Stuttering run-ups when taking a penalty

[SHODAN]

Hibs should be banning our players from taking penalties using this technique. They don't work.

[flash]

Hibs should be banning our players from taking penalties using this technique. They don't work.

To make it worse Butland starts to go that way before the ball is struck.
If Myko had lifted his head I reckon he could have rolled it in the other side of the goal.

[The Tubs]

They work if you're Neymar. I agree with Flash that he seemed to have made Butland reveal his side but didn't look. Mykola must have felt like a fanny.

[Unseen work]

Hibs should be banning our players from taking penalties using this technique. They don't work.

Think most penalty takers use a technique like this so they must feel they do work

Just looks bad when it doesn’t come off

[Hibernian Verse]

Think most penalty takers use a technique like this so they must feel they do work

Just looks bad when it doesn’t come off

They will practice them plenty, he just made an arse of it on the day.

[Gloucester Hibs]

Seen a screenshot of a Sevco player encroaching while the penalty was being taken; should it have been re-taken? Never know what to believe with the stuff you see on the likes of FB etc, photo could well have been edited.

[LaMotta]

Hibs should be banning our players from taking penalties using this technique. They don't work.

Agree, absolutely infuriating. Yesterday Myko did the same thing Liam Craig did against Hearts at Tynie in 2014 when he missed - started off way too straight then took a silly wee step to the side to change the approach before the stutter. Totally overcomplicating a simple process.

They are two of the worst penalties I've ever seen. Up there with Cummings V Dundee Utd in the semi and Mixu at Easter Road v Hearts in the 90th minute when the game was 0-0 and he chipped the ball over the bar.

[LaMotta]

Seen a screenshot of a Sevco player encroaching while the penalty was being taken; should it have been re-taken? Never know what to believe with the stuff you see on the likes of FB etc, photo could well have been edited.

He did encroach, as did a Hibs player on the other side. Only of relevance if they get to the rebound etc or influence play after the pen has been taken.

[Gloucester Hibs]

He did encroach, as did a Hibs player on the other side. Only of relevance if they get to the rebound etc or influence play after the pen has been taken.

Cheers for the clarification. The post I saw gave the impression that the encroachment alone should've been enough for a retake.

[LaMotta]

Cheers for the clarification. The post I saw gave the impression that the encroachment alone should've been enough for a retake.

:aok:

Still haven't seen anything conclusive that confirms if Butland's foot was on the line or not. Was really tight there, but more of a shout there potentially.

[He's here!]

Agree, absolutely infuriating. Yesterday Myko did the same thing Liam Craig did against Hearts at Tynie in 2014 when he missed - started off way too straight then took a silly wee step to the side to change the approach before the stutter. Totally overcomplicating a simple process.

They are two of the worst penalties I've ever seen. Up there with Cummings V Dundee Utd in the semi and Mixu at Easter Road v Hearts in the 90th minute when the game was 0-0 and he chipped the ball over the bar.

Not as bad as Diana Ross...who went with the ultimate stuttering run-up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAKsGT9-XB0

But yes, I agree, just pick your side of the goal and strike the ball as clean as you can. These multi-staged techniques do my head in.

[LaMotta]

Not as bad as Diana Ross...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAKsGT9-XB0

But yes, I agree, just pick your side of the goal and strike the ball as clean as you can. These multi-staged techniques do my head in.


:hilarious

Lewandowski actually has a 95% success rate ( way higher than the penalty success average) since adopting the stutter and wait for the keeper to move routine. He has admitted to practicing it religiously though. If you are going to do it you have to get it right or you look like a plum as Myko did yesterday.

[Northernhibee]

I’d rather we go with power. If you go with placement and get it wrong, it’s a simple gather for the keeper. If you go with power then he might fumble or it might rebound to one of our players.

It’s not sexy football but it’s logical.

[MWHIBBIES]

It works if you do it right. He didn't.

Lewandowski been doing it for years. It certainly works.

[He's here!]

:hilarious

Lewandowski actually has a 95% success rate ( way higher than the penalty success average) since adopting the stutter and wait for the keeper to move routine. He has admitted to practicing it religiously though. If you are going to do it you have to get it right or you look like a plum as Myko did yesterday.

I think the overall penalty success rate in professional football is actually as low as 75%. Lewandowksi's obviously hit on something that works for him, but then he's on a different level to most. Harry Kane has, I think, close to a 90% success rate with nearly 100 penalties. Not sure if he adopts a stutter approach.

[erin go bragh]

Penalty as poor as it was should have been retook as Ranger player was inside the box before Myko hit the ball.

[Hibernian Verse]

Penalty as poor as it was should have been retook as Ranger player was inside the box before Myko hit the ball.

Hibs player (Obita?) was also in the box so negates any perceived disadvantage. VAR called it correctly.

[Cabbage-Patch]

It's ridiculous, you just look like an absolute clown when you miss it. Keepers are wise to it now. Put the laces through it. At least if keeper guesses right way still has a chance of going in or coming back for a rebound.

Understand folk saying it should have been retaken but the penalty was shocking. Really missed Boyler

[superfurryhibby]

Penalty as poor as it was should have been retook as Ranger player was inside the box before Myko hit the ball.

You should probably read the thread for clarification of the rules :aok::greengrin

[hibee-boys]

Why players don’t just fire it into one of the 4 corners at pace is beyond me, chances of keepers saving these, even if they guess right, is minimal. If I was Gray I’d be asking any prospective taker what their preferred technique is and if they don’t have the confidence to hit one of those spots at pace then it gets offered to someone else.

[erin go bragh]

Hibs player (Obita?) was also in the box so negates any perceived disadvantage. VAR called it correctly.

Picture i saw failed to capture Obita in the box.
Cost us a retake.

[hibee-boys]

I think the overall penalty success rate in professional football is actually as low as 75%. Lewandowksi's obviously hit on something that works for him, but then he's on a different level to most. Harry Kane has, I think, close to a 90% success rate with nearly 100 penalties. Not sure if he adopts a stutter approach.

Kane usually hits the ball at pace up into a corner of the net, no chance keepers are saving those.

[Lago]

As poor a penalty I've in many a while, sclaffed, no power and effectively a pass back to the keeper. In days gone by I watched Darren Jackson take penalties for Hibs, no messing hard, low into a corner.

[LaMotta]

Picture i saw failed to capture Obita in the box.
Cost us a retake.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record the fact either player was in the box is not relevant unless they influence anything after the pen is missed. Given Butland held onto the ball the encroachment from the hun didnt matter so its not a retake.

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[Donegal Hibby]

Not the best of penalties though the keeper goes the other way and nobody’s talking about it .. penalties are a bit of a lottery IMO .

[JimBHibees]

Hibs should be banning our players from taking penalties using this technique. They don't work.

They do work if you are good at it

[flash]

Agree, absolutely infuriating. Yesterday Myko did the same thing Liam Craig did against Hearts at Tynie in 2014 when he missed - started off way too straight then took a silly wee step to the side to change the approach before the stutter. Totally overcomplicating a simple process.

They are two of the worst penalties I've ever seen. Up there with Cummings V Dundee Utd in the semi and Mixu at Easter Road v Hearts in the 90th minute when the game was 0-0 and he chipped the ball over the bar.
It wasn't great but I must have seen at least 200 worse penalties.

[LaMotta]

It wasn't great but I must have seen at least 200 worse penalties.

Really?

There isn't really that much of a scale of terribleness on bad penalties, if its a shocker its a shocker, so I would say his and Liam Craig's def two of the worst, probably on a par with hundreds of others. Similar to most other other really bad pens. If it goes in its a good pen, and then you have one ones the middle where its hit ok and keepers guess the right way and save it which is just life.

Apart from Mixu and Cummings I'd struggle to think of many worse from a Hibs player, maybe Boyles over the bar v Livvy - remind me of some more and I'll concede I'm wrong!:greengrin

[He's here!]

Why players don’t just fire it into one of the 4 corners at pace is beyond me, chances of keepers saving these, even if they guess right, is minimal. If I was Gray I’d be asking any prospective taker what their preferred technique is and if they don’t have the confidence to hit one of those spots at pace then it gets offered to someone else.

Going for the top corners takes a lot of confidence due to obvious risk of hitting it over the bar but they're unsavable. One of the best I saw was Kamberi in the 5-5 game Rangers.

Tommy McIntyre used to just roll them in which also took a bit of nerve (especially in the League Cup final) and relied on the keeper going the wrong way. Worked well until (I think) John Martin guessed right for Airdrie and they knocked us out the Scottish Cup.

Blasting it down the middle is a better bet than the stutter in my view if you're not confident enough to carry it off.

[LaMotta]

Going for the top corners takes a lot of confidence due to obvious risk of hitting it over the bar but they're unsavable. One of the best I saw was Kamberi in the 5-5 game Rangers.

Tommy McIntyre used to just roll them in which also took a bit of nerve (especially in the League Cup final) and relied on the keeper going the wrong way. Worked well until (I think) John Martin guessed right for Airdrie and they knocked us out the Scottish Cup.

Blasting it down the middle is a better bet than the stutter in my view if you're not confident enough to carry it off.

Paul Hanlon took really good pens for us in shootouts - placed with power into the corner.

[Wilson]

Penalty as poor as it was should have been retook as Ranger player was inside the box before Myko hit the ball.

Nobody calls for a retake if we score and the player is encroaching. We'd be raging at having to take it again.

We shouldn't be crying out for second chances. Myko should have buried it.

[jacomo]

I’d rather we go with power. If you go with placement and get it wrong, it’s a simple gather for the keeper. If you go with power then he might fumble or it might rebound to one of our players.

It’s not sexy football but it’s logical.


The Mark Hughes method. “Just hit it as hard as you can.”

[Jim44]

Stuttering run-ups when taking a penalty - It pains to say it, but, ironically, this technique works very well for Tavernier. Then again, I suppose he gets more opportunity than any other player in Scotland, to perfect his technique.

[Cool_Hand_Luke]

Butland is weak low to his left…any penalty should have been put there. Keepers do extensive research on penalty takers…is any analysis done on keepers weaknesses?

[Clarence]

I feel like we have a pretty dire penalty success rate regardless of the technique.

[nonshinyfinish]

I feel like we have a pretty dire penalty success rate regardless of the technique.

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?368172-How-good-are-we-at-penalties

[JimBHibees]

Butland is weak low to his left…any penalty should have been put there. Keepers do extensive research on penalty takers…is any analysis done on keepers weaknesses?

Very good save down left to Kwons shot

[Musselbound]

It works if you do it right. He didn't.

Lewandowski been doing it for years. It certainly works.

I don't have any problem with it. There are numerous reasons for missing a penalty. Do we ban Panenkas next as they look worse if missed. If you get the stuttering run up right it's usually a case of rolling the ball into the empty net. Presumably no need to make your mind up beforehand like in the old days. Myko seemed to do a bit of both and was caught in two minds - one of the main reasons for missing a pen.

[HarpOnHibee]

Too many players who think they're Ronaldo, when there's only the one. Just ping the ball in the net ffs.

[nonshinyfinish]

Too many players who think they're Ronaldo, when there's only the one. Just ping the ball in the net ffs.

Famously there are two Ronaldos

[MWHIBBIES]

Famously there are two Ronaldos

:faf:

[Hibbyradge]

Butland is weak low to his left…any penalty should have been put there. Keepers do extensive research on penalty takers…is any analysis done on keepers weaknesses?

He saved brilliantly from Kwon, low on his left.

[hibsbollah]

They work if you're Neymar. I agree with Flash that he seemed to have made Butland reveal his side but didn't look. Mykola must have felt like a fanny.

It works really well for lots of players. The portuguese boy at man u that for some reason i have a mental block on his name, has it down to a fine art. It’s actually unfair on the keeper. You may as well just not move. Its up to us to find someone who can take penalties properly, whether its the stutter or whether you go down the alan shearer route of just smashing the leather off it.

[HarpOnHibee]

Famously there are two Ronaldos

I was referring to the good Ronaldo. Not the dodgy one who's too rich to ever see the back of a jail cell.

[PHeffernan]

Penalty as poor as it was should have been *retook as Ranger player was inside the box before Myko hit the ball.

Your not up to date with this seasons changes in the interpretation of the rules of the game.
Encroachment by players will now only be penalised if it has an impact. In this case it had none hence no retake.
A change for the better.

*retaken