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KWJ
09-11-2024, 05:25 PM
Gotta start every game going forward.

Our only player able to pass the ball forward through the middle.

He's not the Messiah and has weaknesses but he's the best footballer on the team. Which is depressing AF.

CL0762
09-11-2024, 05:26 PM
Only midfielder wanting to get on the ball, more than can be said for our “captain”.

lugz
09-11-2024, 05:32 PM
Same for Rocky. There's no chance I'm having he's worse than O'Hara

Unseen work
09-11-2024, 05:33 PM
He has ability, it’s never been in doubt imo

All he needs is players more willing/better at doing the dirty work around him.

Pretty Boy
09-11-2024, 05:33 PM
He played well when he came on.

He actually seems to have the ability to pass the ball quickly. Every other midfielder seems to need 3 touches and 2 intermediate passes to move the ball 10 yards. Levitt can do it in one.

He's not without his shortcomings but he's a tidy football player and capable of picking a pass that will unlock a defence. He had a couple of really good splitting passes today that weren't capitalised on.

bingo70
09-11-2024, 05:34 PM
Gotta start every game going forward.

Our only player able to pass the ball forward through the middle.

He's not the Messiah and has weaknesses but he's the best footballer on the team. Which is depressing AF.

Absolutely no coincidence we played much better in the second half when we had a midfielder who wanted the ball, got it and passed it, sometimes even forward.

He’s not the best defensively but we’ve signed a hundred boring midfielders who are work horses with limited footballing ability, let them do the ugly stuff.

The Harp Awakes
09-11-2024, 05:36 PM
Bewildering he's not been given more game time with Newell and Triantis being woeful.

B.H.F.C
09-11-2024, 05:38 PM
A good manager would find a way to use him properly IMO. Can do things that the other midfielders don’t. He has his weaknesses but in the right set up he could offer plenty IMO.

The Spaceman
09-11-2024, 05:39 PM
Looked like the only player on the park who could properly play a pass. Grim.

McGruber
09-11-2024, 05:49 PM
Levitt had been poor and found himself out the team which was fair enough. We have then had a midfield that for the entirety of the season has been poor. Perhaps not individually at times but the mix has been wrong. All similar types doing similar things. What has been lacking centrally is creativity and forward passing which is what Levitt offers. He deserves another crack but he has to do better than before.
One thing on his side is he is far better suited to playing in a midfield 3 than in a 2 which is how we have utilised him most during the period he'd been poor.

CapitalGreen
09-11-2024, 05:56 PM
Levitt was hung out to dry last season in Monty’s midfield 2 when he had to essentially play as the defensive midfielder to allow Newell to play as the playmaker. Anyone who watched him at Dun Utd when they finished 4th and he won their POTY could see he was a playmaker who needed a defensive partner (Dun Utd had Jeandro Fuchs).

S4uzee
09-11-2024, 05:59 PM
A good manager would find a way to use him properly IMO. Can do things that the other midfielders don’t. He has his weaknesses but in the right set up he could offer plenty IMO.

Totally agree, very good technically and our best passer of the ball.

The Harp Awakes
09-11-2024, 06:01 PM
Levitt was hung out to dry last season in Monty’s midfield 2 when he had to essentially play as the defensive midfielder to allow Newell to play as the playmaker. Anyone who watched him at Dun Utd when they finished 4th and he won their POTY could see he was a playmaker who needed a defensive partner (Dun Utd had Jeandro Fuchs).

Exactly. He's a playmaker who needs to play higher up the pitch. Never a defensive midfielder in a million years.

Boyle89
09-11-2024, 06:03 PM
Levitt was hung out to dry last season in Monty’s midfield 2 when he had to essentially play as the defensive midfielder to allow Newell to play as the playmaker. Anyone who watched him at Dun Utd when they finished 4th and he won their POTY could see he was a playmaker who needed a defensive partner (Dun Utd had Jeandro Fuchs).
Yeah exactly. Footballs not a difficult game if you understand it.

Cat Stanton
09-11-2024, 07:26 PM
There were no bright spots day. If you were totally scraping the barrel, Levitt was OK when he came on. But he's been awful in most games he's played.

Skol
09-11-2024, 07:29 PM
There were no bright spots day. If you were totally scraping the barrel, Levitt was OK when he came on. But he's been awful in most games he's played.

Levitt was the one bright spot for me. Not all that bright I agree, but he was the one looking to pick a pass. Some of them went astray, but he was the one that was likely to create an opening. He deserves a run, the other three. Midfielders today were very poor.

wookie70
09-11-2024, 07:31 PM
I thought he was one of the few plus points today. A midfielder that moves to give an option and can pass the ball between the lines. Given how poor Kwon is and how often he loses runners I would have Dylan in to replace him. Cadden 2 was decent when he came on too. To me we have loads of ok players. Almost like a full team of squad player and at the moment we have no shape, purpose or desire. That will be hard to change and if SDG is here for the next game he needs to start a very different 11 and try something new like two up top. It isn't getting better playing the same way with the same core of players starting

04Sauzee
09-11-2024, 07:33 PM
There were no bright spots day. If you were totally scraping the barrel, Levitt was OK when he came on. But he's been awful in most games he's played.

Thought he was more than OK.

PHeffernan
09-11-2024, 07:43 PM
Levitt was hung out to dry last season in Monty’s midfield 2 when he had to essentially play as the defensive midfielder to allow Newell to play as the playmaker. Anyone who watched him at Dun Utd when they finished 4th and he won their POTY could see he was a playmaker who needed a defensive partner (Dun Utd had Jeandro Fuchs).

Jeando Fuchs is 27 now and out of contract at the end of this season.
Currently plying his trade in Israel after an injury plagued final 18 months at Peterborough.
Could be a good foil for Levitt again after the masses leave at the end of May.

I'm_cabbaged
09-11-2024, 07:44 PM
Should be playing more advanced though and newell holding. The only player in the squad that has the ability to slide a ball through the channels. Which is a waste of ****ing time because every **** is stuck out on the ****ing wings!! Never mind, we get lots of crosses in 🤦

SHODAN
09-11-2024, 07:45 PM
Impressed with Levitt and Rocky today.

LaMotta
09-11-2024, 07:46 PM
Impressed with Levitt and Rocky today.

And Nicky Cadden - 3 of them have to start the next game.

S4uzee
09-11-2024, 07:51 PM
Impressed with Levitt and Rocky today.

Whilst Rocky did some things well there was still a lot of chaos

SHODAN
09-11-2024, 07:55 PM
Whilst Rocky did some things well there was still a lot of chaos

Yes, but he does it in a loveable sort of way.

Paul1642
09-11-2024, 08:02 PM
Yes, but he does it in a loveable sort of way.

I miss the days when Rocky’s chaos was our biggest concern. Now it’s chaos all over the park.

Skol
09-11-2024, 08:10 PM
I miss the days when Rocky’s chaos was our biggest concern. Now it’s chaos all over the park.

The chaos with rocky was less chaotic than before he appeared.

Scorrie
09-11-2024, 08:10 PM
Thought Levitt was the only positive today . At least he showed for the ball and tried to move things forward. The rest of the team , however, were woeful

GreenPJ
09-11-2024, 08:24 PM
Whilst Rocky did some things well there was still a lot of chaos

He moves and carries the ball further and quicker than O'Hora

Paul1642
09-11-2024, 08:26 PM
The chaos with rocky was less chaotic than before he appeared.

Correct. I’ve always thought he gets a lot more stick than he deserves. Decent enough player.

judas
09-11-2024, 08:28 PM
Gotta start every game going forward.

Our only player able to pass the ball forward through the middle.

He's not the Messiah and has weaknesses but he's the best footballer on the team. Which is depressing AF.

He can pass. Everything else is pants and he is not a top flight player.

silverhibee
09-11-2024, 08:29 PM
He moves and carries the ball further and quicker than O'Hora

Yip, willing to take the ball from the keeper and drive the team further up the pitch.

Paul1642
09-11-2024, 08:30 PM
He can pass. Everything else is pants and he is not a top flight player.

“He can pass”

Well that’s better than half the dross starting every other game so at least there’s an improvement there.

CMac1988
09-11-2024, 08:35 PM
He moves and carries the ball further and quicker than O'Hora

I'd be surprised if he wasn't the fastest player at the club including Boyle. Always been quick. Recovered well at one point with a solid tackle. If he'd made the mistake that O'Hora made he'd have got back to at least make an attempt at resolving himself. That's not to say he's the answer just that he's no worse than O'Hora.

As for Levitt he's always been a great passer of the ball and it was good to see his major attribute on show today with a number of good through balls. I'm not convinced but playing Kwon, Triantis and Newell who are basically all the same player in my mind is doing nothing for us and whilst I said otherwise the other week at this point someone might as well give him another shot but I'd rather he was further forward. Get Iredale in and get Rocky in front of the defence. Through balls to Mykola will be better than crossing to no **** all game.

Broken Gnome
09-11-2024, 08:41 PM
That was a relatively easy 45 for Levitt to look impressive. He was largely unchallenged against a team happy to sit back, and fairly free to pick passes.

Don't argue that he looked impressive and lively, but he'd likely not being that sort of opportunity from the start of a game. In that scenario he's failed several times before - by all means give him another try, but wouldn't be that confident of a better outcome.

Tyler Durden
09-11-2024, 09:16 PM
We’re really clutching at straws here. He did alright. We know he is a good passer.

He can’t run or hold his own physically in any way.

KWJ
09-11-2024, 09:36 PM
Should be playing more advanced though and newell holding. The only player in the squad that has the ability to slide a ball through the channels. Which is a waste of ****ing time because every **** is stuck out on the ****ing wings!! Never mind, we get lots of crosses in 🤦

Shame we can't have him passing to himself 😔

random sub
09-11-2024, 11:29 PM
Same for Rocky. There's no chance I'm having he's worse than O'Hara
Agree 💯 Ohara is deceptively average, Rocky might not be a problem after all

overdrive
10-11-2024, 12:42 AM
Same for Rocky. There's no chance I'm having he's worse than O'Hara

Best defender at the club by far. I know he made a mistake in the second half but at least he doesn’t treat the ball like a ****** hot potato like the two losers we start with

JohnM1875
10-11-2024, 12:45 AM
Best defender at the club by far. I know he made a mistake in the second half but at least he doesn’t treat the ball like a ****** hot potato like the two losers we start with

Marv is comfortably the best defender at the club. Better than Rocky. Thought Marv was one of the few pass marks today.

O’Hora was and has been stinking though, agree.

CapitalGreen
10-11-2024, 12:59 AM
Best defender at the club by far. I know he made a mistake in the second half but at least he doesn’t treat the ball like a ****** hot potato like the two losers we start with

Our defensive record when Rocky has played over the last 2.5 years is horrendous. Today was a bad day defensively but there is absolutely nothing to suggest we are better when Rocky plays.

tonyrougier123
10-11-2024, 02:02 AM
Ohora is awful! Who recommended him to us, truly one of the worst cbs I’ve seen and hibs have had many.

Unseen work
10-11-2024, 06:37 AM
Ohora is awful! Who recommended him to us, truly one of the worst cbs I’ve seen and hibs have had many.

It just blows my mind that he regularly played right if a black three and was highly rated

We sign him and put him left of a middle 2

The Spaceman
10-11-2024, 06:40 AM
Marv is comfortably the best defender at the club. Better than Rocky. Thought Marv was one of the few pass marks today.

O’Hora was and has been stinking though, agree.

Agreed - Ekpiteta had a bad start to the season, but past 6-7 games he’s been really solid. He’s good defensively, a handful aerially, and his passing seems to have improved.

The Modfather
10-11-2024, 06:45 AM
Our defensive record when Rocky has played over the last 2.5 years is horrendous. Today was a bad day defensively but there is absolutely nothing to suggest we are better when Rocky plays.

Rocky isn’t the answer, but I like him. Had to play on the left all of last season but he has natural drive and a willingness to try and get us up the park. I think that masks some of the woeful failings of of our midfield, though probably not enough to mitigate the costly mistakes he makes.

Carheenlea
10-11-2024, 06:47 AM
A midfield bereft of guile and craft.

Limited to working the squad he has until January, I’m certain the new manager will find a place for Levitt as a starter.

Allant1981
10-11-2024, 06:54 AM
A midfield bereft of guile and craft.

Limited to working the squad he has until January, I’m certain the new manager will find a place for Levitt as a starter.

Levitt has done nothing in a hibs top under the managers since he signed to warrant a place, he has been crap the same as the rest of the midfield

KeithTheHibby
10-11-2024, 07:03 AM
Levitt has done nothing in a hibs top under the managers since he signed to warrant a place, he has been crap the same as the rest of the midfield

I’m not convinced Levitt has ever played his best position at Hibs. And even when he does play it’s the odd sporadic appearance then usually hooked meanwhile we continue to play the triplets week in week out who are basically all the same type of player. That’s on Gray, no-one else.

Allant1981
10-11-2024, 07:08 AM
I’m not convinced Levitt has ever played his best position at Hibs. And even when he does play it’s the odd sporadic appearance then usually hooked meanwhile we continue to play the triplets week in week out who are basically all the same type of player. That’s on Gray, no-one else.

He has played most of his career as a CM, 84 times accordi g to transfer market and 49 as a DM, so other teams must have had him playing the same way, for me he just isn't very good

CapitalGreen
10-11-2024, 08:24 AM
He has played most of his career as a CM, 84 times accordi g to transfer market and 49 as a DM, so other teams must have had him playing the same way, for me he just isn't very good

Role and position are not the same thing, 2 players can play in the same position in midfield but have completely different responsibilities. For example, Pirlo and Makelele both played deep in midfield but had completely different roles in that position. Transfermarkt only indicates a players position, not their role. Levitt’s best role is as a playmaker but he has rarely been used in that role by us when partnered with Newell.

Unseen work
26-11-2024, 03:20 PM
Needs to start tonight imo

Don’t think he’s been given a fair shot under Geay whatsoever

Last two games he’s came on, got on the ball and used it really well. More than can be said for others

He has the ability to find forwards, switch play, play a through ball or score from range

Get him in

Hibees1973
26-11-2024, 03:22 PM
Bewildering he's not been given more game time with Newell and Triantis being woeful.

Can include Kwon & Campbell as well who play before Levitt.

Levitt is one of those rumoured to be on £6k - £7k a week.

Centre Hawf
26-11-2024, 03:31 PM
Think I'd start him tonight. I'm not convinced on him but at this point we're just fumbling in the dark trying to find a line up that works.

But in my opinion the reason Gray isn't playing him is he just plainly doesn't rate him. I think he's probably one of the players the club will be actively trying to shift in January or the summer coming, he just probably hasn't been told he's surplus to requirements at the moment like a few others seem to have been,

SHODAN
26-11-2024, 03:40 PM
Levitt is one of those rumoured to be on £6k - £7k a week.

Wish we'd had a board who would have paid stupid money for all the players Hearts and Aberdeen beat us to in the early 2010s, they were actually good.

CapitalGreen
26-11-2024, 03:50 PM
Pointless starting him if it’s going to be alongside Newell. If he’s playing he needs to be used as our playmaker and not tasked with doing the dirty work for Newell like he was under Monty.

Smartie
26-11-2024, 04:06 PM
Needs to start tonight imo

Don’t think he’s been given a fair shot under Geay whatsoever

Last two games he’s came on, got on the ball and used it really well. More than can be said for others

He has the ability to find forwards, switch play, play a through ball or score from range

Get him in

My main criticism of Gray so far is that he hasn’t been creative enough in terms of finding solutions to our obvious problems - we haven’t really varied the formation enough and there are one or two players who might consider themselves unfortunate not to have had a look at first team action.

Levitt is one of those players… and I agree, I think he’s earned a chance.

I’m far from convinced it will be a success but I don’t think Grsy is yet in a position to be able to say he’s tried almost everything.

Tyler Durden
26-11-2024, 04:08 PM
Pointless starting him if it’s going to be alongside Newell. If he’s playing he needs to be used as our playmaker and not tasked with doing the dirty work for Newell like he was under Monty.

That didn't happen did it? Nobody was tasked with doing dirty work under Monty.

I don't think we need to make any excuses for Levitt. He's had plenty of opportunities and done very little with them.

Having said all that, I'd probably start with him Kwon tonight. But out of desperation as much as anything.

CapitalGreen
26-11-2024, 04:12 PM
That didn't happen did it? Nobody was tasked with doing dirty work under Monty.

I don't think we need to make any excuses for Levitt. He's had plenty of opportunities and done very little with them.

Having said all that, I'd probably start with him Kwon tonight. But out of desperation as much as anything.

What was Levitt’s role in Monty’s 4-2-4 where Newell was our primary playmaker?

worcesterhibby
26-11-2024, 04:40 PM
What was Levitt’s role in Monty’s 4-2-4 where Newell was our primary playmaker?

official scapegoat ?
token Welshman ?