Jon Dahl Tomasson

[One Day Soon]

‘We couldn’t afford him’.

Remind me again how much we’ve pi55ed away since choosing not to go for him?

[HoboHarry]

Does it ever get tiring at all trying to find a new stick to beat Hibs with? Just curious.

[007]

‘We couldn’t afford him’.

Remind me again how much we’ve pi55ed away since choosing not to go for him?

Who are you quoting?

[Donegal Hibby]

:zzzzz!:

[Springbank]

The manager should always be the highest paid employee - a Derek McInnes is worth it, or a JDT like the OP references

We wouldn't be struggling for identity after 10 games if that sort of appointment was made

[Jock O]

Does it ever get tiring at all trying to find a new stick to beat Hibs with? Just curious.

Its become the new Soduko it seems, just as pointless and boring too!

[Since452]

Would he have been any better than LJ?

[One Day Soon]

Does it ever get tiring at all trying to find a new stick to beat Hibs with? Just curious.

Ask the people ‘running’ the club who seem to have turned self-flagellation into an art form.

[One Day Soon]

:zzzzz!:

Of course, because I didn’t post some fantastically beside-the-point defence of how everything might be alright really if we just narrow our eyes to slits and look at things sideways through our fingers while whispering prayers.

[One Day Soon]

Its become the new Soduko it seems, just as pointless and boring too!

Pointless and boring is what we are being fed routinely now as a sad excuse for a football side. We’ve played almost exactly a third of the season and we’re second bottom. We score less than a goal a game and we’ve won just one game in ten. We aren’t getting any better, we’re festering in the same way every week. At what point do you acknowledge that the building is on fire, that we started the fire ourselves, that we don’t have a clue how to put it out and that if we don’t get expert help the fire will burn the place down?

But yeah, ‘Sudoku’.

[One Day Soon]

The manager should always be the highest paid employee - a Derek McInnes is worth it, or a JDT like the OP references

We wouldn't be struggling for identity after 10 games if that sort of appointment was made

Exactly my point. But no, we wanted non-challenging yes men instead.

[LancsHibs]

‘We couldn’t afford him’.

Remind me again how much we’ve pi55ed away since choosing not to go for him?

Spot on.

[Jock O]

Pointless and boring is what we are being fed routinely now as a sad excuse for a football side. We’ve played almost exactly a third of the season and we’re second bottom. We score less than a goal a game and we’ve won just one game in ten. We aren’t getting any better, we’re festering in the same way every week. At what point do you acknowledge that the building is on fire, that we started the fire ourselves, that we don’t have a clue how to put it out and that if we don’t get expert help the fire will burn the place down?

But yeah, ‘Sudoku’.

I am not sure how any of that is relevant to my point. We could not remotely afford JDT and his backroom staff, that were from my understanding non negotiable as part of the deal, It was a polite conversation with Hibs asking what it would take, which turned out I believe to be a significant chunk of the overall budget to which Hibs said okay but out of our league, for now. As most clubs would.

Making out he was sitting outside Easter Road with his boots on and the cones in his bag just isn't truthful or helpful, or the assumption that because he is expensive he would be successful, or even he would have come had we offered him a large chunk of our playing budget to pay for him and left him less to spend. Or are you saying we should have Rangers like just went ahead?

There is not much that would convince me he was ever that interested anyway, but lets trust the press shall we.

[we are hibs]

I am not sure how any of that is relevant to my point. We could not remotely afford JDT and his backroom staff, that were from my understanding non negotiable as part of the deal, It was a polite conversation with Hibs asking what it would take, which turned out I believe to be a significant chunk of the overall budget to which Hibs said okay but out of our league, for now. As most clubs would.

Making out he was sitting outside Easter Road with his boots on and the cones in his bag just isn't truthful or helpful, or the assumption that because he is expensive he would be successful, or even he would have come had we offered him a large chunk of our playing budget to pay for him and left him less to spend. Or are you saying we should have Rangers like just went ahead?

There is not much that would convince me he was ever that interested anyway, but lets trust the press shall we.

Nice story but he made it to the final 2 on the shortlist.

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[One Day Soon]

Nice story but he made it to the final 2 on the shortlist.

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You with your reality and that.

[One Day Soon]

I am not sure how any of that is relevant to my point. We could not remotely afford JDT and his backroom staff, that were from my understanding non negotiable as part of the deal, It was a polite conversation with Hibs asking what it would take, which turned out I believe to be a significant chunk of the overall budget to which Hibs said okay but out of our league, for now. As most clubs would.

Making out he was sitting outside Easter Road with his boots on and the cones in his bag just isn't truthful or helpful, or the assumption that because he is expensive he would be successful, or even he would have come had we offered him a large chunk of our playing budget to pay for him and left him less to spend. Or are you saying we should have Rangers like just went ahead?

There is not much that would convince me he was ever that interested anyway, but lets trust the press shall we.

Hibernian FC: can’t afford a decent manager we had clearly shortlisted, can afford about five years worth of serially terrible managers and a ****load of expensive but mediocre player signings and all the wasted wages and signing fees that went with those. But then suddenly we can afford £1 million plus the salary for the player we DIDNT sign?

Talk about penny wise and pound daft. And we’re expected to collude in believing this delusional tin-foil hat perspective? They are taking us for a ride.

[hibsforeurope]

I don't think it was not affording him, it was the Board didn't want to change the structure to appoint the DOF/sporting director JDT wanted to bring in.

[ekhibee]

I don't think it was not affording him, it was the Board didn't want to change the structure to appoint the DOF/sporting director JDT wanted to bring in.

Not having a go at you mate at all, but how do you know that?

[Jock O]

Hibernian FC: can’t afford a decent manager we had clearly shortlisted, can afford about five years worth of serially terrible managers and a ****load of expensive but mediocre player signings and all the wasted wages and signing fees that went with those. But then suddenly we can afford £1 million plus the salary for the player we DIDNT sign?

Talk about penny wise and pound daft. And we’re expected to collude in believing this delusional tin-foil hat perspective? They are taking us for a ride.

Based on that theory if we hadn't bought any players or new managers since the Gordon's bought the club we could now afford Pep, who is probably waiting on the call. Or if we never made any mistakes along the way we would all be perfectly happy. Not sure which is least likely.

I haven't seen any evidence of him being remotely short listed, just like I have reasonable information to support my understanding. Normally all my info is either from on here, scary I know, or Longbangers, even scarier. So happy to believe in this one from chat outside.

[21May16]

Based on that theory if we hadn't bought any players or new managers since the Gordon's bought the club we could now afford Pep, who is probably waiting on the call. Or if we never made any mistakes along the way we would all be perfectly happy. Not sure which is least likely.

I haven't seen any evidence of him being remotely short listed, just like I have reasonable information to support my understanding. Normally all my info is either from on here, scary I know, or Longbangers, even scarier. So happy to believe in this one from chat outside.


He spoke to the club, wanted to bring in his own coaches as well as recruitment staff and we decided to go with Johnson.

[hibsforeurope]

Not having a go at you mate at all, but how do you know that?

It was something i was told/read, can't find where now.

but searching for it has certainly opened up old wounds.

[Jock O]

He spoke to the club, wanted to bring in his own coaches as well as recruitment staff and we decided to go with Johnson.

And the cost was going to be way beyond what we could/should pay and we said no thank you. Which was my original post

I still think he would have chose Blackburn over us if it came to a choice between the two.

[we are hibs]

He spoke to the club, wanted to bring in his own coaches as well as recruitment staff and we decided to go with Johnson.Because Johnson was willing to work with Ian Gordon as head of recruitment. JDT wasn't.

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[21May16]

And the cost was going to be way beyond what we could/should pay and we said no thank you. Which was my original post

I still think he would have chose Blackburn over us if it came to a choice between the two.

He was in the final two when it came to appointing him. It seems a bit daft him being in the final two if we couldn't afford him in the first place, spend time negotiating salaries, player budgets, what he could bring to the club etc then look at the finances. The biggest stumbling block was the head of recruitment, the head of recruitment he took to blackburn with him - the board refused....we had Ian...

But then I remember the Luke McCowan this summer and all of the above makes perfect sense. Instead of absolutely no back up we got Lee Johnson.

[21May16]

Because Johnson was willing to work with Ian Gordon as head of recruitment. JDT wasn't.

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:agree:

[Hibiza]

Would he have been any better than LJ?

Most definitely . One that got away.

[Hibiza]

Would he have been any better than LJ?

Most definitely . The one that got away.

[MWHIBBIES]

The manager should always be the highest paid employee - a Derek McInnes is worth it, or a JDT like the OP references

We wouldn't be struggling for identity after 10 games if that sort of appointment was made

Why should the manager be the highest paid employee? If anything, a system would be in place where the manager is just coaching and picking a team, and helping recruitment. Building everything around the manager isn't so common now.

[TrinityHFC]

Most definitely . One that got away.

Easy to say though eh? No guarantee at all he'd have done any better and he'd equally have been hounded at the earliest sign of things not going well.

[21May16]

Easy to say though eh? No guarantee at all he'd have done any better and he'd equally have been hounded at the earliest sign of things not going well.

What manager ever gets hounded out at the first sign of it not going well like? It’s a myth to bash people with and claim we have an unreasonable support. Don’t say Jack Ross, your pals the Gordon’s wanted him gone, nothing to do with the support hounding him.

JDT is the manager of Sweden having done a great job with Blackburn. LJ is unemployed sacked off Fleetwood.

[CapitalGreen]

Lee Johnson improved Hibs more than JDT improved Blackburn Rovers.

Blackburn Rovers a have improved this season after replacing JDT with John Eustace.

[21May16]

Lee Johnson improved Hibs more than JDT improved Blackburn Rovers.

Blackburn Rovers a have improved this season after replacing JDT with John Eustace.

Only because of the Maloney disaster in the middle of Ross getting sacked. If you are trying to claim Johnson done better for Hibs than JDT done for Blackburn you are a long way off.

[TrinityHFC]

What manager ever gets hounded out at the first sign of it not going well like? It’s a myth to bash people with and claim we have an unreasonable support. Don’t say Jack Ross, your pals the Gordon’s wanted him gone, nothing to do with the support hounding him.

JDT is the manager of Sweden having done a great job with Blackburn. LJ is unemployed sacked off Fleetwood.

Gray has been getting it since our first slip up v Kelly. Johnson was hounded after getting us into Europe. Most wanted him gone well before he got there. Ross got hounded for his first bad run. Of course it happens.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Gray has been getting it since our first slip up v Kelly. Johnson was hounded after getting us into Europe. Most wanted him gone well before he got there. Ross got hounded for his first bad run. Of course it happens.

It’s a complete myth that it was Jack Ross’ first bad run.

For example, Boxing Day 2020 to 27 January 2021 he managed 1 win, 1 draw, 5 defeats, culminating in a cup semi final 3-0 skudding to St Johnstone. That’s a bad run if I’ve ever seen one and was probably the start of people being fed up of him. So much like the idea he had ‘one bad run’ the apathy towards him didn’t start off the back of one defeat at Hampden either, it started off the back of a really bad run that ended in a Hampden defeat

He also showed an incredible knack of throwing in some utter horror shows, such as the 1-3 home defeat to bottom of the table Hearts to pretty much cost us top 6 and the other Hampden disaster classes, so whilst they weren’t part of ‘bad runs’ as such, it certainly wasn’t constant smooth sailing as the ‘first bad run’ statement gives the impression of.

People can argue all they like about whether he deserved to be sacked or not. He wasn’t sacked after his first bad run though.

[PatHead]

The manager should always be the highest paid employee - a Derek McInnes is worth it, or a JDT like the OP references

We wouldn't be struggling for identity after 10 games if that sort of appointment was made

Rubbish. Do you think Ronaldo, Messi or other star players got less than the manager?

[21May16]

Gray has been getting it since our first slip up v Kelly. Johnson was hounded after getting us into Europe. Most wanted him gone well before he got there. Ross got hounded for his first bad run. Of course it happens.

You could call the Kelty embarrassment a slip up, most fair minded normal people thought it was a legitimate reason we could be out the first cup of the season early. Since then we have been atrocious. There’s been no good run for fans to then unreasonably as you try to claim we then turn. And even now SDG has the support of the support even when performances don’t resemble anything like acceptable for a club aspiring to be third or fourth.

Lee Johnson lost the support with his derby pumpings before Europe. Then he had the chance to rectify it beating a ten man **** team that they had for more than half the match to finish ahead of them and couldn’t.

Jack Ross, wrongly binned by the Gordon’s. It didn’t matter a hell what the support thought, the support did get bought in by the ***** they said about being far and away the third force in Scotland and perhaps got excited about what our new owners could bring in. Belgian cone boy wasn’t the expected result.

[jakeshibs]

Does it ever get tiring at all trying to find a new stick to beat Hibs with? Just curious.


well said

[One Day Soon]

well said

You’re right, everything’s going fantastically well and has been for years.

[Ribs1875]

Jack Ross should have been emptied after we got beat in the final to St Johnstone.

Lee Johnson, Shaun Maloney and Nick Montgomery although all highly rated coaches were poor choices for the managers job.

[MWHIBBIES]

Jack Ross should have been emptied after we got beat in the final to St Johnstone.

Lee Johnson, Shaun Maloney and Nick Montgomery although all highly rated coaches were poor choices for the managers job.

McLeish should've been emptied after we got beat in the final by Celtic.

Mowbray should've been emptied after we got beat in the semi by Dundee United.

[Jones28]

McLeish should've been emptied after we got beat in the final by Celtic.

Mowbray should've been emptied after we got beat in the semi by Dundee United.

And Stubbs after losing to Falkirk in the 2014 semi.

[Cooshed Kid]

There's no suggestion JDT is currently angling to replace SDG but you'll have seen the Sun ran a fanciful story that Roy Keane is waiting in the wings. I don't for a moment believe that anyone will be replacing SDG in the near future or that the owners would dare contemplate letting anyone as forceful as RK have any role at the club..........but I have this picture of him in my mind standing in the centre circle at ER on top of a pile of quivering green and white-clad bodies shouting to the stands Gladiator-style "Are you not entertained?". Anyone giving less than 100% for the club would be eviscerated. One can dream.

[J-C]

There's no suggestion JDT is currently angling to replace SDG but you'll have seen the Sun ran a fanciful story that Roy Keane is waiting in the wings. I don't for a moment believe that anyone will be replacing SDG in the near future or that the owners would dare contemplate letting anyone as forceful as RK have any role at the club..........but I have this picture of him in my mind standing in the centre circle at ER on top of a pile of quivering green and white-clad bodies shouting to the stands Gladiator-style "Are you not entertained?". Anyone giving less than 100% for the club would be eviscerated. One can dream.

BK group were quick to empty the manager and bring in their own at Bournemouth, if they're allowed control of the footballing side of things, they'll bring in their own guy, especially if reports suggest they were not happy with MM and DG appointments.