Team v Dundee

[Unseen work]

Right, SDG is staying in post.

Time to concentrate on Dundee.

IMO big changes are needed in the starting 11. We keep trying and failing by repeatedly doing the same thing over and over again

………..….…………Smith…………

……….….Rocky…Ekpiteta….Iredale….

C.Cadden…..Levitt…..Newell………N.Cadden…

……………..………..Hoilett….

…………..…..Youan……….Gayle…….

Extremely limited at the right wing back area, was going to pick Boyle due to the attacking threat however don’t think he deserves a start

[Happyhibee2003]

is myko back? i would start him over youan

[SteveHFC]

Smith

Rocky, Ekpiteta, Iredale

C Cadden, NMW, Levitt, N Cadden

Rudi, Holiett

Gayle

[SHODAN]

:dunno:

[coldingham hibs]

Right, SDG is staying in post.

Time to concentrate on Dundee.

IMO big changes are needed in the starting 11. We keep trying and failing by repeatedly doing the same thing over and over again

………..….…………Smith…………

……….….Rocky…Ekpiteta….Iredale….

C.Cadden…..Levitt…..Newell………N.Cadden…

……………..………..Hoilett….

…………..…..Youan……….Gayle…….

Extremely limited at the right wing back area, was going to pick Boyle due to the attacking threat however don’t think he deserves a start

Not sure how you have the mental strength to start this thread.

[Stuart93]

Whoever plays, it’ll be the same insipid pish they’ve served up the rest of the season.

They’ll tell us on hibs tv and in the media how they’ll do this & that, then ultimately they’ll be an absolute no show on the pitch

[zitelli62]

Let's see what the tombola picks out.

[Unseen work]

Not sure how you have the mental strength to start this thread.

It’s the only way to get me through

If I sit and think about the decision I’ll explode

[wookie70]

Boyle has been absolutely honking so deserves dropped, Kwon continues to switch of and cause us to concede and I think we need a change of shape, O'Hora made a really awful mistake and missed the chance to clear it up by not going into the tackle. Rocky at least has some life about him. Borsik has to be dropped as that error was one too many and we are getting defeated by the odd goal. Smith may actually be worse but deserves a try. We have no-one that can play up front on their own so the first thing for me is get someone up alongside Myko


………..….…………...Smith…………

……….….Rocky…Ekpiteta….Iredale….

C.Cadden…..Triantis…..Newell………N.Cadden…

……………................Levitt.............………..….

…………..…......Hoilett……….Myko…….

[Hiber-nation]

It’s the only way to get me through

If I sit and think about the decision I’ll explode

I'd rather not think about it till the drive up in 12 days time....

[GreenPJ]

Surely Miller (for all his faults) gives us a lot more than C Cadden. Iredale is untested

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I wonder what delights the football Gods have in store…

[snedzuk]

There is more chance of me playing than Obita being dropped.

[Tambo]

Right, SDG is staying in post.

Time to concentrate on Dundee.

IMO big changes are needed in the starting 11. We keep trying and failing by repeatedly doing the same thing over and over again

………..….…………Smith…………

……….….Rocky…Ekpiteta….Iredale….

C.Cadden…..Levitt…..Newell………N.Cadden…

……………..………..Hoilett….

…………..…..Youan……….Gayle…….

Extremely limited at the right wing back area, was going to pick Boyle due to the attacking threat however don’t think he deserves a start

I would take this team.

Anyone but Bursik

Rocky
Ekpiteta
Obita

C.Cadden
Levitt
Newell
N.Cadden

Hoilett/Rudi

Myko
Boyle/Youan/Gayle/Cleland/Mckirdy

Would be my team, I think N.Cadden deserves a start.

[number9dream]

Boruc over Smith for me…
Agree Nicky Cadden deserves a place.
Hoilett has to play.
After that, no idea how to solve this mess…

[Donegal Hibby]

I don’t think he will change the system of 4-2-3-1 for the Dundee game and wonder what changes he will make if any.. I’d probably go with …

…………………………. Bursik ……………………..

…… Miller . Ekpiteta . Rocky. Iredale …..

……………….…..Triantis .kwon………………….

………….… Boyle . Hoilett. N. Cadden …..

………………..………… Myko ……………………….

[Cabbage-Patch]

My brain is not ready for this thread. Will come back after the international break

[Tambo]

I don’t think he will change the system of 4-2-3-1 for the Dundee game and wonder what changes he will make if any.. I’d probably go with …

…………………………. Bursik ……………………..

…… Miller . Ekpiteta . Rocky. Iredale …..

……………….…..Triantis .kwon………………….

………….… Boyle . Hoilett. N. Cadden …..

………………..………… Myko ……………………….

Is this the team you would like or the team you think Gray will put out?

[K-Zazu]

Drop Boyle please.

[Donegal Hibby]

Is this the team you would like or the team you think Gray will put out?

Abit of both … I don’t think he will change Bursik and I’d like to see both C. Cadden and Obita dropped . Some of the others like Boyle will probably play even though he’s been playing poorly simply because there isn’t any better options.

[McGruber]

Hard to care.

Bursik can't be anywhere near it. Smith is worse. Put Boruc in.

Start Iredale, Levitt (in a 3) NMW, N Cadden

Ekpiteta and Obita keep places.

There's 7.

Probably have to give O'Hora, Myko, Miller, Hoilett and either Newell or Kwon

Or just play the youngsters

[nickwhibs]

Boruc
Miller -Ekpiteta - Iredale - Obita
Hoilett - Levitt - Kwon - N. Cadden
Youan - Myko/Gayle

[Smartie]

Surely Miller (for all his faults) gives us a lot more than C Cadden. Iredale is untested

Untested > proven to be pish.

Smith

Rocky Ekpiteta Iredale

Miller Triantis Newell Obita

Levitt

Myko Gayle


Don't think we have a decent LCB for a back 4 so a back 3 and Iredale will have to do. May have gone for Obita at LCB and Nicky Cadden at LWB though, N.Cadden has done enough to earn a start with sprightly appearances of the bench.

Go for Kwon or Triantis - Triantis shades it for me. Shame they have to be partnered with Newell there. Midfield still a problem but with a back 3 and both Newell and Triantis playing deeper we can give Levitt a bit of a free role to create and not worry too much about defending.

Big man, little man up front. If Myko decides to drop deep and create we still have Gayle staying up front.

Hoilett and N.Cadden don't really deserve to be sitting out. Youan, Boyle, O'Hora and Bursik can bolt.

[Alfred E Newman]

Oh dear, maybe we should just throw in the towel now.

[GreenCastle]

Boyle and Miller will be travelling across the world again.

Games on 14th then 19th then fly back to Edinburgh and play on 23rd.

Last time Miller came back and started looked like he had concrete in his shoes.

[Lago]

Will it make any difference who he picks?

[calumgrant38]

I don’t think he will change the system of 4-2-3-1 for the Dundee game and wonder what changes he will make if any.. I’d probably go with …

…………………………. Bursik ……………………..

…… Miller . Ekpiteta . Rocky. Iredale …..

……………….…..Triantis .kwon………………….

………….… Boyle . Hoilett. N. Cadden …..

………………..………… Myko ……………………….

This lineup made me sad

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Smith

Ekpiteta
O'Hora
Obita (C)

C.Cadden
Kwon
Newell
N.Cadden

Hoilett

Youan
Gayle

[Basildon Hibs]

It doesn't really matter, does it..?

[Docker]

………..….…………Bursic…………

……….….O’Hora…Ekpiteta….Iredale….

C.Cadden…..Levitt…..Triantis………N.Cadden…

……………..…Youan…....Hoilett….

…………..…………….Myko…….


…….the goalie is garbage but don’t see any alternative but to play him and hope like hell !!!!!!

[Brummie_Hibs]

Anybody and everybody except for Youan, Miller, Bursik and Boyle.

Especially not Youan.

[hibeequinn]

Gk boruc
Cb ekpiteta
Cb rocky
Cb ohora
Cm triantis
Cm kwon
Lm hoilett
Rm N cadden
Cam levitt
St myko
St gayle

[flash]

Something like;
Smith

Miller
Ekpiteta
Rocky
Obita

Triantis
Newell
Levitt

Hoilett
Myko
N Cadden.

[sauzeelegod]

Smith

Cadden
Marv
O’Hora
Obita

Kwon
Triantis
Levitt

Youan
Myko/Gayle
Hoilett

[Forza Fred]

………..….…………Bursic…………

……….….O’Hora…Ekpiteta….Iredale….

C.Cadden…..Levitt…..Triantis………N.Cadden…

……………..…Youan…....Hoilett….

…………..…………….Myko…….


…….the goalie is garbage but don’t see any alternative but to play him and hope like hell !!!!!!

Number of people saying Bursik is crap but Smith is worse, yet should play.
I always thought you played the better player...don't see how playing a worse one is going to pay any dividends
Surely we should play our least worse?

[Donegal Hibby]

This lineup made me sad

Maybe put a lineup that lifts your spirits a wee bit then :wink:

[AlbertK86]

Smith

O’Hora
Marv
Iredale

Chris Cadden
Triantis
Newell
Nicky Cadden

Levitt

Myko
Youan


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[Hibs3-2]

Smith

Marv ohora iredale

Miller triantis kwon obita

Levitt

Myko gayle

[hibee-boys]

Smith

O’Hora
Marv
Iredale

Chris Cadden
Triantis
Newell
Nicky Cadden

Levitt

Myko
Youan


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I’d be happy with this, 4/2/3/1 is clearly not working, something has to change. Toss up between Miller/C Cadden right wing back but given Millers performance after his last jaunt down south I’d go with Cadden. You could literally play at least 5 CMs who are all as bad as each other but Kwon has been dreadful recently. JDH, Campbell, NMW, Amos, Newell……Joe best of a very bad bunch.

[Unseen work]

On second thought wouldn’t be surprised to see Gray go with

…………………Bursik……..

Miller….Rocky….O’Hora….Obita……

…………NMW…..JDH…..

C.Cadden…..Amos……McKirdy….

………………Campbell……

[Paulie Walnuts]

Actually just looked at Jordan Smiths career on Wikipedia because I don’t think I’ve ever actually looked at him.

You’ve really got to laugh. 5 appearances in League Two. That’s pretty much it for FIVE years. :faf:

[Heisenberg]

I’d really like him to change the formation, it’s clearly not working at all.

[Smartie]

Actually just looked at Jordan Smiths career on Wikipedia because I don’t think I’ve ever actually looked at him.

You’ve really got to laugh. 5 appearances in League Two. That’s pretty much it for FIVE years. :faf:

The decisions regarding our goalkeeping position this season are up there with our very worst recruitment decisions - beating off some very stiff competition.

It's staggering.

[hibee-boys]

On second thought wouldn’t be surprised to see Gray go with

…………………Bursik……..

Miller….Rocky….O’Hora….Obita……

…………NMW…..JDH…..

C.Cadden…..Amos……McKirdy….

………………Campbell……

Play that team and we’re doomed for relegation……oh, wait a minute😳

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

.......bursik.......

O'hora marv iredale

miller obita

triantis n cadden

hoilett

boyle gayle


3, 5, 2

Triantis responsible for covering the middle defensively. Obita and Miller supporting defensively.

Boyle playing more up top with Gayle as I dont think he has the legs to play any sort of wing role any more and Myko's touch is brutal.

Subs become simple if and when required: Tria tis - Kwon, N Cadden - Newell, Hoilett - Levitt, Boyle or Gayle - Myko, Miller - C Cadden

[BoomtownHibees]

Nicky Cadden as a central midfielder?

[Tambo]

Abit of both … I don’t think he will change Bursik and I’d like to see both C. Cadden and Obita dropped . Some of the others like Boyle will probably play even though he’s been playing poorly simply because there isn’t any better options.

Fair enough, was just curious on the Kwon and Triantis selection.

[Tambo]

Oh dear, maybe we should just throw in the towel now.

What's the winning line up?

[Saint Hibee]

On second thought wouldn’t be surprised to see Gray go with

…………………Bursik……..

Miller….Rocky….O’Hora….Obita……

…………NMW…..JDH…..

C.Cadden…..Amos……McKirdy….

………………Campbell……

This line-up made me have to go and have a lie down.

[Coco Bryce]

On second thought wouldn’t be surprised to see Gray go with

…………………Bursik……..

Miller….Rocky….O’Hora….Obita……

…………NMW…..JDH…..

C.Cadden…..Amos……McKirdy….

………………Campbell……

Jesus wept 😂 😂

[1875M]

People saying Bursik clearly haven’t seen Smith. There’s a reason he’s happy to be a bench warmer.

I’d go back 3/5.

Bursik

Rocky
Marv
Iredale

Chris Cadden / Miller
Newell
Kwon
Nicky Cadden

Levitt

Myko
Youan

[GreenCastle]

The decisions regarding our goalkeeping position this season are up there with our very worst recruitment decisions - beating off some very stiff competition.

It's staggering.

Yes considering we wanted to upgrade on Marshall then Marshall actually was somehow involved in looking at the new keepers also?!!

It’s staggeringly bad - add in the fact none of our youth keepers seem close - that includes MJ.

[Nicho87]

Boruc

Miller Ekpiteta Rocky Obita

Kwon

NMW JDH

Hoilett Gayle Cadden

[Is It On....]

Actually just looked at Jordan Smiths career on Wikipedia because I don’t think I’ve ever actually looked at him.

You’ve really got to laugh. 5 appearances in League Two. That’s pretty much it for FIVE years. :faf:

With so few appearances, who was behind the signing of him as a back up goalkeeper? Of all the signings in the summer this has to be one of the most extraordinary 😬

[ian cruise]

That team isn't winning three points.

Sorry, didn't have time to reply to each and every post, so blanket statement to cover all will need to suffice 😉

In all seriousness (though I'm pretty serious about the above), given our in efficiencies and personnel going 3-5-1-1 with more cover in defence meaning Miller and Obita going forward is less of an issue seems a good option.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Something like;
Smith

Miller
Ekpiteta
Rocky
Obita

Triantis
Newell
Levitt

Hoilett
Myko
N Cadden.

This is the team I’d go with. Only doubt would be the keeper but can he be any worse.

[eastmainsmsh]

Bursik

Miller Ekpiteta Rocky Iredale

C Cadden Levitt N Cadden Hoilett

Gayle Youan

[flash]

Bursik

Miller Ekpiteta Rocky Iredale

C Cadden Levitt N Cadden Hoilett

Gayle Youan

It's all about opinions but that's an interesting midfield.

[Heisenberg]

People saying Bursik clearly haven’t seen Smith. There’s a reason he’s happy to be a bench warmer.

I’d go back 3/5.

Bursik

Rocky
Marv
Iredale

Chris Cadden / Miller
Newell
Kwon
Nicky Cadden

Levitt

Myko
Youan

That’s the team I’d go for apart from Triantis in for Newell and any other keeper in for Bursik. Smith has only played for us once and didn’t do anything wrong from what I can remember, certainly can’t do worse than Bursik has.

[Jones28]

Nicky Cadden as a central midfielder?

Got to play him wide left surely?

[eastmainsmsh]

It's all about opinions but that's an interesting midfield.

Just would like to see something different as last game things were terrible

[flash]

Just would like to see something different as last game things were terrible

No argument there mate

[K-Zazu]

Get Kenneh, Amos and JDH as the midfield 3. Mckirdy to play as the lone striker.

[Tyler Durden]

Got to play him wide left surely?

I think Cadden could play centrally in a 3. Basically the role that Newell played at the weekend.

We want those two "8s" playing advanced of Triantis, to drive forward and support the forward. That looks like something Cadden can do. That would mean we can keep Hoilett wide left also.

We need something like this, or a move to a back 3 IMO. If Gray starts with the same central 3 (or simply swaps one for Levitt), nothing will change.

[flash]

Get Kenneh, Amos and JDH as the midfield 3. Mckirdy to play as the lone striker.

Couldn't be any worse than the current lot. (They absolutely could be worse but someone had to say it.)

[eastmainsmsh]

If SDG changes things up hopefully a few would like to prove us and Management team wrong by getting us a win at Dens

[andrew70]

Smith

O’Hora
Ekpiteta
Iredale

Miller
Kwon
Levitt
Obita

Molotnikov/Hoilett

Kukharevych
Gayle

Time to play percentages, up the top end of the park early but with two up top, a focal point. Feed off the scraps and turn the opposition.

No more passive play and an aimless punt that we’ve been watching.

Tough, tough run of games.

[GreenPJ]

Bursik

Marv
O'Hora
Rocky

Miller
Triantis
Levitt
Newell
Obita

Boyle
Gayle

[erin go bragh]

Boruc

Marv
Rocky
Irdale

Miller
Levitt
Triantis
Rudi
N Cadden

Myko
Gayle

[Alfred E Newman]

Deck chairs and Titanic comes to mind.

[Malthibby]

Get Kenneh, Amos and JDH as the midfield 3. Mckirdy to play as the lone striker.

Nearly bought that as a genuine suggestion.
Grim to realise that no matter how bad we have been thus far it could have been even worse.:hide:

[Wheat Hound]

I see heavy rain is forecast for Saturday in Dundee. A first test for their relayed pitch...they should forfeit the game if cancelled given last seasons debacle...😉

[California-Hibs]

Levitt and N Cadden 100% deserve a start.

[Nicho87]

Boruc

Miller
Rocky
Ekpiteta
Obita

Kwon
Triantis
Levitt

Hoilett
Myko
Cadden

[Scotty Leither]

Actually just looked at Jordan Smiths career on Wikipedia because I don’t think I’ve ever actually looked at him.

You’ve really got to laugh. 5 appearances in League Two. That’s pretty much it for FIVE years. :faf:

You do have to laugh PW, otherwise you’ll greet. It’s a scandalous signing with his “pedigree” of barely having played a competitive game for 5 years. Absolutely ludicrous.

[B.H.F.C]

I really have no idea what he’ll do. He needs to mix it up rather than just plod on with the same thing over and over again.

Right back is an issue, they’re both crap. I think Miller is slightly less crap but he struggles coming back from Australia.

I’d drop O’Hora. Has to be consequence for mistakes rather than just doing the same thing the next week. I’d play Iredale to give some balance but I think O’Hora or Rocky will play.

Levitt and Nicky Cadden both did enough against St Mirren to merit a start and I’d bring Myko back in up front.

It’s at the point where you’re just hoping to land on something that works. That will require him to make a number of changes though.

[Hibs3-2]

Smith

Cadden
Ohora
Marv
Iredale
Cadden

Kwon
Triantis
Levitt

Myko
Gayle

[rowan3633]

Boruc

O'Hora-----Ekpiteta------Iredale


Miller-------Levitt------Kwon--------Cadden


Youan----Myko----Hoilett

[CapitalGreen]

I’ve always said the best way to find consistency is to make wholesale changes to your starting XI every week.

[Smartie]

I’ve always said the best way to find consistency is to make wholesale changes to your starting XI every week.

For all there were some notable horror shows amongst the back line in our last game, it has to be said that they’d all been solid enough individually and collectively for a bit prior to that. There’s probably a strong argument to keep consistency going there.

Middle to front though? It’s surely the case that we just keep throwing things together in the hope that we find something that clicks eventually. I’d probably bring Myko back in and give Levitt a chance supporting him - although a passer supporting someone who is slow and doesn’t run in behind probably isn’t a recipe for success.

[sauzeelegod]

Boruc

O'Hora-----Ekpiteta------Iredale


Miller-------Levitt------Kwon--------Cadden


Youan----Myko----Hoilett

I like it

[sauzee1989]

I like it
Wouldn’t have anything against it. Triantis needs dropped this myth he’s a good player is nonsense

[JimBHibees]

Wouldn’t have anything against it. Triantis needs dropped this myth he’s a good player is nonsense

Hardly a myth is it

[eastmainsmsh]

Wouldn’t have anything against it. Triantis needs dropped this myth he’s a good player is nonsense

He is one of the better players in a ***** midfield lol that’s how he looks decent

[Since452]

Boruc

O'Hora-----Ekpiteta------Iredale


Miller-------Levitt------Kwon--------Cadden


Youan----Myko----Hoilett

That's a relegation team if ever I've seen one. Funny thing is I agree on the line up. We're in serious trouble.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Levitt and N Cadden 100% deserve a start.

Why Levitt?

We know he brings nothing, but time on the sidelines seems to elevate his chances?

[richard_pitts]

deck chairs and titanic comes to mind.

ltyf

[richard_pitts]

i think we look better with 2 up front, so it's a 352 or 442 for me. 442 in the second half v St Mirren was better than the pig's ear formation of the first half for sure

Bursic

Miller Ekpeita Rocky Obita

Cadden Newell Levitt Cadden

Kura Youan

Going with 442 as Miller will be potentially tired after playing for Australia and not starting Hoillet given he's had to travel.

[Donegal Hibby]

Why Levitt?

We know he brings nothing, but time on the sidelines seems to elevate his chances?

I don’t think Levitt has offered nearly enough in games and has been a major disappointment so far though in saying that I thought he was one of our better players against St mirren along with N.Cadden .. wouldn’t be against seeing him get a chance maybe in a more advanced role .

[Tambo]

Why Levitt?

We know he brings nothing, but time on the sidelines seems to elevate his chances?

Would assume because of his second half performance last time out in which St Mirren were 0-2 up and looked to have sat back from the second half, which will be different circumstances than starting from the first whistle Vs Dundee, so if gets his chance then it's up to him now.

Changes will be needed either way.

[richard_pitts]

Would assume because of his second half performance last time out in which St Mirren were 0-2 up and looked to have sat back from the second half, which will be different circumstances than starting from the first whistle Vs Dundee, so if gets his chance then it's up to him now.

Changes will be needed either way.

Correct. He showed some fight and didn't hide. We need more of that and I'd give him a chance because of that. I'd even consider McKirdy for the same reason.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Would assume because of his second half performance last time out in which St Mirren were 0-2 up and looked to have sat back from the second half, which will be different circumstances than starting from the first whistle Vs Dundee, so if gets his chance then it's up to him now.

Changes will be needed either way.

But we know he can pick a pass or two.

From what I saw that game, he still has the same issues: far too easily beaten and run by. This was evident in that game.

[JohnM1875]

I think Levitt probably deserves a chance, but not as a
10 as so many folk seem to want. He's barely ever played there his whole career, he's better when he has space to look up and find a pass, wont get that space playing as a 10.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Bursik

O’Hora
Marv
Obita

Cadden
Kwon
Levitt
Triantis
Hoilett

Myko
Youan

[KWJ]

Boruc

Cadden - Ekpiteta - Bushiri - Obita

---Newell----Levitt---Doyle-Hayes---

Hoilett-------------------------Youan

Gayle

[SHODAN]

Smith

Miller Bushiri O'Hora Ekpiteta Obita

Levitt Kwon N. Cadden

Hoilett Kuharevich

[Tyler Durden]

If we start with 3 of these 4 in midfield - Levitt, Newell, Triantis, Kwon - and only one up front, then we're going to struggle to score more than one goal. Which we know is not going to win us the game.

Gray has hopefully used the break to plan a change in tactics/shape, cos we're getting nowhere with the strategy of 50 crosses per game and playing for set pieces. He needs to change it or he'll be gone very soon.

A win and a draw in the next 2 games could really swing things if he can get it right.

[Smartie]

If we start with 3 of these 4 in midfield - Levitt, Newell, Triantis, Kwon - and only one up front, then we're going to struggle to score more than one goal. Which we know is not going to win us the game.

Gray has hopefully used the break to plan a change in tactics/shape, cos we're getting nowhere with the strategy of 50 crosses per game and playing for set pieces. He needs to change it or he'll be gone very soon.

A win and a draw in the next 2 games could really swing things if he can get it right.

The combinations of player we have going forward are horrible, and it's hard to figure out what sort of goal we're ever going to score from open play.

It needs a fairly radical rethink.

We've got some potentially threatening players but they're either in the huff, past it or a terrible foil for one another.

I certainly wouldn't want to have my livelihood to be dependent on finding a combination out of that lot that gets enough goals to outweigh what we lose at the other end.

Whilst imperfect in so many ways, I still think a variation on 352 smooths out the most of these problems, mainly because I think Myko and a partner should be dangerous and a Levitt without defensive duties should have the ability to create without being a defensive liability. That formation allows him a bit more freedom without having to be a worry defensively.

I've gone from thinking that we just need to find a way to get Boyle and Youan involved to thinking that they're both plain ineffective (for various reasons) and needing binned.

[B.H.F.C]

If we start with 3 of these 4 in midfield - Levitt, Newell, Triantis, Kwon - and only one up front, then we're going to struggle to score more than one goal. Which we know is not going to win us the game.

Gray has hopefully used the break to plan a change in tactics/shape, cos we're getting nowhere with the strategy of 50 crosses per game and playing for set pieces. He needs to change it or he'll be gone very soon.

A win and a draw in the next 2 games could really swing things if he can get it right.

He has to change things. If we come back and it’s just more of the same it would be unforgivable. We can’t just keep doing the same thing over and over again. Between Myko, Gayle, Hoilett, Boyle and Youan we should be capable of getting goals if we can work out a way to get some form of partnership(s) and how to get the ball to them quicker. If we go to Dundee and just shell hopeful cross after hopeful cross in to the box it’ll be the same outcome where their goalie can stand and watch for most of the game.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Every team having Levitt is hilarious, most, if not all fans calling him to be out the team for extraordinarily bad performances.

Now - lets get him back.

Why don't we apply the same logic for Kenneh? Wonder who the lottery will bring up next...

[CapitalGreen]

Every team having Levitt is hilarious, most, if not all fans calling him to be out the team for extraordinarily bad performances.

Now - lets get him back.

Why don't we apply the same logic for Kenneh? Wonder who the lottery will bring up next...

Dun Utd finished 4th, he won their Player of the Year and went to the World Cup when he was used correctly. Monty played him as a defensive midfielder in a 2 man midfield.

[JohnM1875]

Dun Utd finished 4th, he won their Player of the Year and went to the World Cup when he was used correctly. Monty played him as a defensive midfielder in a 2 man midfield.

I know you personally might not be meaning as a 10, but so many folk have suggested he's played there. Going by Transfermarkt, he never played as a CAM for Dundee United. 24 times as a DM and 23 times as a CM.

Get Transfermarkt might not be the most reliable of sources.

[Smartie]

Every team having Levitt is hilarious, most, if not all fans calling him to be out the team for extraordinarily bad performances.

Now - lets get him back.

Why don't we apply the same logic for Kenneh? Wonder who the lottery will bring up next...

Until someone actually steps up and makes a solid claim for regular inclusion based on a high standard of performance, a lottery is probably as justifiable as any other method.

And as we watch Kwon, Triantis and co toil every week, the logical case in favour of Kenneh probably grows.

[CapitalGreen]

I know you personally might not be meaning as a 10, but so many folk have suggested he's played there. Going by Transfermarkt, he never played as a CAM for Dundee United. 24 times as a DM and 23 times as a CM.

Get Transfermarkt might not be the most reliable of sources.

Nope, I’m not talking about him being a 10.

Transfermarkt only tells you the position a player played, not their role. For example, Makelele and Pirlo would both have been listed as DMs but they played completely different roles.

Levitt under Monty was expected to be the most defensive of a central pairing with Joe Newell which is absolutely mental.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Until someone actually steps up and makes a solid claim for regular inclusion based on a high standard of performance, a lottery is probably as justifiable as any other method.

And as we watch Kwon, Triantis and co toil every week, the logical case in favour of Kenneh probably grows.

Which is brutally true.

I just feel we need to know exactly what we are getting ourselves into if we play him.

Slow, beaten very easily and no heart for a fight. He will make Joe Newell seem like a lion.

[wookie70]

If we start with 3 of these 4 in midfield - Levitt, Newell, Triantis, Kwon - and only one up front, then we're going to struggle to score more than one goal. Which we know is not going to win us the game.

Gray has hopefully used the break to plan a change in tactics/shape, cos we're getting nowhere with the strategy of 50 crosses per game and playing for set pieces. He needs to change it or he'll be gone very soon.

A win and a draw in the next 2 games could really swing things if he can get it right.

If I was SDG I would look to have Clelland from the academy on the bench. He is nowhere near ready to start but he has amazing energy and can take a chance so would be far more useful off the bench than McKirdy. We have already conceded two important goals to kids playing for the Dons and Hearts this season so if they can do it why not us. Even just a new face may change the energy of the squad. I think Cadden2 and Levitt deserve a run of games. We have got nowhere with Newell, Triantis and Kwon and I would drop Kwon and bring in Levitt. I wonder of Junior can play on the right and we could have him there and Cadden2 on the left. That would help shore up our wings and I don't think we would lose much going forward. Cadden2 made a big difference in teh last game so we may gain something going forward

[Smartie]

Which is brutally true.

I just feel we need to know exactly what we are getting ourselves into if we play him.

Slow, beaten very easily and no heart for a fight. He will make Joe Newell seem like a lion.

Far be it for me to be making the case for the defence of Dylan Levitt - he's been about as disappointing a signing as we have ever made and watching him play football frustrates the life out of me.

But he does have something the other midfielders don't - a decent weight of pass and a decent shot. He's got the best attacking potential of our midfielders, therefore I'm still up for trying to work out a way to make up for his defensive shortcomings.

Which are genuinely horrendous...

[Jones28]

Smith
Marv Rocky Iredale
Miller Levitt Newall Obita
Hoilett
Myko Gayle

That would be my team for Saturday.

Not sure why, Levitt did alright last time out, give him the freedom to get forward and let Newall do the dirty stuff. Kwon and Triantis both have good and bad points but they were rank against St Mirren, if they even both played, it was so forgettable.

Nicky Cadden is someone I'd like to see more but Obita is the best crosser we have in the side and links well with Hoilett. If we actually get some strikers in the box Obita can hit them. Maybe Nicky C could play as a striker? Dunno.

3 at the back purely because I like it and it means we might not have to rely so much on midfielders being switched on and tracking people. I've got a soft spot for Rocky and he does the physical side of the game so well. He's got a clanger in him but they're no worse than what we've seen already this season. He played like a captain when he came on against St Mirren so I'd give him a chance. Iredale at LCB becuase he has a LEFT FOOT.

Newall as the skipper is not undropable but him a Levitt play well together. "Well" is doing some heavy lifting in fairness.

Strikers are the strikers, they're both here and Myko might score. Gayle too.

Cadden showed last time he's not as good a player as Miller. Boyle is dropped because **** me, that penalty AND I thought it was criminal he didn't get in front of the cross that St Mirren scored their first from. Yes he tracked his man but he seemed to pull out of stopping the cross. Been totally ineffective since he scored against St Johnston and could be an option off the bench when legs are tiring.

Anyway, onwards and sidewards and backwards again.

[Greenio]

Sign of the times that there are so many different team combos being suggested.

Im not sure of what id go with - but I know we need something to click that hasn't been there - Boyle and C Cadden are just consistently underpeforming, Newall seems lost as to what hes doing, Youan, I just dont know - he obviously wants away, so while he really should be busting a gut to get the move he wants, I dont see that happening on the pitch.

I hope DG has been using the break as a reset and we see something different on the weekend

[Since452]

My worry is that similar to Montgomery, the longer Gray has to work with the players the worse we seem to get. I'm not sure the international breaks do us any favours in that regard. Anyway. I hope he stumbles across a line up that works. I don't really care about performances right now we just need to grind out wins.

[K-Zazu]

Get Kenneh in, like a kind of wildcard option.

[eastmainsmsh]

Get Kenneh in, like a kind of wildcard option.

He can play centre half or DM why not

[Since452]

Is Kennah with us our out on loan? I'd honestly forgotten about him. Could be an option.

[K-Zazu]

Is Kennah with us our out on loan? I'd honestly forgotten about him. Could be an option.

He’s here with us but not in SDG plans.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

Looking at the forecasted weather on Saturday and given the Dundee record on pitch condition, Anyone going to the game might do well to keep an eye on game on/off updates…. heavy winds and rain morning into evening….

[GreenCastle]

Miller played 90 and 63 mins for Oz - so doubt he will start after his last away trip and 1st half against Utd.

Boyle travelled but no game time.

Hoilett played 23 mins for Canada and scored so think he has to start.

Keeper

O’Hora Marv Obita
Boyle Triantis Kwon Cadden N
Hoilett
Myko Gayle

Newell can go bench as haven’t won a league game since May with him
In the team.

[Donegal Hibby]

I see a few picking Myko and Gayle up front together .I’ve thought Myko has been going out wide to much for us though on his highlights he seems do that a fair bit ….

https://youtu.be/vEkqNjLyvy0?si=YJ7Ni8kg_46CZ1g4

Gayle I’ve always thought was a bit of a poacher in fairness …..

https://youtu.be/4SaFWPqVSOo?si=5nn82BhI47JJOxnH

Would be interesting to see the two play together I think .

[WhileTheChief..]

Is Kennah with us our out on loan? I'd honestly forgotten about him. Could be an option.

He was crap the day he signed for us and I doubt he’s any better now. Another completely pointless signing we made.

[Smartie]

I see a few picking Myko and Gayle up front together .I’ve thought Myko has been going out wide to much for us though on his highlights he seems do that a fair bit ….

https://youtu.be/vEkqNjLyvy0?si=YJ7Ni8kg_46CZ1g4

Gayle I’ve always thought was a bit of a poacher in fairness …..

https://youtu.be/4SaFWPqVSOo?si=5nn82BhI47JJOxnH

Would be interesting to see the two play together I think .

The problem with Myko gallivanting is that when he does, he leaves us with nothing in the middle when we finally force a chance. This happens frequently. The idea of a pairing would allow Myko to gallivant to his heart’s content and we’d still occasionally have a chance of someone getting on the end of a cross.

Nisbet at his worst, in a similarly ineffectual team, was also guilty of this.

[Smartie]

He was crap the day he signed for us and I doubt he’s any better now. Another completely pointless signing we made.

An expensive one too.

[BoomtownHibees]

I see a few picking Myko and Gayle up front together .I’ve thought Myko has been going out wide to much for us though on his highlights he seems do that a fair bit ….

https://youtu.be/vEkqNjLyvy0?si=YJ7Ni8kg_46CZ1g4

Gayle I’ve always thought was a bit of a poacher in fairness …..

https://youtu.be/4SaFWPqVSOo?si=5nn82BhI47JJOxnH

Would be interesting to see the two play together I think .

I reckon Myko drifts wide just to try and get involved in the game

[Donegal Hibby]

I reckon Myko drifts wide just to try and get involved in the game

I think that’s a possibility in fairness as we lack any creativity from midfield and our two best wingers .. ones lost form and what’s going on with the other is a bit of a mystery in he’s underachieving too .

[JohnM1875]

Hibs posting an article about Landers and his recovery from injury. Probably reading way too much into it, but hopefully means he gets a game this weekend.

[1875Sean]

He can play centre half or DM why not

Isn’t he suspended after getting a red for the dev team?

[Jones28]

Hibs posting an article about Landers and his recovery from injury. Probably reading way too much into it, but hopefully means he gets a game this weekend.

I'd rather see him getting a chance than McKirdy or even Youan at this stage.

[Hamish]

Dundee 7/4 Hibs 6/4

How have the odds compilers come up with this?

Having said that they had Hibs Women favs in the derby which I couldn't understand so maybe that's a good sign?

[Hibernian Verse]

Dundee 7/4 Hibs 6/4

How have the odds compilers come up with this?

Having said that they had Hibs Women favs in the derby which I couldn't understand so maybe that's a good sign?

Presumably the stats show we aren't as bad as the league table has us.

[HibbyAndy]

Dundee 7/4 Hibs 6/4

How have the odds compilers come up with this?

Having said that they had Hibs Women favs in the derby which I couldn't understand so maybe that's a good sign?



What site ? I use Bet365 and Hearts were odds on to beat hibs

[hibsbollah]

Presumably the stats show we aren't as bad as the league table has us.

I heard Pat Nevin making the same point. Possession, balls in attacking areas, shots, expected goals, all have us midtable or thereabouts. Its the things you cant measure we seem to be rubbish at.

[Hibernian Verse]

I heard Pat Nevin making the same point. Possession, balls in attacking areas, shots, expected goals, all have us midtable or thereabouts. Its the things you cant measure we seem to be rubbish at.

Individual errors!

[hibsbollah]

Individual errors!

Margins. Fine ones.

[eastmainsmsh]

Isn’t he suspended after getting a red for the dev team?

No sure mate if he gets a chance sure he can’t be worse than others at minute

[Donegal Hibby]

No sure mate if he gets a chance sure he can’t be worse than others at minute

I’d be absolutely amazed if Kenneh is anywhere near the squad for the Dundee game in fairness ..think I’m correct in saying he’s not made the bench in any of our games this season.

[wookie70]

Hibs posting an article about Landers and his recovery from injury. Probably reading way too much into it, but hopefully means he gets a game this weekend.

I think it is just as it reads. A welcome back to a player who had a bad injury that kept him out for months. Saying that he looks strong and sharp and I think quicker too. He can't be any worse than McKirdy

[Centre Hawf]

I’d be absolutely amazed if Kenneh is anywhere near the squad for the Dundee game in fairness ..think I’m correct in saying he’s not made the bench in any of our games this season.

I think it's fair to say he's been told to bugger off. Very much doubt he'll be drafted in at all.

[Lago]

I heard Pat Nevin making the same point. Possession, balls in attacking areas, shots, expected goals, all have us midtable or thereabouts. Its the things you cant measure we seem to be rubbish at.
Like scoring goals and preventing goals I would guess.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think it's fair to say he's been told to bugger off. Very much doubt he'll be drafted in at all.

Agree , don’t think picking him would make any difference anyhow as he’s not any better than we have and the fact that he’s a DM doesn’t help either …. Our main problem is we lack any creativity in the middle of the park .

[andrew70]

Smith
O’Hora Ekpiteta Iredale
Miller Levitt Kwon Obita
Hoilett/Rudi
Myk Gayle

[Exuberance1875]

Team will very likely be the exact same as it’s been for this season. Minimal changes and a hope and a prayer that some miracle happens.

Rinse and repeat until manager gets sacked and do the same until they sack the next one

[B.H.F.C]

Team will very likely be the exact same as it’s been for this season. Minimal changes and a hope and a prayer that some miracle happens.

Rinse and repeat until manager gets sacked and do the same until they sack the next one

I don’t think Gray will change much in terms of shape but I think there will be a few changes personnel wise from the St Mirren game.

I think Myko will come back in for Youan. I think Nicky Cadden and Levitt will come in as well. Who drops out could be anyone’s guess after the last performance and Miller, Boyle and Hoilett all having done a lot of travelling.

[Hibstrooper]

Have Hibs done their press conference for this game yet? Usually done by now but I haven’t seen anything.

[The Tubs]

Have Hibs done their press conference for this game yet? Usually done by now but I haven’t seen anything.

It's just finished. Nothing of note was said but Davie looked well edgy.

[The Tubs]

Edgy in what way?

The principal one. You can also say “on edge”. Tense. He hadn’t got a McKirdy cut nor a forehead tattoo.

[AlbertK86]

Hard to care.

Bursik can't be anywhere near it. Smith is worse. Put Boruc in.

Start Iredale, Levitt (in a 3) NMW, N Cadden

Ekpiteta and Obita keep places.

There's 7.

Probably have to give O'Hora, Myko, Miller, Hoilett and either Newell or Kwon

Or just play the youngsters

NMW should be nowhere near the team in my opinion


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[California-Hibs]

Bursic

Rocky
Ekpiteka
Iredale

Obita
N Cadden
Levitt
Triantis
Hoilett

Myko
Gayle

[sauzee1989]

Bursic

Rocky
Ekpiteka
Iredale

Obita
N Cadden
Levitt
Triantis
Hoilett

Myko
Gayle

4-0 Dundee with that lot 👀

[greenlex]

Forecast for tomorrow is horrendous in Tayside. Snow and wind with an amber alert. Good chance the game will be off.

[Power]

Some supporter information ahead of the game tomorrow

✳️ Kick off 5:45pm
✳️ Ticket sales online only from Dundee - available up to 15 mins after kick off - https://dundeefc.co.uk/tickets-away-support/?ftredirect=1
✳️ Food kiosks cash and card
✳️ We have sold c1,000 tickets as of yesterday
✳️ Main call out is travel and weather. Keep checking travel advice for Storm Bert
✳️ Roadworks on A90 north of Perth will add at least 20 mins to travel time
✳️ Remember resident parking zones now in place around the stadium on Matchdays

[B.H.F.C]

Forecast for tomorrow is horrendous in Tayside. Snow and wind with an amber alert. Good chance the game will be off.

Forecast on Met Office looks all right for Dundee later on. Rain during the day but no weather warning impacting Dundee. Amber warning is further inland and north.

I’d say the game will be fine, but a bit of rain with their pitch might be enough.

[HarpOnHibee]

Presumably the stats show we aren't as bad as the league table has us.


I heard Pat Nevin making the same point. Possession, balls in attacking areas, shots, expected goals, all have us midtable or thereabouts. Its the things you cant measure we seem to be rubbish at.

The stats that are recorded in a football game (with the exception of the result itself) are mostly meaningless. We're wasteful in possession, our balls into attacking areas are ineffective and our shots at goal are mostly abysmal half-chance efforts after failing to break through the opposition defence in an effective manner. We compensate for this by pushing more players forward, making it easier for opposition teams to break through our defence and score goals from very few chances.

These betting companies rely on mostly meaningless match statistics to calculate match odds. If they analyzed our games in their entirety, the odds would likely be quite different.

The table isn't lying about where we are, regardless of what a bunch of meaningless metrics would have people believe.

[Wheat Hound]

The first test of Dundees new relaid pitch....if it fails at the first test, should be a 3-0 forfeit win for the Hibees. Harry McKirdy awarded the hat trick and finally does his goal celebration on the team bus home 🙏

[Jock O]

It seems universal that everyone wants Levitt to start, often over Newell, I think that would be a mistake but admit I am probably on the Newell is much better than he normally shows side, which I appreciate in reality isn't winning us enough games.

I agree Levitt finished strongly against St Mirren and also showed some in his Motherwell appearance, however still worried about his overall game. In both appearances he really did most of his work within 10 yards of centre circle so little evidence of him being a successful no 10. Its another almost no win situation for Gray, but if he does play him and it doesn't work, we cannot really criticise him as most agree on it, if not maybe where he plays.

I still don't think we have seen enough of Kwon, Triantis and Newell together which I thought would be very strong, but no evidence to date I suppose so can totally understand if Gray does not want to risk repeating it. I think he should and possibly play Levitt also, but that would need a significant change in shape from using the wings as our main source of attack. I think it is worth a try, but then my jobs not at stake with it.

I also think Rocky deserves his place, I always did think that to be fair, but an awful lot on his shoulders to now count on him changing things, one mistake and it would all be pinned on him, regardless of others mistakes. He looked up for it when he came on last game but if he was to make an unrecovered mistake I think it could kill his career here, although in some ways it might be better to bring him back away from home to start with.

I though C Cadden looked way out of it last week, and would always choose Miller but I believe last time he looked really tired on his return. Not sure if that was because of the link up on the right not being strong enough last time leaving Cadden exposed, but I honestly thought he looked personally way off his best game Again maybe need to think of other positions before deciding that one.

I would also play Hoillett before N Cadden but that is definitely based on potential threat rather than last game, Cadden definitely looked up for it.

Its a killer for Gray with big decisions and despite what we all like to think, I don't think they are easy decisions. Another one where players really need to stand up and be counted whoever he chooses, we should have 13/14 players more than capable of giving Dundee a game, and they need to really do it.

Another game also where he has to be really thoughtful on subs too, whoever he leaves out he needs to be sure he gets them geed up to play a part.

Whew, wtf would be a football manager.....

[Exuberance1875]

Bursic

Rocky
Ekpiteka
Iredale

Obita
N Cadden
Levitt
Triantis
Hoilett

Myko
Gayle

Where does Nicky Cadden play in this formation?

[Alfred E Newman]

Bursic

Rocky
Ekpiteka
Iredale

Obita
N Cadden
Levitt
Triantis
Hoilett

Myko
Gayle

You forgot the smiley face . That line up is frightening.

[Hiber-nation]

Where does Nicky Cadden play in this formation?

Right centre mid it looks like with Obita at right wing back. Bizarre!

[HIBS NUTS]

It’s looking likely the game will be off, weather warnings for snow, wind then rain,travel disruptions almost certain.😞

[B.H.F.C]

It’s looking likely the game will be off, weather warnings for snow, wind then rain,travel disruptions almost certain.😞

The only thing that will prevent the game going ahead is if their new pitch can’t handle the rainfall.

[Since90+2]

The only thing that will prevent the game going ahead is if their new pitch can’t handle the rainfall.

They could potentially consider safety for fans travelling to the game. I think the met office have amber warnings out advising against travel so that could be a factor.

[Hiber-nation]

They could potentially consider safety for fans travelling to the game. I think the met office have amber warnings out advising against travel so that could be a factor.

The amber warning is for Perthshire according to BBC news. The route up looks ok unless there's any flooding.

[B.H.F.C]

The amber warning is for Perthshire according to BBC news. The route up looks ok unless there's any flooding.

I know the route up is through part of Perthshire but the amber warning is for further inland and north. And there is no warnings at all impacting Dundee itself. I can’t see any issues unless it’s with their pitch.

[Hiber-nation]

I know the route up is through part of Perthshire but the amber warning is for further inland and north. And there is no warnings at all impacting Dundee itself. I can’t see any issues unless it’s with their pitch.

Yeah I think it'll be on if the pitch is ok which is a pity as the comfort of my living room with a beer is looking quite tempting 😁

[Centre Hawf]

Quite a heavy amount of sleety/snow coming down now in Edinburgh. Not sure how long it'll last but can imagine if it stays like this until the late afternoon there could be a bit of a disruption to travel.

[hibsbollah]

Quite a heavy amount of sleety/snow coming down now in Edinburgh. Not sure how long it'll last but can imagine if it stays like this until the late afternoon there could be a bit of a disruption to travel.

In my corner of south edinburgh theres definitely snow, not sleet as was forecast, and it looks swirling and its lying. Definitely worse than predicted at this point.

[HibbyAndy]

Winter wonderland in Penicuik , Lashing doon with snow and lying

[Centre Hawf]

In my corner of south edinburgh theres definitely snow, not sleet as was forecast, and it looks swirling and its lying. Definitely worse than predicted at this point.

Agree, it started as quite sleety round my part but as the time has gone on in the last hour it's developed to full on snow thats lying. Seen some photos of mates through west that have it quite thick so wouldn't be surprised if a lot of today's games are in jeopardy.

[Joe6-2]

LRT buses off

[Blaster]

LRT buses off

Who came on?

[HibbyAndy]

Who came on?

Jordi Cruyff on the 47 :greengrin

[Blaster]

Jordi Cruyff on the 47 :greengrin

😂😂