CathroMustStay
27-10-2024, 04:46 PM
As of today, our total post-war derby record is P233 W60(25.7%) D74 (31.8%) L99 (42.5%) F265 A346 GD -81
This can be outlined through various periods, over the past 78 years...
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1946/47-1952/53 = Positive Trajectory (7 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (Hugh Shaw's Famous Five champions) x3
-2nd place x3
-3rd place x1
Managers = Willie McCartney (1936-1948), Hugh Shaw (1948-1961)
Edinburgh derby record = P16 W5(31%) D1(7%) L10(62%) F26 A30 GD -4
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1953/54-1962/63 = Negative Trajectory (10 seasons):
League finishes:
-4th place x1
-5th place x2
-7th place x1
-8th place x2
-9th place x2
-10th place x1
-16th place x1
Managers = Hugh Shaw (1948-1961), Walter Galbraith (1961-1964)
Edinburgh derby record = P24 W5(20.5%) D3(12.5%) L16(67%) F33 A72 GD -39
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1963/64-1975/76 = Positive Trajectory (13 seasons):
League finishes:
-2nd place x2
-3rd place x4
-4th place x2
-5th place x1
-6th place x1
-10th place x1
-12th place x2
*Won 1972/73 League Cup
Managers = Walter Galbraith (1961-1964), Jock Stein (1964-1965), Bob Shankly (1965-1969), Willie MacFarlane (1969-1970), Dave Ewing (1970-1971), Eddie Turnbull (1971-1980)
Edinburgh derby record = P30 W15(50%) D9(30%) L6(20%) F50 A28 GD +22
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1976/77-1990/91 = Negative Trajectory (15 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (2nd tier champions) x1
-4th place x1
-5th place x2
-6th place x3
-7th place x3
-8th place x2
-9th place x2
-10th place (relegation) x1
Managers = Eddie Turnbull (1971-1980), Willie Ormond (1980), Bertie Auld (1980-1982), Pat Stanton (1982-1984), John Blackley (1984-1986), Alex Miller (1986-1996)
Edinburgh derby record = P41 W7(17%) D17(41.5%) L17(41.5%) F41 A58 GD -17
*Wallace Mercer failed to kill us in summer of 1990
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1991/92-1994/95 = Mixed Trajectory (4 seasons):
League finishes:
-3rd place x1
-5th place x2
-7th place x1
*Won 1991/92 League Cup
Manager = Alex Miller (1986-1996)
Edinburgh derby record = P17 W3(17%) D7(41.5%) L7(41.5%) F10 A14 GD -4
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1995/96-1997/98 = Negative Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes :
-5th place x1
-9th place x1
-10th place (relegation) x1
Managers = Alex Miller (1986-1996), Jim Duffy (1997-1998), Alex McLeish (1998-2001)
Edinburgh derby record = P12 W2(16.6%) D4(33.4%) L6(50%) F11 A20 GD -9
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1998/99-2000/01 = Positive Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (2nd tier champions) x1
-3rd place x1
-6th place x1
Manager = Alex McLeish (1998-2001)
Edinburgh derby record = P8 W3(37.5%) D4(50%) L1(12.5%) F15 A7 GD +8
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2001/02-2003/04 = Negative Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes:
-7th place x1
-8th place x1
-10th place x1
Managers = Alex McLeish (1998-2001), Franck Sauzee (2001-2002), Bobby Williamson (2002-2004)
Edinburgh derby record = P9 W2(22.2%) D3(33.4%) L4(44.4%) F12 A18 GD -6
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2004/05-2006/07 = Positive Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes:
-3rd place x1
-4th place x1
-6th place x1
*Won 2006/07 League Cup
Managers = Tony Mowbray (2004-2006), John Collins (2006-2007)
Edinburgh derby record = P14 W4(28%) D3(22%) L7(50%) F16 A27 GD -11
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2007/08-2013/14 = Negative Trajectory (7 seasons):
League finishes:
-4th place x1
-6th place x2
-7th place x1
-10th place x1
-11th place x1
-11th place (relegation) x1
Managers = John Collins (2006-2007); Mixu Paatelainen (2008-2009), John Hughes (2009-2010), Colin Calderwood (2010-2011), Pat Fenlon (2011-2013), Terry Butcher (2013-2014)
Edinburgh derby record = P28 W6(22%) D9(32%) L13(46%) F19 A34 GD -15
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2014/15-2018/19 = Positive Trajectory (5 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (2nd tier champions) x1
-2nd place (2nd tier) x1
-3rd place (2nd tier) x1
-4th place x1
-5th place x1
*Won 2015/16 Scottish Cup
Managers = Alan Stubbs (2014-2016), Neil Lennon (2016-2019), Paul Heckingbottom (2019)
Edinburgh derby record = P17 W6(36%) D7(40%) L4(24%) F18 A13 GD +5
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2019/20-Present = Negative Trajectory (5.25 seasons):
League finishes:
-3rd place x1
-5th place x1
-7th place x1
-8th place x2
[Currently 12th place after 9 league games]
Managers = Paul Heckingbottom (2019), Jack Ross (2019-2021), Shaun Maloney (2021-2022), Lee Johnson (2022-2023), Nick Montgomery (2023-2024), David Gray (2024-present)
Edinburgh derby record = P17 W2(12%) D7(41%) L8(47%) F14 A25 GD -11
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Since December 26th 2019, when a Boyle double secured a 2-0 win at Tynecastle, we have won 1 of our last 15 Edinburgh derbies. This is an absolute disgrace and everyone at the club should reflect on how things have spiralled to such low depths. Our current place at the bottom of the table is nothing more than we deserve.
As the above history illustrates, post-war the Yams have had a psychological edge over us and it's something that shouldn't be tolerated for the second biggest rivalry in Scottish football.
This can be outlined through various periods, over the past 78 years...
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1946/47-1952/53 = Positive Trajectory (7 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (Hugh Shaw's Famous Five champions) x3
-2nd place x3
-3rd place x1
Managers = Willie McCartney (1936-1948), Hugh Shaw (1948-1961)
Edinburgh derby record = P16 W5(31%) D1(7%) L10(62%) F26 A30 GD -4
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1953/54-1962/63 = Negative Trajectory (10 seasons):
League finishes:
-4th place x1
-5th place x2
-7th place x1
-8th place x2
-9th place x2
-10th place x1
-16th place x1
Managers = Hugh Shaw (1948-1961), Walter Galbraith (1961-1964)
Edinburgh derby record = P24 W5(20.5%) D3(12.5%) L16(67%) F33 A72 GD -39
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1963/64-1975/76 = Positive Trajectory (13 seasons):
League finishes:
-2nd place x2
-3rd place x4
-4th place x2
-5th place x1
-6th place x1
-10th place x1
-12th place x2
*Won 1972/73 League Cup
Managers = Walter Galbraith (1961-1964), Jock Stein (1964-1965), Bob Shankly (1965-1969), Willie MacFarlane (1969-1970), Dave Ewing (1970-1971), Eddie Turnbull (1971-1980)
Edinburgh derby record = P30 W15(50%) D9(30%) L6(20%) F50 A28 GD +22
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1976/77-1990/91 = Negative Trajectory (15 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (2nd tier champions) x1
-4th place x1
-5th place x2
-6th place x3
-7th place x3
-8th place x2
-9th place x2
-10th place (relegation) x1
Managers = Eddie Turnbull (1971-1980), Willie Ormond (1980), Bertie Auld (1980-1982), Pat Stanton (1982-1984), John Blackley (1984-1986), Alex Miller (1986-1996)
Edinburgh derby record = P41 W7(17%) D17(41.5%) L17(41.5%) F41 A58 GD -17
*Wallace Mercer failed to kill us in summer of 1990
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1991/92-1994/95 = Mixed Trajectory (4 seasons):
League finishes:
-3rd place x1
-5th place x2
-7th place x1
*Won 1991/92 League Cup
Manager = Alex Miller (1986-1996)
Edinburgh derby record = P17 W3(17%) D7(41.5%) L7(41.5%) F10 A14 GD -4
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1995/96-1997/98 = Negative Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes :
-5th place x1
-9th place x1
-10th place (relegation) x1
Managers = Alex Miller (1986-1996), Jim Duffy (1997-1998), Alex McLeish (1998-2001)
Edinburgh derby record = P12 W2(16.6%) D4(33.4%) L6(50%) F11 A20 GD -9
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1998/99-2000/01 = Positive Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (2nd tier champions) x1
-3rd place x1
-6th place x1
Manager = Alex McLeish (1998-2001)
Edinburgh derby record = P8 W3(37.5%) D4(50%) L1(12.5%) F15 A7 GD +8
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2001/02-2003/04 = Negative Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes:
-7th place x1
-8th place x1
-10th place x1
Managers = Alex McLeish (1998-2001), Franck Sauzee (2001-2002), Bobby Williamson (2002-2004)
Edinburgh derby record = P9 W2(22.2%) D3(33.4%) L4(44.4%) F12 A18 GD -6
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2004/05-2006/07 = Positive Trajectory (3 seasons):
League finishes:
-3rd place x1
-4th place x1
-6th place x1
*Won 2006/07 League Cup
Managers = Tony Mowbray (2004-2006), John Collins (2006-2007)
Edinburgh derby record = P14 W4(28%) D3(22%) L7(50%) F16 A27 GD -11
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2007/08-2013/14 = Negative Trajectory (7 seasons):
League finishes:
-4th place x1
-6th place x2
-7th place x1
-10th place x1
-11th place x1
-11th place (relegation) x1
Managers = John Collins (2006-2007); Mixu Paatelainen (2008-2009), John Hughes (2009-2010), Colin Calderwood (2010-2011), Pat Fenlon (2011-2013), Terry Butcher (2013-2014)
Edinburgh derby record = P28 W6(22%) D9(32%) L13(46%) F19 A34 GD -15
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2014/15-2018/19 = Positive Trajectory (5 seasons):
League finishes:
-1st place (2nd tier champions) x1
-2nd place (2nd tier) x1
-3rd place (2nd tier) x1
-4th place x1
-5th place x1
*Won 2015/16 Scottish Cup
Managers = Alan Stubbs (2014-2016), Neil Lennon (2016-2019), Paul Heckingbottom (2019)
Edinburgh derby record = P17 W6(36%) D7(40%) L4(24%) F18 A13 GD +5
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2019/20-Present = Negative Trajectory (5.25 seasons):
League finishes:
-3rd place x1
-5th place x1
-7th place x1
-8th place x2
[Currently 12th place after 9 league games]
Managers = Paul Heckingbottom (2019), Jack Ross (2019-2021), Shaun Maloney (2021-2022), Lee Johnson (2022-2023), Nick Montgomery (2023-2024), David Gray (2024-present)
Edinburgh derby record = P17 W2(12%) D7(41%) L8(47%) F14 A25 GD -11
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Since December 26th 2019, when a Boyle double secured a 2-0 win at Tynecastle, we have won 1 of our last 15 Edinburgh derbies. This is an absolute disgrace and everyone at the club should reflect on how things have spiralled to such low depths. Our current place at the bottom of the table is nothing more than we deserve.
As the above history illustrates, post-war the Yams have had a psychological edge over us and it's something that shouldn't be tolerated for the second biggest rivalry in Scottish football.