Great opportunity to promote SPFL missed

[theonlywayisup]

Pity that Celtic v Aberdeen is not broadcast live on TV. Both teams having won seven games out of seven. However, neither Sky Sports nor Premier Sports are broadcasting the game.

Celtic have reportedly opted out of the SPFL's contract with Premier Sports - meaning any chance of the blockbuster top of the table clash with Aberdeen being televised has been ruled out. It is said that Celtic "were reluctant to inconvenience season-ticket holders and home fans travelling from further afield" moving the Saturday 3pm kick-off times. That is why they knocked back the SPFL commercial agreement. It is noted that Sky are limited to five visits per season to each ground and have already been to Parkhead twice this term and have made their selections for the September fixture card.

[JohnM1875]

Think they've done the right thing here personally. If a game can be played Saturday at 3pm then it should be.

[HarpOnHibee]

The broadcasters won't cover OF league home games as not to damage their ticket sales. But they'll happily cover OF away games that damage the ticket sales of other clubs.

[Donegal Hibby]

The broadcasters won't cover OF league home games as not to damage their ticket sales. But they'll happily cover OF away games that damage the ticket sales of other clubs.

Would it have much of an effect on both sets of glory hunters attending ? Or is it a case of showing games on their own patch is even more one-sided than showing them playing away from home ? .

[Pagan Hibernia]

Think they've done the right thing here personally. If a game can be played Saturday at 3pm then it should be.

Agree.

I'll never have a problem with clubs opting to keep a 3pm kickoff instead of changing it for TV.

[Nutmegged]

Celtic never opted into this Premier Sports deal frommthe beginning, the word doing the rounds is Rangers didn't either, but as soon as their game with St Johnstone got moved to 8pm on a Sunday night for the Great Scottish Run, they went back to Premier and offered them that match to cover their potential losses.

£75k per game for facility fees is alright going if you're most clubs in the League, but it barely scratches the surface at either of the Glasgow clubs, at an average of £30 a ticket, it works out at 2500 tickets.

Read on Twitter this morning that Celtic only have 8 home Saturday 3pm games this season, and their board don't want to inconvenience their 53.5k season ticket holders any further... I'm sure if Premier still want to Broadcast from there, then there'll be enough opportunities throughout the season to take games that aren't scheduled for Sat 3pm.

I'm disappointed, I'd have probably watched the game if it was on at 5:30pm on the Saturday after our game at United, you'd imgine the atmosphere would've been electric considering both are at 100% and it'll be under the lights, it's definitely the type of game the League should be promoting, but it's hard to go against clubs when they're putting their STH's first.

That being said, if the money was better then this wouldn't even be a discussion.

[HarpOnHibee]

Would it have much of an effect on both sets of glory hunters attending ? Or is it a case of showing games on their own patch is even more one-sided than showing them playing away from home ? .

I was referring more to home fans of other clubs not turning up if they can just catch the game on the TV. OF fans don't have to travel very far to fill the stands of other clubs, because most of them that fill the away stands at these clubs live near by.

[Steve20]

I knew this would turn into a 'how great are Celtic' thread as soon as I seen the heading.

[Nutmegged]

The broadcasters won't cover OF league home games as not to damage their ticket sales. But they'll happily cover OF away games that damage the ticket sales of other clubs.

That's no really true, Sky have been trying to increase the amount of games hosted at Ibrox and Celtic Park for years but they've never been interested, and other clubs have backed them up on it.

The back and front of it is Season Ticket Holders are the biggest source of income for every Scottish club, and until a TV deal can match or better what the fans generate, then clubs will never make too many home games available, at the moment there is seven of our 19 home games available to broadcast for 11 of the 12 clubs, Celtic being the odd one out with 5 home games, but they won't be due any of the Premier Sports pot (£150k per club)

[superfurryhibby]

I knew this would turn into a 'how great are Celtic' thread as soon as I seen the heading.

:rolleyes:eh....ok

[Pagan Hibernia]

I knew this would turn into a 'how great are Celtic' thread as soon as I seen the heading.

That's odd because no one has said celtic are great

[HarpOnHibee]

That's no really true, Sky have been trying to increase the amount of games hosted at Ibrox and Celtic Park for years but they've never been interested, and other clubs have backed them up on it.

The back and front of it is Season Ticket Holders are the biggest source of income for every Scottish club, and until a TV deal can match or better what the fans generate, then clubs will never make too many home games available, at the moment there is seven of our 19 home games available to broadcast for 11 of the 12 clubs, Celtic being the odd one out with 5 home games, but they won't be due any of the Premier Sports pot (£150k per club)

They wouldn't be interested. Why would they be when they benefit from higher home attendances by not having their own home games televised? It's the other clubs that have home games televised whenever they're playing the OF. If you're a St Johnstone or Killie fan for example and you're given the option to pay 30+ quid to watch your own team being skelpt 4 or 5-0 in the company of pished up bigots that greatly outnumber your own fans at your own ground or to simply stay home and watch it on TV, then the second option is going to be considerably more tempting.

[Nutmegged]

They wouldn't be interested. Why would they be when they benefit from higher home attendances by not having their own home games televised? It's the other clubs that have home games televised whenever they're playing the OF. If you're a St Johnstone or Killie fan for example and you're given the option to pay 30+ quid to watch your own team being skelpt 4 or 5-0 in the company of pished up bigots that greatly outnumber your own fans at your own ground or to simply stay home and watch it on TV, then the second option is going to be considerably more tempting.


Celtic Park and Ibrox are the only two home grounds that Sky fulfill their quota for every single season, every club has the same number of home games that Sky can broadcast from, but there's only two that are always fulfilled.

Yes, practically every one of their away games are on TV, but no one in the league has more home games moved for TV (from Sky) than them.

[SHODAN]

Aberdeen should do the same for the return fixture.

[Carheenlea]

It is said that Celtic "were reluctant to inconvenience season-ticket holders and home fans travelling from further afield" moving the Saturday 3pm kick-off times. That is why they knocked back the SPFL commercial agreement.

Classic Old Firm narcissism and sense of entitlement.

We steadfastly refuse to inconvenience our own fans and devalue their season tickets by moving home games from favoured 3pm KO’s, but expect everyone else to move theirs when we come calling so our fans can enjoy watching every away game on the TV.

They’re some mob.

[tamig]

I knew this would turn into a 'how great are Celtic' thread as soon as I seen the heading.

You never hide your feelings about Celtic but I rarely ever see you having a bad word to say about the other side. What’s your story? You’ve been doing this for years.

[JimBHibees]

Classic Old Firm narcissism and sense of entitlement.

We steadfastly refuse to inconvenience our own fans and devalue their season tickets by moving home games from favoured 3pm KO’s, but expect everyone else to move theirs when we come calling so our fans can enjoy watching every away game on the TV.

They’re some mob.

Incredible that any league can have member clubs actively undermining sponsorship deals. Think Cinch deal last year and this. I thought we rewrote the rules post sevco. Big shout out for Aberdeen protecting the hegemony by voting against the 11 1 voting system. Way to go.

[MWHIBBIES]

Incredible that any league can have member clubs actively undermining sponsorship deals. Think Cinch deal last year and this. I thought we rewrote the rules post sevco. Big shout out for Aberdeen protecting the hegemony by voting against the 11 1 voting system. Way to go.

Aberdeen got nowhere near enough stick for that. ****ing rats

[1875Sean]

Aberdeen should do the same for the return fixture.

If they can afford to do it and put fans first then good on them

[JimBHibees]

Aberdeen got nowhere near enough stick for that. ****ing rats

Totally agree think they got some Celtic loans not long after

[we are hibs]

Interesting the likes of Tom English saying Celtic are right here... I remember 10 years ago Hibs were slated for refusing to show our game V Killie last game before play offs.

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[Jones28]

Interesting the likes of Tom English saying Celtic are right here... I remember 10 years ago Hibs were slated for refusing to show our game V Killie last game before play offs.

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I have a vague memory of being in a pub in Cleethorpes during the game and it being on TV, think my memory must be playing tricks on me.

[we are hibs]

I have a vague memory of being in a pub in Cleethorpes during the game and it being on TV, think my memory must be playing tricks on me.I think BT wanted to show it at the last minute but Hibs refused as they thought it would have a knock on affect on the crowd. Think BT had used their full quota of games that could be shown at Easter Road also.


My recollection was Hibs being hammered for it by journalists and opposition supporters.

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[Since452]

Celtic will win 5-0. Maybe good it's not on TV.

[Centre Hawf]

I think BT wanted to show it at the last minute but Hibs refused as they thought it would have a knock on affect on the crowd. Think BT had used their full quota of games that could be shown at Easter Road also.


My recollection was Hibs being hammered for it by journalists and opposition supporters.

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Yeah I believe the quota was reached and Hibs refused to let them in. It was a Sunday fixture anyway so the kick-off time wasn't changed just for TV that day.

[Nutmegged]

Interesting the likes of Tom English saying Celtic are right here... I remember 10 years ago Hibs were slated for refusing to show our game V Killie last game before play offs.

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I think it was because there was an agreement between BT and the SPFL, not a written one but if there was a relegation decider on the last day then they'd be allowed to broadcast, I think Rod Petrie was a bit miffed that BT hadn't made any requests to the club, and felt we were being insulted by not being consulted, so he waited until the very last minute and told them no.

It was a bit of a PR disaster for the league, channel and we didn't come out of it looking good either, this is a bit different, Celtic haven't opted in to this deal at all, it's not the case that they're just not letting Premier In after they've promoted it.

I do think there should be an obligation from Premier Sport to announce this when the deal was made though, if you're selling a product to people then you should be telling people that the best team aren't included in the deal.

[Nutmegged]

Classic Old Firm narcissism and sense of entitlement.

We steadfastly refuse to inconvenience our own fans and devalue their season tickets by moving home games from favoured 3pm KO’s, but expect everyone else to move theirs when we come calling so our fans can enjoy watching every away game on the TV.

They’re some mob.

They've probably got less 3pm Saturday games than any other club in the League, they're scheduled to play 8 from 19 this season, I don't think protecting one of the few they have left is narcissism or self entitlement, like I said earlier in the thread though, I suppose if the money was better then they might've had a different approach. £75k is chicken feed to a club who have about £80m cash in the bank. That translates into 2.5k tickets at 30 quid a whip, big deal for the other 11 clubs but not them.