Get McInnes In

[thebausburst]

The board/Gordons/BK need to stump up and make this happen whatever it costs otherwise we are going to get relegated it’s that simple.

[JohnM1875]

McInnes won't work under our structure. How many times is this going to get suggested.

[HFC93]

He's not interested.

[cabbageandribs1875]

but we're a big club and he should be interested :grr:

[Centre Hawf]

McInnes won't work under our structure. How many times is this going to get suggested.

I agree, but i'd happily rip up the structure to get him in.

[HONG KONG PHOOEY]

Why would he come to us ? Get rid of the Malky & Ben first

[JJP]

Do you honestly think any manager with any sort of decent record would be keen to work under this regime? We just need to hope Gray can sort it out.

[One Day Soon]

McInnes won't work under our structure. How many times is this going to get suggested.

I know what you mean but 'structure'? We don't have a structure, we have a series of job titles and sound bites - all of which mean **** all whenever one of the co-conspirators inside the nepotistic mates circle decides to do something they want.

We need to wipe the slate clean and bring football people in who are willing to front up to the owner and the CE rather than kiss their asses.

[blackpoolhibs]

Dont be silly, he has no previous for winning games by strangling the **** out the game, why would we want him?:rolleyes:

[Itsnoteasy]

His team are hardly setting the heather on fire.

[JohnM1875]

I know what you mean but 'structure'? We don't have a structure, we have a series of job titles and sound bites - all of which mean **** all whenever one of the co-conspirators inside the nepotistic mates circle decides to do something they want.

We need to wipe the slate clean and bring football people in who are willing to front up to the owner and the CE rather than kiss their asses.

Completely agree with you.

[Paulie Walnuts]

McInnes won't work under our structure. How many times is this going to get suggested.

Whilst you’re correct, the answer to that problem is simple.. change the shambolic structure.

[thebausburst]

His team are hardly setting the heather on fire.
Look at his record managing in the SPL, in case you haven’t noticed we’re bottom with 3 times the budget.

[Ozyhibby]

McInnes won't work under our structure. How many times is this going to get suggested.

I think we need to change the structure then. Spending a fortune on middle management is ridiculous anyway.


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[Waxy]

Bedwetters paradise tonight in here

[Pretty Boy]

Ship has sailed.

He was the obvious choice at least twice but it's essential that Hibs try to be the smartest man in the room so we looked elsewhere.

He's not daft. He's turned bigger jobs than us down because they were a basket case and frankly we make Rangers and Sunderland look positively professional right now.

[Iain G]

Oh FFS the weird McInnes fanboys are our again 😳

[One Day Soon]

Bedwetters paradise tonight in here

Now do 'there are no American tanks in Baghdad'.

[Coco Bryce]

McInnes wouldn't come to Hibs 😂

[Exuberance1875]

Killie are 10th in the league…awful shout. If he was good enough he’d have had the job ages ago.

[Coco Bryce]

Bedwetters paradise tonight in here

Bedshatters more like.

[thebausburst]

Killie are 10th in the league…awful shout. If he was good enough he’d have had the job ages ago.

How’s it an awful shout at Dons he won the LC, finished Scottish Premiership runners-up on four occasions and reached three other cup finals!! He’s just got Killie into Europe on a fraction of Hibs budget, aye terrible shout 🥴

[thebausburst]

McInnes wouldn't come to Hibs 😂
How do you know.

[thebausburst]

Oh FFS the weird McInnes fanboys are our again 😳

Weird to want, based on their record, the best Scottish manager 🥴

[Coco Bryce]

How do you know.

Because I do.

[thebausburst]

Because I do.

🥴

[Ozyhibby]

Bedwetters paradise tonight in here

Yip, we’re in fine fettle. This is just a blip.[emoji849]


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[Paul1642]

Bedwetters paradise tonight in here

Straw that broke the camel back for me.

Been on a downward trajectory for far too long and every time we show a glimpse of turning it around we implode. Sick of it and there’s only one way next weeks derby is going.

McInnes is the one name I can think of who could sort this out right now.

[thebausburst]

Straw that broke the camel back for me.

Been on a downward trajectory for far too long and every time we show a glimpse of turning it around we implode. Sick of it and there’s only one way next weeks derby is going.

McInnes is the one name I can think of who could sort this out right now.

💯

[BH Hibs]

Can we just get a ****ing proper football manager in please and stop messing about with experimenting with rookies and guys from the other end of the world. And please not MacKay he can GTF as well.

[Since90+2]

Anyone claiming McInness isn't interested is talking from no knowledge base whatsoever. Something that happens regularly on this forum.

He might not be but I'd suggest nobody on here actually knows whether he does or not.

[SHODAN]

No manager will fix this. We are beyond that now.

[Since90+2]

Ship has sailed.

He was the obvious choice at least twice but it's essential that Hibs try to be the smartest man in the room so we looked elsewhere.

He's not daft. He's turned bigger jobs than us down because they were a basket case and frankly we make Rangers and Sunderland look positively professional right now.

He wasn't managing a smaller club than Hibs when those offers were made.

[One Day Soon]

Yip, we’re in fine fettle. This is just a blip.[emoji849]


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Nothing to see here...

[Paul1642]

Can we just get a ****ing proper football manager in please and stop messing about with experimenting with rookies and guys from the other end of the world. And please not MacKay he can GTF as well.

Agree but who though? Other than the one this thread is about, the ones who would come to us are in short supply, hence Aberdeen looking to Scandinavia (successfully), and Hearts looking to an experiment (hopefully not successfully).

Would John McGlynn be such a crazy idea?

[Waxy]

Straw that broke the camel back for me.

Been on a downward trajectory for far too long and every time we show a glimpse of turning it around we implode. Sick of it and there’s only one way next weeks derby is going.

McInnes is the one name I can think of who could sort this out right now.
Oh get a grip.
I think our manager deserves a fair crack.
Hasnt even had a derby yet.
We were five minutes from moving into 7th place today this league is so tight at the moment.

[Coco Bryce]

Anyone claiming McInness isn't interested is talking from no knowledge base whatsoever. Something that happens regularly on this forum.

He might not be but I'd suggest nobody on here actually knows whether he does or not.

McInnes likes to be in charge of all football matters including signings.

Not happening at Hibs.

[JohnM1875]

McInnes likes to be in charge of all football matters including signings.

Not happening at Hibs.

Exactly. Especially after the BK group investment.

[Paul1642]

Oh get a grip.
I think our manager deserves a fair crack.
Hasnt even had a derby yet.
We were five minutes from moving into 7th place today this league is so tight at the moment.

5 minutes away and who did he bring on? Josh F***** Campbell.

We were also 5 minutes away vs Dundee and Kilmarnock. No points for being 6 minutes away unfortunately.

Do you honesty think he’s showing any signs of turning this around?

[blackpoolhibs]

This lot wouldnt appoint Pep if he said he wanted the job, and why the hell would McInness want this job, the club are a shambles from top to bottom, thats why we went for Gray.

Less fuss, cheaper than someone who knows what they are doing, and they knew he wouldnt knock us back.

[BH Hibs]

Agree but who though? Other than the one this thread is about, the ones who would come to us are in short supply, hence Aberdeen looking to Scandinavia (successfully), and Hearts looking to an experiment (hopefully not successfully).

Would John McGlynn be such a crazy idea?

Id start with Robinson, McInness, Docherty although he hasn’t managed for that long. I’d even take Lennon back right now if he wanted it. And yes McGlynn is bat**** crazy.

[justlikebrazil]

Who did Bill Foley have in mind!! Wonder what his thoughts are now!!

[hibees 7062]

Get McGlynn in

[Jim44]

Bedwetters paradise tonight in here

It’s quite astonishing how you could make that comment. Folk are quite rightly and justifiably upset and giving their thoughts and comments based on the reality of the situation, which, as you seem to not notice, is dire. Your frivolous, sarky and smug comment doesn’t help matters and isn’t welcome.

[marinello59]

McInnes would be mad to look at the Hibs job while Kensell and co are running the show. He’s not that daft.

[Since90+2]

McInnes likes to be in charge of all football matters including signings.

Not happening at Hibs.

You don't know that.

And we have no idea if the club would reconsider changing the setup. Hibs aren't exactly shy about organisational changes.

[blackpoolhibs]

McInnes would be mad to look at the Hibs job while Kensell and co are running the show. He’s not that daft.

:agree:
Anyone who's not stupid or desperate for a job wouldnt touch us under this lot.

[Jim44]

:agree:
Anyone who's not stupid or desperate for a job wouldnt touch us under this lot.

Correct. Our upper management set up is a nightmare and until the American and his lackeys leave the building, we are destined to float aimlessly at the foot of the table, if lucky. Worse if not.

[Flanny boy]

This lot wouldnt appoint Pep if he said he wanted the job, and why the hell would McInness want this job, the club are a shambles from top to bottom, thats why we went for Gray.

Less fuss, cheaper than someone who knows what they are doing, and they knew he wouldnt knock us back.
It’s not often I agree with you big man 😂 but seriously you’re 💯 right there,what a shambles.Hope you’re well pal 👍

[Stokesy's on fire]

McInnes would be mad to look at the Hibs job while Kensell and co are running the show. He’s not that daft.

That's a valid point the man turned the Sunderland job down based on the chaos going on at the stadium light at the time.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Oh get a grip.
I think our manager deserves a fair crack.
Hasnt even had a derby yet.
We were five minutes from moving into 7th place today this league is so tight at the moment.

Yet we are 12th..it's about results. Gray is out of his depth.

[zitelli62]

Is it to early for scott brown?

[K-Zazu]

Is it to early for scott brown?

We would have been better off going for Brown, won trophy after trophy as a player and actually had some EXPERIENCE being a manager

[Coco Bryce]

You don't know that.

And we have no idea if the club would reconsider changing the setup. Hibs aren't exactly shy about organisational changes.

Yes I really do. I know a person on the Killie board through work.

He's in full control. Not a yes man.

[Jones28]

Oh get a grip.
I think our manager deserves a fair crack.
Hasnt even had a derby yet.
We were five minutes from moving into 7th place today this league is so tight at the moment.

We will be five minutes away from staying up as well. Then something will happen because it always ****ing well does.

[Northernhibee]

No way would he touch us with a fifty foot barge pole. No decent manager would right now.

[Iain G]

Weird to want, based on their record, the best Scottish manager 🥴

Ejculating over Jack Ross with a beard even at a time when we just appointed Gray was bloody weird behaviour

[Unseen work]

Is it to early for scott brown?

Not necessarily too early just don’t think he has done anything to deserve it

[Colr]

The board/Gordons/BK need to stump up and make this happen whatever it costs otherwise we are going to get relegated it’s that simple.

Hibs are a management graveyard. Why would anyone decent come?

[Unseen work]

Ejculating over Jack Ross with a beard even at a time when we just appointed Gray is bloody weird behaviour

God what id to have Jack Ross back

[SHODAN]

Is it to early for scott brown?

Right you know what, I'll take the job. I won the Champions League four years in a row with Arsenal in FM2012 and that was in spite of Danny Wilson as my main CB. Get ready to party folks.

[thebausburst]

Another victory against the uglies for Killie/McInnes on a fraction of our budget, exactly why he is someone we should be going all out for, total no brainer.

[Heisenberg]

McInnes is never coming here now, we missed our chance ages ago.

[He's here!]

Another victory against the uglies for Killie/McInnes on a fraction of our budget, exactly why he is someone we should be going all out for, total no brainer.

That ship sailed about three Hibs managers ago, which was the time we might have got him. He'd laugh at the suggestion of going to us now.

[Ozyhibby]

Another victory against the uglies for Killie/McInnes on a fraction of our budget, exactly why he is someone we should be going all out for, total no brainer.

But he plays boring football? Look how bored those Killie fans looked at full time there and compare it to how much fun we are having. We don’t need that sort of thing here.[emoji23]


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[Ozyhibby]

That ship sailed about three Hibs managers ago, which was the time we might have got him. He'd laugh at the suggestion of going to us now.

If the deal is right he would come here.


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[Coco Bryce]

If the deal is right he would come here.


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No chance.

[Centre Hawf]

He didn’t win the championship by enough points so not good enough.

[thebausburst]

If the deal is right he would come here.


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Of course he would, so many folk playing the club down saying oh but he’d never come here blah blah, fact is we’ve never even formally tried!

[JohnM1875]

Can't wait til Killie go back to a grass pitch and go back to being ***** again.

[blackpoolhibs]

If the deal is right he would come here.


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I doubt it, he's turned down bigger clubs than us when he saw what was happening behind the scenes at those clubs.

We are a shambles, i dont think he'd come irrespective of the offer unles it was daft money and the promise of complete control, and we all know under the Gordons, that will never happen.

[LunasBoots]

If the deal is right he would come here.


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Don't think he would, he's quite happy being near his family.

[JimBHibees]

I doubt it, he's turned down bigger clubs than us when he saw what was happening behind the scenes at those clubs.

We are a shambles, i dont think he'd come irrespective of the offer unles it was daft money and the promise of complete control, and we all know under the Gordons, that will never happen.

Tend to agree

[He's here!]

If the deal is right he would come here.


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I really doubt that. Those running the club these days must be a turn-off for any competent manager.

If he has another strong season at Killie he'll be back in the frame for bigger jobs than Hibs. Personally I think he'll be looking to succeed Clarke as Scotland boss.

[MikeyS]

He didn’t win the championship by enough points so not good enough.

Aye, I can only imagine there are a few thousand thoroughly embarrassed, frustrated and bored Killie fans at having to witness that match

[mcohibs]

Laughable that some didn’t want McInnes as our manager when we had a realistic chance of obtaining him. Exactly what we needed. Ship has now sailed I’m afraid. His record against the old firm with Killie is quite incredible.

[Ozyhibby]

I doubt it, he's turned down bigger clubs than us when he saw what was happening behind the scenes at those clubs.

We are a shambles, i dont think he'd come irrespective of the offer unles it was daft money and the promise of complete control, and we all know under the Gordons, that will never happen.

Absolutely he has. He has been very shrewd in picking employment.
He wants full control of the team. We offer that and a very good budget on top of a good wage and he would come. A deal can always be struck.


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[CentreLine]

Forget McInnes. I’d like to see what the Black Knights suggest as management team. Could be McInnes of course but we need something to change from the broadest number of options.

[The Modfather]

If the deal is right he would come here.


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Sunderland & Rangers would have made the right deal financially. However he’s clever in looking at his career moves through more than just money. As a minimum we would need to allow him to re-structure the football side of things and bring his own people in. Unfortunately, for that reason alone he won’t be coming here anytime soon.

[The Modfather]

Forget McInnes. I’d like to see what the Black Knights suggest as management team. Could be McInnes of course but we need something to change from the broadest number of options.

Maybe the Black Knights will come to the conclusion that from the whole wide world of football, David Gray, Malky Mackay, David Marshall, Liam Craig, Craig Samson & Eddie May are in fact the best candidates out there….

[Springbank]

Killie are 10th in the league…awful shout. If he was good enough he’d have had the job ages ago.

They just saw through a victory against the hated Brexit British and sit 7th

[Ozyhibby]

Sunderland & Rangers would have made the right deal financially. However he’s clever in looking at his career moves through more than just money. As a minimum we would need to allow him to re-structure the football side of things and bring his own people in. Unfortunately, for that reason alone he won’t be coming here anytime soon.

I agree. When I’m talking about the deal, I’m talking about the whole package. Control, budget and financial reward.


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[greenpaper55]

They just saw through a victory against the hated Brexit British and sit 7th

What’s Brexit got to do with football !

[Coco Bryce]

Sunderland & Rangers would have made the right deal financially. However he’s clever in looking at his career moves through more than just money. As a minimum we would need to allow him to re-structure the football side of things and bring his own people in. Unfortunately, for that reason alone he won’t be coming here anytime soon.

This. McInnes wouldn't work under the clowns currently in charge of recruitment at Hibs.

[Ozyhibby]

This. McInnes wouldn't work under the clowns currently in charge of recruitment at Hibs.

He would rightly demand full control of recruitment for himself. And we should say yes.


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[Coco Bryce]

He would rightly demand full control of recruitment for himself. And we should say yes.


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Who's 'we' exactly?

Us fans or Gordon/Kensell/Mackay

It's not happening.

[easty]

What do Hibs do with recruitment that McInnes wouldn’t like?

Are the signings we make not ok’d by Gray?

I’m assuming at Killie McInnes isn’t out scouting the players himself

[Box 17]

McInnes or Robinson should have been top of the list last time. Maybe they were, who knows?

John McGlynn now has to come into the reckoning.

[Ozyhibby]

Who's 'we' exactly?

Us fans or Gordon/Kensell/Mackay

It's not happening.

Hibs?[emoji2369]


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[JohnM1875]

McInnes or Robinson should have been top of the list last time. Maybe they were, who knows?

John McGlynn now has to come into the reckoning.

Whilst I think some folk on here are way too OTT about McInnes, I could get onboard with it. Not Robinson for me though, not just cause they got spanked off Hearts 4-0 yesterday.

Can't believe we're already talking like this after eight ****ing league games though. What an absolute shambles of a club we are. Gordons need to sell up ASAP taking Kensell, Mackay and Marshall with them.

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

When we played McInnes, he asked the question ‘where’s my Joe Newell?’ In the post match interview. :cb

[Liam978]

He would rightly demand full control of recruitment for himself. And we should say yes.


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McInnes , no thanks, we have a Hibbee manager who will get it right, even if he doesn't who honestly wants a hun who thought he wasn't good enough to manage his idols. Regardless of the opinion of the game yesterday there is no denying that the cabbage were by far the better team , we will prevail GG2TH,

[CentreLine]

Maybe the Black Knights will come to the conclusion that from the whole wide world of football, David Gray, Malky Mackay, David Marshall, Liam Craig, Craig Samson & Eddie May are in fact the best candidates out there….

Wouldn’t that be a scream 😱
However unlikely, it’s always possible.

[1875Sean]

🥴

I think when we were looking for a manager and he signed a new deal with Killie pretty much killed any hopes of him coming to us off

[SeanWilson]

McInnes , no thanks, we have a Hibbee manager who will get it right, even if he doesn't who honestly wants a hun who thought he wasn't good enough to manage his idols. Regardless of the opinion of the game yesterday there is no denying that the cabbage were by far the better team , we will prevail GG2TH,

At this stage I wouldn’t be too picky about club allegiance…. Someone who can actually manage a football team would be handy.

We also were not by far the better team yesterday.

[blackpoolhibs]

When we played McInnes, he asked the question ‘where’s my Joe Newell?’ In the post match interview. :cb
Great manager and a sense of humour, what's not to like?

[Cooshed Kid]

Was it when Jack Ross was fired that McInnes was without a club? Either then or Maloney's dismissal. He was a big miss. I don't care that he played for Rangers. Many Hibs' players did so why should we care that our manager did? He wouldn't have been the first. His Aberdeen teams didn't back down against Rangers and I wouldn't have expected his Hibs' team to do so. He expects more.

Anyway, it didn't happen and we have SDG and I hope he succeeds. It's just not looking likely.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Great manager and a sense of humour, what's not to like?

Great manager?

He only got Aberdeen to where they were because Rangers, Hibs and Hearts weren’t in the league. He would never have managed it with the two Edinburgh giants in the league, no way.

He didn’t win the Championship quick enough. After taking over more than halfway through the season in 4th place, he should really have been winning it within about 7 or 8 games. He was really crap that season.

Then when he came up with Kilmarnock he couldn’t even get them top 6 in his first season back up. All he managed was to consolidate their place in the league!

All his teams do is foul. I know that every statistical piece of evidence suggest this isn’t the case, but it’s definitely true.

Or something along those lines.

[Cooshed Kid]

Great manager?

He only got Aberdeen to where they were because Rangers, Hibs and Hearts weren’t in the league. He would never have managed it with the two Edinburgh giants in the league, no way.


The two Edinburgh giants? What is this, have we stepped into a Delorean and gone back to 1955?

[MikeyS]

Great manager?

He only got Aberdeen to where they were because Rangers, Hibs and Hearts weren’t in the league. He would never have managed it with the two Edinburgh giants in the league, no way.

He didn’t win the Championship quick enough. After taking over more than halfway through the season in 4th place, he should really have been winning it within about 7 or 8 games. He was really crap that season.

Then when he came up with Kilmarnock he couldn’t even get them top 6 in his first season back up. All he managed was to consolidate their place in the league!

All his teams do is foul. I know that every statistical piece of evidence suggest this isn’t the case, but it’s definitely true.

Or something along those lines.

:greengrin you'll get a few with this

[Carheenlea]

Never bought the “Rangers” aspect as being a stumbling block with the notion of McInnes being appointed and accepted by the support.

If I hear the name Derek McInnes, I never automatically think “Rangers”. The only time I ever read of his Rangers connections is in here.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Great manager and a sense of humour, what's not to like?
:thumbsup:

[cubehindthegoal]

Hibs fans arguing about who is to blame. When actually:
- there are clearly issues within the club on and off the pitch to fix (we can and will debate what these are specifically - I get that, that’s what a forum is for - until they are fixed)
- referee bias against our club during my fairly long lifetime has been so obvious sometimes it is beyond ridiculous not to see and acknowledge it. I’ve given up discussing and evidencing it now, as I understand some people refuse to see the obvious. They are generally those so fixed in their mindset, and incapable of believing the worst of authority figures - never mind speaking out and challenging them, or even backing those who do - so they trust those that are untrustworthy … Trump and Boris are perfect modern examples, that many still entertain 🙄 There are many more examples throughout our history, never mind those football authority figures, including referees selected by them, that are so obviously linked to the Scottish prejudicial issues ie sectarianism. Or you can turn a blind eye or be fooled as they hope you will. That’s how these folk continue to appear in powerful positions on all levels. But I see I’m too old and too tired to argue it anymore, folk who believe the deceptions of others are so vociferous in their lack of vision and awareness. That’ll be my last on that, and all power to those who still speak up here and say what they see, rather than see what those in positions in both media and football tell them to see and therefore believe.

[Since452]

McInnes wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. Sadly.

[JimBHibees]

Was it when Jack Ross was fired that McInnes was without a club? Either then or Maloney's dismissal. He was a big miss. I don't care that he played for Rangers. Many Hibs' players did so why should we care that our manager did? He wouldn't have been the first. His Aberdeen teams didn't back down against Rangers and I wouldn't have expected his Hibs' team to do so. He expects more.

Anyway, it didn't happen and we have SDG and I hope he succeeds. It's just not looking likely.

His record against Rangers for Aberdeen was genuinely horrendous

[JohnM1875]

McInnes wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. Sadly.

‘Who’s got a barge pole?!’

[Nicho87]

We should have got McInnes about 2/3 years ago. Long before now.

No smoke without fire, hibs were clearly sniffing about to agents end of last season, then lone behold McInnes signs a new contract

Sums where we are up perfectly, decent pedigree managers see Hibs as a club only heading one way. Managers must look at previous appointments and realise the shelf life of a modern day Hibs coach is considerably less than the current average I’d say.

I was 110% all for McInnes but that ship has sailed a long time ago with this current board.

[Crazyhorse]

McInnes wouldn't touch us with a bargepole. Sadly.

Agree.
I know some people on here don’t like him but if he was our manager we would never be in this ridiculous position of sitting bottom of the league.

BTW can anyone explain to me what MacKay has done to transform things since he arrived?

[Contador]

McIness just doesn't 'fit' with Hibs for me. Style of play doesn't suit us either.

Don't think he would work with our structure and it's too much of a sideways step for him right now.

Would be interesting to know what his long term career intentions are and whether he has his sights set on going back down south. Potentially want a crack at the Scotland job when Clark goes

[Coco Bryce]

McIness just doesn't 'fit' with Hibs for me. Style of play doesn't suit us either.

Don't think he would work with our structure and it's too much of a sideways step for him right now.

Would be interesting to know what his long term career intentions are and whether he has his sights set on going back down south. Potentially want a crack at the Scotland job when Clark goes

He's defo the next Scotland manager.

[He's here!]

McIness just doesn't 'fit' with Hibs for me. Style of play doesn't suit us either.

Don't think he would work with our structure and it's too much of a sideways step for him right now.

Would be interesting to know what his long term career intentions are and whether he has his sights set on going back down south. Potentially want a crack at the Scotland job when Clark goes

Style of play doesn't suit us?! You think our current 'style' of play is preferable to employing by far the most successful Scottish manager working in our top flight?

[He's here!]

Never bought the “Rangers” aspect as being a stumbling block with the notion of McInnes being appointed and accepted by the support.

If I hear the name Derek McInnes, I never automatically think “Rangers”. The only time I ever read of his Rangers connections is in here.

Any rational fan who would like to see Hibs well managed and actually punching their weight would agree.

The Rangers thing is a desperate excuse. He probably played for half a dozen other clubs and also turned down the Ibrox manager's job.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

His record against Rangers for Aberdeen was genuinely horrendous

I seem to recall some real drubbings against Celtic too…

McInnes is no messiah. A Jack Ross type appointment. Whilst he may even steady our sorry ship in time (I’d suggest a shortish honeymoon period) we’d hear the same complaints as Jack found.

[Pretty Boy]

I seem to recall some real drubbings against Celtic too…

McInnes is no messiah. A Jack Ross type appointment. Whilst he may even steady our sorry ship in time (I’d suggest a shortish honeymoon period) we’d hear the same complaints as Jack found.

I think many will have seen the decline since Ross left the building and have shifted their expectations of a Hibs manager accordingly.

I was never all in on 'Ross out' but I found some of the performances in the latter stages of cup competitions hard to forgive. Overall it was folly to sack him after one bad run though (particularly so because I still believe part of the reason for his sacking was him calling out the ludicrous recruitment situation publicly after our European exit, a situation that has set us back about 5 years, he all but named Ian Gordon and the clock was ticking from that point on). We'd be in a far better position if he had remained in post. I'm fully aware that is 20/20 hindsight but it's all we have now.

I'm equally certain we would be in a far better position right now if we had replaced him, Maloney, Johnson or Montgomery with McInnnes. Whatever his perceived faults he gets teams punching their weight and I think most of us would kill for that right now.

[Crazyhorse]

McIness just doesn't 'fit' with Hibs for me. Style of play doesn't suit us either.

Don't think he would work with our structure and it's too much of a sideways step for him right now.

Would be interesting to know what his long term career intentions are and whether he has his sights set on going back down south. Potentially want a crack at the Scotland job when Clark goes

The one thing I agree with you with is that we don’t have the structure for a McIness to come in and succeed. But that is nothing to do with McIness - our structure is utter sh ite. While we have this structure, with MacKay stealing a wage, there is little chance of anyone succeeding. I feel sorry for David all the focus was on this new structure but the structure apparently means anyone who wants to be an actual manager need not apply.

Unfortunately we have been here before with heroes like Franc and Mixu…

[JohnM1875]

The one thing I agree with you with is that we don’t have the structure for a McIness to come in and succeed. But that is nothing to do with McIness - our structure is utter sh ite. While we have this structure, with MacKay stealing a wage, there is little chance of anyone succeeding. I feel sorry for David all the focus was on this new structure but the structure apparently means anyone who wants to be an actual manager need not apply.

Unfortunately we have been here before with heroes like Franc and Mixu…

Our structure is probably the same as about 80% of all football clubs have these days. Structure isn't the issue it's the people employed to carry it out.

I'm probably being dramatic with the percentage, but the point I'm trying to make is we’re not some weird outlier with our recruitment structure.

[Itsnoteasy]

Great manager?

He only got Aberdeen to where they were because Rangers, Hibs and Hearts weren’t in the league. He would never have managed it with the two Edinburgh giants in the league, no way.

He didn’t win the Championship quick enough. After taking over more than halfway through the season in 4th place, he should really have been winning it within about 7 or 8 games. He was really crap that season.

Then when he came up with Kilmarnock he couldn’t even get them top 6 in his first season back up. All he managed was to consolidate their place in the league!

All his teams do is foul. I know that every statistical piece of evidence suggest this isn’t the case, but it’s definitely true.

Or something along those lines.


We were maybe giants a long time ago. League finishes & trophy haul over the last 40/50 years certainly tell you that we are no giant now.

[Crazyhorse]

McIness just doesn't 'fit' with Hibs for me. Style of play doesn't suit us either.

Don't think he would work with our structure and it's too much of a sideways step for him right now.

Would be interesting to know what his long term career intentions are and whether he has his sights set on going back down south. Potentially want a crack at the Scotland job when Clark goes

The one thing I agree with you with is that we don’t have the structure for a McIness to come in and succeed. But that is nothing to do with McIness - our structure is utter sh ite. While we have this structure, with MacKay stealing a wage, there is little chance of anyone succeeding. I feel sorry for David all the focus was on this new structure but the structure apparently means anyone who wants to be an actual manager need not apply.

Unfortunately we have been here before with heroes like Franc and Mixu…

[Crazyhorse]

[QUOTE=JohnM1875;7793676]Our structure is probably the same as about 80% of all football clubs have these days. Structure isn't the issue it's the people employed to carry it out.

I'm probably being dramatic with the percentage, but the point I'm trying to make is we’re not some weird outlier with our recruitment structure.[/

Maybe you’re right I confess I haven’t checked the other teams management structures closely but it seems to me we are a bit of an outlier in Scotland. Everyone else seems to have an experienced manager who all the non-playing staff work for. We have sporting director Mackay who everyone works for including our manager.
Would be fine perhaps, accept we look more clueless now than before MM showed up.

[Ozyhibby]

[QUOTE=JohnM1875;7793676]Our structure is probably the same as about 80% of all football clubs have these days. Structure isn't the issue it's the people employed to carry it out.

I'm probably being dramatic with the percentage, but the point I'm trying to make is we’re not some weird outlier with our recruitment structure.[/

Maybe you’re right I confess I haven’t checked the other teams management structures closely but it seems to me we are a bit of an outlier in Scotland. Everyone else seems to have an experienced manager who all the non-playing staff work for. We have sporting director Mackay who everyone works for including our manager.
Would be fine perhaps, accept we look more clueless now than before MM showed up.

I’d be surprised if more than half the teams above us had as many middle managers as we do?[emoji2369]


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[Cooshed Kid]

Can someone remind me as I have lost track. In the last couple of seasons did we manage to beat the Uglies even once? What's Kilmarnock's score in the same time period, 4 or 5 victories? That McInnes guy is completely useless against them, an absolute impostor. Somebody should tell the Killie team they're doing it all wrong.

[Donegal Hibby]

Can someone remind me as I have lost track. In the last couple of seasons did we manage to beat the Uglies even once? What's Kilmarnock's score in the same time period, 4 or 5 victories? That McInnes guy is completely useless against them, an absolute impostor. How doesn't his team realise that?

4-2 against Celtic at ER I think…. How many of the 4 or 5 are on that pitch that looks like my grans old rug though?

[Cooshed Kid]

4-2 against Celtic at ER I think…. How many of the 4 or 5 are on that pitch that looks like my grans old rug though?

Aye, I had forgotten the 4-2 when Celtic really had nothing to play for except pride. Killie tends to eke out results when there is actually something at stake.

The plastic pitch gets a lot of credit for success from some quarters. McInnes' detractors always give it all the credit and I think that's unlikely. It's not like the visiting teams don't know what to expect and never practice on artificial surfaces. It's like our slope in the past. It gave us a slight advantage in theory but in practice a home game didn't mean ER was an impenetrable fortress for us, especially against the Uglies.

I think it's 4 home wins for Killie in the last season and a bit, 2 against each of them and all of them in the first half of the season when the stakes were high and injuries had not yet tipped the scales in favour of the teams with the larger squads and talent in depth. Well played, Killie.

[HoboHarry]

4-2 against Celtic at ER I think…. How many of the 4 or 5 are on that pitch that looks like my grans old rug though?

**** sake, I don't want to see any grannys old rug...... 😁

[Cooshed Kid]

**** sake, I don't want to see any grannys old rug...... ��

:top marks

[southern hibby]

Maybe the Black Knights will come to the conclusion that from the whole wide world of football, David Gray, Malky Mackay, David Marshall, Liam Craig, Craig Samson & Eddie May are in fact the best candidates out there….

Then they need drug tested, as they’re defo on hallucinogenics.

GGTTH