Positives from today

[FastEddieFelson]

We didn't get beat
We didn't have a man sent off
The display and video just before kick off were both brilliant

[SaulGoodman]

My car broke down so I couldn’t go and watch that shower of ***** let me down again.

[hibee316]

Unbeaten in 1.

Mon the Hibs!

[HarpOnHibee]

I hear the accommodations for the premium guests were exquisite.

[hibee316]

Unbeaten in 1.

Mon the Hibs!

... oh, and Saul couldn't make it to make everyone miserable :)

[SaulGoodman]

... oh, and Saul couldn't make it to make everyone miserable :)

Ach I’m a rare laugh at the games. The life of the stand, that’s me.

[Donegal Hibby]

I thought we played ok today … Hoilett looks a class act . Good to see big Myko get a goal and thought Obita had a good game .

[bingo70]

My bet came in. Triantis and Devlin to get booked, both teams to score.

The only part of the bet in doubt was whether we would score or not.

(Would obviously rather the bet never came in but if we’re looking for positives)

[McGruber]

Ekpiteta. Going under the radar how solid he's been. Still not great ball at feet and went too long at times. Don't mind it, let others play. He's a real solid defender. Won everything in the air. Dominated Shankland and 2 moments of danger, Vargas in, Shanlkand in, Marv there. Not getting credit he deserves from the dodgy first impressions.

[lyonhibs]

I hear the accommodations for the premium guests were exquisite.

To be fair, coming to you live from Tornadoes, they are.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Ekpiteta. Going under the radar how solid he's been. Still not great ball at feet and went too long at times. Don't mind it, let others play. He's a real solid defender. Won everything in the air. Dominated Shankland and 2 moments of danger, Vargas in, Shanlkand in, Marv there. Not getting credit he deserves from the dodgy first impressions.

Agreed. He was solid. It’s not his fault our Head Coach instructs the players to play it to him with his tactics.

[Coco Bryce]

I thought we played ok today … Hoilett looks a class act . Good to see big Myko get a goal and thought Obita had a good game .

You would!

Biggest wind-up merchant on here.

[may 21/05/2016]

I don't think yiu can have positive posts on here

Watch the usual posters pile on this post and my comment

[blackpoolhibs]

I thought we played ok today … Hoilett looks a class act . Good to see big Myko get a goal and thought Obita had a good game .

8/10?

[john rossi]

Only positive is we did not lose

[Hiber-nation]

I thought we played ok today … Hoilett looks a class act . Good to see big Myko get a goal and thought Obita had a good game .

Aw behave, we hardly played any football. The only tactic was get it to the front men by any means necessary.

What did you think of Miller's performance? And their goal?

I agree Obita was good.

[Jones28]

My IPTV stream was tip top.

[B.H.F.C]

No positives for me. Should have won the game but didn’t. It’s pish and it’s not going to change any time soon.

[Donegal Hibby]

8/10?

Your life must be full of disappointment if all you do is ask for a rating out of 10😂

[Paulie Walnuts]

Not a lot of positives. Didn’t think we were as bad as others did before we took the lead but then it was a shambles after that.

Pish poor again.

[bingo70]

Not a lot of positives. Didn’t think we were as bad as others did before we took the lead but then it was a shambles after that.

Pish poor again.

You didn’t think we were that bad in the first half?

I normally agree with you I think but I don’t know how anyone could watch us in that first half and not think we were dreadful.

[lyonhibs]

You didn’t think we were that bad in the first half?

I normally agree with you I think but I don’t know how anyone could watch us in that first half and not think we were dreadful.

The 1st half of the 2nd half was when we were "best".

1st half we actually had the better chances but back to front hoooooooofball was a grim watch. We had 2 central midfielders that offered for the ball half as often as their number 18

[Donegal Hibby]

Aw behave, we hardly played any football. The only tactic was get it to the front men by any means necessary.

What did you think of Miller's performance? And their goal?

I agree Obita was good.

Thought we had a few good moves , also went long at times too .

Probably should have had scored more in Gayles chances and Triantis one if it wasn’t offside.

As to Miller and their goal the thread title is “ positives from today “ and not the negatives . Now if it was I’d have probably brought both points up .

[Paulie Walnuts]

You didn’t think we were that bad in the first half?

I normally agree with you I think but I don’t know how anyone could watch us in that first half and not think we were dreadful.

I didn’t. I genuinely thought we were alright and as someone who’s usually negative that’ll probably surprise alot of folk. Didn’t think we were hugely exciting, but I didn’t think we were any worse than hearts. A 6/10 first half for me.

How we performed after taking the lead though was appalling. Truly dreadful stuff.

[jakedance]

It definitely could have been worse. We created some good decent chances. Restricted Hearts to fewer good chances. Some good performances. Managed not to lose. Starting line up was quite positive. I’m clutching at straws because we’re dreadful really but we maybe showed just about enough to suggest we could survive.

[AlbertK86]

Ekpiteta. Going under the radar how solid he's been. Still not great ball at feet and went too long at times. Don't mind it, let others play. He's a real solid defender. Won everything in the air. Dominated Shankland and 2 moments of danger, Vargas in, Shanlkand in, Marv there. Not getting credit he deserves from the dodgy first impressions.

Agree


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[He's here!]

Think most Hibs fans would have taken a point before the game. I certainly would have, so you could say that's a positive.

It's our inevitable conceding of a late, costly goal that makes it feel like such a downer of a result.

[Bostonhibby]

Ekpiteta. Going under the radar how solid he's been. Still not great ball at feet and went too long at times. Don't mind it, let others play. He's a real solid defender. Won everything in the air. Dominated Shankland and 2 moments of danger, Vargas in, Shanlkand in, Marv there. Not getting credit he deserves from the dodgy first impressions.Agree with that, can he play full back?[emoji6]

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[john rossi]

Only positive is we did not lose

[chrisski33]

Only positive is we did not lose

Snap

[OtleyHibs]

We still have Bowie to come back.

Looks a player from the little I've seen of him, think he'd have made a difference to our start

[superfurryhibby]

The positives were not losing.

Team showed a fair bit of fight,

Youan came back in and made a decent contribution.

The fans backed the team well.

Obita had a decent game, as did Hoilett.

JDH returned to the squad and he will add to the options in midfield.

Big Myko got a goal and hopefully that gives him a bit confidence. He's been looking a bit lost in recent games.

Gray showed some bravery picking such an attacking side, I felt that took a bit of courage.

[Spike Mandela]

None. Yet another failure to hold on to a winning position.

[random sub]

Obita was great today, as was Kwon I thought. Triantis and a few other were good. For me Gayle looked off the pace and headed two clear opportunities straight at plukey. Don’t think he should start ahead of Myko. Miller brings chaos really, not all bad but we don’t play much football around him, just punt the ball stuff akin to rugby.

[bingo70]

Ekpiteta. Going under the radar how solid he's been. Still not great ball at feet and went too long at times. Don't mind it, let others play. He's a real solid defender. Won everything in the air. Dominated Shankland and 2 moments of danger, Vargas in, Shanlkand in, Marv there. Not getting credit he deserves from the dodgy first impressions.

He’s not for me at all I’m afraid.

Defended well but he can’t kick a ball properly, there were times he just needed to pass it back to the goalie but he didn’t back himself to do so.

How can we possibly play any football when we’ve got a defender not comfortable in taking the ball and passing it into midfield? That’s really basic stuff.

I struggle to see us improving while he’s in the team, we might become less ***** than we are now but we won’t become a good team as long as we have defenders who are scared of the ball.

[Cooshed Kid]

We learned that without a doubt our team suffers from a fear of success. If we get on top we don't believe it's our right so we retreat to our own half and wait for the opposition to score at least once without reply, generally in the last 10 minutes of regular time. Occasionally we prefer to be beaten in extra time. No other team has this happen week in, week out.

Everyone involved on the playing side needs their heads examined. There's a collective lemming-like instinct for self-sabotage and self-destruction. Apologies if I have offended any lemmings by comparing them to our players.

[Crab apple]

Hoillet was the best player on the pitch which made the decision to sub him all the stranger.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Josh Campbell didn’t appear on the team sheet.

[lugz]

Despite conceding another late goal I do think that starting 11 would pick up points. Newell and Campbell should be squad players going forward. Miller and keeper the main concerns going forward.

[McGruber]

He’s not for me at all I’m afraid.

Defended well but he can’t kick a ball properly, there were times he just needed to pass it back to the goalie but he didn’t back himself to do so.

How can we possibly play any football when we’ve got a defender not comfortable in taking the ball and passing it into midfield? That’s really basic stuff.

I struggle to see us improving while he’s in the team, we might become less ***** than we are now but we won’t become a good team as long as we have defenders who are scared of the ball.

I understand what you are saying Bingo but with respect disagree. Space for a solid defender for me and what we have missed in seasons gone by. 2 full backs, O'Hora signed as a ball playing centre half and playing 2 centre mids in a pivot. Don't need them all to play the ball, don't need two Beckenbauers. If anything midfield play Marv into more trouble by not showing. Would love 11 footballers if it included the ability to defend but nah, give me.big Marv mopping up anytime and others can play. Loads of different avenues to move the ball. Not looking to change your opinion, that's just mine. Can see it both ways mind but no nonesense defender for me in the middle I'll take all day long

[Coach Jon]

I understand what you are saying Bingo but with respect disagree. Space for a solid defender for me and what we have missed in seasons gone by. 2 full backs, O'Hora signed as a ball playing centre half and playing 2 centre mids in a pivot. Don't need them all to play the ball, don't need two Beckenbauers. If anything midfield play Marv into more trouble by not showing. Would love 11 footballers if it included the ability to defend but nah, give me.big Marv mopping up anytime and others can play. Loads of different avenues to move the ball. Not looking to change your opinion, that's just mine. Can see it both ways mind but no nonesense defender for me in the middle I'll take all day long

Agree, I thought he was our best player today.

[marleyhib]

Positives:

Created chances
Did not lose to them
Attacking formation, no Campbell or Newall to bog/slow down the midfield

It's glaringly obvious that we've had a p*sh midfield for 3 or more seasons, the solution may be to not play one, i'd wager with the current squad we'd do better against the poorer teams if we did

[AlbertK86]

He’s not for me at all I’m afraid.

Defended well but he can’t kick a ball properly, there were times he just needed to pass it back to the goalie but he didn’t back himself to do so.

How can we possibly play any football when we’ve got a defender not comfortable in taking the ball and passing it into midfield? That’s really basic stuff.

I struggle to see us improving while he’s in the team, we might become less ***** than we are now but we won’t become a good team as long as we have defenders who are scared of the ball.

Maybe he didn’t back the keeper … he wasn’t the only one not content to play it back to him


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[Pretty Boy]

The positive is the point.

Few were predicting it after Hearts last 2 results and at no point did it look like we were in for a humping. We were dire today but we created the better chances and have walked away with a point that many would have taken pre match as much of a kick in the gut as the manner of it was.

It's further evidence that the league is rank. Hearts were 3rd last year and a club who were spoken about as having done good business leading into this season. They arguably moved the ball a bit better than us today but they had rope spells at the back and created next to nothing for 80+ minutes. They look every bit as blunt and lacking in ideas as we did. It's proof we don't need to be good to get out of this mess. If we can hit the dizzying heights of slightly above mediocre then we should be fine.

[JimBHibees]

It definitely could have been worse. We created some good decent chances. Restricted Hearts to fewer good chances. Some good performances. Managed not to lose. Starting line up was quite positive. I’m clutching at straws because we’re dreadful really but we maybe showed just about enough to suggest we could survive.

Fair summary pretty poor game all in thought we did create the better chances. Our lack of basic resolve really is ridiculous

[SHODAN]

We didn't concede a second in injury time.

[Since452]

We got a draw

[Broken Gnome]

The positive is the point.

Few were predicting it after Hearts last 2 results and at no point did it look like we were in for a humping. We were dire today but we created the better chances and have walked away with a point that many would have taken pre match as much of a kick in the gut as the manner of it was.

It's further evidence that the league is rank. Hearts were 3rd last year and a club who were spoken about as having done good business leading into this season. They arguably moved the ball a bit better than us today but they had rope spells at the back and created next to nothing for 80+ minutes. They look every bit as blunt and lacking in ideas as we did. It's proof we don't need to be good to get out of this mess. If we can hit the dizzying heights of slightly above mediocre then we should be fine.

I'm not sure beyond blind faith that this 'slightly above mediocre' is all that imminent.

It really was a stinking game, and from our perspective it was worryingly evident how physically and tactically unimpressive we are.

Was it that ex-hun Waghorn who p!ssed us all off when he called Hibs 'basic' during a pre-season under Stubbs? That's all you can describe Hibs as at the moment - basic, and eventually they drop points by not doing the those basics well enough.

[coldingham hibs]

Should have won 3-1 at least despite being pretty uninspiring. The late concession of the goal makes things appear worse than uninspiring. All said & done a 3-1 win wouldn’t have been unfair based on big chances missed.

[Broken Gnome]

I'd second the opening praise for the pre-match video by the way, was brilliantly done. It was almost wasted on a Sunday 12pm derby, would've had the place bouncing during a night game.

[Groathillgrump]

I thought we played ok today … Hoilett looks a class act . Good to see big Myko get a goal and thought Obita had a good game .

The day you say we didn't play well is the day that Hell freezes over! :devil:

[Stuart93]

Should have won 3-1 at least despite being pretty uninspiring. The late concession of the goal makes things appear worse than uninspiring. All said & done a 3-1 win wouldn’t have been unfair based on big chances missed.

Things aren’t “appearing worse”. They are that bad

A wild take to say “aye it should’ve been 3-1 so things just appear to be bad”

[McGruber]

Should have won 3-1 at least despite being pretty uninspiring. The late concession of the goal makes things appear worse than uninspiring. All said & done a 3-1 win wouldn’t have been unfair based on big chances missed.

Had chances but at no point had any control of the game and that's at home. Constantly chasing and on back foot but created more chances through set play - wasn't in any way good enough and looked to suffer from being poorly set up with poor tactics

[B.H.F.C]

Had chances but at no point had any control of the game and that's at home. Constantly chasing and on back foot but created more chances through set play - wasn't in any way good enough and looked to suffer from being poorly set up with poor tactics

I never felt that we were constantly chasing and on the back foot until near the end of the game. Hearts had loads of the ball but the majority of it was their centre halves and goalie passing the ball about between themselves. It reminded me of us under Montgomery. Only changed late in the game when Gray decided to go with about 47 defensive midfielders, playing in various positions, and just invite them on.

[DickieDastardly]

Thought we did ok today, given all the negativity around Hibs and the over the top praise of Hearts.
We created the better chances despite their possession stats, if we’d taken one of those late ones we’d have won the game.
Fans are justifiably nervous at the moment which filters to the players on the pitch, offset that with the Jambos who were singing “Hibs are falling part” as they scramble a late goal to stay bottom of league bar goal difference yet having played more games says it all really.
Keep the faith is my mantra for now ggtth.

DD

[Keith_M]

While it's disappointing that we once again threw away a possible win late in the game, the predictions by some posters on here that Hearts would 'annihilate' us didn't quite come to fruition.

[Coco Bryce]

It never started raining until I got home.

[Jones28]

Actually thought the defence as a collective were fine, some good blocks and Marv especially won the physical battle.

Obita is still one of the best crossers in the league.

Myko getting a goal will be great for his confidence.

Kwon was assertive and worked his socks off, Triantis was wasteful but felt the early yellow really shackled him.

Youan looked sharper.

Hoilett was MOTM for me.

For all the criticism of Grays subs I think they all did fine, Myko the goal and JDH and NMW both got about the pitch and did ok. Certainly wasn’t their fault we lost a goal.

[wookie70]

Obita was great today, as was Kwon I thought. Triantis and a few other were good. For me Gayle looked off the pace and headed two clear opportunities straight at plukey. Don’t think he should start ahead of Myko. Miller brings chaos really, not all bad but we don’t play much football around him, just punt the ball stuff akin to rugby.

I agree with Obita. Very strong and quick today. I thought Kwon was poor and hardly involved Triantis came into it a bit more in the second half but was poor in the first. Junior was the best player for us today imo. I wish our other forward players worked as hard as him and put their foot into challenges.

[lyonhibs]

Maybe he didn’t back the keeper … he wasn’t the only one not content to play it back to him


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Certainly wasn't, and no bloody surprise why.

[NAE NOOKIE]

The fans were good ... in fact I thought better than theirs, which is unusual in a derby where the away fans are usually more vocal.

Hearts won't get a bigger crowd than that this season .... sadly neither will we.

[Docker]

I never felt that we were constantly chasing and on the back foot until near the end of the game. Hearts had loads of the ball but the majority of it was their centre halves and goalie passing the ball about between themselves. It reminded me of us under Montgomery. Only changed late in the game when Gray decided to go with about 47 defensive midfielders, playing in various positions, and just invite them on.

It’s how I saw it as well. We conceded midfield and played hoofball but we were pretty comfortable with their tippy-tippy stuff going nowhere at the back. Our problems started with Gray’s substitutions sending a clear message to Hertz that we were going backs to the wall. I think it sends a negative message to our players as well and we just ended up dropping deeper and deeper to defend.

[Unseen work]

Sick of looking for positives when we’re bottom of the league with 1 win in 9

When the club gets back on track and wins a game for a change that will be a positive

[Donegal Hibby]

While it's disappointing that we once again threw away a possible win late in the game, the predictions by some posters on here that Hearts would 'annihilate' us didn't quite come to fruition.

Yip and I’d even say we were better than them , their 60 odd % possession was largely down to our press in they had nowhere to go but pass it about the back a bit like Monty had us doing ..

Think Gordon had five saves to make to Bursik’s one . We really should have finished them off today with some of the chances we had .

[flash]

While it's disappointing that we once again threw away a possible win late in the game, the predictions by some posters on here that Hearts would 'annihilate' us didn't quite come to fruition.

Not even close though you would think we had been hammered going by some of the reactions.

[B.H.F.C]

Sick of looking for positives when we’re bottom of the league with 1 win in 9

When the club gets back on track and wins a game for a change that will be a positive

That’s how I feel tonight. Nothing to feel positive about be it the game today or where this team is going.

Today was just the latest kick in the balls.

[JimBHibees]

While it's disappointing that we once again threw away a possible win late in the game, the predictions by some posters on here that Hearts would 'annihilate' us didn't quite come to fruition.

Very good point. Ultimately really frustrating we didn’t win but really should have

[PatHead]

In the build up to the game we heard how Hearts had been brilliant with their high pressure under the new manager. We obviously adapted tactics to suit and on the whole the worked
Not pretty but effective.

[McGruber]

In the build up to the game we heard how Hearts had been brilliant with their high pressure under the new manager. We obviously adapted tactics to suit and on the whole the worked
Not pretty but effective.

Effective is 3 points so not effective. This was out home game.

[Cat Stanton]

Shankland was crap.

[judas]

Gayle showed a strikers instinct and got into great position. I see goals coming there.

Gray negated Hearts high press by instructing the defence not to play out of the back and go more route 1.

On another day it would have been 4-1.

Defence was solid for all but a few minutes and Obita made their RM look very silly.

[lyonhibs]

Gayle showed a strikers instinct and got into great position. I see goals coming there.

Gray negated Hearts high press by instructing the defence not to play out of the back and go more route 1.

On another day it would have been 4-1.


The chances that would have made it 4-1 did not come from humping it long.

[7Hero]

Positives .. we can sing a song without block seven ..
Prove me wrong .

[SHODAN]

Gayle showed a strikers instinct and got into great position. I see goals coming there.

Gray negated Hearts high press by instructing the defence not to play out of the back and go more route 1.

On another day it would have been 4-1.

We haven't scored four against them in one game for over twenty years.

I'm not convinced there is another day tbh.

[lyonhibs]

Gayle showed a strikers instinct and got into great position. I see goals coming there.

Gray negated Hearts high press by instructing the defence not to play out of the back and go more route 1.

On another day it would have been 4-1.


The chances that would have made it 4-1 did not come from humping it long.

[Iain G]

Jesus still loves us

[He's here!]

Sick of looking for positives when we’re bottom of the league with 1 win in 9

When the club gets back on track and wins a game for a change that will be a positive

When it comes to derbies not losing is the top priority. Sure, it wasn't much of a game today but I'm pleased for David Gray that his side were clearly battling for him. Plenty flak still flying around and still much to be critical of at Hibs but imagine the reaction to a dismal 1-0 defeat.

Fingers crossed we can extract some confidence from this, but the County trip will tell us more about where we are.

[He's here!]

We haven't scored four against them in one game for over twenty years.

I'm not convinced there is another day tbh.

Wow, can't believe the 4-4 was more than 20 years ago!

Now THAT was what you call throwing it away...

[LustForLeith]

It was an early kick off so the football didn’t ruin too much of my day

[flash]

Jesus still loves us

"Left by mutual consent" is clearing his throat.