Sean Rooney

[Callum_62]

Glad we didn't sign him

https://news.stv.tv/sport/st-mirren-player-shaun-rooney-charged-with-assaulting-woman-in-glasgow-city-centre-takeaway

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[Bridge hibs]

Glad we didn't sign him

https://news.stv.tv/sport/st-mirren-player-shaun-rooney-charged-with-assaulting-woman-in-glasgow-city-centre-takeaway

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Im glad we didnt sign him as I think he is guff

[Cat Stanton]

Glad we didn't sign him

https://news.stv.tv/sport/st-mirren-player-shaun-rooney-charged-with-assaulting-woman-in-glasgow-city-centre-takeaway

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In fairness, you/we know absolutely zero about what happened, and who started what, and whether he did anything.

He could be guilty of something. Or not. Presumption of innocence and all that...

[AugustaHibs]

In fairness, you/we know absolutely zero about what happened, and who started what, and whether he did anything.

He could be guilty of something. Or not. Presumption of innocence and all that...

Charged with assaulting an 18 year old woman and a hate crime against an 18 year old lad

[Jones28]

Charged with assaulting an 18 year old woman and a hate crime against an 18 year old lad

A hate crime? 'Kin hell.

[Just Alf]

A hate crime? 'Kin hell.A homophobic slur.


Allegedly

[MWHIBBIES]

Would imagine that's his relationship over if true. He was already punching.

[Tyler Durden]

So Rooney was out on the Wednesday night til early hours and then played on the Saturday against Hearts? Scottish football heritage attitude there, you have to salute it.

Also not defending the guy but he's been daft enough to make clear he's a Celtic fan. Probably doesn't help him stay out of bother when out and about in Glasgow. Assault could be as simple as giving a little shove to someone who's screaming in your face, so I wouldn't necessarily rush to judge him personally. Other than for sheer stupidity to be in that position as a 28 year old pro.

[RIP]

Shaun is by far the biggest thug in the SPL. Won't be any loss to the League.

[Since90+2]

As has been shown with previous accusations of definitive guilt before a trial been chucked around a few times on here, let's let the correct process play out before passing judgement.

[flash]

Not going to comment on these allegations but he was lucky not to get done for assault on the pitch recently when he blootered a Killie player repeatedly while the guy was lying on the ground defenceless.

[Callum_62]

Not going to comment on these allegations but he was lucky not to get done for assault on the pitch recently when he blootered a Killie player repeatedly while the guy was lying on the ground defenceless.Can't believe var looked at that and thought "carry on lads" [emoji1787]

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[Smartie]

Not going to comment on these allegations but he was lucky not to get done for assault on the pitch recently when he blootered a Killie player repeatedly while the guy was lying on the ground defenceless.

That was a disgrace and I’ve been surprised more wasn’t made of it.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Glad we didn't sign him

https://news.stv.tv/sport/st-mirren-player-shaun-rooney-charged-with-assaulting-woman-in-glasgow-city-centre-takeaway

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Glad you know exactly what's happened...

[Callum_62]

Glad you know exactly what's happened...Why do I need to know exactly what happened to be glad we didn't sign him?

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[IFONLY]

Shaun is by far the biggest thug in the SPL. Won't be any loss to the League.Hear hear; one of the luckiest footballers in the history of Scottish football imo. Total no mark.

[lyonhibs]

Who?!?

[Pretty Boy]

That was a disgrace and I’ve been surprised more wasn’t made of it.

The editors of the national news outlets:

'See that incident at the weekend with VAR?'
'What happened?'
'Guy kicked out at another player a couple of times, clear as day and somehow the ref and both linesmen missed it and VAR decided no action was required'
'****ing hell sounds bad. Rangers or Celtic player?'
'Kilmarnock'
'Ahh. Well we have those stories about Kyogo's mum changing washing powder and Tavernier buying new trainers ready to go'
'Aye fair enough, will all blow over anyway'

[Billy Whizz]

https://www.stmirren.com/club-news/5603-club-statement-shaun-rooney

[MWHIBBIES]

:faf:

[overdrive]

Mutual consent - wonder if he's pleading guilty then.

Just read that he's the boyfriend of the tennis player Heather Watson. Quite random.

[JimBHibees]

Mutual consent - wonder if he's pleading guilty then.

Just read that he's the boyfriend of the tennis player Heather Watson. Quite random.

That does seem very random indeed

[Paulie Walnuts]

Just waiting on the posts asking if he could sign and play right now if we sign him :agree:

[HibbyAndy]

Can't believe he got away with kicking that Killie player TWICE and VAR never even batted an eye lid

Kin scandelous !

[Since452]

Could he play right now if we signed him?

[MWHIBBIES]

Could he play right now if we signed him?

No. And I wouldn't touch him with a ****ty stick.

[JimBHibees]

Can't believe he got away with kicking that Killie player TWICE and VAR never even batted an eye lid

Kin scandelous !

Agree incredible decision

[Since452]

No. And I wouldn't touch him with a ****ty stick.

😉

[SickBoy32]

No. And I wouldn't touch him with a ****ty stick.

Holier than thou strikes again 😂

Decent SPL player who would improve us at RB imo

[MWHIBBIES]

Holier than thou strikes again 😂

Decent SPL player who would improve us at RB imo

I wouldn't have wanted him before this, crap player imo.

It's probably something quite serious for his work to have binned him. And as that has never happened to me, yes, I am holier than thou.

[eastmainsmsh]

Mutual consent - wonder if he's pleading guilty then.

Just read that he's the boyfriend of the tennis player Heather Watson. Quite random.

If we sign him there will be a racket

[HibbyAndy]

If we sign him there will be a racket

Only if he's game to come here.

[Since90+2]

I wouldn't have wanted him before this, crap player imo.

It's probably something quite serious for his work to have binned him. And as that has never happened to me, yes, I am holier than thou.

It was mutual consent, not sacked. As per the official statement.

[Just_Jimmy]

It was mutual consent, not sacked. As per the official statement.Probably along the lines of "resign or we'll sack you, oh you're leaving us then? Sorry to see you go"...

Happens all the time. No way he's mutually agreed to leave
Punted. Rightfully so cos he's a total thug.

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Probably along the lines of "resign or we'll sack you, oh you're leaving us then? Sorry to see you go"...

Happens all the time. No way he's mutually agreed to leave
Punted. Rightfully so cos he's a total thug.

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:agree:

It’s much more convenient for all parties if there’s a mutual agreement to part ways. I’ve little doubt there was going to be a parting of ways whether Rooney agreed to it or not though.

[Centre Hawf]

It was mutual consent, not sacked. As per the official statement.

While you're not wrong I would hazard a guess that the case doesn't look great for him and St Mirren are happy to cut ties before it gets to it.

[Saint Hibee]

He wasn’t a great player , apart from when he was playing against us ….

[DarlingtonHibee]

He wasn’t a great player , apart from when he was playing against us ….

Isn't everyone 😊

[MWHIBBIES]

It was mutual consent, not sacked. As per the official statement.

Aye, so it was.

[Since90+2]

Probably along the lines of "resign or we'll sack you, oh you're leaving us then? Sorry to see you go"...

Happens all the time. No way he's mutually agreed to leave
Punted. Rightfully so cos he's a total thug.

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Doesn't change the fact he wasn't sacked.

And legally they couldn't sack him even if they wanted to at this stage as currently he hasn't been convicted of anything.

[Since90+2]

Aye, so it was.

I'm guessing you have no experience or knowledge of how employment law works but you are here to tell us otherwise.

I remember you barking on here that Mendy should be locked up and the key threw away before the right to a fair trial. I said at the time to let the process carry out as you are innocent until proven guilty in this country, but apparently he was 100% guilty.

And you were completely wrong.

[MWHIBBIES]

I'm guessing you have no experience or knowledge of how employment law works but you are here to tell otherwise.

So you think him and st Mirren, with no reason whatsoever, just decided, na, well terminate this freshly signed contract for a key first team player, when he's unable to play for anyone else for over 2 months?

Or he's in big trouble and this was the easiest way out for the club?

It's quite obviously which is more likely.

[Since90+2]

So you think him and st Mirren, with no reason whatsoever, just decided, na, well terminate this freshly signed contract for a key first team player, when he's unable to play for anyone else for over 2 months?

Or he's in big trouble and this was the easiest way out for the club?

It's quite obviously which is more likely.

He wasn't sacked.

[SickBoy32]

Doesn't change the fact he wasn't sacked.

And legally they couldn't sack him even if they wanted to at this stage as currently he hasn't been convicted of anything.

Curious as to why St Mirren felt the need to sack him for an assault charge? (No conviction (yet?) as you correctly state). Is this just a case of SMFC wanting to be seen to do the right thing, as this is where society is these days?

Thinking Stokes for example, was charged with assault (and indeed convicted with a suspended sentence) - yet wasn’t sacked or mutually consented from Hibs / Blackburn at the time (canny mind where he was exactly)

Our current club captain has been convicted of drink driving, but no mention of a sacking.

Just trying to get my head around which crimes are deemed acceptable for footballers to commit, and which aren’t.

[Since90+2]

Curious as to why St Mirren felt the need to sack him for an assault charge? (No conviction (yet?) as you correctly state). Is this just a case of SMFC wanting to be seen to do the right thing, as this is where society is these days?

Thinking Stokes for example, was charged with assault (and indeed convicted with a suspended sentence) - yet wasn’t sacked or mutually consented from Hibs / Blackburn at the time (canny mind where he was exactly)

Our current club captain has been convicted of drink driving, but no mention of a sacking.

Just trying to get my head around which crimes are deemed acceptable for footballers to commit, and which aren’t.

Posters on .net get to decide. No need for a criminal trial to take place.

[MWHIBBIES]

He wasn't sacked.

Great okay :faf:

St Mirren had found the easiest way to bin him. I dont think this is what Sean Rooney wanted, do you?

[surreyhibbie]

And on Keechback they are using the story to have a go at Hibs...

Rent free.

[matty_f]

Doesn't change the fact he wasn't sacked.

And legally they couldn't sack him even if they wanted to at this stage as currently he hasn't been convicted of anything.

They wouldn't need a conviction to sack him.

[Since90+2]

They wouldn't need a conviction to sack him.

It depends on the nature of what information they already have.

However, they may have been advised that sacking at this stage before a trial that he is eventually found to be entirely innocent could potentially leave them open to an employee tribunal for unfair dismissal.

Only Rooney and St Mirren will know at this stage how much information they have regarding the incident. My hunch is the advisors to St Mirren have said there possibly isn't enough evidence at the moment to dismiss, and an agreement between both parties has been reached instead. We also don't know any information in terms of the detail of the agreement reached.

Just to reiterate again though, on the information St Mirren have provided he was not sacked. That is the only thing we know to be a fact at this stage.

[Donegal Hibby]

Mutual consent , same way Lennon left Hibs .. just a subtle way for both parties to part company rather than highlighting it more by saying they’ve been sacked.

[Centre Hawf]

Curious as to why St Mirren felt the need to sack him for an assault charge? (No conviction (yet?) as you correctly state). Is this just a case of SMFC wanting to be seen to do the right thing, as this is where society is these days?

Thinking Stokes for example, was charged with assault (and indeed convicted with a suspended sentence) - yet wasn’t sacked or mutually consented from Hibs / Blackburn at the time (canny mind where he was exactly)

Our current club captain has been convicted of drink driving, but no mention of a sacking.

Just trying to get my head around which crimes are deemed acceptable for footballers to commit, and which aren’t.

Maybe the folk at the club don't really want someone who (allegedly) batters women in chip shops? Doubt they take into account what Hibs or Blackburn did with players 15 years ago when deciding what to do with their own club.

[Pretty Boy]

I doubt St Mirren would have went down this route if they weren't confident that their position was legally watertight. Equally I doubt Rooney would have accepted it if he felt he had a reasonable chance of vindication.

I've been involved in dozens of such situations at work down the years. Mutual consent or 'we strongly recommend you resign' is a pretty common course of action to avoid a sacking, often it's a preferred course of action for all parties. In such situations when legal troubles are involved there isn't always a need for a conviction, behaviour that may fall short of being beyond reasonable doubt in a legal sense could still be reasonably argued to have gross misconduct from an employers point of view.

Of course there is hypocrisy around why some players find themselves 'not sacked' and others find themselves actually not sacked but as Gordon Strachan said a few years back: there are no morals in football. If Rooney was a 30 goal a season striker then I think the outcome for him would likely have been quite different.

[Since90+2]

I doubt St Mirren would have went down this route if they weren't confident that their position was legally watertight. Equally I doubt Rooney would have accepted it if he felt he had a reasonable chance of vindication.

I've been involved in dozens of such situations at work down the years. Mutual consent or 'we strongly recommend you resign' is a pretty common course of action to avoid a sacking, often it's a preferred course of action for all parties. In such situations when legal troubles are involved there isn't always a need for a conviction, behaviour that may fall short of being beyond reasonable doubt in a legal sense could still be reasonably argued to have gross misconduct from an employers point of view.

Of course there is hypocrisy around why some players find themselves 'not sacked' and others find themselves actually not sacked but as Gordon Strachan said a few years back: there are no morals in football. If Rooney was a 30 goal a season striker then I think the outcome for him would likely have been quite different.

They have nothing to worry about in St Mirren's case as it was mutual consent. There is no need for it to be watertight as both parties have agreed to the course action, which is of course different to a sacking (which hasn't happened here).

We also don't know the terms of the seperation. I've previously seen settlements given that include 3 months pay to leave the business mutually. The business gets a potentially troublesome employee off the books for a reasonably nominal fee and the employee has a financial buffer to allow them to seek re-employment.

No idea if that's the case here but as St Mirren won't comment further nobody has any idea of what may or may not have been included in the agreement.

[matty_f]

I doubt St Mirren would have went down this route if they weren't confident that their position was legally watertight. Equally I doubt Rooney would have accepted it if he felt he had a reasonable chance of vindication.

I've been involved in dozens of such situations at work down the years. Mutual consent or 'we strongly recommend you resign' is a pretty common course of action to avoid a sacking, often it's a preferred course of action for all parties. In such situations when legal troubles are involved there isn't always a need for a conviction, behaviour that may fall short of being beyond reasonable doubt in a legal sense could still be reasonably argued to have gross misconduct from an employers point of view.

Of course there is hypocrisy around why some players find themselves 'not sacked' and others find themselves actually not sacked but as Gordon Strachan said a few years back: there are no morals in football. If Rooney was a 30 goal a season striker then I think the outcome for him would likely have been quite different.

I agree with this, it's also worth noting that Rooney, as an employee of under two years' tenure, would have very little comeback irrespective of St Mirren's decision had they chosen to sack him.

[USA_Hibee]

And on Keechback they are using the story to have a go at Hibs...

Rent free.

I get what you're saying but do you see the irony of this post. Why even go on there? 😁

[Since90+2]

I agree with this, it's also worth noting that Rooney, as an employee of under two years' tenure, would have very little comeback irrespective of St Mirren's decision had they chosen to sack him.

We don't know the terms of the contract, so that's impossible to say. Footballers contracts as we know are not your typical employee contract.

[McD]

I agree with this, it's also worth noting that Rooney, as an employee of under two years' tenure, would have very little comeback irrespective of St Mirren's decision had they chosen to sack him.



Also the possibility of a contractual clause relating to bringing the name of the club into disrepute, which an assault charge does

[Paulie Walnuts]

I get what you're saying but do you see the irony of this post. Why even go on there? 😁

:greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Also the possibility of a contractual clause relating to bringing the name of the club into disrepute, which an assault charge does

Bound to be something like that

[jacomo]

It was mutual consent, not sacked. As per the official statement.


Hmm… the extremely terse wording of that brief statement suggests it’s hardly an amicable parting of the ways.

[jacomo]

Holier than thou strikes again 😂

Decent SPL player who would improve us at RB imo


You’re at it, surely?

[tonyrougier123]

Cracking free signing. ✍🏻

[SickBoy32]

You’re at it, surely?

At what?

He’s a better RB than our current options - would you not agree ?

Sign him up.

[MWHIBBIES]

At what?

He’s a better RB than our current options - would you not agree ?

Sign him up.

He probably going to jail, and is a crap player anyway, so no, let's not.

[Bridge hibs]

At what?

He’s a better RB than our current options - would you not agree ?

Sign him up.Nope, he is garbage, theres probably better players in the pub leagues

[CentreLine]

Has he appeared in court yet?
It looks serious from the club reaction but until he does nobody can really speculate about details of what he may have done.
I suspect St Mirren have taken a considered position but who knows?

[overdrive]

Not a great time for St Mirren. Kevin van Veen has been in court on domestic abuse charges. Sounds awful what he’s been accused of. St Mirren have said they will continue to play him which is a bit weird considering they got rid of Rooney

Edit: they have now said they are leaving him out of the squad - I was originally going by their tweet which said he was available for selection.

Also leaving out Jaden Brown who has also been in court on driving charges

[Bridge hibs]

Not a great time for St Mirren. Kevin van Veen has been in court on domestic abuse charges. Sounds awful what he’s been accused of. St Mirren have said they will continue to play him which is a bit weird considering they got rid of Rooney

Edit: they have now said they are leaving him out of the squad - I was originally going by their tweet which said he was available for selection.

Also leaving out Jaden Brown who has also been in court on driving charges****ing hell its all kicking off there 😧

[CapitalGreen]

Not a great time for St Mirren. Kevin van Veen has been in court on domestic abuse charges. Sounds awful what he’s been accused of. St Mirren have said they will continue to play him which is a bit weird considering they got rid of Rooney

Edit: they have now said they are leaving him out of the squad - I was originally going by their tweet which said he was available for selection.

Also leaving out Jaden Brown who has also been in court on driving charges

While we give them extended contracts and make them club captain.

[Jones28]

While we give them extended contracts and make them club captain.

Oh ffs it’s been done to the death. Is there no room for repentance and rehabilitation?

[Houston7]

While we give them extended contracts and make them club captain.

While I can understand your comparison, Jaden Brown was not only found guilty of drink driving (which is a shocking offence on its own). He has been charged with a string of driving offences, committed after being disqualified.

[Hibiza]

Let he who is without sin : cast the first stone

[One Day]

Let he who is without sin : cast the first stone

OUCH..... Who threw that

[Silky]

Oh ffs it’s been done to the death. Is there no room for repentance and rehabilitation?

Not when it comes to anything Hibs these days. If we'd been sitting second or third and playing well this would never have reared its head.

[SHODAN]

There is a discussion to be had as to whether people employed in such a high profile position with a large fan base of children should be sacked if convicted of something as serious as drink driving.

Footballers get away with a hell of a lot as a result of having a very unique set of skills.

[Keith_M]

Let he who is without sin : cast the first stone


OUCH..... Who threw that



That would be me.


28231

[McD]

There is a discussion to be had as to whether people employed in such a high profile position with a large fan base of children should be sacked if convicted of something as serious as drink driving.

Footballers get away with a hell of a lot as a result of having a very unique set of skills.



:agree:


And, fans will twist themselves into all sorts of knots to justify, downplay or sweep things under the carpet if the perpetrator happens to play for their club and be deemed a good player

[SHODAN]

:agree:


And, fans will twist themselves into all sorts of knots to justify, downplay or sweep things under the carpet if the perpetrator happens to play for their club and be deemed a good player

Yup.

"But what about Boyle/Newell" was the number one comeback for anyone protesting MacKay's appointment, but actually - what, indeed, about them? Why should they keep their lucrative job when for the common person a conviction like that kills your career?

[BigKev]

Yup.

"But what about Boyle/Newell" was the number one comeback for anyone protesting MacKay's appointment, but actually - what, indeed, about them? Why should they keep their lucrative job when for the common person a conviction like that kills your career?

Does it? Unless you drive for a living I’ve never known anyone who’s been sacked for a drink driving offence. It’s certainly not a career killer. Stupid, irresponsible, embarrassing, yes. Career killer? Nope.

[matty_f]

Does it? Unless you drive for a living I’ve never known anyone who’s been sacked for a drink driving offence. It’s certainly not a career killer. Stupid, irresponsible, embarrassing, yes. Career killer? Nope.

I worked with a guy for a big bank who was jailed for drink driving and had his job kept for him.

[hibee-boys]

There is a discussion to be had as to whether people employed in such a high profile position with a large fan base of children should be sacked if convicted of something as serious as drink driving.

Footballers get away with a hell of a lot as a result of having a very unique set of skills.

“Unique set of skills” Don’t think that applies to anyone in our current squad…..unless you count masquerading as professional footballers🤔

[CentreLine]

In these days of social media there is a clamour to condemn that society hasn’t really seen since the days of street caddies and mob rule. Little information but big reaction.

If we look back at football, generally, there is a huge catalogue of heroes, of every hue, that we would be getting the pitchforks out for now. Major Hibs heroes included.

As with every walk of life, professional footballers reflect society. Society, in turn, has a legal system designed to deal with misdeeds. That system also allows for rehabilitation.

I’ll get behind any player who puts a shift in for Hibs. I don’t then have to, overtly, engage with how they choose to live their private lives.

[Donegal Hibby]

Van Veens contract rumoured to have been ripped up at St mirren and maybe another one leaving too…

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/24700666.kevin-van-veen-st-mirren-contract-ripped-up-court-appearance/

[MWHIBBIES]

Van Veens contract rumoured to have been ripped up at St mirren and maybe another one leaving too…

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/24700666.kevin-van-veen-st-mirren-contract-ripped-up-court-appearance/

Sacking 3 players before Christmas would be crazy.

[Donegal Hibby]

Sacking 3 players before Christmas would be crazy.

Horrible situation for a club to find themselves in though I don’t think they have been left with any choice with Rooney and Van Veen … certainly taken the right course of action so far .

[One Day Soon]

There is a discussion to be had as to whether people employed in such a high profile position with a large fan base of children should be sacked if convicted of something as serious as drink driving.

Footballers get away with a hell of a lot as a result of having a very unique set of skills.

We all dream of a team of Liam Neesons, a team of Liam Neesons, a team of Liam Neesons...

[flash]

We all dream of a team of Liam Neesons, a team of Liam Neesons, a team of Liam Neesons...

Are you taken the piss?

[Northernhibee]

Van Veens contract rumoured to have been ripped up at St mirren and maybe another one leaving too…

https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/24700666.kevin-van-veen-st-mirren-contract-ripped-up-court-appearance/

Van Veen confirmed away.