Malky Mackay

[McGruber]

Had been surprised not to see his name on a thread.

Brought in and 2 of his big remits, picking the manager and sorting out recruitment have gone to the dogs.

Gray sadly looks out of his depth, signings have made us worse from last season.

Some decisions that looked odd to start with and given benefit of doubt appear to now be unjustifiable.

David Marshall - what is he adding other than another wage to pay. Nicky Cadden free agent on a 3 year deal.

Could go through it signing to signing almost. Spouting the nonesense about multiple windows being required yet bringing in 12 players..and finding ourselves bottom.
Is there deadwood still there of course there is - and added to with some of the new players brought in.

Hearts next weekend - another loss coming. Can't see it playing out any other way with the mentality of this group of players. Hope we turn Hearts over obviously, but that is what it is and sure there will be the mix of posts saying a loss is inevitable, posts slating the attitude of those posters (me included) and the false bravado that will come. It's all going to end the same way.

Wonder if the axe will just fall on Gray - he's not been the only failure of this new set up

[Northernhibee]

New face in the hot seat and **** all has changed.

[Bostonhibby]

Sadly we better get used to more of the same BS as whilst the current board is around so will he be, in one role or another.

The way this clowns bicycle that is our club is currently going, as suggested elsewhere, there's every chance he will be managing the team.

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[B.H.F.C]

Another one that has plenty chat then disappears of the face of the earth when it starts going tits up.

[raeburnhibs]

Had been surprised not to see his name on a thread.

Brought in and 2 of his big remits, picking the manager and sorting out recruitment have gone to the dogs.

Gray sadly looks out of his depth, signings have made us worse from last season.

Some decisions that looked odd to start with and given benefit of doubt appear to now be unjustifiable.

David Marshall - what is he adding other than another wage to pay. Nicky Cadden free agent on a 3 year deal.

Could go through it signing to signing almost. Spouting the nonesense about multiple windows being required yet bringing in 12 players..and finding ourselves bottom.
Is there deadwood still there of course there is - and added to with some of the new players brought in.

Hearts next weekend - another loss coming. Can't see it playing out any other way with the mentality of this group of players. Hope we turn Hearts over obviously, but that is what it is and sure there will be the mix of posts saying a loss is inevitable, posts slating the attitude of those posters (me included) and the false bravado that will come. It's all going to end the same way.

Wonder if the axe will just fall on Gray - he's not been the only failure of this new set up

Mackay talked a very good game. Right now, the evidence suggests that it was just that, talk (only). Agree with pretty much everything, recruitment looking poor; goalkeeper (on Marshall I think?), Nicky Cadden, the CD partnership, the lack of decent full back recruitment, midfield and further forward better. And of course the David Gray decision. If only we can get the Black Knights to do the picks next time, maybe, just maybe, this might happen. More likely Mackay himself till the end of the season.....losing the will with Hibs. We have all been hugely patient.....

[Bostonhibby]

Like we needed another glib talker as well[emoji849]

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[Nicho87]

Has only prattled on about next season being the big rebuild

2 points with this

1) trying to give himself more time in the job from the off
2) this season is a complete write off already

I think we’ve been in a ‘transition’ ever since Jack Ross left

It’s always get to the next window and we will sort out the damage

We have lost mailoda, marcondes, youan doesn’t seem to be playing

That’s quite a bit of forward fire power that hasn’t been replaced with the same quality imo.

Again, cheap options all over the park

2 centre half’s coming in from middle to mediocre clubs in England, that was apparently the defensive issues, fixed. We’ve had one clean sheet all season. We look worse than ever conceding from crosses.

Our midfield next week will consist of two loan players.

A captain who I think the majority of fans have had enough off.

We have signed with respect a 34 year old gayle who was without a club.

Our signing highlight Bowie looks good and been unlucky there with injuries.

Overall it’s us the fans being short changed again, paying top dollar for hospitality packages, season tickets, over priced football kits and it’s inevitable that we will come bottom 6 this early on.

How depressing

[Aldo]

I mentioned this on another thread but the whole lot can go and that’s including the players, management team, owners the lot for me.

Rotten to the absolute core.

[Nicho87]

I mentioned this on another thread but the whole lot can go and that’s including the players, management team, owners the lot for me.

Rotten to the absolute core.

Spot on.

[Smartie]

I must admit, for all I think it’s predictable that the head coach should be in the firing line, if we were to be looking for a scapegoat I’d be going for the guy who has failed to provide the coach with the tools to do his job.

Can you make a decent defence out of who / what we have to choose from? Without a robust defence, how much can you ever realistically expect to achieve?

Especially when you take into consideration his “controversy”, MacKay is the one who should be taking most heat for our on field problems.

[Forza Fred]

Mackay came in and uttered the words..


“Don’t judge me on the past, judge me on what I do here”

Fair enough, I have taken you at your word.

Your appointment has NOT improved things but has certainly worsened them.

Our position in the league doubles as your report card.

You have failed Malky, and I think you should be the first to go…not the only one, but the first.

[Real Emerald]

Has only prattled on about next season being the big rebuild

2 points with this

1) trying to give himself more time in the job from the off
2) this season is a complete write off already

I think we’ve been in a ‘transition’ ever since Jack Ross left

It’s always get to the next window and we will sort out the damage

We have lost mailoda, marcondes, youan doesn’t seem to be playing

That’s quite a bit of forward fire power that hasn’t been replaced with the same quality imo.

Again, cheap options all over the park

2 centre half’s coming in from middle to mediocre clubs in England, that was apparently the defensive issues, fixed. We’ve had one clean sheet all season. We look worse than ever conceding from crosses.

Our midfield next week will consist of two loan players.

A captain who I think the majority of fans have had enough off.

We have signed with respect a 34 year old gayle who was without a club.

Our signing highlight Bowie looks good and been unlucky there with injuries.

Overall it’s us the fans being short changed again, paying top dollar for hospitality packages, season tickets, over priced football kits and it’s inevitable that we will come bottom 6 this early on.

How depressing

Yep, we have a Gaggle of players who look like an unorganised Ross County. It’s really shocking to think this is Hibs we’re talking about.

[BILLYHIBS]

Andrew Ridgeley

Everyone knows his name but no one knows what he does

His next move will be to throw SDG under the bus to save his own skin

Get rid

He can take Kensell with him

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Aberdeen have proven that with the right manager and the right structure, there is such a thing as an overnight fix.

Us? We consistently find new and less than interesting ways to get worse. Manana manana, it’ll be better next season. **** off.

Never before in the history of Hibernian have we had such staggering incompetence employed in every single senior position.

Owner(s)
CEO
Sporting Director
Head Coach
Management Staff
Captain

Every single one of them are incompetent beyond belief.

It’s easy to feel sorry for SDG given what he inherited. But you make a rod for your own back when you reward Joe Newell with an extended contract and the captaincy. You make a rod for your own back when you talk about non-negotiables and then fully three months later you are publicly questioning the desire of the players you pick. You make a rod for your own back when you talk up Josh Campbell in pre-season as a key player when you yourself have witnessed his ability, or inherent lack of, for the last few years. You compound that by picking him. You make a rod for your own back when you’re in excess of 15 games in and we still have no identificable style, zero entertainment, terrible results and absolutely no signs of progress.

Not only is an overnight fix a la Aberdeen beyond us, even slow progress seems to be beyond us.

The whole club is absolutely rotten to the core.

And as for that ****ing idiot Ian Gordon, that bumbling oaf and his family need chased out of Scotland. And he can take Ben ****ing Kensell with him. ****ing charlatans the lot of them.

[J-C]

Talks a good game and sounds like he knows what he's doing but falling way short and just a mouth piece who's blagged his way into the job, he has no past history of doing this job but in his interviews he banged on about learning the job whilst in his managerial jobs elsewhere, another like Kensell who have conned Ian Gordon.

[DiscoDirk]

As is generally the way in any business, he’s senior enough and close enough to the owner that a complete lack of ability to do his job won’t put his role at risk.

Should be gone as there is zero evidence that he has been able to deliver any positive impact. Was a questionable appointment that we likely have to live with for a while yet

[Carheenlea]

His appointment was accompanied by no end of self proclaimed boasts about his expertise for a role given a fancy title to further confuse fans of what it was he was actually going to be doing.

Talked his way into a very highly paid, suited and pensioned position in the club and haven’t heard a peep out of him since.

[eastmainsmsh]

He is the DOF so blame must lie with him and SDG is the fall guy when it goes tits up

[Brizo]

His appointment was accompanied by no end of self proclaimed boasts about his expertise for a role given a fancy title to further confuse fans of what it was he was actually going to be doing.

Talked his way into a very highly paid, suited and pensioned position in the club and haven’t heard a peep out of him since.

100%.

A failure at Ross County and in managerial terms very much yesterdays man. My fear is if / when SDG gets sacked the old-pals act kicks in and Mackay becomes our tomorrow man. I'm worried his DOF title will be another Hibs initiative that's promptly abandoned and Malky (McPherson) influences the ownership to give Malky Mackay the Head Coach job.

[Jim44]

Has only prattled on about next season being the big rebuild

2 points with this

1) trying to give himself more time in the job from the off
2) this season is a complete write off already

I think we’ve been in a ‘transition’ ever since Jack Ross left

It’s always get to the next window and we will sort out the damage

We have lost mailoda, marcondes, youan doesn’t seem to be playing

That’s quite a bit of forward fire power that hasn’t been replaced with the same quality imo.

Again, cheap options all over the park

2 centre half’s coming in from middle to mediocre clubs in England, that was apparently the defensive issues, fixed. We’ve had one clean sheet all season. We look worse than ever conceding from crosses.

Our midfield next week will consist of two loan players.

A captain who I think the majority of fans have had enough off.

We have signed with respect a 34 year old gayle who was without a club.

Our signing highlight Bowie looks good and been unlucky there with injuries.

Overall it’s us the fans being short changed again, paying top dollar for hospitality packages, season tickets, over priced football kits and it’s inevitable that we will come bottom 6 this early on.

How depressing

Unless I’ve missed it, this is first time I’ve seen his name mentioned amid all the recent wailing and gnashing of teeth. He had his weaknesses of course but I agree that our problems really kicked off when Ron Gordon, by his own admission, made the mistake of sacking him.

[Fergos]

His word salad interview on missing out on the midfielder from Dundee was an embarrassment. Head of football with zero plan B. Hes an integral part of the issue at the club. A divisive appointment to start with. He needs to go asap.

[Fergos]

Aberdeen have proven that with the right manager and the right structure, there is such a thing as an overnight fix.

Us? We consistently find new and less than interesting ways to get worse. Manana manana, it’ll be better next season. **** off.

Never before in the history of Hibernian have we had such staggering incompetence employed in every single senior position.

Owner(s)
CEO
Sporting Director
Head Coach
Management Staff
Captain

Every single one of them are incompetent beyond belief.

It’s easy to feel sorry for SDG given what he inherited. But you make a rod for your own back when you reward Joe Newell with an extended contract and the captaincy. You make a rod for your own back when you talk about non-negotiables and then fully three months later you are publicly questioning the desire of the players you pick. You make a rod for your own back when you talk up Josh Campbell in pre-season as a key player when you yourself have witnessed his ability, or inherent lack of, for the last few years. You compound that by picking him. You make a rod for your own back when you’re in excess of 15 games in and we still have no identificable style, zero entertainment, terrible results and absolutely no signs of progress.

Not only is an overnight fix a la Aberdeen beyond us, even slow progress seems to be beyond us.

The whole club is absolutely rotten to the core.

And as for that ****ing idiot Ian Gordon, that bumbling oaf and his family need chased out of Scotland. And he can take Ben ****ing Kensell with him. ****ing charlatans the lot of them.

Agreed. We are in real trouble short, medium and longer term with these idiots at the club. They all need to go.

[Real Emerald]

MM has completely failed in his role in recruiting players and manager. He hasn’t even managed to keep Hibs on a consistent path between managers, him and the people he’s employed are making us worse with zero signs of anything getting better anytime soon. They all need to go, the Black Knights are probably our only hope right now.

[tamig]

Andrew Ridgeley

Everyone knows his name but no one knows what he does

His next move will be to throw SDG under the bus to save his own skin

Get rid

He can take Kensell with him

Bit disrespectful. Wham were a four piece. Wasn’t just Dod Michael.

[KWJ]

I must admit, for all I think it’s predictable that the head coach should be in the firing line, if we were to be looking for a scapegoat I’d be going for the guy who has failed to provide the coach with the tools to do his job.

Can you make a decent defence out of who / what we have to choose from? Without a robust defence, how much can you ever realistically expect to achieve?

Especially when you take into consideration his “controversy”, MacKay is the one who should be taking most heat for our on field problems.

Exactly. His goalie fumbled the 2 goals in injury time as well as his defenders that stood about watching it unfold around them.

Where is he?

[Jones28]

Not signing a creative number 10 is killing us.

[BILLYHIBS]

Bit disrespectful. Wham were a four piece. Wasn’t just Dod Michael.

Yeah ok Gordon and Kensell can be Pepsi and Shirley then 😀

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Bit disrespectful. Wham were a four piece. Wasn’t just Dod Michael.

didn’t Andrew pocket the dosh and opt for a quieter life free of the trappings of fame.
owned a burger van at one stage.

Like the Scottish bass player from Bros - Craig somebody - steered clear of the excesses pocketed the cash and became a music producer….

maybe these guys were the ultimate “winners in life” :)

suppose all depends on perspective.

[Smartie]

Not signing a creative number 10 is killing us.

I’m not arguing that it’s not a problem… but yesterday we’d have needed 4 goals to win the game. That’s quite a burden to be placed on a number 10.

Yesterday the problems were at the other end of the park but in truth our problems appear to be in every department, arguably every position.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Worrying things (bar the odd gem in Jan) it’s a notoriously tough market so this is us until the summer to make wholesale changes. And the initial signs in a supposed better window has been mixed at best.

[Smartie]

Worrying things (bar the odd gem in Jan) it’s a notoriously tough market so this is us until the summer to make wholesale changes. And the initial signs in a supposed better window has been mixed at best.

I don’t think we’ve had a good summer window since Stubbs was at the club, almost a decade ago.

The January ones vary between acceptable and outstanding.

It’s bizarre.

[Crab apple]

100%.

A failure at Ross County and in managerial terms very much yesterdays man. My fear is if / when SDG gets sacked the old-pals act kicks in and Mackay becomes our tomorrow man. I'm worried his DOF title will be another Hibs initiative that's promptly abandoned and Malky (McPherson) influences the ownership to give Malky Mackay the Head Coach job.

Was McPherson on the board when we got relegated in 1998. Not impressed at all by him.

[Paulie Walnuts]

His appointment was accompanied by no end of self proclaimed boasts about his expertise for a role given a fancy title to further confuse fans of what it was he was actually going to be doing.

Talked his way into a very highly paid, suited and pensioned position in the club and haven’t heard a peep out of him since.

I’ve said it before but I’ve never understood the shouts about how we look to have admitted our mistakes and made steps to fix them this summer.

Mackays role is much the same as Brian McDermotts. I have no idea what changes people have seen us make that show we’ve learnt our lesson as to me, it looks like we’ve simply given the DOF style gig a new title and appointed someone in that role who’s never done it before, who’s then went on to appoint someone into the managers job who’s never done it before and appointed a guy into a technical director role who, you guessed it, has never done it before.

The Gordon’s and Kensell are clearly either too stupid, or simply unwilling to learn from their mistakes.

[GreenCastle]

Not signing a creative number 10 is killing us.


Not sure..

All before that..

A decent goalkeeper and back up
Full backs who can defend
Centre backs who can defend
Finding a captain or even a good vice captain
Having a right winger who isn’t Cadden

Then no number 10 is killing us…along without a recognised finisher (maybe Gayle)

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Was McPherson on the board when we got relegated in 1998. Not impressed at all by him.

MMcP also admitted recently in the HibsObserver that he went against the advice of Sir Alex after hearing him speak against hiring rookie managers. Yet he hired Sauzee and here we are again…

[Viva_Palmeiras]

If the McCowan transfer had come off perhaps we’d have been papering over the cracks but taken a decent step in the right direction. FWIW I don’t see not having a plan B in this instance as an issue seemed a targeted unique opportunity.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I don’t think we’ve had a good summer window since Stubbs was at the club, almost a decade ago.

The January ones vary between acceptable and outstanding.

It’s bizarre.

and what’s changed since then regarding recruitment?
… George Craig retired

Mathie had a mare in promising publicly yet failing to deliver the sale of Doig and then not landing (any?!) targets in a key window.

To rip that model up completely tho and opt for his son orchestrating….

[One Day Soon]

Had been surprised not to see his name on a thread.

Brought in and 2 of his big remits, picking the manager and sorting out recruitment have gone to the dogs.

Gray sadly looks out of his depth, signings have made us worse from last season.

Some decisions that looked odd to start with and given benefit of doubt appear to now be unjustifiable.

David Marshall - what is he adding other than another wage to pay. Nicky Cadden free agent on a 3 year deal.

Could go through it signing to signing almost. Spouting the nonesense about multiple windows being required yet bringing in 12 players..and finding ourselves bottom.
Is there deadwood still there of course there is - and added to with some of the new players brought in.

Hearts next weekend - another loss coming. Can't see it playing out any other way with the mentality of this group of players. Hope we turn Hearts over obviously, but that is what it is and sure there will be the mix of posts saying a loss is inevitable, posts slating the attitude of those posters (me included) and the false bravado that will come. It's all going to end the same way.

Wonder if the axe will just fall on Gray - he's not been the only failure of this new set up


This an outstanding post. Particularly the point on multiple windows and 12 players in then finding ourselves bottom. We are being gaslit constantly and it isn't even subtle.

[Lago]

I’ve said it before but I’ve never understood the shouts about how we look to have admitted our mistakes and made steps to fix them this summer.

Mackays role is much the same as Brian McDermotts. I have no idea what changes people have seen us make that show we’ve learnt our lesson as to me, it looks like we’ve simply given the DOF style gig a new title and appointed someone in that role who’s never done it before, who’s then went on to appoint someone into the managers job who’s never done it before and appointed a guy into a technical director role who, you guessed it, has never done it before.
The Gordon’s and Kensell are clearly either too stupid, or simply unwilling to learn from their mistakes.
When I read your post, what struck me is how hibs have, in all the important positions filled them with rookies, even down to Gray's assistant coaches, a recipe for disaster.

[One Day Soon]

And on another point. We are now at the stage where I think we are sufficiently well known to be a complete basket case of a club that we are struggling and will continue to struggle to bring in real quality players that aren't compromised in some way by a range of other 'issues'. That means that instead we will get poorer quality players or players with injuries or other background issues or players towards the end of their careers generally.

We desperately - and I mean in the water as the ship sinks desperately - in need of a serious, experienced and respected football figure to manage us. Given our financial circumstances, league positions, public image and joke squad, it is going to take an individual of some stature to convince quality to come to our clown car club.

Cheap, left-field, 'aren't we clever' employment decisions on both the management and player signing side are a big part of what got us into this mess. They sure as 5hit aren't going to get us out of it. If as owner and CE your first thought every time is 'who do we hire and how do we structure things so that people don't see that we are still pulling the strings and are the ones making a total James Hunt of it' then the spiral is just going to continue deeper and faster as a succession of your neutered yes-men fail to either call you out or deliver the goods.

[One Day Soon]

When I read your post, what struck me is how hibs have, in all the important positions filled them with rookies, even down to Gray's assistant coaches, a recipe for disaster.

That's because their prime objective is to surround themselves with people who won't rock the boat.

[Real Emerald]

And on another point. We are now at the stage where I think we are sufficiently well known to be a complete basket case of a club that we are struggling and will continue to struggle to bring in real quality players that aren't compromised in some way by a range of other 'issues'. That means that instead we will get poorer quality players or players with injuries or other background issues or players towards the end of their careers generally.

We desperately - and I mean in the water as the ship sinks desperately - in need of a serious, experienced and respected football figure to manage us. Given our financial circumstances, league positions, public image and joke squad, it is going to take an individual of some stature to convince quality to come to our clown car club.

Cheap, left-field, 'aren't we clever' employment decisions on both the management and player signing side are a big part of what got us into this mess. They sure as 5hit aren't going to get us out of it. If as owner and CE your first thought every time is 'who do we hire and how do we structure things so that people don't see that we are still pulling the strings and are the ones making a total James Hunt of it' then the spiral is just going to continue deeper and faster as a succession of your neutered yes-men fail to either call you out or deliver the goods.

So true, great post. 👍

[Bostonhibby]

Aberdeen have proven that with the right manager and the right structure, there is such a thing as an overnight fix.

Us? We consistently find new and less than interesting ways to get worse. Manana manana, it’ll be better next season. **** off.

Never before in the history of Hibernian have we had such staggering incompetence employed in every single senior position.

Owner(s)
CEO
Sporting Director
Head Coach
Management Staff
Captain

Every single one of them are incompetent beyond belief.

It’s easy to feel sorry for SDG given what he inherited. But you make a rod for your own back when you reward Joe Newell with an extended contract and the captaincy. You make a rod for your own back when you talk about non-negotiables and then fully three months later you are publicly questioning the desire of the players you pick. You make a rod for your own back when you talk up Josh Campbell in pre-season as a key player when you yourself have witnessed his ability, or inherent lack of, for the last few years. You compound that by picking him. You make a rod for your own back when you’re in excess of 15 games in and we still have no identificable style, zero entertainment, terrible results and absolutely no signs of progress.

Not only is an overnight fix a la Aberdeen beyond us, even slow progress seems to be beyond us.

The whole club is absolutely rotten to the core.

And as for that ****ing idiot Ian Gordon, that bumbling oaf and his family need chased out of Scotland. And he can take Ben ****ing Kensell with him. ****ing charlatans the lot of them.Hibs recently rarely do fix anything quickly unless it's bars, favours for the CEO's wee pals and big telly's.

There's no one who has it in them to see or do what say, Aberdeen, have and change it quickly, we over talk as we have plenty talkers but not many doers around the club.

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[Jones28]

Not sure..

All before that..

A decent goalkeeper and back up
Full backs who can defend
Centre backs who can defend
Finding a captain or even a good vice captain
Having a right winger who isn’t Cadden

Then no number 10 is killing us…along without a recognised finisher (maybe Gayle)

I think we had numerous points in the game where a creative number 10 type would have made a massive difference - all the points you make are valid too.

[SHODAN]

Hibs recently rarely do fix anything quickly unless it's bars, favours for the CEO's wee pals and big telly's.

There's no one who has it in them to see or do what say, Aberdeen, have and change it quickly, we over talk as we have plenty talkers but not many doers around the club.

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It is a good point that all of the "major" improvements to the club as a whole have been with the main aim of rewarding the richer fans and clientele, i.e. sponsors, hospitality attendees etc. Ben's mates basically.

[Ozyhibby]

It is a good point that all of the "major" improvements to the club as a whole have been with the main aim of rewarding the richer fans and clientele, i.e. sponsors, hospitality attendees etc. Ben's mates basically.

The club need to admit they were wrong, sack Mackay and Gray and go back to the BK’s with our tail between our legs. Turning them away in favour of those two looks like being one of the most stupid decisions in Scottish football for a very long time. And that’s a crowded field.


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[JimBHibees]

It is a good point that all of the "major" improvements to the club as a whole have been with the main aim of rewarding the richer fans and clientele, i.e. sponsors, hospitality attendees etc. Ben's mates basically.

More money for the club though

[Ronniekirk]

The club need to admit they were wrong, sack Mackay and Gray and go back to the BK’s with our tail between our legs. Turning them away in favour of those two looks like being one of the most stupid decisions in Scottish football for a very long time. And that’s a crowded field.


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Will the black knights still be that interested as we are nt going to be in any fit state to challenge for Europe in the lower divisions and that’s exactly where we are headed I didn’t think we could get any worse but we have ffs

[One Day Soon]

More money for the club though

That's fair, but its worth little if we have simultaneously been pissing money away with terrible signings and underperformance relative to league and Europe.

[K-Zazu]

That's because their prime objective is to surround themselves with people who won't rock the boat.

I was worried when Liam Craig and Samson came back, didn’t Mackay say they employing people because they are pals was a bad idea?

[Largshibby]

Has only prattled on about next season being the big rebuild

2 points with this

1) trying to give himself more time in the job from the off
2) this season is a complete write off already

I think we’ve been in a ‘transition’ ever since Jack Ross left

It’s always get to the next window and we will sort out the damage

We have lost mailoda, marcondes, youan doesn’t seem to be playing

That’s quite a bit of forward fire power that hasn’t been replaced with the same quality imo.

Again, cheap options all over the park

2 centre half’s coming in from middle to mediocre clubs in England, that was apparently the defensive issues, fixed. We’ve had one clean sheet all season. We look worse than ever conceding from crosses.

Our midfield next week will consist of two loan players.

A captain who I think the majority of fans have had enough off.

We have signed with respect a 34 year old gayle who was without a club.

Our signing highlight Bowie looks good and been unlucky there with injuries.

Overall it’s us the fans being short changed again, paying top dollar for hospitality packages, season tickets, over priced football kits and it’s inevitable that we will come bottom 6 this early on.

How depressing

Agree with this. I would add that Bowie was our marquee signing being properly managed back to full fitness. He’s allowed to go on meaningless Scotland duty and we lose him for the season. Weak weak management. He should have been told you’re not going until fully fit and playing regular 90 minutes.

[K-Zazu]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-manager-hunt-interest-ajax-coach-david-gray-4640685

Anyone remember this? We didn’t want to pay compensation for a manager. So we went for the cheap option and appointed a guy who had absolutely zero experience.

[matty_f]

I thought Malky was a jobs-for-the-boys appointment but was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt after hearing what he had to say about the job in his first interview.

With this type of role, it’s too early to say whether or not he’s doing a good job. The immediate appointment of David Gray was on the cards anyway, and recruitment was making the most of what had been put in place already, trying to be opportunistic, and giving Gray what he wanted while also trying to clear players out.

A Sporting Director, regardless of the individual in post, should be looking at the structure and set up that supports the head coach and other football departments - that work’s results won’t be measurable yet but we should see evidence of it in recruitment from January onwards, and in our club’s specific case, we should see more activity linked to the wider group.

I am not defending Malky specifically here, but the change that saw him come in one that undoubtedly needs time before it can be assessed and I think having a push to bin him isn’t really necessary or appropriate yet.

[superfurryhibby]

More money for the club though

I think the jury is out on the question of how long it will to cover the cost of the expenditure on facilities v how heavily used they are. In the bigger picture it makes sense. In fact given our boards footballing incompetence, probably just as well huge amounts of money have been spent on infrastructure.

[Ozyhibby]

I thought Malky was a jobs-for-the-boys appointment but was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt after hearing what he had to say about the job in his first interview.

With this type of role, it’s too early to say whether or not he’s doing a good job. The immediate appointment of David Gray was on the cards anyway, and recruitment was making the most of what had been put in place already, trying to be opportunistic, and giving Gray what he wanted while also trying to clear players out.

A Sporting Director, regardless of the individual in post, should be looking at the structure and set up that supports the head coach and other football departments - that work’s results won’t be measurable yet but we should see evidence of it in recruitment from January onwards, and in our club’s specific case, we should see more activity linked to the wider group.

I am not defending Malky specifically here, but the change that saw him come in one that undoubtedly needs time before it can be assessed and I think having a push to bin him isn’t really necessary or appropriate yet.

I’d love to know what Mackay and Marshall do when they arrive at work each day? What is their routine?


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[McD]

Agree with this. I would add that Bowie was our marquee signing being properly managed back to full fitness. He’s allowed to go on meaningless Scotland duty and we lose him for the season. Weak weak management. He should have been told you’re not going until fully fit and playing regular 90 minutes.



I don’t think a club is allowed to refuse a player going on international duty (rightly or wrongly), FIFA rules I think.


Even if players are injured the national association can have the player turn up and be assessed by the national team doctors/physios. You occasionally hear of some EPL player having to travel a distance just to show/process they’re injured, then return to their club, and the club kicking off about the players welfare and recuperation

[matty_f]

I’d love to know what Mackay and Marshall do when they arrive at work each day? What is their routine?


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I’m interested to know what you think their routine should be?

[Ozyhibby]

I’m interested to know what you think their routine should be?

I’ve no idea. It was a genuine question. Neither involved with the players day to day so what exactly are they doing?
Does a club our size really need this layer of management?

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[HarpOnHibee]

I’m interested to know what you think their routine should be?

Something effective I would imagine. Not seeing the effect though.

[Fergos]

I’m interested to know what you think their routine should be?

Hopefully not to oversee the signings of an inadequate back 4 that cant defend and a GK that hasnt played any first team football for over a season. He was a decent CB in his time too, makes it all the more bizarre.

[Carheenlea]

What other sports is the Sporting Director an expert on?

[Bostonhibby]

I’d love to know what Mackay and Marshall do when they arrive at work each day? What is their routine?


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[Chorley Hibee]

More money for the club though

We're hemorrhaging money at a rate of knots thanks to them focusing on hospitality instead of the ****show on the pitch.

The money it's bringing in isn't covering the losses.

All of the loses are down to the incompetent ********s running our club into the ground.

I wish none of the Gordon family had ever set foot in Easter Road.

[may 21/05/2016]

I thought Malky was a jobs-for-the-boys appointment but was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt after hearing what he had to say about the job in his first interview.

With this type of role, it’s too early to say whether or not he’s doing a good job. The immediate appointment of David Gray was on the cards anyway, and recruitment was making the most of what had been put in place already, trying to be opportunistic, and giving Gray what he wanted while also trying to clear players out.

A Sporting Director, regardless of the individual in post, should be looking at the structure and set up that supports the head coach and other football departments - that work’s results won’t be measurable yet but we should see evidence of it in recruitment from January onwards, and in our club’s specific case, we should see more activity linked to the wider group.

I am not defending Malky specifically here, but the change that saw him come in one that undoubtedly needs time before it can be assessed and I think having a push to bin him isn’t really necessary or appropriate yet.I agree with this post
Also I don't think we're a million miles away from having a decent team the performances have been reasonable
The only bad is the goalkeeper department
None of them fill me with confidence hopefully it's just them getting used to scottish football

[B.H.F.C]

I agree with this post
Also I don't think we're a million miles away from having a decent team the performances have been reasonable
The only bad is the goalkeeper department
None of them fill me with confidence hopefully it's just them getting used to scottish football

I’d say we’re still want centre half and full back. Middle of the park whilst there were some promising signs have let us down 2 weeks on the trot. And in the final third were the lowest scorers in the league.

I think our issues extend slightly beyond the goalie.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

It’s a sad state of affairs that David Marshall and Malky Mackay are our best keeper and centre back respectively.

[HarpOnHibee]

I agree with this post
Also I don't think we're a million miles away from having a decent team the performances have been reasonable
The only bad is the goalkeeper department
None of them fill me with confidence hopefully it's just them getting used to scottish football

The other clubs in the league certainly think our performances are reasonable and think we should keep doing what we're doing. We wouldn't want to be unreasonable.

[InvertedFullBak]

I agree with this post
Also I don't think we're a million miles away from having a decent team the performances have been reasonable
The only bad is the goalkeeper department
None of them fill me with confidence hopefully it's just them getting used to scottish football


I agree with this also. The recruitment side of things is an absolute shambles and malky knows it but he’s tied to a timeframe when he can actually do anything about it in the instance of getting folk out the door.

There’s a reason we had 30 transfers in the summer window there and there would’ve been a few more if players had decided to move instead on hanging around. the same amount we’ll see next summer I feel with a good amount in the January window chucked in.

This season is all about steadying the ship and I’m afraid it’s written off from my point of view and basically just staying up , let alone be challenging for the top 6.

[matty_f]

I’ve no idea. It was a genuine question. Neither involved with the players day to day so what exactly are they doing?
Does a club our size really need this layer of management?

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I was being genuine with it as well, wasn’t meaning to come across arsey but I think it read that way.

In the structure we’re moving towards, we absolutely need a Sporting Director.

When you consider that we need someone that isn’t Ben Kensell or Ian Gordon making the football decisions, you can see why we need someone in that role.

We also need someone to make sure that the things we do at HTC are getting the most out of the relationship with the group, someone who can link what we do to the bigger picture and look after our interests in it.

In terms of routine, I would think Malky would be meeting with the respective heads of (head coach, academy head, recruitment head, etc) to make sure all their activities are aligned to whatever the strategy is, to understand what the challenges are and what they need to overcome them. He should be meeting with representatives from BKFC, to make sure Hibs are getting what they need from that.

I think he’ll also have to represent Hibs at official things like SPFL meetings etc , be visiting other clubs for best practice etc

It’s a huge job and if done properly, an absolutely crucial one for the club.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I agree with this also. The recruitment side of things is an absolute shambles and malky knows it but he’s tied to a timeframe when he can actually do anything about it in the instance of getting folk out the door.

There’s a reason we had 30 transfers in the summer window there and there would’ve been a few more if players had decided to move instead on hanging around. the same amount we’ll see next summer I feel with a good amount in the January window chucked in.

This season is all about steadying the ship and I’m afraid it’s written off from my point of view and basically just staying up , let alone be challenging for the top 6.

So how have Aberdeen managed it overnight? Why with Hibs is it always next manager, next round of fixtures, next window, next season?

[Since452]

So how have Aberdeen managed it overnight? Why with Hibs is it always next manager, next round of fixtures, next window, next season?

Exactly. All the bull**** excuses can stop. Aberdeen have blown that argument out the water. They haven't been trying to steady the ship. They're absolutely flying.

[green day]

I agree with this post
Also I don't think we're a million miles away from having a decent team the performances have been reasonable
The only bad is the goalkeeper department
None of them fill me with confidence hopefully it's just them getting used to scottish football

Had to check the date wasnt April 1st..............

Which performances have been reasonable?

Losing to Kelty Hearts?

Losing a last minute goal to Simon effing Murray v Dundee?

Missing a pen v Rangers?

Awful game mgt v Motherwell and losing?

Awful game mgt v Arabs and losing?

We are a ****ing million miles away from being in the middle of the bottom 6.

Keeper is honking, defence is porous, midfield are laughable and we are powderpuff up front.

Add into this the ludicrous number of godawful subs we have, and a rookie coaching team and that adds up to a club facing relegation, not anywhere near "decent performances".

[The Captain....]

I couldn't stand the **** before he was mystifyingly appointed to a role he had absolutely no track record of. Another appalling and tone deaf appointment from a boardroom full of absolute chancers.

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[HarpOnHibee]

So how have Aberdeen managed it overnight? Why with Hibs is it always next manager, next round of fixtures, next window, next season?

It's all in the club motto. "Persevere" - Continue in a course of action even in the face of difficulty or with little or no indication of success.

In other words, doing the same thing over and over again and getting exactly the same results.

[He's here!]

100%.

A failure at Ross County and in managerial terms very much yesterdays man. My fear is if / when SDG gets sacked the old-pals act kicks in and Mackay becomes our tomorrow man. I'm worried his DOF title will be another Hibs initiative that's promptly abandoned and Malky (McPherson) influences the ownership to give Malky Mackay the Head Coach job.

I imagine that will be the most likely scenario if Gray goes.

[InvertedFullBak]

So how have Aberdeen managed it overnight? Why with Hibs is it always next manager, next round of fixtures, next window, next season?

Not wasting millions on crap players.
Selling their biggest asset for a good few million quid.
A good set up on and off the park.
Employing an experienced manager after the failed experiments of Stephen glass and Barry robson.
Just a few examples of the top of my head.

Aberdeen had a good base to build from. We did have when Mathie was still here but Ian Gordon ripped it all up , done it his way and then realised he’d made a hoop of it and went back to type.

[B.H.F.C]

I agree with this also. The recruitment side of things is an absolute shambles and malky knows it but he’s tied to a timeframe when he can actually do anything about it in the instance of getting folk out the door.

There’s a reason we had 30 transfers in the summer window there and there would’ve been a few more if players had decided to move instead on hanging around. the same amount we’ll see next summer I feel with a good amount in the January window chucked in.

This season is all about steadying the ship and I’m afraid it’s written off from my point of view and basically just staying up , let alone be challenging for the top 6.

On the evidence so far I’ve not seen anything to suggest we’re going to break the cycle of dozens of transfers every window. We signed two goalies and it’s clear we already need to sign another. We’ve signed a couple of centre halves who haven’t done anything to help us defensively. We’ve signed a couple of midfielders who are only here for a year and will need replaced. In the final third we’ve signed a striker on loan and a 34 and 35 year old who will probably need replaced next year.

In short, we’ll be back at square one and no further forward next summer. Other teams don’t need all those widows to sort things out. Excuse after excuse for us.

[He's here!]

So how have Aberdeen managed it overnight? Why with Hibs is it always next manager, next round of fixtures, next window, next season?

They finally got lucky after the first four of McInnes's successors didn't work out.

[Chorley Hibee]

Had to check the date wasnt April 1st..............

Which performances have been reasonable?

Losing to Kelty Hearts?

Losing a last minute goal to Simon effing Murray v Dundee?

Missing a pen v Rangers?

Awful game mgt v Motherwell and losing?

Awful game mgt v Arabs and losing?

We are a ****ing million miles away from being in the middle of the bottom 6.

Keeper is honking, defence is porous, midfield are laughable and we are powderpuff up front.

Add into this the ludicrous number of godawful subs we have, and a rookie coaching team and that adds up to a club facing relegation, not anywhere near "decent performances".

Couldn't agree more.

I can't believe, after the latest capitulation, us now sat bottom of the league and having won only 6 of our last 29 league games, that people are still trying to convince themselves that we have a good squad, or that it was a good window.

Season upon season of failure and bull****, yet there's still many buying into this crap being served up.

It can only be Stockholm Syndrome.

[Joe6-2]

Had to check the date wasnt April 1st..............

Which performances have been reasonable?

Losing to Kelty Hearts?

Losing a last minute goal to Simon effing Murray v Dundee?

Missing a pen v Rangers?

Awful game mgt v Motherwell and losing?

Awful game mgt v Arabs and losing?

We are a ****ing million miles away from being in the middle of the bottom 6.

Keeper is honking, defence is porous, midfield are laughable and we are powderpuff up front.

Add into this the ludicrous number of godawful subs we have, and a rookie coaching team and that adds up to a club facing relegation, not anywhere near "decent performances".

Spot on

[Joe6-2]

I imagine that will be the most likely scenario if Gray goes.

He’s a shoe in, absolute joke

[InvertedFullBak]

On the evidence so far I’ve not seen anything to suggest we’re going to break the cycle of dozens of transfers every window. We signed two goalies and it’s clear we already need to sign another. We’ve signed a couple of centre halves who haven’t done anything to help us defensively. We’ve signed a couple of midfielders who are only here for a year and will need replaced. In the final third we’ve signed a striker on loan and a 34 and 35 year old who will probably need replaced next year.

In short, we’ll be back at square one and no further forward next summer. Other teams don’t need all those widows to sort things out. Excuse after excuse for us.

I said near of the end that I fully expect around another 30 or so transfers next summer with so many being away down to contract expiring or loans ending. We will be back to square one and the scenario Alan Stubbs found himself in when he took over back then.

This season for me is all about staying up. Going down would be catastrophic.

[Groathillgrump]

I agree with this post
Also I don't think we're a million miles away from having a decent team the performances have been reasonable
The only bad is the goalkeeper department
None of them fill me with confidence hopefully it's just them getting used to scottish football

Seriously? :confused:

I honestly can't comprehend how anybody can think we're close to having a decent team.

Not being funny mate but what are you seeing that most of us can't see? All I can see is that we're heading for a relegation battle because we're hopeless at doing the basics.

We don't score enough, our defence ships too many avoidable goals and we have no creativity in midfield. Our manager appears to be out of his depth too so add all this together and it's a recipe for disaster.

On top of all that I have no confidence that the jokers running our club have any idea of how to turn this around.

The future looks bleak at the moment.

[Mrimbetween]

Thing is no one seems to think that its possible to get out this mess and worryingly enough it could get way worse

Next week is massive if Hearts win then the fans will just go ape ship and start demanding things improve and heads roll, gonny be a long haul for sure

[MWHIBBIES]

They finally got lucky after the first four of McInnes's successors didn't work out.

Robson massively worked out, though. Getting 3rd and European group stage is a huge success. Brings in millions.

[B.H.F.C]

I said near of the end that I fully expect around another 30 or so transfers next summer with so many being away down to contract expiring or loans ending. We will be back to square one and the scenario Alan Stubbs found himself in when he took over back then.

This season for me is all about staying up. Going down would be catastrophic.

We’ll be nowhere near that scenario.

I might have missed some but off the top of my head we will still have Smith, Ekpiteta, O’Hora, Iredale, Nicky Cadden, Obita, Newell, Campbell, Moriah-Welsh Levitt, Molotnikov, Youan and Bowie contracted beyond the end of this season. Then there is the assumption that we’ll let every out of contract player go which we won’t, we’ll hand out some new contracts along the way. And you’ll still have players who are out on loan to come back and in to the mix in Vente, Delferierre, Megwa and Tavares.

The whole idea that we’ll have some kind of blank canvas next summer is flawed. McKay went public with it straight away because he was playing the game and trying to buy himself time. I don’t see us breaking the cycle because we have still been handing out long term contracts to poor players - the majority of our permanent signing from this summer.

We signed a lot of players and have a far bigger budget than the majority of the league. We should have improved this summer, we didn’t and nothing I’ve seen makes me think we’ll do much better in future windows.

[Bishop Hibee]

Reading about his sidekick Derek White. How the hell did this no mark get anywhere near ‘contract and transfer management’?!?! I reckon you could pick someone off this site and they’d do a better job. Another wage thief. Get him out! What a shambles.

[InvertedFullBak]

We’ll be nowhere near that scenario.

I might have missed some but off the top of my head we will still have Smith, Ekpiteta, O’Hora, Iredale, Nicky Cadden, Obita, Newell, Campbell, Moriah-Welsh Levitt, Molotnikov, Youan and Bowie contracted beyond the end of this season. Then there is the assumption that we’ll let every out of contract player go which we won’t, we’ll hand out some new contracts along the way. And you’ll still have players who are out on loan to come back and in to the mix in Vente, Delferierre, Megwa and Tavares.

The whole idea that we’ll have some kind of blank canvas next summer is flawed. McKay went public with it straight away because he was playing the game and trying to buy himself time. I don’t see us breaking the cycle because we have still been handing out long term contracts to poor players - the majority of our permanent signing from this summer.

We signed a lot of players and have a far bigger budget than the majority of the league. We should have improved this summer, we didn’t and nothing I’ve seen makes me think we’ll do much better in future windows.


I didn’t say we’d have a blank canvas to begin next season with. I said we’d have the same scenario Stubbs had which was a squad of around 10/15 players. A rough number.

[Ozyhibby]

I didn’t say we’d have a blank canvas to begin next season with. I said we’d have the same scenario Stubbs had which was a squad of around 10/15 players. A rough number.

And rookie player/manager Joe Newell at the helm.[emoji23][emoji6]


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[B.H.F.C]

I didn’t say we’d have a blank canvas to begin next season with. I said we’d have the same scenario Stubbs had which was a squad of around 10/15 players. A rough number.

If you are in the position Stubbs started from that is as blank a canvas as you’ll ever get. He inherited something like 7 senior players. It’ll be nowhere near that. By my count 17 will still be contracted as it stands. Plus we’ve still got January, contract extensions etc.

There were plenty out the door this summer but we handed out two year deals to Smith and Iredale who probably won’t play much. Three year deals to Ekpiteta and O’Hora who have made absolutely no difference. And then there is Nicky Cadden getting a three year deal. Even if we do end up at a point where we free up space for yet more players to come in, I’ve no faith we’ll do it well based on some of those gems.

[He's here!]

Robson massively worked out, though. Getting 3rd and European group stage is a huge success. Brings in millions.

Absolutely. That run they went on to get third (I forget, was that post-Goodwin and a 6-0 thrashing at ER?!) was remarkable and he deserved the job on the back of that. But, like Naismith, he crumpled as soon as things went awry.

[Scotty Leither]

If you are in the position Stubbs started from that is as blank a canvas as you’ll ever get. He inherited something like 7 senior players. It’ll be nowhere near that. By my count 17 will still be contracted as it stands. Plus we’ve still got January, contract extensions etc.

There were plenty out the door this summer but we handed out two year deals to Smith and Iredale who probably won’t play much. Three year deals to Ekpiteta and O’Hora who have made absolutely no difference. And then there is Nicky Cadden getting a three year deal. Even if we do end up at a point where we free up space for yet more players to come in, I’ve no faith we’ll do it well based on some of those gems.

For Cadden, see Amos, for Amos see Delfrerriere, (sp) for Delfrerriere see Kenneh, and so it goes on.
££££ of money wasted on utter dross on decent money, compounded by some of them getting extended contracts despite contributing NOTHING of any note.

At any functioning senior football club heads would roll for this level of incompetence, yet the Golden Quadrants’ big boys’ club of self protectionists will continue to plod on with zero accountability, headed up by Ian Gordon who is so woefully out his depth it’s laughable.

[Whelahan 1875]

Appointing Malky Mackay at Director level and bringing back Malcolm McPherson as Chairman are the worst appointments in the clubs history.

[Wilson]

Appointing Malky Mackay at Director level and bringing back Malcolm McPherson as Chairman are the worst appointments in the clubs history.

Not. Even. Close.

[Whelahan 1875]

Not. Even. Close.

Duff and Gray was a takeover, not appointed.

[matty_f]

So how have Aberdeen managed it overnight? Why with Hibs is it always next manager, next round of fixtures, next window, next season?

To be fair, Aberdeen are the anomaly. How many teams have that kind of impact on the back of one appointment?

[Pedantic_Hibee]

To be fair, Aberdeen are the anomaly. How many teams have that kind of impact on the back of one appointment?

I agree with you there, but is it asking too much to even see improvement on what’s went on before?

[Is It On....]

To be fair, Aberdeen are the anomaly. How many teams have that kind of impact on the back of one appointment?

Jock Stein - Hibernian [according to my dad], Unai Emery- Aston Villa

[Crab apple]

Jock Stein - Hibernian [according to my dad], Unai Emery- Aston Villa

I'd also say Mowbray and Stubbs both quickly transformed underperforming teams. Recruitment was good under both (aside from Mowbray's blindspot on keepers). Shows how important a good manager is.

[matty_f]

I agree with you there, but is it asking too much to even see improvement on what’s went on before?

It’s asking too much of Malky to see it improve that quickly. Of Gray, I think there’s more of a case to answer.

In Aberdeen‘s case, it’s also not true to suggest they’ve been an overnight success. They started the process by hiring Burrows a couple of years ago, and they got worse before they got better.

[matty_f]

Jock Stein - Hibernian [according to my dad], Unai Emery- Aston Villa

Good examples but probably makes my point rather than counters it.

[Bobby's Cinema]

I will keep going back to his interview when he joined. Said a big part of what he was bringing to us was meticulous work reducing the risk of new signings, increasing the likelihood of them working out. WTF is going on at our club.

[matty_f]

I will keep going back to his interview when he joined. Said a big part of what he was bringing to us was meticulous work reducing the risk of new signings, increasing the likelihood of them working out. WTF is going on at our club.

I think that he didn’t have the time to implement that set up on recruitment in time to handle the summer window that just passed. My take on that recruitment was that it was a mix of finishing deals that were already being worked on, taking advantage of some opportunistic signings, and getting a couple of players specifically requested by Gray at the same time as trying to ship out a load of players.

The January window, and more so the next summer window should be where we see a dfference or if it’s all spin.

[WellingtonHibby]

Reading about his sidekick Derek White. How the hell did this no mark get anywhere near ‘contract and transfer management’?!?! I reckon you could pick someone off this site and they’d do a better job. Another wage thief. Get him out! What a shambles.

He's away, I think.

[Iain G]

I’ve no idea. It was a genuine question. Neither involved with the players day to day so what exactly are they doing?
Does a club our size really need this layer of management?

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Start their day with smashed avo on toast, I hear Marsh prefers Rye bread while Malky loves a sourdough...Marsh has a cappuccino while Malky washes his down with a Camomile Tea to keep him calm.

They both do some emails and browse the internet a looking for suitable footballers they used to play with or with nice hair for a little while until the tea lady wheels her trolly around east mains...Marsh loves a dark chocolate kit kat, Malky only likes the white ones...

Lunch next with the team, still being one of the lads!

Afternoon of meetings with agents, Marsh attends meetings with his Goalie Gloves on...

Afternoon tea!

Then an early dash home to beat the traffic, though today Malky is off to meet his BFF Other Malky for a whisky and dinner at his club...

Evening in front of the telly for Marsh..

Night night Marsh and Malky! You did good today 😁

[Chorley Hibee]

Reading about his sidekick Derek White. How the hell did this no mark get anywhere near ‘contract and transfer management’?!?! I reckon you could pick someone off this site and they’d do a better job. Another wage thief. Get him out! What a shambles.

He was cheap, like most positions at Easter Road, and he's another gopher who will do everything they're told.

As an aside, it isn't lost on me the pathetic wages we offer for roles across the board at Easter Road, whilst Kensell etc are drawing 350k a year.

[GreenCastle]

I will keep going back to his interview when he joined. Said a big part of what he was bringing to us was meticulous work reducing the risk of new signings, increasing the likelihood of them working out. WTF is going on at our club.

Posted this on another thread but worrying for me is the same mistakes with recruitment.

Correct me if wrong…

Out of contract or loans leaving at end of season..

Bursik - loan - MM / Marshall signing
Boruc
Rocky
Cadden
Miller ?
Triantis - loan - ex Hibs player last season - probably shown most impact so far
Myko - loan - ex Hibs player / has potential but also not prolific
Kwon - loan - MM signing and probably had most impact with Triantis
Amos
Campbell
JDH
Kenneh
Boyle
Gayle - MM signing - took his goal well - too early to decide
Hoilett
Mckirdy
Youan

Leaves us with…

Smith GK - not good enough - MM signing
Iredale - not a starter - MM signing
Obita - need better
Newell till 2027 ! - need better
O’Hora - need better - MM signing
Rudi - not ready yet
N.Cadden till 2027 ! - need better - MM signing
Levitt - need better
MNW - need better
Bowie - potential but injury prone ??

That’s a worrying list on both sides..

Players leaving - plenty here who know time is up and won’t be staying around for possibly championship football - also the challenge of loan players actually “really” caring.

Our spine of the team..

Gk - loan
CBS - signed
CM - 2 out of 3 loans
CF - loan

Those staying - some awful deals and apart from Bowie not exactly inspiring.