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Unseen work
19-10-2024, 07:57 PM
Wonder what there thoughts are right now.

We assess the club as a whole at the start of the year and decide to go with Malky and Gray in really important positions, along with creating a job for Marshall.

Black Knights disagreed with the above moves but weren’t listened to. Did it ever come out who they wanted?

Meanwhile Bournemouth beat Arsenal 2-0 and are 10th in the premiership and Lorient are top in Ligue 2

JohnM1875
19-10-2024, 07:58 PM
Wonder what there thoughts are right now.

We assess the club as a whole at the start of the year and decide to go with Malky and Gray in really important positions, along with creating a job for Marshall.

Black Knights disagreed with the above moves but weren’t listened to. Did it ever come out who they wanted?

Meanwhile Bournemouth beat Arsenal 2-0 and are 10th in the premiership and Lorient are top in Ligue 2

Probably hoping we get relegated like minority owned Lorient did last season so we start listening to them more.

Lago
19-10-2024, 08:00 PM
Wonder what there thoughts are right now.

We assess the club as a whole at the start of the year and decide to go with Malky and Gray in really important positions, along with creating a job for Marshall.

Black Knights disagreed with the above moves but weren’t listened to. Did it ever come out who they wanted?

Meanwhile Bournemouth beat Arsenal 2-0 and are 10th in the premiership and Lorient are top in Ligue 2
How do we get our money back?

McD
19-10-2024, 08:01 PM
What was the situation with Brighton and the club Bloom bought in Europe? Isn’t the other club officially owned by his business partner or something?


Perhaps a similar arrangement could be organised with the black knights to buy out the gordons

IberianHibernian
19-10-2024, 08:15 PM
Wonder what there thoughts are right now.

We assess the club as a whole at the start of the year and decide to go with Malky and Gray in really important positions, along with creating a job for Marshall.

Black Knights disagreed with the above moves but weren’t listened to. Did it ever come out who they wanted?

Meanwhile Bournemouth beat Arsenal 2-0 and are 10th in the premiership and Lorient are top in Ligue 2So Black Knights get praise if Lorient are top of second division but not flak for being relegated ? Not sure Lorient fans were so understanding at time of relegation . Was it confirmed BK were unhappy about 3 appointments you mention and had definite alternatives lined up ? Not happy with our present position obviously but still hoping solution can be found in next few years to improve club without BK or any other group involved with other clubs .

chrisski33
19-10-2024, 08:18 PM
Tbh id have expected to hear something from them more by now or maybe just silent partners now.

B.H.F.C
19-10-2024, 08:20 PM
I think the BK will have little interest at the moment. Those in charge have decided to go their own way with things, until such time as that changes, there isn’t much they can do. Under the current regime, it won’t change IMO. Bigger picture is that we potentially piss them off to the point that they have little interest going forward. £6m may be a lot of money for us but it’s spare change to Foley.

IMO we should be getting a proper explanation on what has went on with them and what we intend to do with them going forward. Won’t happen though.

Unseen work
19-10-2024, 08:20 PM
So Black Knights get praise if Lorient are top of second division but not flak for being relegated ? Not sure Lorient fans were so understanding at time of relegation . Was it confirmed BK were unhappy about 3 appointments you mention and had definite alternatives lined up ? Not happy with our present position obviously but still hoping solution can be found in next few years to improve club without BK or any other group involved with other clubs .

Was there not a bit of similarity with lorient and not listening to them properly which resulted in them being relegated?

But yeah it’s been confirmed about them not approving Mackay and Grah

greenpaper55
19-10-2024, 08:32 PM
Think the BK will be having a wee chuckle at the way things have worked out, I wonder who they had in mind for manager and maybe it will come to pass?

Lancs Harp
19-10-2024, 09:04 PM
Pretty sure no one on here knows anything about what the BKs thoughts or plans are. Pure conjecture.

JohnM1875
19-10-2024, 09:05 PM
Pretty sure no one on here knows anything about what the BKs thoughts or plans are. Pure conjecture.

To be fair, it's a football forum. Of course it's conjecture.

gbhibby
19-10-2024, 09:15 PM
Should have listened to them.

ancient hibee
19-10-2024, 09:17 PM
There’s two of them on the board.

Fergos
19-10-2024, 09:18 PM
What was the situation with Brighton and the club Bloom bought in Europe? Isn’t the other club officially owned by his business partner or something?


Perhaps a similar arrangement could be organised with the black knights to buy out the gordons

Whatever happens the Gordons need to go.

matty_f
19-10-2024, 09:33 PM
I hope they see the risk in where the club is heading at the moment and make moves to support the Gordons to sort it out. They’re on the board so they have a responsibility to do something.

It’s not good enough that they wash their hands of it. The Gordons have to step it up, they need to let BKFC in and accelerate whatever plans are there at the moment to work with them.

We can’t allow this decline to go any longer.

Trinity Hibee
19-10-2024, 09:37 PM
I hope they see the risk in where the club is heading at the moment and make moves to support the Gordons to sort it out. They’re on the board so they have a responsibility to do something.

It’s not good enough that they wash their hands of it. The Gordons have to step it up, they need to let BKFC in and accelerate whatever plans are there at the moment to work with them.

We can’t allow this decline to go any longer.

6m might not be a lot to them but these guys don’t become rich by chucking away money. They’ll want to see success/a return of some kind. I don’t imagine they’ll walk away any time soon.

K-Zazu
19-10-2024, 09:38 PM
Think the BK will be having a wee chuckle at the way things have worked out, I wonder who they had in mind for manager and maybe it will come to pass?

I heard they wanted to keep Montgomery.

Ozyhibby
19-10-2024, 09:40 PM
I heard they wanted to keep Montgomery.

He was doing better than where we are now.


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TimeForHeroes32
19-10-2024, 09:50 PM
First of all get rid of Kensell and let BK hire whoever they want for that role

Second if Gray doesn’t turn it around by start of December at the latest get rid and let BK bring in whoever they want and give him January bring his own players in try and save our season a little bit.

Gordon’s and Kensell has got this club in a big mess and even if it’s early in season right now only looks one way and that’s spending our 150th year as a club in the championship. We lose next week and it’s serious questions need to be asked at the club and this season it’s all for experimenting with ANOTHER untried manager they couldn’t afford to fail which right now unfortunately is going that way. There’s not one person I want succeed more at this club but how long do you give this experiment to realise it hasn’t worked out the way we would all had wanted him to do when he got the job

CapitalGreen
19-10-2024, 09:50 PM
I heard they wanted to keep Montgomery.

Based on where we are now they were right.

The Spaceman
19-10-2024, 09:50 PM
Hopefully can sell the Gordon’s remaining share to them. We need ambition and from people who know what they are doing.

Nicho87
19-10-2024, 09:51 PM
They’d prob be fifth if they had a board like ours

Twats

JohnM1875
19-10-2024, 09:54 PM
Hopefully can sell the Gordon’s remaining share to them. We need ambition and from people who know what they are doing.

Agreed.

Totally understand folk aren't keen on being part of a multi-club model. But realistically it's the way smaller European leagues are going, even ones with better TV deals and finances than ours.

Difference between Gordons and BK group is the latter actually have a fantastic record of running a successful business and more importantly sporting success to draw on. Oh and the financial clout to make being best of the rest an actual possibility.

IberianHibernian
19-10-2024, 10:43 PM
Agreed.

Totally understand folk aren't keen on being part of a multi-club model. But realistically it's the way smaller European leagues are going, even ones with better TV deals and finances than ours.

Difference between Gordons and BK group is the latter actually have a fantastic record of running a successful business and more importantly sporting success to draw on. Oh and the financial clout to make being best of the rest an actual possibility.What sporting success ? Were Lorient not relegated ?

JohnM1875
19-10-2024, 10:44 PM
What sporting success ? Were Lorient not relegated ?

They don't own Lorient. Foleys ice hockey team won the Stanley Cup and Bournemouth are doing really well.

pacorosssco
19-10-2024, 10:51 PM
They have a 25% stake in club. They may just sit do nought and then cash in later. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up owning us in next couple of years.

snedzuk
19-10-2024, 10:57 PM
They have a 25% stake in club. They may just sit do nought and then cash in later. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up owning us in next couple of years.

This - the Gordon's are doing a fine job of devaluing Hibs. BK can wait that out.

IberianHibernian
19-10-2024, 11:22 PM
They don't own Lorient. Foleys ice hockey team won the Stanley Cup and Bournemouth are doing really well.So Lorient fans had no reason to question BK`s part in relegation ? Did Bournemouth`s success start when BK became involved ? Wonder if their fans are happy about BK involvement even if results are good ?

JohnM1875
19-10-2024, 11:27 PM
So Lorient fans had no reason to question BK`s part in relegation ? Did Bournemouth`s success start when BK became involved ? Wonder if their fans are happy about BK involvement even if results are good ?

Blame BKs part in the relegation all they want, they wouldn't be the main reason for relegation though. Just like they wouldn't be the main reason if we're relegated this season.

Since Foley bought Bournemouth they've been promoted, finished 12th last season and beat Arsenal today.

matty_f
19-10-2024, 11:49 PM
Blame BKs part in the relegation all they want, they wouldn't be the main reason for relegation though. Just like they wouldn't be the main reason if we're relegated this season.

Since Foley bought Bournemouth they've been promoted, finished 12th last season and beat Arsenal today.

:agree:

Donegal Hibby
20-10-2024, 12:38 AM
Blame BKs part in the relegation all they want, they wouldn't be the main reason for relegation though. Just like they wouldn't be the main reason if we're relegated this season.

Since Foley bought Bournemouth they've been promoted, finished 12th last season and beat Arsenal today.

Bournemouth are Foleys number one priority we aren’t .. he is still trying to buy clubs and where we end up in the food chain nobody knows .. glad they only have 25% of the club even with things as bad as they are !

neil7908
20-10-2024, 12:46 AM
Bournemouth are Foleys number one priority we aren’t .. he is still trying to buy clubs and where we end up in the food chain nobody knows .. glad they only have 25% of the club even with things as bad as they are !

Yup. Everyone focuses on Bournemouth when Lorient are a much better comparison to Hibs. And they went down last year.

JohnM1875
20-10-2024, 01:01 AM
Bournemouth are Foleys number one priority we aren’t .. he is still trying to buy clubs and where we end up in the food chain nobody knows .. glad they only have 25% of the club even with things as bad as they are !

Of course they are. He owns Bournemouth and has full say on how they operate.

If we start signing players that are good enough to make the step up to the English Premier League how would that be a bad thing? When is the last time we sold a player to an EPL team?

JohnM1875
20-10-2024, 01:03 AM
Yup. Everyone focuses on Bournemouth when Lorient are a much better comparison to Hibs. And they went down last year.

They don't own Lorient so I suppose you’re right.

So I guess you could say the teams they do own are doing really well and the teams they only have a minority share in are struggling.

Donegal Hibby
20-10-2024, 01:48 AM
Of course they are. He owns Bournemouth and has full say on how they operate.

If we start signing players that are good enough to make the step up to the English Premier League how would that be a bad thing? When is the last time we sold a player to an EPL team?

If we start signing players that are good enough to make the step up to the English Premier League it wouldn’t be a bad thing , It would be amazing ! ..

which is what fans are probably thinking at other clubs in the group though again where is the club we love so much in this on a scale of one of five , eight .. ten … twelve clubs ? .. genuine question mate .

I’ve not been on board with this from day one as I see it as other bigger , wealthier clubs getting their grubby hands on clubs like ours for their own selfish reasons….

Bournemouth aren’t bigger than us but more wealthier due to English football .. hertz are probably soon to have Brighton and 10 mill reportedly … Aberdeen next for this sort of arrangement with a club better again possibly ? .. personably if I had the choice between Bournemouth or Brighton or even a better deal which Aberdeen could get In the future I’d rather tell them all to get stuffed …

SickBoy32
20-10-2024, 06:51 AM
Anyone who thinks these Kensell approved corporates will be beneficial to Hibernian needs to wake up, and quickly.

The club is in a real mess. These guys are not the answer though.

The club is soulless already, the heart ripped out of the place in a desperate quest for revenue.

A full takeover by these foreign financial speculators would make this lack of soul permanent.

Unseen work
20-10-2024, 10:29 AM
Got to wonder if they’re on the phone to the board etc saying to change it now before it’s to late and giving some potential replacements

DH1875
20-10-2024, 10:36 AM
Don't know or see what they bring to the table. That tie in with Bournemouth has really helped 🙄

Since452
20-10-2024, 10:42 AM
Don't know or see what they bring to the table. That tie in with Bournemouth has really helped 🙄

When we're ignoring them because we think we know better then nothing much will happen.

Pedantic_Hibee
20-10-2024, 10:43 AM
Let’s not forget, following a catalogue of expensive mistakes, Ian Gordon was offered a helping hand by minority investors who have a track record of success.

He turned down their advice because he and Ben Kensell know best and they are learning from their mistakes.

Arrogance, naivety and incompetence in spades.

blackpoolhibs
20-10-2024, 12:17 PM
Let’s not forget, following a catalogue of expensive mistakes, Ian Gordon was offered a helping hand by minority investors who have a track record of success.

He turned down their advice because he and Ben Kensell know best and they are learning from their mistakes.

Arrogance, naivety and incompetence in spades.


:agree:

Only we could recieve £6m investment, plus help from a successful club and piss it up the wall.

JimBHibees
20-10-2024, 12:23 PM
Let’s not forget, following a catalogue of expensive mistakes, Ian Gordon was offered a helping hand by minority investors who have a track record of success.

He turned down their advice because he and Ben Kensell know best and they are learning from their mistakes.

Arrogance, naivety and incompetence in spades.

Fair point

Pedantic_Hibee
20-10-2024, 12:23 PM
Can that snake oil salesman Ben Kensell come out and actually tell us what process it is that we’ve to trust? ****ing charlatan.

Ozyhibby
20-10-2024, 12:45 PM
:agree:

Only we could recieve £6m investment, plus help from a successful club and piss it up the wall.

It’s not just the £6m. The taps were turned off on future investment and or any inter club loans or transfers the minute we appointed Mackay and Gray. We were promised game changing investment in the summer and that disappeared the minute we ignored the BK’s.
Gordon and Kensall are pound shop businessmen compared to Foley and his guys. The fact they thought they knew better shows a remarkable level idiocy.


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ancient hibee
20-10-2024, 01:03 PM
Got to wonder if they’re on the phone to the board etc saying to change it now before it’s to late and giving some potential replacements

They're on the board.

blackpoolhibs
20-10-2024, 01:06 PM
It’s not just the £6m. The taps were turned off on future investment and or any inter club loans or transfers the minute we appointed Mackay and Gray. We were promised game changing investment in the summer and that disappeared the minute we ignored the BK’s.
Gordon and Kensall are pound shop businessmen compared to Foley and his guys. The fact they thought they knew better shows a remarkable level idiocy.


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:agree:

****in clueless leadership from them.

Docker
20-10-2024, 01:10 PM
Change of ownership will take time and won’t happen this season. Best we can hope is that the BK’s parachute in a few quality reinforcements in January.

Unseen work
20-10-2024, 01:11 PM
They're on the board.

You know what I mean, contacting the rest of them and saying this needs sorted now

blackpoolhibs
20-10-2024, 01:12 PM
Change of ownership will take time and won’t happen this season. Best we can hope is that the BK’s parachute in a few quality reinforcements in January.

Bevan might be fit by then, but probably injured by the 31st.

Ozyhibby
20-10-2024, 01:13 PM
Change of ownership will take time and won’t happen this season. Best we can hope is that the BK’s parachute in a few quality reinforcements in January.

Mackay and Gray will need to be gone for that to happen. And Gordon and Kensall will need to eat a fair bit of humble pie.


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Lago
20-10-2024, 01:14 PM
:top marks
It’s not just the £6m. The taps were turned off on future investment and or any inter club loans or transfers the minute we appointed Mackay and Gray. We were promised game changing investment in the summer and that disappeared the minute we ignored the BK’s.
Gordon and Kensall are pound shop businessmen compared to Foley and his guys. The fact they thought they knew better shows a remarkable level idiocy.


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AgentDaleCooper
20-10-2024, 01:17 PM
Wonder what there thoughts are right now.

We assess the club as a whole at the start of the year and decide to go with Malky and Gray in really important positions, along with creating a job for Marshall.

Black Knights disagreed with the above moves but weren’t listened to. Did it ever come out who they wanted?

Meanwhile Bournemouth beat Arsenal 2-0 and are 10th in the premiership and Lorient are top in Ligue 2

I seem to recall hearing that they wanted to keep Monty...going on the basis that it's the board that's been the problem rather than the managers, they might have been right, even if there wasn't much on the face of things to suggest so... :dunno:

the one thing that seems clear is that there's too much inexperience at management and board level, and the only immediate change that could be made in terms of bringing in experience would be, sadly, a new manager, if we want an immediate effect - otherwise we could end up relegated. The only manager I think we could be sure of stopping that happening would be McInnes - the problem there is that his style of football is not what the Black Knights favour...I think it might end up being the case that SDG will get punted half way through the season, and someone else will come in a la McLeish, who won't save us, but some restructuring in the championship might see us come up again all guns blazing...i just hope that it doesn't come to that.

ekhibee
20-10-2024, 01:27 PM
If we start signing players that are good enough to make the step up to the English Premier League it wouldn’t be a bad thing , It would be amazing ! ..

which is what fans are probably thinking at other clubs in the group though again where is the club we love so much in this on a scale of one of five , eight .. ten … twelve clubs ? .. genuine question mate .

I’ve not been on board with this from day one as I see it as other bigger , wealthier clubs getting their grubby hands on clubs like ours for their own selfish reasons….

Bournemouth aren’t bigger than us but more wealthier due to English football .. hertz are probably soon to have Brighton and 10 mill reportedly … Aberdeen next for this sort of arrangement with a club better again possibly ? .. personably if I had the choice between Bournemouth or Brighton or even a better deal which Aberdeen could get In the future I’d rather tell them all to get stuffed …

So what, in your opinion, would be a better alternative?

B.H.F.C
20-10-2024, 01:42 PM
It’s not just the £6m. The taps were turned off on future investment and or any inter club loans or transfers the minute we appointed Mackay and Gray. We were promised game changing investment in the summer and that disappeared the minute we ignored the BK’s.
Gordon and Kensall are pound shop businessmen compared to Foley and his guys. The fact they thought they knew better shows a remarkable level idiocy.


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There are plenty questions to be asked of the BK involvement (or lack of). But if they decided to shut absolutely everything down because they didn’t get what they wanted initially then that reflects poorly on them. I don’t believe that will have been the case either. They never had a controlling vote so they’re never going to get what they want all the time. It’s clear we need to actually start making this work for us though and be more open to their suggestions.

NC1875
20-10-2024, 02:00 PM
Even if they did want to keep Montgomery. I’d argue we’d be in a better place now than with Gray.

All the succession planning went out the window when we waited so long to get rid of Montgomery in the first place. The Bk’s probably looked and thought it made sense to keep him for this season.

Instead we waited too long to sack him then brought in the most inexperienced candidate possible.

And here we are.

Another Ian Gordon and Ben Kensell masterclass.

Pair of clowns 🤡

Donegal Hibby
20-10-2024, 02:12 PM
So what, in your opinion, would be a better alternative?

We aren’t in a position now to look at alternatives because we have struck a deal which appears to be the first one that came along.

JohnM1875
20-10-2024, 02:13 PM
We aren’t in a position now to look at alternatives because we have struck a deal which appears to be the first one that came along.

IF the chat is to be believed it wasn't the first one, we turned down an offer from Bloom.

Donegal Hibby
20-10-2024, 02:32 PM
IF the chat is to be believed it wasn't the first one, we turned down an offer from Bloom.

I wonder why ?

matty_f
20-10-2024, 02:37 PM
It’s not just the £6m. The taps were turned off on future investment and or any inter club loans or transfers the minute we appointed Mackay and Gray. We were promised game changing investment in the summer and that disappeared the minute we ignored the BK’s.
Gordon and Kensall are pound shop businessmen compared to Foley and his guys. The fact they thought they knew better shows a remarkable level idiocy.


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It’s not true that it turned off the tap. We were offered two group players in the summer, Bevan who would have signed but for injury, and Bonke Innocent from Lorient, who we turned down in favour of Triantis.

It’s also the case that Malky Mackay has been working with BKFC president Tim Bezeichenko (sp) and Bournemouth’s Sporting Director, Simon Francis, since Malky and SDG were appointed.

matty_f
20-10-2024, 02:39 PM
I wonder why ?

Foley deal was a better fit for the Gordon’s plans. They didn’t want to sell up and wanted a partner, from what I gather Bloom wanted more than the Gordons were willing to give.

Donegal Hibby
20-10-2024, 02:50 PM
Foley deal was a better fit for the Gordon’s plans. They didn’t want to sell up and wanted a partner, from what I gather Bloom wanted more than the Gordons were willing to give.

That’s fair enough. Thanks 👍

AgentDaleCooper
22-10-2024, 01:55 PM
not sure if it's been said before, but it occurs to me that the one thing we're in need of is a comprehensive rebuild, and that's actually something that is built into the fabric of NHL hockey, where the Black Knights own a Stanley Cup winning team, that they had to build from scratch.

my main worry is what they'll do to our club's identity, but if one wants success at pretty much any cost, then on that basis there's perhaps a lot to be said for just passing over the reigns to them. I'd much prefer fan ownership, but that ship looks like it might have sailed, sadly.

Hibs Go Bragh
22-10-2024, 02:02 PM
Change of ownership will take time and won’t happen this season. Best we can hope is that the BK’s parachute in a few quality reinforcements in January.

Anyone know how Myziane is getting on and if he would fancy another 6 months in Scotland?

Scotty Leither
22-10-2024, 02:07 PM
Let’s not forget, following a catalogue of expensive mistakes, Ian Gordon was offered a helping hand by minority investors who have a track record of success.

He turned down their advice because he and Ben Kensell know best and they are learning from their mistakes.

Arrogance, naivety and incompetence in spades.

Sad to think Gordon and Kensell’s hubris may well see us relegated. Especially when Kensell would walk into another job with barely a backwards glance at us.

HendoDelivered
22-10-2024, 02:09 PM
Foley deal was a better fit for the Gordon’s plans. They didn’t want to sell up and wanted a partner, from what I gather Bloom wanted more than the Gordons were willing to give.

He also wanted to bomb Kensell as CEO from what I’m told.

ancient hibee
22-10-2024, 02:30 PM
He also wanted to bomb Kensell as CEO from what I’m told.

Made up story I suspect -did Foley tell your source:greengrin.

Kensall and Gordon are just back from a meeting with Foley in Las Vegas.

Just Alf
22-10-2024, 04:18 PM
Made up story I suspect -did Foley tell your source:greengrin.

Kensall and Gordon are just back from a meeting with Foley in Las Vegas.Your post is the only glimmer of hope I have in this sorry saga at the moment :-(

Slim Shady
22-10-2024, 04:33 PM
Made up story I suspect -did Foley tell your source:greengrin.

Kensall and Gordon are just back from a meeting with Foley in Las Vegas.

No they’re are not.

It didn’t happen.

eastmainsmsh
22-10-2024, 04:39 PM
The way things have been and are going I wouldn't be surprised if Black knights pull out of Hibs

hibeerealist
22-10-2024, 04:49 PM
No they’re are not.

It didn’t happen.


Slim, do you know for sure that this meeting did not take place, I was encouraged when I read on here there was a meeting?

Winston Ingram
22-10-2024, 05:23 PM
He was doing better than where we are now.


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Is he. He’s effectively Spurs set piece coach and they’re still utterly ***** at set pieces.

Hibiza
22-10-2024, 05:29 PM
First of all get rid of Kensell and let BK hire whoever they want for that role

Second if Gray doesn’t turn it around by start of December at the latest get rid and let BK bring in whoever they want and give him January bring his own players in try and save our season a little bit.

Gordon’s and Kensell has got this club in a big mess and even if it’s early in season right now only looks one way and that’s spending our 150th year as a club in the championship. We lose next week and it’s serious questions need to be asked at the club and this season it’s all for experimenting with ANOTHER untried manager they couldn’t afford to fail which right now unfortunately is going that way. There’s not one person I want succeed more at this club but how long do you give this experiment to realise it hasn’t worked out the way we would all had wanted him to do when he got the job

Spot on

Hibiza
22-10-2024, 05:31 PM
At least Kensell got a trip to Vegas. Top the tan up , wee saving on the sunbeds.

Chuck Rhoades
22-10-2024, 05:57 PM
At least Kensell got a trip to Vegas. Top the tan up , wee saving on the sunbeds.

Sure the expenses on his Hibs corporate will take a fair blasting whilst he’s over there.

Lago
22-10-2024, 06:04 PM
Slim, do you know for sure that this meeting did not take place, I was encouraged when I read on here there was a meeting?
Slims gone quiet:greengrin

K-Zazu
22-10-2024, 06:15 PM
The way things have been and are going I wouldn't be surprised if Black knights pull out of Hibs

This is my feeling about it all too.

green day
22-10-2024, 06:20 PM
The way things have been and are going I wouldn't be surprised if Black knights pull out of Hibs

That's not happening unless someone buys their shares.

Paulie Walnuts
22-10-2024, 06:28 PM
That's not happening unless someone buys their shares.

I’d be surprised if there’s not a significant change in ownership at Hibs over the next couple of years. Whether that takes the form of BKFC buying out the Gordon’s or BKFC bailing out, who knows.

green day
22-10-2024, 06:31 PM
I’d be surprised if there’s not a significant change in ownership at Hibs over the next couple of years. Whether that takes the form of BKFC buying out the Gordon’s or BKFC bailing out, who knows.

I don't see anything other than the BKs buying out the Gordon's.

Maybe that's wishful thinking......

cabbageandribs1875
22-10-2024, 06:33 PM
how can the BK's buy out the Gordons :confused: i thought the maximum the BK's could own was 29.9% or sommit like that, and we can't have owners that are owners/part-owners in a Group of clubs :dunno:


or have i missed something :hmmm:

JohnM1875
22-10-2024, 06:37 PM
how can the BK's buy out the Gordons :confused: i thought the maximum the BK's could own was 29.9% or sommit like that, and we can't have owners that are owners/part-owners in a Group of clubs :dunno:


or have i missed something :hmmm:

From the Evening News today, fair enough it's just him floating his opinion, but the SFA have said they'll review on a case by case basis after approving the initial (current) Foley deal;

"Foley acquiring a 25 per cent stake in Hibs required the SFA to change their own rules – Article 13 – on individuals holding a “dual interest” in clubs, with his overall control of Bournemouth considered a barrier under the old regulations. Aware that clubs are crying out for investment, and hardly blind to the success of multi-team empires all over global football, could the Hampden authorities be willing to further relax their stance on this?"

Paulie Walnuts
22-10-2024, 06:40 PM
how can the BK's buy out the Gordons :confused: i thought the maximum the BK's could own was 29.9% or sommit like that, and we can't have owners that are owners/part-owners in a Group of clubs :dunno:


or have i missed something :hmmm:

At this point in time that’s correct. I’d be very surprised if that stayed in place if somebody had reason to challenge it.

cabbageandribs1875
22-10-2024, 06:41 PM
From the Evening News today, fair enough it's just him floating his opinion, but the SFA have said they'll review on a case by case basis after approving the initial (current) Foley deal;

"Foley acquiring a 25 per cent stake in Hibs required the SFA to change their own rules – Article 13 – on individuals holding a “dual interest” in clubs, with his overall control of Bournemouth considered a barrier under the old regulations. Aware that clubs are crying out for investment, and hardly blind to the success of multi-team empires all over global football, could the Hampden authorities be willing to further relax their stance on this?"


ta clears it up a bit, as for the bit in bold i would be very(pleasantly) surprised if they changed the rules without the go ahead from the two Glasgow "giants" approval

cabbageandribs1875
22-10-2024, 06:42 PM
At this point in time that’s correct. I’d be very surprised if that stayed in place if somebody had reason to challenge it.


one of the gruesome twosome

Ozyhibby
22-10-2024, 06:43 PM
Is he. He’s effectively Spurs set piece coach and they’re still utterly ***** at set pieces.

He was doing better at Hibs than Gray is.


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ancient hibee
22-10-2024, 06:48 PM
Slim, do you know for sure that this meeting did not take place, I was encouraged when I read on here there was a meeting?

Slim likes a wee joke.

Stuart93
22-10-2024, 08:13 PM
Derek White supposedly already been replaced

Gmack7
22-10-2024, 08:17 PM
Derek White supposedly already been replaced

Who's he, never heard of him

Stuart93
22-10-2024, 08:21 PM
Who's he, never heard of him

He was “head of football operations”

HUTCHYHIBBY
22-10-2024, 08:25 PM
I don't see anything other than the BKs buying out the Gordon's.

Maybe that's wishful thinking......

That was my thinking from the moment they put their money in, seems a bit pointless otherwise.

bingo70
22-10-2024, 08:35 PM
Derek White supposedly already been replaced

He’s basically just an administrator with a ridiculously lofty title is he not?

Replacement maybe just a temp from office angels?

B.H.F.C
22-10-2024, 08:37 PM
He’s basically just an administrator with a ridiculously lofty title is he not?

Replacement maybe just a temp from office angels?

Aye he was. Need to get back to the days of knowing nothing about these folk.

04Sauzee
22-10-2024, 08:44 PM
Danish billionaire and FC Midtjylland owner Anders Holch Povlsen is interested in buying Dundee United. Povlsen's fortune is said to be worth £10bn.
#DUFC #Football #Scotland #Denmark

Not sure how the above works, can he have full control of 2 teams ?

green day
22-10-2024, 08:53 PM
Danish billionaire and FC Midtjylland owner Anders Holch Povlsen is interested in buying Dundee United. Povlsen's fortune is said to be worth £10bn.
#DUFC #Football #Scotland #Denmark

Not sure how the above works, can he have full control of 2 teams ?

Guy owns half the highlands

Paulie Walnuts
22-10-2024, 08:54 PM
Guy owns half the highlands

:agree:

Scotlands largest landowner. Think he made his money from ASOS if my memory serves me correct? Also owns the Jenners building.

Jock O
22-10-2024, 08:55 PM
Guy owns half the highlands

I think he is the biggest Scottish landowner now, which really surprised me and richest man in Denmark. That would be a seriously interesting proposition for Dundee United, depending as always on his intentions.

Hibees1973
22-10-2024, 08:58 PM
Black Knights not the answer.

Didn't trust Ian Gordons or Kensell's decision to bring them on board and I maintain that.

may 21/05/2016
22-10-2024, 09:15 PM
Black Knights chief in Hibs visit as Bill Foley influence escalates

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/black-knights-chief-makes-hibs-33948459#ICID=Android_DailyRecordNewsApp_AppShare

Stuart93
22-10-2024, 09:16 PM
Danish billionaire and FC Midtjylland owner Anders Holch Povlsen is interested in buying Dundee United. Povlsen's fortune is said to be worth £10bn.
#DUFC #Football #Scotland #Denmark

Not sure how the above works, can he have full control of 2 teams ?

Would have to be the same set up as us

Coco Bryce
22-10-2024, 09:18 PM
Povlsen was nearly buying ICT last week.

Lago
22-10-2024, 09:32 PM
Black Knights chief in Hibs visit as Bill Foley influence escalates

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/black-knights-chief-makes-hibs-33948459#ICID=Android_DailyRecordNewsApp_AppShare
So the meeting did take place, good.

Slim Shady
22-10-2024, 09:53 PM
He was “head of football operations”

Was recently promoted to Director of Football Operations….. strange to think why anyone with a new promotion would “resign” so quickly.

Slim Shady
22-10-2024, 09:57 PM
Slim, do you know for sure that this meeting did not take place, I was encouraged when I read on here there was a meeting?

Meeting and dialogue took place after Black Knights rep spent a week checking out what was going on. Where it happened and who attended…. Well it’s the Daily Mail!

What is encouraging is the current board are no longer resisting and pushing back to the help Black Knights are offering.

Ronniekirk
22-10-2024, 11:26 PM
Meeting and dialogue took place after Black Knights rep spent a week checking out what was going on. Where it happened and who attended…. Well it’s the Daily Mail!

What is encouraging is the current board are no longer resisting and pushing back to the help Black Knights are offering.
The problem is the damage has been done ,and we are bottom of the league A meeting in Vegas ain’t going to suddenly change things on the park, and we can’t bring in new players till January

Moulin Yarns
23-10-2024, 07:52 AM
Povlsen was nearly buying ICT last week.

It was a guy by the name of Anderson.

Steve20
23-10-2024, 08:02 AM
Black Knights not the answer.

Didn't trust Ian Gordons or Kensell's decision to bring them on board and I maintain that.

I'd trust them running things much more than the incompetence of Ian Gordon and Ben Kensell. Those two have no idea how to put a successful team on the pitch. None whatsoever.

MikeyS
23-10-2024, 08:20 AM
Aye he was. Need to get back to the days of knowing nothing about these folk.

Agreed. I also think the club haven't helped matters here by giving these posts the ridiculous titles they have done. Possibly that's something that the Americans brought in?

Head of Football Operations gives the idea that the post holder has some serious power within a club when in fact they are tasked with accommodation bookings, travel arrangements, SFA dealings on registration and cautions. All worthwhile tasks of course but to the average fan that title is what we read about Klopp taking on at Red Bull, Begiristain at Man City and other ex players.

No some daft laddie on 30k a year that Livi were glad to see the back off!

Sioux
23-10-2024, 08:31 AM
I'd trust them running things much more than the incompetence of Ian Gordon and Ben Kensell. Those two have no idea how to put a successful team on the pitch. None whatsoever.

Neither does any other owner/CEO.

Onceinawhile
23-10-2024, 09:21 AM
If they are going to pull out, and no longer care, why was their president over at east mains for a week?

Ianis Hagi & Danilo on Rangers comeback trail & David Gray defiant - Scottish gossip - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cp3w38ld4gdo)

The president of stakeholder Black Knight FC, Tim Bezbatchenko, has spent a week reviewing Hibernian's operations at their training ground. (Record) (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/black-knights-chief-makes-hibs-33948459)

Slim Shady
23-10-2024, 09:25 AM
Agreed. I also think the club haven't helped matters here by giving these posts the ridiculous titles they have done. Possibly that's something that the Americans brought in?

Head of Football Operations gives the idea that the post holder has some serious power within a club when in fact they are tasked with accommodation bookings, travel arrangements, SFA dealings on registration and cautions. All worthwhile tasks of course but to the average fan that title is what we read about Klopp taking on at Red Bull, Begiristain at Man City and other ex players.

No some daft laddie on 30k a year that Livi were glad to see the back off!

£30K?

He was promoted to Director of Football Operations and be on £60-£70k

Trinity Hibee
23-10-2024, 09:34 AM
Was recently promoted to Director of Football Operations….. strange to think why anyone with a new promotion would “resign” so quickly.

Might have just been a title change rather than a promotion. Can’t see why you’d need a director and head of in this kind of role

Brightside
23-10-2024, 09:39 AM
Danish billionaire and FC Midtjylland owner Anders Holch Povlsen is interested in buying Dundee United. Povlsen's fortune is said to be worth £10bn.
#DUFC #Football #Scotland #Denmark

Not sure how the above works, can he have full control of 2 teams ?

He can when the SFA change the rules.....

Callum_62
23-10-2024, 10:35 AM
£30K?

He was promoted to Director of Football Operations and be on £60-£70kWhere do you pull they numbers from?

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Callum_62
23-10-2024, 10:36 AM
If they are going to pull out, and no longer care, why was their president over at east mains for a week?

Ianis Hagi & Danilo on Rangers comeback trail & David Gray defiant - Scottish gossip - BBC Sport (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cp3w38ld4gdo)

The president of stakeholder Black Knight FC, Tim Bezbatchenko, has spent a week reviewing Hibernian's operations at their training ground. (Record) (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/black-knights-chief-makes-hibs-33948459)Coz it didn't happen, or if it did it was only so Kensell could get some kind of freebie

And if not it's probably just to confirm how much of a joke we are

Something along they lines

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04Sauzee
23-10-2024, 10:41 AM
He can when the SFA change the rules.....

Genuine question, is that something that's in the pipeline or something we are guessing will happen?

Would the Black Knights maybe look to buy the Gordon's shares?

Lago
23-10-2024, 10:51 AM
Coz it didn't happen, or if it did it was only so Kensell could get some kind of freebie

And if not it's probably just to confirm how much of a joke we are

Something along they lines

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A somewhat puzzling post,are you saying it didn't happen or it did happen or you just don't know ?

flash
23-10-2024, 10:51 AM
Coz it didn't happen, or if it did it was only so Kensell could get some kind of freebie

And if not it's probably just to confirm how much of a joke we are

Something along they lines

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What are you on about?

Onceinawhile
23-10-2024, 11:07 AM
A somewhat puzzling post,are you saying it didn't happen or it did happen or you just don't know ?

A few posts above had people saying there was no meeting
Then someone said at least Ben Ken only went to save cash on the lecky bill from his sunbed. Etc...

Bristolhibby
23-10-2024, 11:08 AM
So when is Roy Keane coming in as SDGs replacement?

Latest “news” from the Scottish Sun. No link as I refuse to share their links or give them access to my cookies.

J

Paulie Walnuts
23-10-2024, 11:13 AM
So when is Roy Keane coming in as SDGs replacement?

Latest “news” from the Scottish Sun. No link as I refuse to share their links or give them access to my cookies.

J

Apparently speculation has mounted that Gray could be sacked after another bad result. The article is of course absolute nonsense/guesswork, but there’s your answer for when!

Roy Keane 7/4 favourite to be next Hibs manager.

Lago
23-10-2024, 11:20 AM
Apparently speculation has mounted that Gray could be sacked after another bad result. The article is of course absolute nonsense/guesswork, but there’s your answer for when!

Roy Keane 7/4 favourite to be next Hibs manager.
This is getting silly now:greengrin

Paulie Walnuts
23-10-2024, 11:23 AM
This is getting silly now:greengrin

Roy Keane being backed by Kensell and the Gordons. What could go wrong?!

we are hibs
23-10-2024, 11:25 AM
Roy Keane being backed by Kensell and the Gordons. What could go wrong?!Id pay good money to see the negotiations between Kensell and Keane

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Carheenlea
23-10-2024, 11:28 AM
Id pay good money to see the negotiations between Kensell and Keane


“I said to myself, ‘Welcome to Hell’.’”

Callum_62
23-10-2024, 11:32 AM
Frank Lampard is still unemployed I notice...

Wasn't there some tenuous link when the BK involvement became known?


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gbhibby
23-10-2024, 11:40 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c9dl1l6n417o.amp

Can he play centre half?

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Alfred E Newman
23-10-2024, 11:51 AM
Roy Keane being backed by Kensell and the Gordons. What could go wrong?!

If we end up going down the Nutter route I'd rather have Lennon.

Lago
23-10-2024, 01:30 PM
:greengrin:greengrin
If we end up going down the Nutter route I'd rather have Lennon.

Jones28
23-10-2024, 01:49 PM
Id pay good money to see the negotiations between Kensell and Keane

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Keane would shout so loudly at him it would strip him of his tan.

And probably his manhood.

"THIS. IS. SOCCER!"

matty_f
23-10-2024, 03:52 PM
“I said to myself, ‘Welcome to Hell’.’”

:greengrin: TFTM?

overdrive
23-10-2024, 03:58 PM
Id pay good money to see the negotiations between Kensell and Keane

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BK: Sorry, I'm late, Roy. There was a queue at Tanz then I had a couple of street beers with Fagin and his balaclava boys

RK: Nah, not for me. Bye

Carheenlea
23-10-2024, 05:37 PM
:greengrin: TFTM?

:top marks

Lendo
23-10-2024, 05:54 PM
Where do you pull they numbers from?

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The £30k sounds correct from memory. The job advert was posted on here (or maybe the PM board) at the time. Loads of discussions about the calibre of candidate you would be hiring for such an important role at such a low salary.

Coco Bryce
23-10-2024, 05:58 PM
Never mind manager. Get him in the centre mid role.

Callum_62
23-10-2024, 06:03 PM
The £30k sounds correct from memory. The job advert was posted on here (or maybe the PM board) at the time. Loads of discussions about the calibre of candidate you would be hiring for such an important role at such a low salary.I was meaning more the "£60-70k" he apparently was now getting


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