

It's fine if folk don't agree with SDG being appointed. That's a different argument. But our structure is pretty clear, much as it was when we had George Craig and Graeme Mathie. And pretty much the same as Hearts or Aberdeen's are.

Spot on. Very good post.

[TrinityHFC]

Also just my guess here, but I'd imagine this Garven Stewart will come in short term. Almost a secondment to come in and review how things are done, share their BK's best practice and help restructure our recruitment to match that.

Maybe existing staff will support there, maybe we bring someone new in. Would not expect he's coming to Hibs full time long term.

Interesting given the views here about who should work on recruiting players Stewart has essentially been an analyst who also did a course. Something certain people at Hibs were being mocked for.

[The Tubs]

Interesting given the views here about who should work on recruiting players Stewart has essentially been an analyst who also did a course. Something certain people at Hibs were being mocked for.

I suppose learning the ropes from experienced managers, proven track record, having his work validated by others and years of experience give him a slight edge of Ian Gordon.

[we are hibs]

Interesting given the views here about who should work on recruiting players Stewart has essentially been an analyst who also did a course. Something certain people at Hibs were being mocked for.

Presumably he would've had to prove himself rather than given a job because he's the owners son.

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[DarlingtonHibee]

It’s not a structure, it’s a circus.

That's really positive ☺️

[Hibiza]

That's really positive ☺️

True thou imho

[Jock O]

I'm all for slating the club for years of under performance and the current shambles we find ourselves in. But I don't think we're particularly bloated staff wise, or radically different from our rivals.......or how we've been structured in the last 10 years.

David Marshall is not a Director of anything. He is "Technical Performance Manager" and we don't know what he's paid. There is nothing to suggest it'll be anything close to what he was paid as a player for example.

You have the following who will all report into Malky Mackay.

* Gareth Evans - head of Academy
* TBC - revised head of recruitment (if Calvin Charlton is moved on as seems to be the case)
* David Gray - first team head coach


I really don't get all the posts/tweets this week from people saying stuff like "What does Mackay do?" "Why do we need Mackay now that we're getting the Bournemouth recruitment guy?" etc.

We wanted Mackay to overhaul things and improve the performance. We have now removed Calvin Charlton who was integral to the recruitment. And we're taking more input from the Black Knights. Which arguably should have happened much quicker. But let's be fair here, Mackay has only been here for 5/6 months. He's got rid of Derek White aswell, albeit that is an admin role which we clearly gave an overly inflated title.

It's fine if folk don't agree with SDG being appointed. That's a different argument. But our structure is pretty clear, much as it was when we had George Craig and Graeme Mathie. And pretty much the same as Hearts or Aberdeen's are.

Totally agree with this.

[Heedersnvolleys]

The new guy coming from Bournemouth for recruitment which I think we would all agree it has been poor but that suggests the recruitment is selecting the wrong recruits but it will not going to address the problem that we seem to end up having to go for our 2nd, 3rd or 4th choice

[Tyler Durden]

The new guy coming from Bournemouth for recruitment which I think we would all agree it has been poor but that suggests the recruitment is selecting the wrong recruits but it will not going to address the problem that we seem to end up having to go for our 2nd, 3rd or 4th choice

That’s a myth. Was Vente our 3rd choice? Or Dylan Levitt? Ekpiteta?

[Winston Ingram]

I'm all for slating the club for years of under performance and the current shambles we find ourselves in. But I don't think we're particularly bloated staff wise, or radically different from our rivals.......or how we've been structured in the last 10 years.

David Marshall is not a Director of anything. He is "Technical Performance Manager" and we don't know what he's paid. There is nothing to suggest it'll be anything close to what he was paid as a player for example.

You have the following who will all report into Malky Mackay.

* Gareth Evans - head of Academy
* TBC - revised head of recruitment (if Calvin Charlton is moved on as seems to be the case)
* David Gray - first team head coach


I really don't get all the posts/tweets this week from people saying stuff like "What does Mackay do?" "Why do we need Mackay now that we're getting the Bournemouth recruitment guy?" etc.

We wanted Mackay to overhaul things and improve the performance. We have now removed Calvin Charlton who was integral to the recruitment. And we're taking more input from the Black Knights. Which arguably should have happened much quicker. But let's be fair here, Mackay has only been here for 5/6 months. He's got rid of Derek White aswell, albeit that is an admin role which we clearly gave an overly inflated title.

It's fine if folk don't agree with SDG being appointed. That's a different argument. But our structure is pretty clear, much as it was when we had George Craig and Graeme Mathie. And pretty much the same as Hearts or Aberdeen's are.

Is it? I’d love to see it if you have it handy. Also, it be fantastic if you could share this clarity on what these roles entail.

What’s the difference between a Sporting Director and Head of Football Operation which we ran with for 5 months. What does a Technical Perfomance Manager do?

[overdrive]

Interesting given the views here about who should work on recruiting players Stewart has essentially been an analyst who also did a course. Something certain people at Hibs were being mocked for.

I know you are meaning IG but it’s exactly the route Calvin Charlton took. Match analyst > recruitment analyst > head of technical recruitment. In fact if you look at their LinkedIn they’ve both been at most of the same clubs.

[Heedersnvolleys]

That’s a myth. Was Vente our 3rd choice? Or Dylan Levitt? Ekpiteta?

Was Triantis our first choice? Was Bursik, I hope not!!! Even Myko I don’t think was top of the list

[ian cruise]

Was Triantis our first choice? Was Bursik, I hope not!!! Even Myko I don’t think was top of the list

ITK posters have confirmed Triantis and Myko were high up Gray's list and we needed to wait for them to be made available.

[Stuart93]

ITK posters have confirmed Triantis and Myko were high up Gray's list and we needed to wait for them to be made available.

I think you’re right.

Which shows SDG’s eye for a player. Frightening

[ian cruise]

I think you’re right.

Which shows SDG’s eye for a player. Frightening

I think it's just another prime example of how his lack of experience is holding both him and us back. He goes with what he knows but his non playing experience has been with under performing players and teams, in a league full of decent but rarely outstanding journeymen and grafters.

Feel like I'm always having a go at Gray there days, it's not pleasant.

[Donegal Hibby]

Nectar Triantis …..


https://x.com/HibsSpotlight/status/1791203528096051612

https://x.com/HibsSpotlight/status/1830651910895890822

He’s 21/ 22 years old …. Potential?

[Jock O]

Nectar Triantis …..


https://x.com/HibsSpotlight/status/1791203528096051612

https://x.com/HibsSpotlight/status/1830651910895890822

He’s 21/ 22 years old …. Potential?


He has loads of potential from what I have seen, will turn out to be a decent player in his current position, maybe not in EPL, but probably at higher standard than us.

Another one the boo boys can't wait to get their teeth into just for fun.

[Winston Ingram]

Nectar Triantis …..


https://x.com/HibsSpotlight/status/1791203528096051612

https://x.com/HibsSpotlight/status/1830651910895890822

He’s 21/ 22 years old …. Potential?

He's clearly a player. We've got lots of good players in this squad but very few are showing it.

[Tyler Durden]

Was Triantis our first choice? Was Bursik, I hope not!!! Even Myko I don’t think was top of the list

Clearly we're not always gonna get our first choice. But that is the same at literally any club - it's not a Hibs issue and not something we're somehow worse at, than our rivals.

God knows what the story was with identifying Bursik, that should be a sacking offence on it's own.

[blackpoolhibs]

We dont need loan players who might be good in a year or two, we need good players now, players that are good now will make us better, not Sunderland better in a year or two.

[Tyler Durden]

Is it? I’d love to see it if you have it handy. Also, it be fantastic if you could share this clarity on what these roles entail.

What’s the difference between a Sporting Director and Head of Football Operation which we ran with for 5 months. What does a Technical Perfomance Manager do?

Do you think football clubs publish internal structure charts on their websites? Like most other teams, Hibs list the main roles.

You can find all this information with a few basic searches, as I'm sure you're aware.

Head of Football Ops, was a jumped up admin role. Similar to a club secretary, which was the role Derek White performed at Livvy before we hired him. He would not be getting paid a particularly high salary.

MM as Sporting Director is responsible for the full football operation, recruitment, academy, player pathways, first teams. David Marshall supports Mackay, which was outlined when he started the role.

Hopefully that helps your confusion :aok:

[Winston Ingram]

Do you think football clubs publish internal structure charts on their websites? Like most other teams, Hibs list the main roles.

You can find all this information with a few basic searches, as I'm sure you're aware.

Head of Football Ops, was a jumped up admin role. Similar to a club secretary, which was the role Derek White performed at Livvy before we hired him. He would not be getting paid a particularly high salary.

MM as Sporting Director is responsible for the full football operation, recruitment, academy, player pathways, first teams. David Marshall supports Mackay, which was outlined when he started the role.

Hopefully that helps your confusion :aok:

I can't find these which is why I asked. We used to have it on the website but as it's not there, I thought asking on a Hibs fans forum would be a good start.

What is a jumped up admin role? It's seems strange that we'd poach a file shuffler from Livi and then pay peanuts.

I've done a basic admin search on Derek White (https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekwhite2000/). Found his LinkedIn profile and his duties look miles away from sending the odd email and shuffling a few paper clips. To add to that, post latest 'review', he was promoted from Head of Operations to Director of Operations 2 months ago.

I've done another search on Malky Mackay (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/may/14/malky-mackay-appointed-sporting-director/) and his job is to 'oversee Hibernian FC’s entire football operation' which seems to pretty much what Derek White was doing.

So it's not helped clear any confusion in the slightest. It's muddied and miles away from clear.

[WestStandWillie]

We dont need loan players who might be good in a year or two, we need good players now, players that are good now will make us better, not Sunderland better in a year or two.

Nail on head.

[MikeyS]

I can't find these which is why I asked. We used to have it on the website but as it's not there, I thought asking on a Hibs fans forum would be a good start.

What is a jumped up admin role? It's seems strange that we'd poach a file shuffler from Livi and then pay peanuts.

I've done a basic admin search on Derek White (https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekwhite2000/). Found his LinkedIn profile and his duties look miles away from sending the odd email and shuffling a few paper clips. To add to that, post latest 'review', he was promoted from Head of Operations to Director of Operations 2 months ago.

I've done another search on Malky Mackay (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/may/14/malky-mackay-appointed-sporting-director/) and his job is to 'oversee Hibernian FC’s entire football operation' which seems to pretty much what Derek White was doing.

So it's not helped clear any confusion in the slightest. It's muddied and miles away from clear.

The post White got initially 2 years ago was under £30k a year when he started. Dunno what his rise would have been after the title change but it wouldn't have been huge. Hibs appear particularly poor payers for non playing staff judging by prev job adverts.

He definitely didn't have any major influence at the club but the jib he was doing is definitely crucial as it was booking hotels for away matches, SFA dealings with bookings/registrations and player induction assistance like house hunting, cars etc.

I've heard particularly weird things about him but he or his work performance had no bearing on the mess we find ourselves in on the park.

[Brightside]

He has loads of potential from what I have seen, will turn out to be a decent player in his current position, maybe not in EPL, but probably at higher standard than us.

Another one the boo boys can't wait to get their teeth into just for fun.

He will be a decent player at CB in due course. He is not a CM at any level above where we are floundering right now.

[B.H.F.C]

I can't find these which is why I asked. We used to have it on the website but as it's not there, I thought asking on a Hibs fans forum would be a good start.

What is a jumped up admin role? It's seems strange that we'd poach a file shuffler from Livi and then pay peanuts.

I've done a basic admin search on Derek White (https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekwhite2000/). Found his LinkedIn profile and his duties look miles away from sending the odd email and shuffling a few paper clips. To add to that, post latest 'review', he was promoted from Head of Operations to Director of Operations 2 months ago.

I've done another search on Malky Mackay (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/may/14/malky-mackay-appointed-sporting-director/) and his job is to 'oversee Hibernian FC’s entire football operation' which seems to pretty much what Derek White was doing.

So it's not helped clear any confusion in the slightest. It's muddied and miles away from clear.

I don’t think Derek White was doing anything remotely similar to what Malky McKay does. He looked after the administration side of things for the first team, organised all their transport and accommodation, dealt with the SFA for registrations, suspensions, that type of thing. It was an admin role.

[Brightside]

I don’t think Derek White was doing anything remotely similar to what Malky McKay does. He looked after the administration side of things for the first team, organised all their transport and accommodation, dealt with the SFA for registrations, suspensions, that type of thing. It was an admin role.

If you read Derek Whytes job spec on LinkedIn you'd think he ran the club. But he was just a wee slaver who carried a laptop around. Nothing more than an Admin manager in the real world.

[Winston Ingram]

If you read Derek Whytes job spec on LinkedIn you'd think he ran the club. But he was just a wee slaver who carried a laptop around. Nothing more than an Admin manager in the real world.

Was he lying about his job titles?

[Tyler Durden]

I can't find these which is why I asked. We used to have it on the website but as it's not there, I thought asking on a Hibs fans forum would be a good start.

What is a jumped up admin role? It's seems strange that we'd poach a file shuffler from Livi and then pay peanuts.

I've done a basic admin search on Derek White (https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekwhite2000/). Found his LinkedIn profile and his duties look miles away from sending the odd email and shuffling a few paper clips. To add to that, post latest 'review', he was promoted from Head of Operations to Director of Operations 2 months ago.

I've done another search on Malky Mackay (https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/may/14/malky-mackay-appointed-sporting-director/) and his job is to 'oversee Hibernian FC’s entire football operation' which seems to pretty much what Derek White was doing.

So it's not helped clear any confusion in the slightest. It's muddied and miles away from clear.

The key roles and the Board make up are all on the website.

Not sure why you'd think that re Derek White. He reported to the first team coach (aswell as Kensell) and as others have explained, his salary would be in region of £30k. It was a club secretary type role.

You know what Mackay's job is so not really sure why you want to feign confusion on this.

[Brightside]

Was he lying about his job titles?

They are just titles...I work with a guy that is a VP of Operations. The reality is he's a team leader of an admin group.

[Jock O]

Was he lying about his job titles?

Maybe not the titles but everyone inflates their LkdIn profile, but other than his contract management line, the rest were pretty standard football admin tasks, inflate the job title and you can expect them to work much harder than you are paying them for, standard American corporate practice.

I worked in Barclays where we had about 70 in area, 67 VP's 2 directors and one managing directors! Titles are still for some reason attractive to baldy males striving for success.

[Winston Ingram]

Maybe not the titles but everyone inflates their LkdIn profile, but other than his contract management line, the rest were pretty standard football admin tasks, inflate the job title and you can expect them to work much harder than you are paying them for, standard American corporate practice.

I worked in Barclays where we had about 70 in area, 67 VP's 2 directors and one managing directors! Titles are still for some reason attractive to baldy males striving for success.


Barclays had about 150k employees. Hibs probably have nearer 150. He was promoted from Head of Football Operations to Director of Football Operations. There was only one of them

[CapitalGreen]

Barclays had about 150k employees. Hibs probably have nearer 150. He was promoted from Head of Football Operations to Director of Football Operations. There was only one of them

He said in his post he was referring to his specific department in Barclays that had 70 employees.

[Broken Gnome]

A reason why the structure has changed of late:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scottish-premiership/article-14083743/Hibs-director-football-operations-Derek-White-quit-Easter-Road-club-month-allegations-inappropriate-behaviour.html

[Jock O]

He said in his post he was referring to his specific department in Barclays that had 70 employees.

That's exactly what I was saying, thanks.

Not often people can't hear me, but lots choose not to mind :greengrin:greengrin

[Jock O]

A reason why the structure has changed of late:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/scottish-premiership/article-14083743/Hibs-director-football-operations-Derek-White-quit-Easter-Road-club-month-allegations-inappropriate-behaviour.html

Jesus Christ, just what we need at the moment, look forward to the 30 page thread figuring out where the blame can be apportioned to the various managers now.

I should have known, its already started, we really cannot do anything right at the moment behind the scenes