Dundee Utd away - build up thread

[GreenCastle]

Here we are again..

No game this weekend but 19th October we travel to Tannidice.

David Gray will have the players for 12 days to work with and improve the team.

Hibs also host an open training session on Monday 14th at Easter Road.

Still only 1 win this season and after the weekend’s home loss we head to Dundee to play a Utd team who won away to St Mirren at the weekend 1-0 and now unbeaten in 2 games.

This will be first time Hibs play Utd since April 2023 when Hibs lost 2-1 at Tannidice - the winning goal was in 90 mins from penalty spot.

Dundee Utd are 4 unbeaten against Hibs.

Hibs last beat Utd in December 2021 - 3-1 away from home.

Dundee Utd have only lost 2 of last 16 home games - Rangers and Airdrie.

Both have played 7 games. Dundee Utd sit in 5th on 12 points and Hibs sit 10th on 5 points.

The next game for Hibs after Utd away is the Derby at Easter Road on Sunday 27th.

Will we see Boyle and Newell ? We lacked pace against Motherwell and Boyle also has several goal contributions which we lacked at the weekend. I think if both players are fit they will come in for Cadden and Campbell.

Hopefully a good Hibs crowd behind the goals for this one. Middle block sold out and side blocks about half left.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/tickets/away-club-online-ticket-hub for tickets

[Hibby70]

Hibs also host an open training session on Monday 10th at Easter Road.

A good tactic to avoid the players getting pelters from the Hibs Kids

[oneone73]

Here we are again..

No game this weekend but 19th October we travel to Tannidice.

David Gray will have the players for 12 days to work with and improve the team.

Hibs also host an open training session on Monday 10th at Easter Road.

Still only 1 win this season and after the weekend’s home loss we head to Dundee to play a Utd team who won away to St Mirren at the weekend 1-0 and now unbeaten in 2 games.

This will be first time Hibs play Utd since April 2023 when Hibs lost 2-1 at Tannidice - the winning goal was in 90 mins from penalty spot.

Dundee Utd are 4 unbeaten against Hibs.

Hibs last beat Utd in December 2021 - 3-1 away from home.

Dundee Utd have only lost 2 of last 16 home games - Rangers and Airdrie.

Both have played 7 games. Dundee Utd sit in 5th on 12 points and Hibs sit 10th on 5 points.

The next game for Hibs after Utd away is the Derby at Easter Road on Sunday 27th.

Will we see Boyle and Newell ? We lacked pace against Motherwell and Boyle also has several goal contributions which we lacked at the weekend. I think if both players are fit they will come in for Cadden and Campbell.

Hopefully a good Hibs crowd behind the goals for this one. Middle block sold out and side blocks about half left.

https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/tickets/away-club-online-ticket-hub for tickets

I think Newell will come in for the suspended Triantis.

[GreenCastle]

I think Newell will come in for the suspended Triantis.

Forgot to mention Triantis is suspended!!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hibs also host an open training session on Monday 10th at Easter Road.



? there's no Monday 10th

well, not until February 2025 anyway :)

[SHODAN]

Really need to get a boost from this game going into the derby. A draw will do.

[Nicho87]

I have the bar set so low set for hibs at the moment

I’d take a draw.

[GreenCastle]

? there's no Monday 10th

well, not until February 2025 anyway :)

Typo - thanks for pointing out.

Monday 14th

[Lago]

I have the bar set so low set for hibs at the moment

I’d take a draw.
I think even that low Bar will be too high.

[S4uzee]

Really need to get a boost from this game going into the derby. A draw will do.

Would it really matter? It is inevitable how the derby will pan out

[Vini1875]

Newell comes back for Triantis. Boyle and Cadden on the right wing with Miller making way. I would also have Rudi on for Campbell. I think Myko needs a partner and unfortunately Josh Campbell seems to have no understanding of what Myko is going to do.

Dundee is good day out for us travelling from Glasgow, a full bus and refreshments on route arranged, the only thing that can F*** it up is anything less than a win. We need to get our season going and a win in Dundee followed by a derby win is just tonic most of us need right now.

[JimBHibees]

Would it really matter? It is inevitable how the derby will pan out

Of course it is

[Tambo]

Need Boyle and Newell back for this one, hate the international breaks.

[He's here!]

I have the bar set so low set for hibs at the moment

I’d take a draw.

Is it low bar to take a draw based on the respective clubs' form?

Defeat is clearly the most likely outcome so a draw would be decent.

[flash]

Is it low bar to take a draw based on the respective clubs' form?

Defeat is clearly the most likely outcome so a draw would be decent.

Take a day off ffs.

[scoopyboy]

Need Boyle and Newell back for this one, hate the international breaks.

I’ve heard Boyle out for a couple of months

[SteveHFC]

I’ve heard Boyle out for a couple of months

That would be a disaster.

[JimBHibees]

I’ve heard Boyle out for a couple of months

Hope not.

[Callum_62]

Didn't Gray say Boyle and Newell were days away rather than weeks?

Mind I was surprised Newell wasn't even on the bench at the weekend

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[BoomtownHibees]

Didn't Gray say Boyle and Newell were days away rather than weeks?

Mind I was surprised Newell wasn't even on the bench at the weekend

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“Days rather than weeks” now seems to be the new “2 weeks away”

[erin go bragh]

I’ve heard Boyle out for a couple of months

No sure what platform it was on but it was Bolye with the caption
guess who's back

[Billy Whizz]

No sure what platform it was on but it was Bolye with the caption
guess who's back
Rachael Boyle last Sunday

[hibsforeurope]

I’ve heard Boyle out for a couple of months

It was just a normal plaster cast he had on on Sunday. that would suggest he's not back training as i'd have thought something more substantial would have been put on the wrist to get him back, hopefully this goes on this week. I also think if there was a chance he would be fit for Dundee he would have been away with Australia.

[Paul1642]

These international breaks along with the empty league cup fixtures are killing me. Whilst fatigue wise we are fortunate compared to some of our opponents, I would really like to be playing more than once a fortnight 😴

I don’t think we can blame the lack of momentum on our poor form, however it possibly isn’t helping.

[erin go bragh]

Rachael Boyle last Sunday

Nah it had a picture of Boyler

[BoomtownHibees]

Nah it had a picture of Boyler

Was it not “Boyler in the building” that Hibs Women tweeted about with Martin sitting in the stand at Meadowbank.

Rachael is also just back after 600 days out

[Springbank]

Looking forward to this game already - my two favourite away trips are always Tannadice & St Mirren

"2-1 Hibs", as the boy from Sky Sports would say

Myko & big Ekpiteta, both from set pieces

[Coco Bryce]

Expecting a goal fest.

Sticking a score on 2-2 :greengrin

[Ardenttwo]

Looking forward to this game already - my two favourite away trips are always Tannadice & St Mirren

"2-1 Hibs", as the boy from Sky Sports would say

Myko & big Ekpiteta, both from set pieces

Hope it’s not standing like Dens. Too old for that now.

[NAE NOOKIE]

We need to get something that's for sure because if we don't we go into a game with a club we've only beaten once in our last 12 attempts on 5 points from a possible 24 after 8 games.

If we end up on 5 points from our first 9 games after the next two fixtures our start to the season will be nothing short of disastrous. We will finish our first round of 11 fixtures away to Ross County ( never easy for us ) and Dundee Utd at home. We won't even have played Aberdeen with our only win being at home to a poor St Johnstone team.

That's the worst case scenario of course, but at this stage it's hard not to look at things that way. To even have a hope of 4th we need at least 2 wins and a draw from our next 4 games ... none of them are against Aberdeen or the uglies and there's no excuse for not getting at least that.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Dundee is always a good day out.

[DIXIHIBS]

Dundee is always a good day out.

First away day this season... looking forward to it.

[Tambo]

A good few days more recovery for Newell, don't see him starting, needs some minutes to be ready for the derby.

Would assume Levitt will be in for this one if Newell's not starting, would leave either Campbell or Rudi for the other spot.

Don't see us going 4-4-2 but could see a 3-5-2 if there is change with both Myko and Gayle starting, which would mean no Hoilett who is the first name on the team sheet at this present time.

[Green-Hibee-7]

Looks about 300 left in the stand behind the goals.

[JimBHibees]

A good few days more recovery for Newell, don't see him starting, needs some minutes to be ready for the derby.

Would assume Levitt will be in for this one if Newell's not starting, would leave either Campbell or Rudi for the other spot.

Don't see us going 4-4-2 but could see a 3-5-2 if there is change with both Myko and Gayle starting, which would mean no Hoilett who is the first name on the team sheet at this present time.

Could play Hoilett attacking midfield in 352

[nickwhibs]

Dundee is always a good day out.

Agreed. Generally my favourite away trip to Tannadice (Dens good too). Looking forward to the trip up next week

[Tambo]

Could play Hoilett attacking midfield in 352

Not somewhere he's played before I don't think, probably could do a good job attacking wise in the number 10 role.

[Cooshed Kid]

I really hope we'll see Junior, Myko and Gayle all on from the start. We need to put the ball in the opposition net frequently and our record suggests that we are poor at that when we play with a solo striker.

[erin go bragh]

I really hope we'll see Junior, Myko and Gayle all on from the start. We need to put the ball in the opposition net frequently and our record suggests that we are poor at that when we play with a solo striker.

This as Myko is struggling playing the lone striker role, similar to Doidge but as soon as May took temporary charge and played Doidge in a two, bang the goals starting flowing.

[Saint Hibee]

Haven't been to Tannadice for ages. What pubs do Hibs fans usually go to before the game?

[Hibees1973]

Pressure increasing each week on Gray.

He got a very easy time of it in the defeat against Motherwell at home. The away support tend to be less charitable.

5 points in 21 got previous managers sacked.

Has to win this going into the derby, when it could get toxic for Ian Gordon & Kensell.

[Hiber-nation]

Pressure increasing each week on Gray.

He got a very easy time of it in the defeat against Motherwell at home. The away support tend to be less charitable.

5 points in 21 got previous managers sacked.

Has to win this going into the derby, when it could get toxic for Ian Gordon & Kensell.

The sun is out, it's cold but a cracking day. At least it was until I read this pish. Relentless.

[flash]

The sun is out, it's cold but a cracking day. At least it was until I read this pish. Relentless.

Sadly some people are utterly determined that he be under pressure.

[Saint Hibee]

All I asked was what pub to go to!

[Baldy Foghorn]

Sadly some people are utterly determined that he be under pressure.

I so want SDG to succeed and hope he is given time. All the chat about pressure on him is draining

[Green-Hibee-7]

c120 tickets left in the stand behind the goal. I’d expect they will go during the week. Not sure if DU will open up the stand at the side of the pitch for those who effectively want to PATG. Scottish football being Scottish football, will probably mean they will make sure they do everything in their power to make it difficult/stop people attending so I have my doubts.

[DIXIHIBS]

Haven't been to Tannadice for ages. What pubs do Hibs fans usually go to before the game?

Trades bar in town centre then up to Haley's near the ground for us.

[andrew70]

Pressure increasing each week on Gray.

He got a very easy time of it in the defeat against Motherwell at home. The away support tend to be less charitable.

5 points in 21 got previous managers sacked.

Has to win this going into the derby, when it could get toxic for Ian Gordon & Kensell.

Wonderful reading on a Sunday afternoon. 🙄

The pressure on Gray will all be from himself whilst the toxicity towards Gordon and Kensell, give me a break.

We are working our way toward our common goal, any toxicity would be poorly aimed and timed imo.

We need unity but unfortunately there’s always the loud minority.

A word of warning though, look at the candidates for the Hearts job, not much out there that’s interested in jobs like ours and I take great note in that given I was one who didn’t want Gray in the first place.

Let’s back the board, back the manager and back the team. We are Hibernian. 🇳🇬

[andrew70]

c120 tickets left in the stand behind the goal. I’d expect they will go during the week. Not sure if DU will open up the stand at the side of the pitch for those who effectively want to PATG. Scottish football being Scottish football, will probably mean they will make sure they do everything in their power to make it difficult/stop people attending so I have my doubts.

Another great turnout.

The last part frustrates the hell out of me. We should be actively encouraging supporters to come out and support all teams.

Hibs are just as bad unfortunately.

[Billy Whizz]

c120 tickets left in the stand behind the goal. I’d expect they will go during the week. Not sure if DU will open up the stand at the side of the pitch for those who effectively want to PATG. Scottish football being Scottish football, will probably mean they will make sure they do everything in their power to make it difficult/stop people attending so I have my doubts.
If demand is there, they’ll open up the Fair play stand for Hibs

[JimBHibees]

Pressure increasing each week on Gray.

He got a very easy time of it in the defeat against Motherwell at home. The away support tend to be less charitable.

5 points in 21 got previous managers sacked.

Has to win this going into the derby, when it could get toxic for Ian Gordon & Kensell.

Laughable

[B.H.F.C]

I so want SDG to succeed and hope he is given time. All the chat about pressure on him is draining

There’s only one way he gets time and he’ll know that himself.

Feel like we go in to every game desperate for a win at the moment, Saturday is no different. I don’t think the performances have been terrible at the moment but we need to get points on the board quickly.

[erin go bragh]

Looking forward to this game, hopefully a great 3pts to set us up nicely for the derby 🤞

[bod]

Where’s the best place to park the car ? Only ever been there by supporters bus

[B.H.F.C]

56 tickets left behind the goals. Another good away support, imagine if we were actually any good!

Would expect the more seats to be made available early in the week. Kind of annoying as I’d much rather be in the side stand than behind the goal. Wonder if they might just open the lower section initially.

[Forza Fred]

I wonder if Miller is rested on the bench after travelling back from Japan?

[Jones28]

Sadly some people are utterly determined that he be under pressure.

The poster in question is a great one for a campaign of negativity, in fact they seem to wallow in it.

[Dashing Bob S]

It’s strange how we have such a noisy committed and growing away support when the last five years have been pretty much all about decline and stagnation on the field.

Personally i have only started going to away games recently after a gap of many years, and (OF/Tynecastle aside) I much prefer them to the experience at ER. My reasons:

- day out in different surroundings, enjoying the company of chums
- with fans whose main agenda is to support their team and not advertise: alcoholism/coke addiction/that they aren’t getting laid/that they have a bad relationship/type 2 diabetes/depression etc
- having a drink with (proper) Scottish football supporters of other clubs (when you avoid the near-stadium rat traps).

Of course this is all subjective and relates to middle aged status. In my teens/early twenties away days would be largely about mischief with chums, some of whom now, from a position of morbid obesity, enjoy criticizing ultras for tamer versions of the same behavior.

[flash]

It’s strange how we have such a noisy committed and growing away support when the last five years have been pretty much all about decline and stagnation on the field.

Personally i have only started going to away games recently after a gap of many years, and (OF/Tynecastle aside) I much prefer them to the experience at ER. My reasons:

- day out in different surroundings, enjoying the company of chums
- with fans whose main agenda is to support their team and not advertise: alcoholism/coke addiction/that they aren’t getting laid/that they have a bad relationship/type 2 diabetes/depression etc
- having a drink with (proper) Scottish football supporters of other clubs (when you avoid the near-stadium rat traps).

Of course this is all subjective and relates to middle aged status. In my teens/early twenties away days would be largely about mischief with chums, some of whom now, from a position of morbid obesity, enjoy criticizing ultras for tamer versions of the same behavior.

Top trolling.

[Carheenlea]

It’s strange how we have such a noisy committed and growing away support when the last five years have been pretty much all about decline and stagnation on the field.

Personally i have only started going to away games recently after a gap of many years, and (OF/Tynecastle aside) I much prefer them to the experience at ER. My reasons:

- day out in different surroundings, enjoying the company of chums
- with fans whose main agenda is to support their team and not advertise: alcoholism/coke addiction/that they aren’t getting laid/that they have a bad relationship/type 2 diabetes/depression etc
- having a drink with (proper) Scottish football supporters of other clubs (when you avoid the near-stadium rat traps).

Of course this is all subjective and relates to middle aged status. In my teens/early twenties away days would be largely about mischief with chums, some of whom now, from a position of morbid obesity, enjoy criticizing ultras for tamer versions of the same behavior.

:hilarious

[superfurryhibby]

Top trolling.

Strange response :confused:

[GreenCastle]

Newell training looking at the open training session pictures.

JDH also training.

Anyone who was at the session able to update how it went ?

[McGruber]

Newell training looking at the open training session pictures.

JDH also training.

Anyone who was at the session able to update how it went ?

JDH has been training and 'back on grass' for ages. Never seems to get any further than that.

[Hibernian Verse]

Pressure increasing each week on Gray.

He got a very easy time of it in the defeat against Motherwell at home. The away support tend to be less charitable.

5 points in 21 got previous managers sacked.

Has to win this going into the derby, when it could get toxic for Ian Gordon & Kensell.

Impressive stuff given we weren't even playing this weekend past.

[PHeffernan]

JDH has been training and 'back on grass' for ages. Never seems to get any further than that.

Think he has been fit for a while but along with Kenneh was told to find another club permanently or on loan as he wouldn't be playing another game for Hibs as Malky tried to lever out players in the summer to cut the wage bill.
Was Kenneh at the training session today?

[Springbank]

Wonderful reading on a Sunday afternoon. 🙄

The pressure on Gray will all be from himself whilst the toxicity towards Gordon and Kensell, give me a break.

We are working our way toward our common goal, any toxicity would be poorly aimed and timed imo.

We need unity but unfortunately there’s always the loud minority.

A word of warning though, look at the candidates for the Hearts job, not much out there that’s interested in jobs like ours and I take great note in that given I was one who didn’t want Gray in the first place.

Let’s back the board, back the manager and back the team. We are Hibernian. 🇳🇬

Well said - win the next couple of games and the winter ahead will look a lot more enjoyable:flag:

[B.H.F.C]

A hundred or so restricted view tickets released behind the goals which, otherwise, is all but sold out. Not like there’s a big empty stand with a decent view sitting empty at the side or anything….

[Hiber-nation]

A hundred or so restricted view tickets released behind the goals which, otherwise, is all but sold out. Not like there’s a big empty stand with a decent view sitting empty at the side or anything….

What are they up to with this? Glad we've got behind the goal mind you, last time I was there was Franck Sauzee's birthday, 1-0 Tam McManus and an Allan Combe meltdown.

[B.H.F.C]

What are they up to with this? Glad we've got behind the goal mind you, last time I was there was Franck Sauzee's birthday, 1-0 Tam McManus and an Allan Combe meltdown.

Just the usual Scottish football thing where they find any small way they can to discourage folk from going.

Great effort from the Hibs support again though, would be surprised it’ll they don’t end up opening extra seats and we fill a bit more.

[bod]

What are they up to with this? Glad we've got behind the goal mind you, last time I was there was Franck Sauzee's birthday, 1-0 Tam McManus and an Allan Combe meltdown.

Was that the pole dance celebration ?

[JimBHibees]

Was that the pole dance celebration ?

Think that was another game. Can remember Tam jumping into the terracing behind the goal injury time winner. :greengrin

[Hiber-nation]

Think that was another game. Can remember Tam jumping into the terracing behind the goal injury time winner. :greengrin

Yeah the pole dance game was in 2003 I think, last minute pen. The game I was referring to was the week after the 6-2.

[Green-Hibee-7]

If demand is there, they’ll open up the Fair play stand for Hibs

Yet tickets that they deemed unfit for initial sale because of their restricted view are the only ones on sale at the moment.

To me that’s a prime example of discouraging people to go. £27 for a view you’re unlikely to see much.

If they opened the lower section of the FP Stand where people had more choice of an unrestricted view or seats that they can sit together in groups now ahead of time, I have no doubt would encourage more people to go. Typically Scottish football would rather shoot itself in the foot.

[percy veer]

I have an adult and an under 12 ticket I can't use now if anyone's wanting the pair for £25 message me and sort something out.

[rossyboy]

Stand now open

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[Garymcl]

Good news take it will be the lower tier along the touchline quite like it in there always a good atmosphere ,let’s snap these tickets up and add to the already impressive travelling support ggtth :flag:

[B.H.F.C]

Good news take it will be the lower tier along the touchline quite like it in there always a good atmosphere ,let’s snap these tickets up and add to the already impressive travelling support ggtth :flag:

Nope, upper open. Section closest to the middle.

[madhibby]

Nope, upper open. Section closest to the middle.


But good viewing seats - I held off buying hoping the down the side stand would be offered and its worked out fine for me - already around 50 seats sold so a fair few Hibbies seemed to think same as me.

[B.H.F.C]

But good viewing seats - I held off buying hoping the down the side stand would be offered and its worked out fine for me - already around 50 seats sold so a fair few Hibbies seemed to think same as me.

Reckon we’ll sell a good few in there, especially now the international games are out the way and as folk start looking forward to it.

[SHODAN]

Away end sold out, the team really do not deserve these fans.

[Hiber-nation]

Hibs email header is Dundee Utd game sold out.

It's only in the small print do you find out there's an additional allocation.

Heading should be Additional allocation now on sale you'd think...

[Hibby70]

Hibs email header is Dundee Utd game sold out.

It's only in the small print do you find out there's an additional allocation.

Heading should be Additional allocation now on sale you'd think...

Just came on to say the same thing. Very misleading.

[Lewiehas2]

I have an adult and an under 12 ticket I can't use now if anyone's wanting the pair for £25 message me and sort something out.

Are these tickets still available? I'd be interested in the adult, but happy to pay full £25

[Ardenttwo]

I have an adult and an under 12 ticket I can't use now if anyone's wanting the pair for £25 message me and sort something out.


I have two tickets that I will not be using. For a better view sit in WS-L-58 and WS-L-57.

[Nicho87]

Had no intentions of going but we got two today. 3 points would be splendid prep for data fc

[GreenCastle]

With the international break quite a few players must have been missing from training and also questionable for the weekend with travel and recovery - mainly Kwon and Miller who have been other side of the world.

[B.H.F.C]

With the international break quite a few players must have been missing from training and also questionable for the weekend with travel and recovery - mainly Kwon and Miller who have been other side of the world.

Kwon never played a minute and should be back by now I’d think. Miller should have taken some confidence from how he’s done in the two games. Again game was good yesterday so should hopefully be sufficient recovery time.

Need everyone back in and doing their bit this weekend. Feel like I say every week we need a win to get our season going. Needs to happen, can’t just keep saying the same thing.

[GreenCastle]

Kwon never played a minute and should be back by now I’d think. Miller should have taken some confidence from how he’s done in the two games. Again game was good yesterday so should hopefully be sufficient recovery time.

Need everyone back in and doing their bit this weekend. Feel like I say every week we need a win to get our season going. Needs to happen, can’t just keep saying the same thing.

Agreed and fair points.

Think we are all desperate for a win and some momentum / run of wins.

Like the last game against Motherwell feels first goal will be so important.

[wookie70]

JDH has been training and 'back on grass' for ages. Never seems to get any further than that. He may have been on the grass and training but not seen him when I have been down there and teh last pic I can see is Aug 1. He was at the Open training though so hopefully fit enough to train with the group now.

[He's here!]

Yeah the pole dance game was in 2003 I think, last minute pen. The game I was referring to was the week after the 6-2.

From memory the game after 6-2 was the Zitelli overhead winner at Dens. Might be wrong tho.

[marinello59]

From memory the game after 6-2 was the Zitelli overhead winner at Dens game. Might be wrong tho.

My memory is the next game was at Tannadice, Mixu in particular got a huge reception from us.

Edit. Our next game after Tannadice was against Dundee.

[Glory Lurker]

That Tannadice win wasn't too impressive, given how brutal United were at the time. I told myself it was a "champions victory". Imagine that now!

[Nicho87]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_Hibernian_F.C._season

I just had a look at the results as I was 14 at that time and memory ain’t the best for results

By crikey what a run we went on.

Car crashed in March. But what a start to the season.

[B.H.F.C]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_Hibernian_F.C._season

I just had a look at the results as I was 14 at that time and memory ain’t the best for results

By crikey what a run we went on.

Car crashed in March. But what a start to the season.

Just had a look and we took 54 points before the winter break! Most seasons we struggle to get that over the course of a full season!

In typical Hibs fashion, we only managed to take 12 points after it!

[Nicho87]

You wonder what could have been if McLeish had gave agathe a proper contract

He was literally unplayable is the home games

Remember listening to hearts game match day one on the radio and the commentators couldn’t believe he’d missed an open goal.

[Glory Lurker]

You wonder what could have been if McLeish had gave agathe a proper contract

He was literally unplayable is the home games

Remember listening to hearts game match day one on the radio and the commentators couldn’t believe he’d missed an open goal.

It was horrendous. Another Hibs player ruined at Celtc though.

[Callum_62]

It was horrendous. Another Hibs player ruined at Celtc though.Ruined? Wasn't he terrific for Celtic for the most part?

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[marinello59]

It was horrendous. Another Hibs player ruined at Celtc though.

He wasn’t ruined . Had a decent time with them.

[Tambo]

Right Hibs, time to get some points on the board starting on Saturday, another international break for SDG to spend with the players but we need to do it on the pitch.

Expect a difficult game, one which we should be looking for 3 points, 1 will only be ok if we get the 3 the week after.

I'm sure we will get team news over the next couple of days, with Triantis not available it will be interesting to see the team, don't think Newell will start so I would like to see Rudi, think we will see Campbell in some position.

Bursik

Miller
Ekpiteta
O'Hora
Obita

NMW
Kwon
Rudi

Youan
Myko
Hoilett


Bursik

Miller
Ekpiteta
O'Hora

Cadden
NMW
Kwon
Rudi/Levitt/Hoilett
Obita

Myko
Gayle

[B.H.F.C]

Right Hibs, time to get some points on the board starting on Saturday, another international break for SDG to spend with the players but we need to do it on the pitch.

Expect a difficult game, one which we should be looking for 3 points, 1 will only be ok if we get the 3 the week after.

I'm sure we will get team news over the next couple of days, with Triantis not available it will be interesting to see the team, don't think Newell will start so I would like to see Rudi, think we will see Campbell in some position.

Bursik

Miller
Ekpiteta
O'Hora
Obita

NMW
Kwon
Rudi

Youan
Myko
Hoilett


Bursik

Miller
Ekpiteta
O'Hora

Cadden
NMW
Kwon
Rudi/Levitt/Hoilett
Obita

Myko
Gayle

Reckon Newell will be back in the team, in for Triantis. There is no way Campbell can play after his performance against Motherwell. That’s a real problem position for us IMO, I don’t know who we play there to link middle to front.

Saw someone mention Boyle might be out for a bit but saw him in the video of the open training session so hopefully he’s back and in the team.

[Unseen work]

We need to win on Saturday.

Ordinarily a draw away at Tannadice might seem a not bad result, but we really need to start building a bit of momentum and getting points on the table

………..……………Bursik…………

Miller…..Ekpiteta…..O’Hora….Obita..

….………..Kwon……….Newell…..

Boyle…………….Hoilett……….Youan…..

………………………..Myk……..


No idea if Hoilett has played as a 10 before however he has more than enough ability to imo and we need to get our best and biggest goal threats on the pitch.

If Boyle is still out then ‘Youan…..Rudi….Hoilett’

[Unseen work]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000%E2%80%9301_Hibernian_F.C._season

I just had a look at the results as I was 14 at that time and memory ain’t the best for results

By crikey what a run we went on.

Car crashed in March. But what a start to the season.

I can’t even comprehend the feeling of us beating rangers 1-0 and then beating hearts 6-2 a week later now a days.

Then to go away to both Dundee teams and win? Nah

[Springbank]

I like NMW but he's got a lot of rough edges to smooth out. He's also had a lot of time & travel away this week. a supersub at moment I think.

We have height in most of the team & I reckon triantis will be replaced by Newell if fit or Campbell if not, with Rudi then coming in at 10 either way

[JimBHibees]

I like NMW but he's got a lot of rough edges to smooth out. He's also had a lot of time & travel away this week. a supersub at moment I think.

We have height in most of the team & I reckon triantis will be replaced by Newell if fit or Campbell if not, with Rudi then coming in at 10 either way

Been surprised how poor nww has looked this season expected him to be a bit more effective

[EGL2000]

Hoping to be proved wrong but really can't see us picking anything up. They have been very good this season by all accounts and only rangers have narrowly beat them.

[JimBHibees]

Hoping to be proved wrong but really can't see us picking anything up. They have been very good this season by all accounts and only rangers have narrowly beat them.

I think we beat them. Think we are simply better. Will be tough.

[He's here!]

I can’t even comprehend the feeling of us beating rangers 1-0 and then beating hearts 6-2 a week later now a days.

Then to go away to both Dundee teams and win? Nah

We had players in that team with not only terrific playing ability but a winning mentality. The sort who didn't see why winning a derby would do. Being able to follow it up with another win, and another, was what mattered.

[He's here!]

I think we beat them. Think we are simply better. Will be tough.

Hope you're right but nothing so far from this season's results indicates we're better than them. I can see us losing 3-0.

[Mcbizz1998]

I think we beat them. Think we are simply better. Will be tough.

Better at what exactly?

[Saint Hibee]

We need to win on Saturday.

Ordinarily a draw away at Tannadice might seem a not bad result, but we really need to start building a bit of momentum and getting points on the table

………..……………Bursik…………

Miller…..Ekpiteta…..O’Hora….Obita..

….………..Kwon……….Newell…..

Boyle…………….Hoilett……….Youan…..

………………………..Myk……..


No idea if Hoilett has played as a 10 before however he has more than enough ability to imo and we need to get our best and biggest goal threats on the pitch.

If Boyle is still out then ‘Youan…..Rudi….Hoilett’

I like this team, but suspect Gray might not start Youan (although I would).

[flash]

Better at what exactly?

Football presumably.

[Centre Hawf]

Been surprised how poor nww has looked this season expected him to be a bit more effective

After an initial few games where he looked good I've found myself not really caring to see him play the longer it goes on. Just not really a type of midfield that's had any real impact on a game for us at all.

[sauzee1989]

After an initial few games where he looked good I've found myself not really caring to see him play the longer it goes on. Just not really a type of midfield that's had any real impact on a game for us at all.

He doesn’t offer much at all in games other than energy to get around the park without any real Quailty.

[Lago]

Hoping to be proved wrong but really can't see us picking anything up. They have been very good this season by all accounts and only rangers have narrowly beat them.
I agree ,there's nothing to chose between the 2 teams and they have home advantage, a draw would be considered a success

[HibbyAndy]

From memory the game after 6-2 was the Zitelli overhead winner at Dens. Might be wrong tho.

Remember remember the 5th November for Zitelli

[Brightside]

We need to win on Saturday.

Ordinarily a draw away at Tannadice might seem a not bad result, but we really need to start building a bit of momentum and getting points on the table

………..……………Bursik…………

Miller…..Ekpiteta…..O’Hora….Obita..

….………..Kwon……….Newell…..

Boyle…………….Hoilett……….Youan…..

………………………..Myk……..


No idea if Hoilett has played as a 10 before however he has more than enough ability to imo and we need to get our best and biggest goal threats on the pitch.

If Boyle is still out then ‘Youan…..Rudi….Hoilett’

I dont mind that - I just dont want both Newell and Kwon sitting deeper, just one at a time to allow Hoilett to be more attacking. We need to be getting more people in the box when we attack. I imagine Miller might drop out with all his travel and Cadden will start.

[Cabbage-Patch]

Heading up with a pal on Saturday. 1st time up to Dundee for a while. Anyone recommend any decent pubs in the city centre or up near Tannadice? Previously went to the Ambassador but that seems to where the wee ultras tend to congregate. Just looking for a few quiet pints before the game tbh

[Chorley Hibee]

We had players in that team with not only terrific playing ability but a winning mentality. The sort who didn't see why winning a derby would do. Being able to follow it up with another win, and another, was what mattered.

Lost only 3 of our first 29 league games that season.

Could only dream of that now.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Heading up with a pal on Saturday. 1st time up to Dundee for a while. Anyone recommend any decent pubs in the city centre or up near Tannadice? Previously went to the Ambassador but that seems to where the wee ultras tend to congregate. Just looking for a few quiet pints before the game tbh

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?368304-lunch-and-parking-in-Dundee

[Nicho87]

I’d predict

Bursik

Cadden Marv Ohora Obita

Kwon Newell

Youan Rudi Hoillet

Myk

Think Boyle might be there but bench at best

Campbell shouldn’t be anywhere near the first eleven

[Tambo]

Reckon Newell will be back in the team, in for Triantis. There is no way Campbell can play after his performance against Motherwell. That’s a real problem position for us IMO, I don’t know who we play there to link middle to front.

Saw someone mention Boyle might be out for a bit but saw him in the video of the open training session so hopefully he’s back and in the team.

I would like Newell to start, 3 games missed SDG might think different, would then leave us with either Campbell/Levitt/NMW as the other starter next to Kwon.

Having both Newell and Boyle will be great, would expect both to get minutes in the legs before the derby.

[HH81]

Thankfully Hibs games are back this weekend.

Let's win.

[CB_NO3]

Anyone know if you can buy under 12 tickets for the side stand? £18 for a 5 year old seems a tad steep!

[He's here!]

Lost only 3 of our first 29 league games that season.

Could only dream of that now.

Other teams were a bit scared of us. You could see I when Latapy got the ball or when Sauzee sized up a free kick. We also had the likes of Laursen, Jack and Mixu, who all had a very physical presence. John O'Neil was also an excellent, underrated player in that team.

We carry zero 'fear factor' these days.

[B.H.F.C]

Anyone know if you can buy under 12 tickets for the side stand? £18 for a 5 year old seems a tad steep!

Doesn’t look like it. Adult tickets also a couple of quid dearer than behind the goals.

Wonder if that was part of the reason for us getting/taking behind the goals first.

[Del Boy]

Doesn’t look like it. Adult tickets also a couple of quid dearer than behind the goals.

Wonder if that was part of the reason for us getting/taking behind the goals first.

Yeah looks the same for home fans, top tier is £2 more expensive and no under 12 discounts.

[erin go bragh]

Anyone know if you can buy under 12 tickets for the side stand? £18 for a 5 year old seems a tad steep!

Boy on thread was selling an adult and child ticket for £25

[B.H.F.C]

Looking forward to tomorrow. Day out, big Hibs crowd going up. Really need the team to do their bit and get a result, we need one so badly.

[EGL2000]

Doesn’t look like it. Adult tickets also a couple of quid dearer than behind the goals.

Wonder if that was part of the reason for us getting/taking behind the goals first.

I was wondering why we were behind the goals? Every time I have been we have been in the side stand. Does also look like United fans have sold out pretty much, so they might be in some of the sections we used to get on the far right of the side stand.

[Del Boy]

I was wondering why we were behind the goals? Every time I have been we have been in the side stand. Does also look like United fans have sold out pretty much, so they might be in some of the sections we used to get on the far right of the side stand.

Yeah looks like Utd have sold out the main stand at the side and behind the goals bar a few individual seats. Home tickets are being sold in the same stand that Hibs fans are now buying tickets for. Should be a decent crowd tomorrow

[Unseen work]

Had a surge of confidence about this game the last 12 hours.

We’re going on win convincingly, everything is finally going to click

3-0 to the good guys. We’ll go 1-0 up early, a penalty just before half time and then a third around 55 minutes to kill it off

It’s the hope that kills you…

[Mcbizz1998]

Football presumably.

Presumably that’s what was meant.

Not true mind you.

[Donegal Hibby]

Press conference…
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2024/october/18/watch--dundee--h--live-press-conference/

[Saint Hibee]

Trades bar in town centre then up to Haley's near the ground for us.

Is Halley's okay with Hibs fans wearing colours?

[flash]

Presumably that’s what was meant.

Not true mind you.

We will find out tomorrow.

[flash]

Boyle and Newell both fit so just Bowie and Triantis missing.

[Blaster]

Boyle and Newell both fit so just Bowie and Triantis missing.

I think there’s more chance of Newell playing than Boyle. Believe Boyle has only just returned to training

[B.H.F.C]

I think there’s more chance of Newell playing than Boyle. Believe Boyle has only just returned to training

Big decisions for Gray to make tomorrow.

If Boyle isn’t deemed fit enough to start he just can’t start Cadden there again.

Newell will come in for Triantis but that then leaves the other midfield position up for grabs because there is no way he can continue with Josh Campbell after the Motherwell game.

Needs to get the team right tomorrow.

[flash]

Big decisions for Gray to make tomorrow.

If Boyle isn’t deemed fit enough to start he just can’t start Cadden there again.

Newell will come in for Triantis but that then leaves the other midfield position up for grabs because there is no way he can continue with Josh Campbell after the Motherwell game.

Needs to get the team right tomorrow.

Indeed. Could really do with a fully focused Elie tomorrow.

[B.H.F.C]

Indeed. Could really do with a fully focused Elie tomorrow.

Big challenge to for Gray to get him back involved as a proper option. Since he came back from injury he’s done nothing more than make the numbers up. If we can start getting proper minutes and performances out of him then it would be a big improvement on playing the Cadden brothers or bringing McKirdy on.

[1875M]

Cannot afford to get beat, especially before a derby. If we lose the next 2 games, that’s not good enough. That would be 5 points out of 9 games with only Hearts and St J below us who will probably both benefit from new manager bounces, leaving us bottom. I love Gray but questions should be asked if that’s the case.

[Callum_62]

Cannot afford to get beat, especially before a derby. If we lose the next 2 games, that’s not good enough. That would be 5 points out of 9 games with only Hearts and St J below us who will probably both benefit from new manager bounces, leaving us bottom. I love Gray but questions should be asked if that’s the case.Lose the next 2 there's no guarantee they will both still be below us

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[DIXIHIBS]

Is Halley's okay with Hibs fans wearing colours?

Aye it's fine.

[Basildon Hibs]

Lose the next 2 there's no guarantee they will both still be below us

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Spot on. Jacket will be on shoogly peg..

[1875M]

Lose the next 2 there's no guarantee they will both still be below us

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Exactly. Dundee United away is a tricky fixture at the best of times and they’re on a decent run of form and well the derby isn’t exactly our strongpoint. We could realistically be bottom of the league after 9 games.

[Cod Boy]

I see Nicky Cadden is out injured we certainly attract them

[Donegal Hibby]

Another way of looking at it is if we go to Tannadice and put in a performance like we did at ibrox we could also come away with a positive result which would set us up nicely for the derby at ER .. :aok:

[B.H.F.C]

I see Nicky Cadden is out injured we certainly attract them

Found us giving him a three year deal odd at the time, especially as he was a free agent. Not seen anything to make me think anything different yet. Even if he’s fit I can’t see him being any more than a squad player.

[GreenCastle]

Another way of looking at it is if we go to Tannadice and put in a performance like we did at ibrox we could also come away with a positive result which would set us up nicely for the derby at ER .. :aok:

I think fans just want a win tomorrow.

No one cares if we play well right now it’s about points. Playing silky attractive football can happen in a few months.

This is a really tough game - a win would be a massive boost.

Head says draw or loss but we desperately need a win.

We have only won 1 away league game this year (correct me if I’m wrong) against St J away in April-3v1.

Last one before that was in December 2023 - simply not good enough.

[B.H.F.C]

I think fans just want a win tomorrow.

No one cares if we play well right now it’s about points. Playing silky attractive football can happen in a few months.

This is a really tough game - a win would be a massive boost.

Head says draw or loss but we desperately need a win.

We have only won 1 away league game this year (correct me if I’m wrong) against St J away in April-3v1.

Last one before that was in December 2023 - simply not good enough.

It’s at the point now where we just need to start winning games semi regularly again. We’ve won 6 of our last 28 games in the league. It’s not just been a bad few weeks or whatever, we’ve been poor for a considerable period of time.

It’s getting to the point where it’ll be more than just a poor or slow start to the season if we don’t start putting points on the board, we’ll find ourselves in trouble. I don’t think the performances have been terrible of late. Not brilliant but I’ve seen a lot worse when we’ve been on poor runs. We’ve got the majority of the squad available, you’ll always have the odd one or two missing, so there can’t really be any excuses. We just need to win some games in the next few weeks, whatever way we can.

[S4uzee]

Found us giving him a three year deal odd at the time, especially as he was a free agent. Not seen anything to make me think anything different yet. Even if he’s fit I can’t see him being any more than a squad player.

Same. Clearly have learnt our lesson of giving out long contracts

[Callum_62]

We need squad players though

I'm sure once N Cadden is fully up to speed he has enough about him to be a good solid player for us

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[Donegal Hibby]

I think fans just want a win tomorrow.

No one cares if we play well right now it’s about points. Playing silky attractive football can happen in a few months.

This is a really tough game - a win would be a massive boost.

Head says draw or loss but we desperately need a win.

We have only won 1 away league game this year (correct me if I’m wrong) against St J away in April-3v1.

Last one before that was in December 2023 - simply not good enough.

Of course the result is the main one though putting in a good performance goes along way in achieving that .. it’s a tough game which it will be for them to though .

I’m not sure but isn’t our record against Dundee Utd not fairly decent ? It could go anyway in truth though if as I said we play like we did at ibrox or show the same fight as we did against Killie away I’m hopeful we will get a decent result there…

https://youtu.be/GS1Sa88B0K8?si=62jJ-zGbBkCk_UfR

[Lago]

Big challenge to for Gray to get him back involved as a proper option. Since he came back from injury he’s done nothing more than make the numbers up. If we can start getting proper minutes and performances out of him then it would be a big improvement on playing the Cadden brothers or bringing McKirdy on.
I think the only thing he's focused on is the January transfer window.

[B.H.F.C]

I think the only thing he's focused on is the January transfer window.

In which case, he’ll need to start contributing again.

[California-Hibs]

Really hope we start Dwight Gale 🤞

[Paulie Walnuts]

Massive game tomorrow.

We’ve got little excuse for where we find ourselves. We’ve not been particularly hard done by over the piece in terms of injuries, decisions etc. We’ve simply not been good enough.

That needs to change, and it needs to change tomorrow. If we lose tomorrow, I fear for us this season.

[Dashing Bob S]

Massive game tomorrow.

We’ve got little excuse for where we find ourselves. We’ve not been particularly hard done by over the piece in terms of injuries, decisions etc. We’ve simply not been good enough.

That needs to change, and it needs to change tomorrow. If we lose tomorrow, I fear for us this season.

Agreed. Last season we were undoubtedly hard done by, not this season. It's time to stop with the whinging and start winning some points.

[Ozzy1875]

Anyone have a spare ticket available for Carling stand (behind the goals) for tomorrow? I know they’re still on sale for the side stand but mates are behind the goals. Cheers!

[Hibees1973]

Had a surge of confidence about this game the last 12 hours.

We’re going on win convincingly, everything is finally going to click

3-0 to the good guys. We’ll go 1-0 up early, a penalty just before half time and then a third around 55 minutes to kill it off

It’s the hope that kills you…

I'll have what he's having.

[SteveHFC]

Really hope we start Dwight Gale 🤞

Would like to see Gayle and Mykola upfront together.

[CB_NO3]

Boy on thread was selling an adult and child ticket for £25

Aye a PM'd him but no reply, so side stand it is :aok:

[Hibees1973]

Naive, poor defending throughout the whole of the season so far has put us in the position we are in.

Gray pointed a lack of professionalism at some individuals last time out. That second goal we lost against Motherwell really worried me.

Are some players just making individual errors or are they p*sh.

Time for a solid, error free display and three points.

[Power]

✳️ Give plenty time travelling to game tomorrow, roadworks on the A90 outside Dundee
✳️ Parking restrictions around the stadium
✳️ Supporter buses will be parked on Neish Street
✳️ All catering kiosks are contactless
✳️ Turnstiles open an hour before KO, 4 for shed end behind the goals and 2 in the Fair Play stand upper

[Del Boy]

✳️ Give plenty time travelling to game tomorrow, roadworks on the A90 outside Dundee
✳️ Parking restrictions around the stadium
✳️ Supporter buses will be parked on Neish Street
✳️ All catering kiosks are contactless
✳️ Turnstiles open an hour before KO, 4 for shed end behind the goals and 2 in the Fair Play stand upper

Still plenty tickets in fair play stand for anyone who decides to go last minute..

[Cabbage-Patch]

I’d predict

Bursik

Cadden Marv Ohora Obita

Kwon Newell

Youan Rudi Hoillet

Myk

Think Boyle might be there but bench at best

Campbell shouldn’t be anywhere near the first eleven

Think Myk needs dropped tbh. I would start Gayle if he's fit

[Donegal Hibby]

Think Myk needs dropped tbh. I would start Gayle if he's fit

I’d be surprised if Myko was dropped considering Dundee Utd have big strong defenders….might need Myko’s physical presence for this one .

[JimBHibees]

Think Myk needs dropped tbh. I would start Gayle if he's fit

No way he needs dropped at all

[MWHIBBIES]

Naive, poor defending throughout the whole of the season so far has put us in the position we are in.

Gray pointed a lack of professionalism at some individuals last time out. That second goal we lost against Motherwell really worried me.

Are some players just making individual errors or are they p*sh.

Time for a solid, error free display and three points.
Poor attacking just as much to blame, if not more.

[B.H.F.C]

No way he needs dropped at all

I’d stick with him tomorrow but he does need to do more.

If he gets a chance tomorrow like he’s had in the last couple of games he needs to put it away. He’s paid to put the ball in the net and not done that enough so far, but I think he’ll play tomorrow.

[CB Hibs 68]

Anyone have a spare ticket available for Carling stand (behind the goals) for tomorrow? I know they’re still on sale for the side stand but mates are behind the goals. Cheers!

Here’s a thought.Meet your pals before the game .Buy a ticket for where you can .Watch what happens in the 90 minutes .Catch up with your pals afterwards and you and your mates can have a post match blether .

[hibbie02]

Been a long time since I’ve bee up to Dundee for a game. I’m sure there was an old church called Gabriel’s or something. Is it still going?


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[supershotmo]

Still plenty tickets in fair play stand for anyone who decides to go last minute..

46 quid for me and a 12 year old. Don't think I will bother. Prices away from home are getting out of order.

[Tambo]

Junior to put on another show tomorrow, just need a couple other players to show quality.

Got to be starting Youan over Cadden if we're sticking to the shape of the team, will he play well? That's up to Youan to start performing and trying to get back into the team.

Just good to have Hibs back and hopefully ruin most of our weekends.

[California-Hibs]

I have Iredale, Gayle, Youan, Newell, Boyle, all into the team. How they fit in and into what system I don't know, but they'd all make a big difference.

[Ronniekirk]

Massive game tomorrow.

We’ve got little excuse for where we find ourselves. We’ve not been particularly hard done by over the piece in terms of injuries, decisions etc. We’ve simply not been good enough.

That needs to change, and it needs to change tomorrow. If we lose tomorrow, I fear for us this season.
Bowie s injury is the hard luck story ,as he looked like the type of player that could win us games

[Paulie Walnuts]

Bowie s injury is the hard luck story ,as he looked like the type of player that could win us games

It’s one player who we’ve got adequate cover for. Every team gets injuries.

[Paul1642]

It’s one player who we’ve got adequate cover for. Every team gets injuries.

That’s one way of looking at it. Another way is that Bowie was briefly looking like being one of our best players, maybe even our best.

An injury to a clubs best player affects results for even the best clubs in the world with ridiculous squad depth.

It’s not an excuse for our poor run of form but it’s quite likely a factor.

[Callum_62]

That’s one way of looking at it. Another way is that Bowie was briefly looking like being one of our best players, maybe even our best.

An injury to a clubs best player affects results for even the best clubs in the world with ridiculous squad depth.

It’s not an excuse for our poor run of form but it’s quite likely a factor.No doubt Bowie looked good but it shouldn't make us nearly the worst team in the league losing 1 player

Hopefully we can kick start our season today with a good performance and more importantly 3 points

If we lose today thr pressure really starts to build

Feels like a massive game for us tbh

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[McGruber]

If we lose today Hearts will end up sending us bottom next week. A win today to get some confidence going and can see us taking that into the Derby and turning them over.

[He's here!]

If we lose today Hearts will end up sending us bottom next week. A win today to get some confidence going and can see us taking that into the Derby and turning them over.

Lose both (entirely feasible given our terrible start to the season) and there's a good chance we'll be looking for yet another manager.

[Ship of Hope]

I’m in Turkey.. anyone know if you can buy the game via hibs or du tv as a one off to watch the game? :flag:

[Donegal Hibby]

Lose both (entirely feasible given our terrible start to the season) and there's a good chance we'll be looking for yet another manager.

We might though is it not just as big a possibility that we WON’T lose them ?

[Bishop Hibee]

Over 2,500 fans going is great given our league form.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That’s one way of looking at it. Another way is that Bowie was briefly looking like being one of our best players, maybe even our best.

An injury to a clubs best player affects results for even the best clubs in the world with ridiculous squad depth.

It’s not an excuse for our poor run of form but it’s quite likely a factor.

It’ll definitely be a factor, as will hundreds of other things. It can’t be used as an excuse though as I said.

We can have no excuses for where we find ourselves. We’ve simply woefully underperformed. That needs to change today.

[Hibees1973]

Poor attacking just as much to blame, if not more.
Got to disagree.

A poor defence affects confidence throughout the team. The amount of errors made this season which has cost us goals is crippling.

Any decent/good side has a robust, solid defence which does not give away goals.

[Paul1642]

Got to disagree.

A poor defence affects confidence throughout the team. The amount of errors made this season which has cost us goals is crippling.

Any decent/good side has a robust, solid defence which does not give away goals.

In the league this season we have scored:

0
0
2
1
2
0
1


One goal tends not to be enough to win a game. We have only twice scored more than one goal, 1 win and 1 draw. The attackers are partially to blame. Against Motherwell we had loads of top end possession yet ended up going a goal behind.

Our goals scored is joint worse in the league with bottom place Hearts. That paints a picture. Goals against however is 6th best.

[GreenCastle]

We need to improve all over the pitch.

We have made changes in off season for new keeper and back line.

No co-incidence they looked the best against Rangers and we played well that day - but we still lost and Miller was possibly at fault.

We need to be harder to play against and score against. The goals against this season have been comical at times - dodgy pass backs - switching off at free kicks - long throws etc.

We also need the strikers and midfield to step up and convert / score out of nothing or our possession when in top.

That’s what a team is about. If we are disjointed we will continue to see draws or losses and questions will rightly be asked about team selection and recruitment.

[He's here!]

We might though is it not just as big a possibility that we WON’T lose them ?

Hopefully. But on current form that's all it is. Hope.

United winning today would not be a shock. On paper we would appear to be marginally better than Hearts but when you take into consideration our appalling derby record it wouldn't be a shock to lose to them as well. I'd take two draws now.

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It’ll definitely be a factor, as will hundreds of other things. It can’t be used as an excuse though as I said.

We can have no excuses for where we find ourselves. We’ve simply woefully underperformed. That needs to change today.

Based on the size of our club we're well below where we should be, but this squad has so far done next to nothing to indicate they're underperforming. They may just not be very good.

FWIW I think Bowie being out for most of the season is a valid excuse. He's the only player I've seen this season who made me think he had something a bit different about him. A potential game-changer type.

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How Cadden continues to start right wing is beyond me