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Pretty Boy
17-10-2024, 06:41 PM
First two inductees announced as Alex Edwards and Tom Hart.
gbhibby
17-10-2024, 06:43 PM
Well deserved
scoopyboy
17-10-2024, 07:17 PM
First two inductees announced as Alex Edwards and Tom Hart.
Third one not announced yet?
Third one not announced yet?
Just thinking that… went onto socials and nothing
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Pretty Boy
17-10-2024, 07:50 PM
Joelle Murray next inductee.
….………
Suzy Robertson
Paul Hanlon
Lewis Stevenson
scoopyboy
17-10-2024, 08:40 PM
….………
Suzy Robertson
Paul Hanlon
Lewis Stevenson
There was no way Paul was getting inducted without Lewis or vice versa
EVENTUALLY
17-10-2024, 08:44 PM
First two inductees announced as Alex Edwards and Tom Hart.
Long overdue, especially Mr. Hart.
Tom McNiven ought to have been inducted before now too.
scoopyboy
17-10-2024, 08:51 PM
Don’t know if previous inductees were listed tonight or not but would help my question.
Has Neil Martin ever been inducted into the hall of fame?
EVENTUALLY
17-10-2024, 08:56 PM
Don’t know if previous inductees were listed tonight or not but would help my question.
Has Neil Martin ever been inducted into the hall of fame?
I don't think so but another worthy candidate. Great goal scorer and like Peter Cormack was superb in the air.
Henderson2Del
17-10-2024, 09:31 PM
Hard to class someone who I imagine 99% of Hibs fans have never heard as a legend in Suzy Robertson.
So many other ahead but let’s keep the peace
stuart-farquhar
17-10-2024, 09:47 PM
Hard to class someone who I imagine 99% of Hibs fans have never heard as a legend in Suzy Robertson.
So many other ahead but let’s keep the peace
Who is that?
Centre Hawf
17-10-2024, 09:59 PM
Hard to class someone who I imagine 99% of Hibs fans have never heard as a legend in Suzy Robertson.
So many other ahead but let’s keep the peace
While admittedly I don’t know much about her from first hand experience I think someone who looks to have played such an important role early on in the Women’s team deserves to be labelled a legend for them and thus a space in our hall of fame.
Twiglet
17-10-2024, 10:48 PM
Don’t know if previous inductees were listed tonight or not but would help my question.
Has Neil Martin ever been inducted into the hall of fame?
Not to date. Is he a future contender do you think?
Past inductees (if the photos work).
28207
Tambo
17-10-2024, 10:49 PM
Congratulations to all inductees.
marinello59
17-10-2024, 10:52 PM
Congratulations to all inductees.
:agree:
BILLYHIBS
18-10-2024, 06:43 AM
Anyone know if Dan McMichael has been inducted yet ?
Garymcl
18-10-2024, 07:09 AM
Tom Mcniven surely has
scoopyboy
18-10-2024, 08:31 AM
Not to date. Is he a future contender do you think?
Past inductees (if the photos work).
28207
Thanks for that. It was a topic amongst a few of us a while back and nobody was sure if he was or wasn’t.
Tranent man that did really well at Hibs and scored a lot of goals, first man to score 100 league goals in Scotland and England.
Not sure if he will get in or not in years to come
BILLYHIBS
18-10-2024, 09:15 AM
Hibernian Hall Of Fame
( Please feel free to add any I have missed )
Michael Whelahan
James McGhee
Harry Rennie
Hugh Shaw
Gordon Smith
Bobby Johnstone
Eddie Turnbull
Lawrie Reilly
Willie Ormond
Joe Baker
Pat Stanton
Alan Rough
Jimmy O’Rourke
Arthur Duncan
John Fraser
Jackie MacNamara
Harry Swan
Sir Tom Farmer
Jimmy McColl
Eric Stevenson
Keith Wright
Tommy Preston
Peter Cormack
John Brownlie
Alex Cropley
Laura Kennedy
Bobby Combe
Tommy Younger
John Blackley
Gordon Hunter
Franck Sauzee
Alex Edwards
Tom Hart
Joelle Murray
Suzy Shepherd
Paul Hanlon
Lewis Stevenson
Berwickhibby
18-10-2024, 01:59 PM
Very enjoyable evening …nice relaxed atmosphere
Roxyhibee
18-10-2024, 02:30 PM
Hibernian Hall Of Fame
( Please feel free to add any I have missed )
Michael Whelahan
James McGhee
Harry Rennie
Hugh Shaw
Gordon Smith
Bobby Johnstone
Eddie Turnbull
Lawrie Reilly
Willie Ormond
Joe Baker
Pat Stanton
Alan Rough
Jimmy O’Rourke
Arthur Duncan
John Fraser
Jackie MacNamara
Harry Swan
Sir Tom Farmer
Jimmy McColl
Eric Stevenson
Keith Wright
Tommy Preston
Peter Cormack
John Brownlie
Alex Cropley
Laura Kennedy
Bobby Combe
Tommy Younger
John Blackley
Gordon Hunter
Franck Sauzee
Alex Edwards
Tom Hart
Joelle Murray
Suzy Shepherd
Paul Hanlon
Lewis Stevenson
Thanks for posting this. Neil Martin should certainly be on it and where is Mickey Weir.? Played a huge role in restoring our pride by helping us win a cup just a year after Mercer’s takeover bid.
MikeyS
18-10-2024, 02:45 PM
Derek Riordan should be inducted already in my opinion, I doubt many of us on here will see someone score over 100 goals again.
HibbyAndy
18-10-2024, 03:11 PM
Derek Riordan should be inducted already in my opinion, I doubt many of us on here will see someone score over 100 goals again.
Totally agree
Bishop Hibee
18-10-2024, 03:15 PM
Derek Riordan should be inducted already in my opinion, I doubt many of us on here will see someone score over 100 goals again.
Best two footed player I’ve seen at ER. 104 goals in 260 appearances. Definitely worth a place in the Hall of Fame.
JohnM1875
18-10-2024, 03:15 PM
Derek Riordan should be inducted already in my opinion, I doubt many of us on here will see someone score over 100 goals again.
I'm guessing players can decline it? Though don't think Riordan would. Unbelievable he isn't in it already.
BILLYHIBS
18-10-2024, 03:42 PM
Thanks for posting this. Neil Martin should certainly be on it and where is Mickey Weir.? Played a huge role in restoring our pride by helping us win a cup just a year after Mercer’s takeover bid.
Wish I had seen the image of the inductees posted earlier took me ages to track down with a few rabbit holes on wiki 😃
Bostonhibby
18-10-2024, 03:51 PM
I suppose we could all make a case for many favourites, great servants, loyal Hibbies etc and it's right that this is done over time. I'd endorse the calls for Derek Riordan and would dearly love to see my hero from back in the day, Erich Schaedler recognised here too, bled Hibs and never let us down.
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Centre Hawf
18-10-2024, 03:59 PM
I suppose we could all make a case for many favourites, great servants, loyal Hibbies etc and it's right that this is done over time. I'd endorse the calls for Derek Riordan and would dearly love to see my hero from back in the day, Erich Schaedler recognised here too, bled Hibs and never let us down.
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I'm not sure on what the history of our HoF has been but it seems like there wasn't much of one for a long time and its had years of quiet at times.
It seems like we're playing catch up a little bit with some names getting in posthumous that you would have assumed were already in it (Schaedler being an example). The natural reaction would be to race to induct as many of these guys as possible now the ball is rolling but on the flip side you also want to celebrate as many of these guys while they're still with us too.
Bostonhibby
18-10-2024, 04:09 PM
I'm not sure on what the history of our HoF has been but it seems like there wasn't much of one for a long time and its had years of quiet at times.
It seems like we're playing catch up a little bit with some names getting in posthumous that you would have assumed were already in it (Schaedler being an example). The natural reaction would be to race to induct as many of these guys as possible now the ball is rolling but on the flip side you also want to celebrate as many of these guys while they're still with us too.Yeah, hard to say what's right, I'm definitely happy that it's being done and how it's being done.
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Pagan Hibernia
18-10-2024, 04:10 PM
Hibernian Hall Of Fame
( Please feel free to add any I have missed )
Michael Whelahan
James McGhee
Harry Rennie
Hugh Shaw
Gordon Smith
Bobby Johnstone
Eddie Turnbull
Lawrie Reilly
Willie Ormond
Joe Baker
Pat Stanton
Alan Rough
Jimmy O’Rourke
Arthur Duncan
John Fraser
Jackie MacNamara
Harry Swan
Sir Tom Farmer
Jimmy McColl
Eric Stevenson
Keith Wright
Tommy Preston
Peter Cormack
John Brownlie
Alex Cropley
Laura Kennedy
Bobby Combe
Tommy Younger
John Blackley
Gordon Hunter
Franck Sauzee
Alex Edwards
Tom Hart
Joelle Murray
Suzy Shepherd
Paul Hanlon
Lewis Stevenson
Canon Hannan?
BILLYHIBS
18-10-2024, 04:46 PM
Canon Hannan?
Nope not yet
https://i.ibb.co/hH12sRK/IMG-3013.png (https://ibb.co/6bJDYR4)
Pagan Hibernia
18-10-2024, 04:49 PM
Nope not yet
https://i.ibb.co/hH12sRK/IMG-3013.png (https://ibb.co/6bJDYR4)
Well that's quite unbelievable in my opinion.
Donegal Hibby
18-10-2024, 04:49 PM
Gordon Rae on it ? Few pictures here….
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/october/18/gallery--hall-of-fame-2024/
gbhibby
18-10-2024, 04:54 PM
https://x.com/HibernianRetro/status/1847233122779226258?t=UBdnFQvictvwYwy1-PN1mA&s=19
What would these three at their peak be worth in todays market.
Neil Martin is a great shout for the hall of fame.
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BILLYHIBS
18-10-2024, 05:01 PM
Well that's quite unbelievable in my opinion.
Dan McMichael ?
Neil Martin ?
Shades ?
Pretty Boy
18-10-2024, 05:11 PM
Dan McMichael ?
Neil Martin ?
Shades ?
I'm not sure how it's decided who gets in. I don't think it's a fan vote based on nominees so I assume it's a committee thing.
With no disrespected intended and on the proviso I'd much prefer to argue the merits of who should be in rather than argue someone out it seems odd to me that someone like Alan Rough is in and Erich Schaedler and Canon Hannan aren't.
If it was a Partick Thistle hall of fame then he's an inaugural entrant, at Hibs is he really more deserving than Andy Goram or Jim Leighton (and I wouldn't really argue for their inclusion either, they belong at Aberdeen and Rangers respectively)?
blackpoolhibs
18-10-2024, 05:17 PM
Pat McGinlay.
JimBHibees
18-10-2024, 05:55 PM
I'm not sure how it's decided who gets in. I don't think it's a fan vote based on nominees so I assume it's a committee thing.
With no disrespected intended and on the proviso I'd much prefer to argue the merits of who should be in rather than argue someone out it seems odd to me that someone like Alan Rough is in and Erich Schaedler and Canon Hannan aren't.
If it was a Partick Thistle hall of fame then he's an inaugural entrant, at Hibs is he really more deserving than Andy Goram or Jim Leighton (and I wouldn't really argue for their inclusion either, they belong at Aberdeen and Rangers respectively)?
Agree Rough seems an odd one
HibbyAndy
18-10-2024, 06:26 PM
Pat McGinlay.
Now this guy was a proper box to box player :top marks
MikeyS
18-10-2024, 10:19 PM
I'm not sure how it's decided who gets in. I don't think it's a fan vote based on nominees so I assume it's a committee thing.
With no disrespected intended and on the proviso I'd much prefer to argue the merits of who should be in rather than argue someone out it seems odd to me that someone like Alan Rough is in and Erich Schaedler and Canon Hannan aren't.
If it was a Partick Thistle hall of fame then he's an inaugural entrant, at Hibs is he really more deserving than Andy Goram or Jim Leighton (and I wouldn't really argue for their inclusion either, they belong at Aberdeen and Rangers respectively)?
Good point! What makes Rough more deserving than cup winning goalies like Burridge, McNeil or Logan for example
PHeffernan
18-10-2024, 11:04 PM
Another 4 HOF events and they will be down to meagre rations ...
It will be Joe Tortalano, Willie Miller (both well over 200 games for Hibs) and Alan Sneddon (over 300 games for Hibs) ...
Truth is the event is just another revenue stream for the club so they will induct big name players, who played less than 150 games for Hibs to make it attractive to paying supporters, so expect to see 44 game Steve Archibald etc inducted as straws are grasped.
I see folk wanting Neil Martin inducted. Neil only played 65 games for Hibs.
Saying that, Sauzee, who didn't play many more, is currently the only HOF player who played less than 100 games for Hibs.
Centre Hawf
18-10-2024, 11:41 PM
Another 4 HOF events and they will be down to meagre rations ...
It will be Joe Tortalano, Willie Miller (both well over 200 games for Hibs) and Alan Sneddon (over 300 games for Hibs) ...
Truth is the event is just another revenue stream for the club so they will induct big name players, who played less than 150 games for Hibs to make it attractive to paying supporters, so expect to see 44 game Steve Archibald etc inducted as straws are grasped.
I see folk wanting Neil Martin inducted. Neil only played 65 games for Hibs.
Saying that, Sauzee, who didn't play many more, is currently the only HOF player who played less than 100 games for Hibs.
I understand your point. But I think given how rotten we have been for majority of my life I’m happy to celebrate a lot of these names that perhaps weren’t here as long as we’d have liked.
Someone like Boozy only played about 100 games himself but his contributions to the club on and off the pitch have been excellent and as far as I’m concerned is as big a Hibs man as many of the ones we’d idolise as local Hibs boys and I’d like to see him in there once he retires from coaching at the club.
Call it what you want but if I get to see players that brought me joy watching Hibs get recognised versus the dozens upon dozens that made it a chore the club can generate revenue from me if they want.
Aubenas
19-10-2024, 12:06 AM
Surely Darlin' Willie Groves should be in there?
PHeffernan
19-10-2024, 12:33 AM
I understand your point. But I think given how rotten we have been for majority of my life I’m happy to celebrate a lot of these names that perhaps weren’t here as long as we’d have liked.
Someone like Boozy only played about 100 games himself but his contributions to the club on and off the pitch have been excellent and as far as I’m concerned is as big a Hibs man as many of the ones we’d idolise as local Hibs boys and I’d like to see him in there once he retires from coaching at the club.
Call it what you want but if I get to see players that brought me joy watching Hibs get recognised versus the dozens upon dozens that made it a chore the club can generate revenue from me if they want.
This time they went with two guys from over half a century ago, two recent mens team players and two recent women players with 5 of the inductees alive and able to attend.
Could see the next 6 inductees being Edward Hannan, Erich Schaedler, Derek Riordan, Garry O'Connor, Alan Stubbs and Siobhan Hunter.
Centre Hawf
19-10-2024, 01:02 AM
This time they went with two guys from over half a century ago, two recent mens team players and two recent women players with 5 of the inductees alive and able to attend.
Could see the next 6 inductees being Edward Hannan, Erich Schaedler, Derek Riordan, Garry O'Connor, Alan Stubbs and Siobhan Hunter.
Similar to the one two years ago where it was Laura Kennedy as the first woman, Tommy Younger and Bobby Combe as the historical choices, Blackley for the Tornadoes era, then Hunter and Sauzee for the 80s/90s eras.
Paul and Lewy are probably standouts in that they’ve been inducted so soon, they’re currently out there still playing, I’d be surprised to see the likes of Deeks soon. But I could be wrong.
Brightside
19-10-2024, 06:53 AM
They shouldn’t do it again for 10 years. It’s become diluted. Lewis and Paul were obvious additions. But that’s enough for a while.
Pagan Hibernia
19-10-2024, 07:22 AM
Surely Darlin' Willie Groves should be in there?
Lesser green turncoat!
(I'm only joking, if any of Willie's descendents happen to be reading hibs.net)
scoopyboy
19-10-2024, 07:27 AM
They shouldn’t do it again for 10 years. It’s become diluted. Lewis and Paul were obvious additions. But that’s enough for a while.
I would agree with that.
Shouldn’t be an annual event as the quality we currently have could quickly be diluted down
One Day
19-10-2024, 07:54 AM
Surely Darlin' Willie Groves should be in there?
I'll second that
Pretty Boy
19-10-2024, 07:56 AM
I would agree with that.
Shouldn’t be an annual event as the quality we currently have could quickly be diluted down
It's strange because I agree about not diluting the honour as well but then I think there are some glaring omissions that really should be rectified sooner than a decade down the line.
Hannan, McMichael and Schaedler as 3 obvious examples. The first as one of the clubs founders is a staggering absentee really. The second was de facto manager for a Scottish Cup and League win, the clubs first actual manager and served the club from close to it's foundation until his untimely death. The latter is widely regarded as one of the most commited players to ever play for the club and so many of his peers are already in.
I can see both sides of the argument but with next year being a milestone year they really need to get the first 2 inducted imo.
BILLYHIBS
19-10-2024, 08:09 AM
Another 4 HOF events and they will be down to meagre rations ...
It will be Joe Tortalano, Willie Miller (both well over 200 games for Hibs) and Alan Sneddon (over 300 games for Hibs) ...
Truth is the event is just another revenue stream for the club so they will induct big name players, who played less than 150 games for Hibs to make it attractive to paying supporters, so expect to see 44 game Steve Archibald etc inducted as straws are grasped.
I see folk wanting Neil Martin inducted. Neil only played 65 games for Hibs.
Saying that, Sauzee, who didn't play many more, is currently the only HOF player who played less than 100 games for Hibs.
Neil Martin was a prolific striker scoring 86 goals in 114 appearances for Hibernian the full striking package having power presence and height his 53 league goals from 65 league games represents 82% strike rate
Scored four goals versus Celtic at Darkheid in a 4-2 win in Jock Stein’s first game against us since defecting to the lesser greens
Pretty sure he was the first player to score 100 league goals in Scotland and England
He was that good for us that Wiki already have him in the Hall of Fame 😃
Sauzee has 90 appearances scoring 16 times
Stevie Archibald 18 goals in 53
Wiki only counts league games
www.fitbastats.com (http://www.fitbastats.com)
superfurryhibby
19-10-2024, 08:11 AM
The inclusion of the female inductees of whom many Hibs fans have never heard of, never mind seen play. That for me is tokenistic nonsense.
BILLYHIBS
19-10-2024, 08:44 AM
I'm not sure how it's decided who gets in. I don't think it's a fan vote based on nominees so I assume it's a committee thing.
With no disrespected intended and on the proviso I'd much prefer to argue the merits of who should be in rather than argue someone out it seems odd to me that someone like Alan Rough is in and Erich Schaedler and Canon Hannan aren't.
If it was a Partick Thistle hall of fame then he's an inaugural entrant, at Hibs is he really more deserving than Andy Goram or Jim Leighton (and I wouldn't really argue for their inclusion either, they belong at Aberdeen and Rangers respectively)?
My memory of Roughie and speaking as an old timer was that there was great excitement when we signed him before Celtic home and he made his debut in a 2-3 defeat performing admirably
He was an old heid in goals in a side cobbled together with mostly youngsters some older pros and Pat Stanton and Jimmy O’Rourke were told basically to get on with it as there was no money
I would say Alan Rough would be worth at least 12 points a season to us and Pat Stanton would be the first to admit he kept him in a job longer than he would have expected keeping 44 shut outs from 206 appearances when Hibs at that time were more often than not up against it
I do not have a problem with Alan Rough getting recognition as he was an outstanding loyal ( still has a soft spot) and consistent performer for us but also feel Goram and Leighton should also deserve recognition sometime in the future
Would be all for Shades McMichael and Canon Hannan and don’t see why Leighton and Goram cannot make both ( Aberdeen and Rangers ) Leighton definitely
Rough’ll be in both
The inclusion of the female inductees of whom many Hibs fans have never heard of, never mind seen play. That for me is tokenistic nonsense.
Hibernian Hall of Fame, not Hibernian Men’s Team Hall of Fame
Joelle has won 14 major trophies, over 500 appearances for Hibs, captain for 12 years.
WeAreHibs
19-10-2024, 11:17 AM
The inclusion of the female inductees of whom many Hibs fans have never heard of, never mind seen play. That for me is tokenistic nonsense.
💯
Since90+2
19-10-2024, 11:20 AM
Hibernian Hall of Fame, not Hibernian Men’s Team Hall of Fame
Joelle has won 14 major trophies, over 500 appearances for Hibs, captain for 12 years.
Were the womens team even officially part of the club until about 4 or 5 years ago?
JohnM1875
19-10-2024, 11:34 AM
Were the womens team even officially part of the club until about 4 or 5 years ago?
Don't think so nah. Was after the Gordons bought us I'm sure.
superfurryhibby
19-10-2024, 12:06 PM
Hibernian Hall of Fame, not Hibernian Men’s Team Hall of Fame
Joelle has won 14 major trophies, over 500 appearances for Hibs, captain for 12 years.
Des Bremner, Derek Riordan, Gordon Rae, Alan Gordon, Ally McLeod, Pat McGinlay, Erich Schaedler......
The women's team doesn't mean much to me. Good luck to them and those who have been part of it etc, but there is no comparison.
silverhibee
19-10-2024, 12:07 PM
I'm guessing players can decline it? Though don't think Riordan would. Unbelievable he isn't in it already.
He hasn’t.
CapitalGreen
19-10-2024, 12:11 PM
The inclusion of the female inductees of whom many Hibs fans have never heard of, never mind seen play. That for me is tokenistic nonsense.
I imagine a significant number of Hibs fans have never seen quite a lot of the inductees play.
superfurryhibby
19-10-2024, 12:15 PM
I imagine a significant number of Hibs fans have never seen quite a lot of the inductees play.
Yes, I never saw Gordon Smith or Eddie Turnbull play, but I have heard of them and know what they did for the club.
penihibs
19-10-2024, 12:17 PM
Derek Riordan should be inducted already in my opinion, I doubt many of us on here will see someone score over 100 goals again.
Good shout.
Roxyhibee
19-10-2024, 12:24 PM
Des Bremner, Derek Riordan, Gordon Rae, Alan Gordon, Ally McLeod, Pat McGinlay, Erich Schaedler......
The women's team doesn't mean much to me. Good luck to them and those who have been part of it etc, but there is no comparison.
Seen all of those 7 fantastic football players and each one brings back incredibly emotional memories. Each of them thrilled the terraces of Easter Road. All very worthy 👍👏🏻
CapitalGreen
19-10-2024, 12:26 PM
Yes, I never saw Gordon Smith or Eddie Turnbull play, but I have heard of them and know what they did for the club.
So you trust the judgement of other’s who did watch them play - why not do the same with woman’s team players selected?
TrinityHFC
19-10-2024, 12:27 PM
I imagine a significant number of Hibs fans have never seen quite a lot of the inductees play.
A bit different when they played in eras when people weren’t born to a part of the club that has been playing and largely nobody goes to watch.
silverhibee
19-10-2024, 12:40 PM
So you trust the judgement of other’s who did watch them play - why not do the same with woman’s team players selected?
As was said earlier in the thread the women’s team only joined the club in 2022 and a few have been inducted already when we have players who have done 10 years hard time at Hibs and not had a look in.
Pretty Boy
19-10-2024, 12:45 PM
I don't have any issues with women's players being included.
I think most people with basic critical thinking skills can understand their impact on the club as a whole hasn't been as great as a Pat Stanton or Jimmy O'Rourke. In terms of the women's game they are hugely successful players and role models to young girls making their way in the game now though. In a time when the club strives to be more of a holistic entity I don't think there is any need to have a separate Hall of Fame depending on sex. Surely people can judge the inclusion of everyone with a bit of context.
Football was a different beast back in 1875. Michael Whelahan wasn't playing a version of the game that is anything like it is today but he was instrumental in starting something that we all love today. His recognition was largely posthumous. We have an opportunity to acknowledge those who have played or are playing a formative role in the women's professional game today. It would be a shame to wait 60 or 70 years and have future generations asking why we didn't acknowledge them when they were here to see it.
I have already said there are a few glaring omissions that should be rectified. That's a different argument altogether though imo. There's no reason they couldn't be included alongside the women rather than in place of them.
superfurryhibby
19-10-2024, 12:48 PM
So you trust the judgement of other’s who did watch them play - why not do the same with woman’s team players selected?
Sorry for not conforming to what you think, I’ll exercise my own right to an opinion on what merits inclusion in Hibernian’s hall of fame. This may have escaped you but Eddie Turnbull also managed Hibs for ten years and that I recall very fondly.
I don’t really consider Hibs women’s team as having had a significant part in the club’s history.
Oscar T Grouch
19-10-2024, 12:59 PM
Sorry for not conforming to what you think, I’ll exercise my own right to an opinion on what merits inclusion in Hibernian’s hall of fame. This may have escaped you but Eddie Turnbull also managed Hibs for ten years and that I recall very fondly.
I don’t really consider Hibs women’s team as having had a significant part in the club’s history.
And yet they were one of the first women's team in the country, a foundation stone in what will be a on going and growing sport. They women's team hold the record in Scotland for Scottish cup wins, almost the antitheses of the mens team, they've won the same amount of league titles in under 30 years as the mens team have in 150 years. They are an inspiration to young girls, who become Hibs fans and come and watch the mens team. I really don't get the anomosity against them, maybe it's just good old fashioned misogyny? Maybe some men are too insecure to want them included in the clubs history given how much more successful they've been compared to the mens team but like it or not they are part of Hibernian's history and I for one are thankful they are.
WeAreHibs
19-10-2024, 01:01 PM
Sorry for not conforming to what you think, I’ll exercise my own right to an opinion on what merits inclusion in Hibernian’s hall of fame. This may have escaped you but Eddie Turnbull also managed Hibs for ten years and that I recall very fondly.
I don’t really consider Hibs women’s team as having had a significant part in the club’s history.
150yr history of which a women's team has been part of it for 3yrs!! Tokenism if ever there was! Each to their own i suppose.
PHeffernan
19-10-2024, 01:06 PM
Neil Martin was a prolific striker scoring 86 goals in 114 appearances for Hibernian the full striking package having power presence and height his 53 league goals from 65 league games represents 82% strike rate
Scored four goals versus Celtic at Darkheid in a 4-2 win in Jock Stein’s first game against us since defecting to the lesser greens
Pretty sure he was the first player to score 100 league goals in Scotland and England
He was that good for us that Wiki already have him in the Hall of Fame
Sauzee has 90 appearances scoring 16 times
Stevie Archibald 18 goals in 53
Wiki only counts league games
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Wiki adds the cup games played by the current era of players in the separate season by season breakdown near the bottom of the page. However, they don't have that breakdown for players from the past. I wrongly assumed they added them to the totals on their career breakdown.
Thanks for putting me right.
Des Bremner, Derek Riordan, Gordon Rae, Alan Gordon, Ally McLeod, Pat McGinlay, Erich Schaedler......
The women's team doesn't mean much to me. Good luck to them and those who have been part of it etc, but there is no comparison.
Would welcome all of them being in the hall of fame, and should be without delay imo
I don't have any issues with women's players being included.
I think most people with basic critical thinking skills can understand their impact on the club as a whole hasn't been as great as a Pat Stanton or Jimmy O'Rourke. In terms of the women's game they are hugely successful players and role models to young girls making their way in the game now though. In a time when the club strives to be more of a holistic entity I don't think there is any need to have a separate Hall of Fame depending on sex. Surely people can judge the inclusion of everyone with a bit of context.
Football was a different beast back in 1875. Michael Whelahan wasn't playing a version of the game that is anything like it is today but he was instrumental in starting something that we all love today. His recognition was largely posthumous. We have an opportunity to acknowledge those who have played or are playing a formative role in the women's professional game today. It would be a shame to wait 60 or 70 years and have future generations asking why we didn't acknowledge them when they were here to see it.
I have already said there are a few glaring omissions that should be rectified. That's a different argument altogether though imo. There's no reason they couldn't be included alongside the women rather than in place of them.
Terrific post :top marks
Centre Hawf
19-10-2024, 01:13 PM
The inclusion of the female inductees of whom many Hibs fans have never heard of, never mind seen play. That for me is tokenistic nonsense.
No one is asking you to go to Hibs Women fixtures. I myself don't exactly attend many, but I think it's a fantastic thing to have the women's side treated with the respect pushed more into the forefront of supporters minds the way it has been recently. Some of these players have had to do a lot of graft and sacrifice to play for Hibs and will have helped inspire many more girls to get into a sport that was seen as for blokes only.
The likes of Joelle Murray has every right to be part of the Hibernian Hall of Fame imo.
BILLYHIBS
19-10-2024, 01:22 PM
Wiki adds the cup games played by the current era of players in the separate season by season breakdown near the bottom of the page. However, they don't have that breakdown for players from the past. I wrongly assumed they added them to the totals on their career breakdown.
Thanks for putting me right.
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hibee-boys
19-10-2024, 01:33 PM
Don’t have a clue how long the Hall of Fame has been going on for, never heard about it until I started receiving emails from the club around this most recent version. Not sure it adds much kudos to the hall of fame when half a dozen are dished out at a time. Keep up this rate and it’ll need to be a very large hall!
Cynic in me would see this as another money making exercise by the club and handing them out like confetti doesn’t exactly ease that cynicism.
scoopyboy
19-10-2024, 01:43 PM
It's strange because I agree about not diluting the honour as well but then I think there are some glaring omissions that really should be rectified sooner than a decade down the line.
Hannan, McMichael and Schaedler as 3 obvious examples. The first as one of the clubs founders is a staggering absentee really. The second was de facto manager for a Scottish Cup and League win, the clubs first actual manager and served the club from close to it's foundation until his untimely death. The latter is widely regarded as one of the most commited players to ever play for the club and so many of his peers are already in.
I can see both sides of the argument but with next year being a milestone year they really need to get the first 2 inducted imo.
Having read your reply to my post and reading other people’s suggestions I have to admit there are omissions that really should have been included, especially the ones that go way back.
Your comment regarding the 150 years has to take place and maybe that is the ideal time to induct the historical ones
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