We need to hold our nerve

[Spike Mandela]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

[Winston Ingram]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

You hold yer nerve if you want. It's not going to stop us going down.

[Spike Mandela]

You hold yer nerve if you want. It's not going to stop us going down.

Guess I'll not see you in the trenches then.:greengrin:wink:

[Winston Ingram]

Guess I'll not see you in the trenches then.:greengrin:wink:

Not with these clowns leading us that's for sure. :greengrin

[Unseen work]

I think the not so bad is what concerns me more.

We 100% should have more points on the board. But we don’t, we continuously concede late and soft goals and don’t look like changing.

We have players and fans moaning, players getting sent off, players missing pens, key players just not performing.

It will take an absolutely massive upturn in form and results for me to think we’re not getting relegated. When we’re back from the break I think we need 7 points from Dundee, Aberdeen and Motherwell. No chance we’ll get that

[flash]

I will continue to support the team on the park.

If we can make it safely through this season, and I know that's a big if right now, I think the club will be unrecognisable from the current shambles come the start of next season.

[Trinity Hibee]

I think the not so bad is what concerns me more.

We 100% should have more points on the board. But we don’t, we continuously concede late and soft goals and don’t look like changing.

We have players and fans moaning, players getting sent off, players missing pens, key players just not performing.

It will take an absolutely massive upturn in form and results for me to think we’re not getting relegated. When we’re back from the break I think we need 7 points from Dundee, Aberdeen and Motherwell. No chance we’ll get that

And there lies the problem, we all know we aren’t getting much if anything from next few games yet the board are sticking to their guns

[greenpaper55]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

Agreed, 100 per cent .

[Pretty Boy]

I don't think Gray has come under any real pressure in the ground yet. The ire seems very much aimed upstairs and unless there is a collective amnesia gripping the fans I think most will remember we have been here before with this shower running the club and that is shaping their actions towards the manager. The fans were singing his name at 2-0 down on Saturday only moments after telling Kensell and Mackay to GTF. I suppose that may have been a Solskjaer after his last Man United game scenario of 'we know it's over, no hard feelings have a send off and a song as recognition of what you have done for us before' (although that evidently isn't the case at Hibs now, yet anyway).

I'll continue to support the team because it's what we have. Just yesterday I bought tickets for Dundee away and I sat it out until the bitter end on Saturday when many others had long sacked it (and that isn't a dig, I don't blame them one bit). I don't think it's realistic to believe that the frustration isn't going to continue to bubble away though. There are more than a handful of players in this squad who specialise in getting managers sacked and they are going to bear the brunt of the frustration, particularly if they keep showing the performance levels too many of them have.

[Contador]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

Agree with this 100%. Desperate to see SDG succeed in the role. It’s painful to watch/listen to his post match interviews.

Undoubtedly we have been nowhere near good enough and he is having to learn on the job but I don’t believe we are as bad as the table reflects - albeit the squad is miles away from being a top 6 side which is where we should be minimum.

I think the heat quite rightly needs to remain on the board, but we need to stick behind the team and see how the next few months pan out, its a different story if we end up cut adrift however.

Tricky fixtures to come before January which is the worry.

[Stuart93]

I will continue to support the team on the park.

If we can make it safely through this season, and I know that's a big if right now, I think the club will be unrecognisable from the current shambles come the start of next season.

We were meant to be unrecognisable from the shambles that finished last season.

Mind you, we are, we’re even worse

[Bostonhibby]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

There's a lot in here that I'd normally naturally say is right as a supporter of my club and I'd have no problem signing up to it if I could separate the board and structure around our club from the problems themselves but I can't.

Much of what you reasonably point to in the first part is all part of football/Scottish football, I'd genuinely like to think the team is just unlucky and everything else that goes with it, especially if the board and those behind the scenes are just not getting the breaks, but we are victims of a cultural malaise where folk steering the ship have collectively convinced themselves they know what they are doing.

They probably impress each other in their daily interactions and there's a belief, even all this time later that they aren't headed to an iceberg even though they've already hit it.

I find it hard to translate my natural instinct to back the team to backing the current version of the club as it might further encourage the current gang above and around the manager to carry on creating the next mess.

We've backed the club through worse but in those days there was a collectivism, a recognition of what the problem was, here the problem is at the wheel and not looking like letting go.

Sorry for drawing the non football part into this but couldn't separate the two to make my point.

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

Not with these clowns leading us that's for sure. :greengrin

We’ll support you ever more and that - the team that wouldn’t die.

My happy clapper membership like others has been deferred but we’re in it together (or not)

[Springbank]

Holding our nerve is never the priority

Implementing standards, that's the priority

Do whatever it takes, including the shock of binning off a few exemplary Bad Eggs, to show this club is serious

That would leave a smaller squad, with slightly less quality (on paper) but with a better collective attitude, commitment, focus & level of professionalism

That will reap rewards and - crucially - it is about setting standards, levels, expectations

[easty]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

The fact we aren't getting hammered doesn't mean a thing really.

If you look at Livi last season, first half of the season, they lost by a goal to Aberdeen, Hibs, St Mirren, Dundee, Hearts. Drew with St Mirren due to losing a 90th min equaliser. Lost 2-0 to Dundee due to 2 goals in the last 8 mins.

It's points that keep you up, and we're not getting them, just like Livi didn't. They had 2 more points than we do after 12 games...and they were an absolutely terrible side.

[flash]

We were meant to be unrecognisable from the shambles that finished last season.

Mind you, we are, we’re even worse

Being a shambles is the most recognisable trait we have most years.

[blackpoolhibs]

I will continue to support the team on the park.

If we can make it safely through this season, and I know that's a big if right now, I think the club will be unrecognisable from the current shambles come the start of next season.

We just need a little patience. :pray:

[flash]

We just need a little patience. :pray:

I get your point but it's either give up or bash on.

I can't give up on Hibs so option B it is.

[Spike Mandela]

We just need a little patience. :pray:

I know you are being sarcastic Blackpool but it's not about patience. Every club and fan is impatient for success.

At the appointment of every manager the perceived wisdom is that the manager has to be given time and the board needs to stick by them. Yet, here we are, 12 games in and all the noise is sack this one and sack that one.

All I am suggesting is that collectively we follow our own advice, take a deep breath and hold our nerve here. We need to turn the sob stories, narrow defeats and draws into wins. .Easier said than done but not impossible.

[ChuckNor]

Possibly the most sensible post on here. We can't change the squad that we have right now. We need to try and back them and get those elusive wins over the line. The season is far from over. A good run (admittedly looking very unlikely) could have us back challenging for the top six again.

Gray deserves our respect. The men above him? Keep your anger for them. This is all on them.

[Stuart93]

Possibly the most sensible post on here. We can't change the squad that we have right now. We need to try and back them and get those elusive wins over the line. The season is far from over. A good run (admittedly looking very unlikely) could have us back challenging for the top six again.

Gray deserves our respect. The men above him? Keep your anger for them. This is all on them.

Na it’s not all on them.

Gray’s not ready.

There’s no tactics in our play and team selections are a lottery every week. Constant chopping and changing.

This is as much on Gray as it is on anyone else.

As for “continue to back them” shouts, that’s all the fans ever do and it’s made absolutely no difference. This is entirely on the team and management team to turn up this time, that would make a nice change.

[TrinityHFC]

And there lies the problem, we all know we aren’t getting much if anything from next few games yet the board are sticking to their guns

If everyone and anyone at the club are really as bad as most people on here think then what do you think the board can do now that will make any difference to the next few games?

Another change of coaching team and magically everyone will be great?

[Paulie Walnuts]

If everyone and anyone at the club are really as bad as most people on here think then what do you think the board can do now that will make any difference to the next few games?

Another change of coaching team and magically everyone will be great?

You do realise there’s an enormous middle ground between the absolute garbage we’ve watched this season and everyone being great?

[Smartie]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

I'm with you.

For those who are pointing out (correctly) that our next few fixtures are difficult ones - what makes you think that a new, experienced manager who may know nothing about our squad or our opponents' would be more likely to get anything out of those games than David Gray, other than faith in the mythical "new manager bounce" that is only ever a temporary relief?

Personally, I think it needs to be a classic case of reverse engineering - figure out where we need to realistically be in 3 years' time. Work our way back from there to decide what we need to do today. If that includes shifting the current head coach then so be it. But there isn't room for any more "emotional reaction today" and "see where it takes us" because that is an approach that is taking us backwards at a rate of knots.

[Stuart93]

I'm with you.

For those who are pointing out (correctly) that our next few fixtures are difficult ones - what makes you think that a new, experienced manager who may know nothing about our squad or our opponents' would be more likely to get anything out of those games than David Gray, other than faith in the mythical "new manager bounce" that is only ever a temporary relief?

An experienced manager might know how to actually set his team up?

Might also implement some kind of style of play?

Might try and stick with a more settled starting 11 instead of picking names out a hat?

There’s nothing to suggest an experienced coach would do better but there’s everything to suggest that Gray isn’t going to do any better.

[Albahibs]

Similarly to the vast majority of Hibs fans, first and foremost I want desperately to see Sir David Gray not only begin to get points on the board, to steer us away from the threat of relegation, but also in the long term, become a successful Hibs manager.

The problem for me is that, instead of sending out his team on Saturday to get up and at them from the first minute against St Mirren, with energy and gusto, get on the front foot quickly and to get in front against a team we should be better than, especially at home, we lacked urgency, devoid of energy, and it was St Mirren who showed the attributes that we should have. When unbelievably we allowed them to quite comfortably forge ahead into a two goal cushion, I was utterly deflated. It was the worst start to a match from a Hibs team I've seen for some considerable years. Frankly, it was dire from a team that should have been playing their hearts out for their manager and fans.

Even I, as a hard-line defender of Sir David Gray, thought his time as manager, had to have reached its sad end in abject failure. However, the board have set out their position, that they will remain patient, and trust that Sir David Gray can turn the situation around. My personal faith that the situation can be transformed, was severely dented, by the sluggish, apathetic, lazy, and pathetic first half in particular display on Saturday. It was dreadful from a team that should have been the exact opposite of how they actually performed.

Of course, I will still back the Hibs, as always, but that match on Saturday, was indicative of a team that looks less and less likely to lead us away from the bottom of the table. Things will have to change rapidly on the field, by way of results, if the Board and Sir David Gray expect even the die-hard supporters to continue attending without venting their spleen.

[WhileTheChief..]

What difference does it make?

My thought on the club/players/manager have zero influence on the results.

I did my bit in buying 2 season tickets and I support the team on the pitch.

All the positive thinking in the world isn’t going to change a damn thing.

[Shrekko]

There were people leaving after 30 mins on Saturday and our almost miracle comeback was probably only seen by 2/3000 left in the ground. I don't think Hibs fans are in the mood for holding their nerve at the moment.

To be fair, it's a lot to ask bearing in mind the torturous dross we've now been putting up with the last 3 years or so.

[Stuart93]

What difference does it make?

My thought on the club/players/manager have zero influence on the results.

I did my bit in buying 2 season tickets and I support the team on the pitch.

All the positive thinking in the world isn’t going to change a damn thing.

Spot on.

“Support your team”…something I don’t think hibs fans can be accused of not doing.

[chrisski33]

Sorry but i think the fans have been holding their nerve for over nearly 3 years now.

[Trinity Hibee]

If everyone and anyone at the club are really as bad as most people on here think then what do you think the board can do now that will make any difference to the next few games?

Another change of coaching team and magically everyone will be great?

Surely anything is better than what has been going on? I cannot think of any way it could now get worse on the football side. We are bottom and not picking up wins.

[Docker]

Surely anything is better than what has been going on? I cannot think of any way it could now get worse on the football side. We are bottom and not picking up wins.

No chance of winning by continuing with SDG’s easy to play against formation. We need a different formation which might mean no room on the pitch for some of our regular starters. We need to play the best suited players for the roles. I said on the match day thread that St Mirrens formation, set-up and approach would be well suited to players we have available.

[hibee-boys]

I don't want to talk about board room machinations or Black Knights just the team and the fans. We need to hold our nerve.

Irrespective of what happens in January, the squad we have is the squad we have so we run with it till then.

Many people are panicking and talking scorched earth on everything and everyone at the club just now. An understandable reaction perhaps but one that solves nothing.

On calm reflection, difficult with league position I know, there are many things to worry about but some, not so much.

First the bad. Really bad. Bottom of the league, a lack of goals, a lack of creativity in midfield, a defence that take it in turns to have a blunder, an inexperienced management team firefighting whilst learning their trade and just not abke to buy a win at this point. Truly dreadful season so far.

Secondly the not so bad. We aren't getting hammered and we haven't become detatched in the league. A fair mind would admit that in many games this season we have deserved better. A combination of bad play, poor finishing, silly individual errors, controversial decisions and sheer bad luck all contributing.

This is a time to hold our nerve as a team and a support. The team is clearly lacking confidence but certain experienced players need to find it within themselves to dig out wins and drag the team through. They know who they are. In adversity is when real character shines through.

As a supporter it is difficult to hold your tongue and stifle the boos when you see so much going against us. However, David Gray is an honourable and hard working man who deserves your respect no matter what you think of his and the coaching staff's abilities.

Rightly or wrongly the board have stuck by him and given him a chance,

This is the time for us all to hold our nerve.

I would’ve agreed with this pre St Mirren game for the reasons noted but that performance (not result) tipped me over the edge. I can understand individual errors and we’ve not had much luck but that overall performance, by players and coaching team decisions, were dreadful.

[Groathillgrump]

Possibly the most sensible post on here. We can't change the squad that we have right now. We need to try and back them and get those elusive wins over the line. The season is far from over. A good run (admittedly looking very unlikely) could have us back challenging for the top six again.

Gray deserves our respect. The men above him? Keep your anger for them. This is all on them.

Why?

I'll always respect David Gray for his cup winning goal but we're not talking about his playing career now.

Our results and most performances with him in charge of the team have been absolutely brutal.

If he turns this around quickly and strings a few wins together with better football then he'll begin to earn my respect as the boss. Sadly, on the evidence so far, that looks very unlikely.

[Ronniekirk]

And there lies the problem, we all know we aren’t getting much if anything from next few games yet the board are sticking to their guns

But maybe with the Black Knights identifying new manager and new transfer targets to get us out this mess

[jakedance]

The two times we've been relegated in my time watching Hibs it's ultimately had a cleansing, transformative effect, with the club making some big changes that resulted in some of the best Hibs teams and players I can remember. Both times we came back up stronger and had a few good years, before the usual slide again towards mediocrity (arguably we peaked with Lennon doing the airplane on the pitch and it's been a slow march downhill from that point to here).

Rather than hitting rock bottom again with relegation, now should be the time for that kind of change again. At the moment there is absolutely nothing to suggest the club know how to turn it around and the statement about how they will 'continue to work tirelessly' didn't fill me with any optimism. We've had some poor teams before but I don't remember a time when I've not rated a single player. The worst of it is that we have seen this coming. We can't even enjoy Hearts having their worst start in decades. Brutal.

[Smartie]

The two times we've been relegated in my time watching Hibs it's ultimately had a cleansing, transformative effect, with the club making some big changes that resulted in some of the best Hibs teams and players I can remember. Both times we came back up stronger and had a few good years, before the usual slide again towards mediocrity (arguably we peaked with Lennon doing the airplane on the pitch and it's been a slow march downhill from that point to here).

Rather than hitting rock bottom again with relegation, now should be the time for that kind of change again. At the moment there is absolutely nothing to suggest the club know how to turn it around and the statement about how they will 'continue to work tirelessly' didn't fill me with any optimism. We've had some poor teams before but I don't remember a time when I've not rated a single player. The worst of it is that we have seen this coming. We can't even enjoy Hearts having their worst start in decades. Brutal.

If it's any comfort I get the feeling that right now the sentiment throughout the club and fanbase is similar to when we've been relegated. There's definitely an "enough is enough" feeling in the air and an appetite for change knowing that we can't go on like this. Relegation doesn't change that, it isn't necessary, we know that's coming if we don't change.

[Alfred E Newman]

If it's any comfort I get the feeling that right now the sentiment throughout the club and fanbase is similar to when we've been relegated. There's definitely an "enough is enough" feeling in the air and an appetite for change knowing that we can't go on like this. Relegation doesn't change that, it isn't necessary, we know that's coming if we don't change.

Unfortunately we can't suddenly change 20 players. Changing the manager wouldn't magically improve the dire squad. It's going to be a struggle whoever ends up in charge for the rest of the season.

[Smartie]

Unfortunately we can't suddenly change 20 players. Changing the manager wouldn't magically improve the dire squad. It's going to be a struggle whoever ends up in charge for the rest of the season.

I agree.

Which is why I think we need to tread very carefully with what and who we change right now and over the next few months.

[Lago]

I agree.

Which is why I think we need to tread very carefully with what and who we change right now and over the next few months.
And by then it could be to late.

[hibeerealist]

Agree with this 100%. Desperate to see SDG succeed in the role. It’s painful to watch/listen to his post match interviews.

Undoubtedly we have been nowhere near good enough and he is having to learn on the job but I don’t believe we are as bad as the table reflects - albeit the squad is miles away from being a top 6 side which is where we should be minimum.

I think the heat quite rightly needs to remain on the board, but we need to stick behind the team and see how the next few months pan out, its a different story if we end up cut adrift however.

Tricky fixtures to come before January which is the worry.

Sadly, the table never lies .......... we are the worst team in the league over the first 12 games.

[The Spaceman]

Can I just check, where has this reference to “Bad Eggs” which seems to be popping up on different threads come from? Have I missed something?

[Contador]

Sadly, the table never lies .......... we are the worst team in the league over the first 12 games.

Not to be pedantic but we are 1 point behind 11th place Hearts with a game in hand on them.

Ross County and St Johnstone who aren't too far ahead have been poor as well.

For me our focus this season has to be on those 3 clubs. If SDG can use this season to steer us away from relegation and use both the January and next summer window then we can potentially get the ball rolling with building something, ideally with a change at board level.

[Keith_M]

I go to support the team but there's very little I can do to turn things around.

Our side is set up poorly, and often negatively, plus the mindset of the players suggests some of them need counselling... or a rocket up the arse, Fergie style.

Both of those are on the leadership, whether it's the Head Coach or higher up.

[blackpoolhibs]

I know you are being sarcastic Blackpool but it's not about patience. Every club and fan is impatient for success.

At the appointment of every manager the perceived wisdom is that the manager has to be given time and the board needs to stick by them. Yet, here we are, 12 games in and all the noise is sack this one and sack that one.

All I am suggesting is that collectively we follow our own advice, take a deep breath and hold our nerve here. We need to turn the sob stories, narrow defeats and draws into wins. .Easier said than done but not impossible.

I was not being sarcastic, i agree that patience is all we have now as there is absolutely nothing we as fans can do apart from get behind these losers and be patient until the BK group do their thing. :worried::pray:

[may 21/05/2016]

I'm confident we will finish in the top six
Some posters need to chill out and back david gray

[Bobby's Cinema]

That dreaded word that seems to appear in cycles over the years - apathy - was what I felt around me in the ground at the weekend.

The fans were extremely fair considering our situation and what we were served up.

[Scotty Leither]

That dreaded word that seems to appear in cycles over the years - apathy - was what I felt around me in the ground at the weekend.

The fans were extremely fair considering our situation and what we were served up.

That’s where am at. Like it or not the first/next fans’ interactions with the Board is HSL’s meeting with them on Thursday night.

They have to answer the (doubtless numerous) questions that they’ll get regarding player recruitment and the questionable quality of what’s been brought in.

If they duck and dive and refuse to answer any questions about players then HSL should walk out.

It’s time for some hard questions to be asked of this Board, and some honest answers to be given in return.

[TrinityHFC]

That’s where am at. Like it or not the first/next fans’ interactions with the Board is HSL’s meeting with them on Thursday night.

They have to answer the (doubtless numerous) questions that they’ll get regarding player recruitment and the questionable quality of what’s been brought in.

If they duck and dive and refuse to answer any questions about players then HSL should walk out.

It’s time for some hard questions to be asked of this Board, and some honest answers to be given in return.

HSL would not be on great ground getting into details on player quality or coaching.

Why would anyone at Hibs care if HSL walked out of a meeting?