Jdh

[Donegal Hibby]

I see he played a full 90 minutes for the development side . Hopefully his injury ordeal is now behind him and he can get match fit to give Gray another option if needed…

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/long-term-hibs-injury-victim-clears-major-hurdle-with-90-minute-outing-4786329

[J-C]

I see he played a full 90 minutes for the development side . Hopefully his injury ordeal is now behind him and he can get match fit to give Gray another option if needed…

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/long-term-hibs-injury-victim-clears-major-hurdle-with-90-minute-outing-4786329

Pretty sure he's one of the players spoken about by MM we wanted rid and won't be involved with 1st team squad.

[Iain G]

Pretty sure he's one of the players spoken about by MM we wanted rid and won't be involved with 1st team squad.

There is a good footballer in there, if he can stay fit, not sure he is necessarily one for the outcast group.

[Nicho87]

Sadly heard this before it feels like

I actually don’t even think he’s close to starting if he was fit

Kwon and Triantis a welcome change and something different to midfield of recent years imo.

[JohnM1875]

He’ll be nowhere near the first team now you'd imagine. Probably get a loan somewhere in January and that’ll be that.

Kwon, Triantis, Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Campbell and Rudi all fighting out for three central positions.

[lyonhibs]

Will never play for us again, except in the direst of emergencies I reckon. Flattered to deceive most of the time and always a knife edge away from the next injury (it felt like, very happy to be proven wrong there)

[Paulie Walnuts]

Poor player who I’m presuming is one of those who’s been banished.

Hopefully we don’t see him playing for the first team again.

[Unseen work]

Wonder if he’d look to a championship team for a loan until January/end of the season to get matches played, prove fitness and put himself in the shop window

[Donegal Hibby]

Pretty sure he's one of the players spoken about by MM we wanted rid and won't be involved with 1st team squad.

Maybe ,though I would thought if we could have got him fit and playing they way he was at one time he’d have been just as good or maybe better a option than Amos or Levitt as a backup player .

[CMac1988]

No thanks. Had enough opportunities in worse teams when he wasn't injured and like far too many only showed up once in a blue moon. Another who gets better the longer they're out the team... Although that'd have him on par with Iniesta tbf! ;)

[Brooster]

Wonder if he’d look to a championship team for a loan until January/end of the season to get matches played, prove fitness and put himself in the shop window

Been trying to offload him all summer. He's not interested in moving or playing.

[1875Sean]

Maybe ,though I would thought if we could have got him fit and playing they way he was at one time he’d have been just as good or maybe better a option than Amos or Levitt as a backup player .

Levitt hasn’t been great but would still have him over JDH

[Baader]

Never understood what he offers us. Need better.

[Unseen work]

Been trying to offload him all summer. He's not interested in moving or playing.

Seems mental from the players point of view, you’d think with his deal running out a loan to prove he’s fit and got ability still would benefit him

[Carheenlea]

Always wondered if a move back to Ireland might suit him, but the season will be ending there soon.

We’ll only see him back in the first team should there be a real player availability crisis, and given the number of midfielders on the books that seems quite unlikely.

[Donegal Hibby]

Levitt hasn’t been great but would still have him over JDH

There was a point when JDH was here that he looked like a good player which was why he was awarded another contract…. https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/19/New-Deal-For-Jake-Doyle-Hayes/

When JDH was at his best for us I wouldn’t say there was a lot of difference between him and Levitt, certainly don’t think ones contributed more than the other ( might be wrong on that ) .

[McD]

He’ll be nowhere near the first team now you'd imagine. Probably get a loan somewhere in January and that’ll be that.

Kwon, Triantis, Newell, Moriah-Welsh, Campbell and Rudi all fighting out for three central positions.


And Levitt. And if we find a mccowan alternative that’ll be 8 midfielders ahead of him in the fight for a starting place or even on the bench.

[Hiber-nation]

Never understood why we signed him in the first place. A very average footballer.

[1875Sean]

There was a point when JDH was here that he looked like a good player which was why he was awarded another contract…. https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/19/New-Deal-For-Jake-Doyle-Hayes/

When JDH was at his best for us I wouldn’t say there was a lot of difference between him and Levitt, certainly don’t think ones contributed more than the other ( might be wrong on that ) .

Not sure if you have a soft spot for him as he is Irish, for me at the time I was surprised we gave him a contract extension, never felt he was good enough but now as we are midfield heavy can’t see him playing again for the first team even when fully fit

[J-C]

Seems mental from the players point of view, you’d think with his deal running out a loan to prove he’s fit and got ability still would benefit him

He's settled with his girlfriend and child and lives in the flats at Lawrie Reilly Way behind Easter Rd, on a good wage, why would he move.

[J-C]

Never understood why we signed him in the first place. A very average footballer.

I had never heard of him when he signed, a player Ross knew from his time at St Mirren, bang average and inconsistent.

[Donegal Hibby]

Not sure if you have a soft spot for him as he is Irish, for me at the time I was surprised we gave him a contract extension, never felt he was good enough but now as we are midfield heavy can’t see him playing again for the first team even when fully fit

I genuinely thought he looked good at one point and we had a decent player on our hands but it hasn’t went well with poor form , injuries and him being out for so long …

I won’t be unhappy if he is moved on though I do think that if we get him back fit why not have a look at him until the next transfer window , I don’t think he’d be any worse a option than Amos or Levitt from the bench and with him only having a year left on his contract he might feel he has a point to prove too .

[superfurryhibby]

[QUOTE=CMac1988;7774100Another who gets better the longer they're out the team... Although that'd have him on par with Iniesta tbf! ;)[/QUOTE]

Literally no one is saying that except you:greengrin

JDH has had a long term injury. It’ no surprise he hasn’t moved on, most teams are reluctant to buy a player who is on there way back to fitness. Surely this isn’t a hard concept to grasp?

I’ve no issues with guy. He tried hard on the field, wasn’t good enough and suffered an injury, apparently caused by our then manager.

[CapitalGreen]

I had never heard of him when he signed, a player Ross knew from his time at St Mirren, bang average and inconsistent.

He joined St Mirren 2.5 years after Jack Ross left.

[Libby Hibby]

He joined St Mirren 2.5 years after Jack Ross left.

Why let the truth get in the way of a good story

[CMac1988]

Literally no one is saying that except you:greengrin

JDH has had a long term injury. It’ no surprise he hasn’t moved on, most teams are reluctant to buy a player who is on there way back to fitness. Surely this isn’t a hard concept to grasp?

I’ve no issues with guy. He tried hard on the field, wasn’t good enough and suffered an injury, apparently caused by our then manager.

Shh... :D

You're right though. More of a reaction to the usual comments surrounding JDH but maybe that sentiment has faded. With that I'll fade away myself! :P

[Mark05]

Poor player who I’m presuming is one of those who’s been banished.

Hopefully we don’t see him playing for the first team again.
Paulie I don't think he is a poor player,just a average player. I remember I came up for the Ross County game were he scored that screamer a couple of seasons ago I thought he would push on ,he never did. Then again he wasn't the only one I hope he gets back playing again but I can't see it being with Hibs

[EdinMike]

Kwon and Triantis, to me are a perfect middle two. There’s room to add a third if we play 5 in the middle. JDH sadly wouldn’t be in my head for that addition.

[MWHIBBIES]

He joined St Mirren 2.5 years after Jack Ross left.

:faf:

[Unseen work]

He's settled with his girlfriend and child and lives in the flats at Lawrie Reilly Way behind Easter Rd, on a good wage, why would he move.

To plan forward for his career and family surely?

He’ll still get his wage regardless, but you’d think a loan to say Livingston etc in the championship would make sense for him? Same wage, playing first team football, not far to travel and puts him in the shop window for when his contract is out

[Springbank]

There is a good footballer in there, if he can stay fit, not sure he is necessarily one for the outcast group.

If there was a good footballer in there we would have seen it by now. How long do we give him? 75 years?

BIN!

[Hibernian Verse]

I had never heard of him when he signed, a player Ross knew from his time at St Mirren, bang average and inconsistent.

There's enough negative stuff around the player without making things up.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There was a point when JDH was here that he looked like a good player which was why he was awarded another contract…. https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/19/New-Deal-For-Jake-Doyle-Hayes/

When JDH was at his best for us I wouldn’t say there was a lot of difference between him and Levitt, certainly don’t think ones contributed more than the other ( might be wrong on that ) .

To be fair, he’d done absolutely nothing to warrant his new contract. A stupid decision giving such an average player a 4 year deal.

File him under the millions of other below par midfielders we’ve had.

[Paulie Walnuts]

To plan forward for his career and family surely?

He’ll still get his wage regardless, but you’d think a loan to say Livingston etc in the championship would make sense for him? Same wage, playing first team football, not far to travel and puts him in the shop window for when his contract is out

:agree:

There’s a lot more to football than just getting a wage and sitting on it.

If you play next to no football for 3 years, when your contract runs out, who’s signing you? Nobody of any note.

Like you say, if he went out on loan and performed well then he’d have potentially put himself in the shop window for a move to a decent team for another couple of years. As it is, he’ll likely be drifting towards part time football once his contract is up here.

[easty]

To be fair, he’d done absolutely nothing to warrant his new contract. A stupid decision giving such an average player a 4 year deal.

File him under the millions of other below par midfielders we’ve had.

Yep.

He signed a 2 year deal in the summer and we gave him an improved deal about 3 months into it. Very weird thing to do.

[JimBHibees]

Yep.

He signed a 2 year deal in the summer and we gave him an improved deal about 3 months into it. Very weird thing to do.

Absolutely bizarre particularly 4 years made no sense

[J-C]

He joined St Mirren 2.5 years after Jack Ross left.

Really, didn't know that, I assumed because of the connection Ross knew him.

[Tyler Durden]

Really, didn't know that, I assumed because of the connection Ross knew him.

From memory it was a player that Graeme Mathie championed, as he had a different profile to what we had at the time. Which tbf, was correct. It was the subsequent extension that was madness. If we'd just let his 2 year deal ride, I doubt anyone would blame the club for how it played out.

[Hibiza]

Poor player who I’m presuming is one of those who’s been banished.

Hopefully we don’t see him playing for the first team again.

10/10

[J-C]

From memory it was a player that Graeme Mathie championed, as he had a different profile to what we had at the time. Which tbf, was correct. It was the subsequent extension that was madness. If we'd just let his 2 year deal ride, I doubt anyone would blame the club for how it played out.

Was it a 2 year deal, then 2 added, I take it a big wage rise also.

[Smartie]

From memory it was a player that Graeme Mathie championed, as he had a different profile to what we had at the time. Which tbf, was correct. It was the subsequent extension that was madness. If we'd just let his 2 year deal ride, I doubt anyone would blame the club for how it played out.

I actually thought he started very well with us. There was in some ways justification to extend his contract earlier, but by the time the extension was done his form (and the team's) were very much dipping - so by that point Hibs might have been justified in letting things run on a bit longer on his initial contract.

No doubt that with hindsight the extension was a very bad move, and it could be argued that a few of the extensions around that time were questionable - JDH, Delf, Newell and Campbell all happened within a fairly short space of time and we've probably not got a great amount of positive first team end product for the outlay over the piece for those players (cue expected and tbh justified defences of Newell and Campbell from some posters).

[Donegal Hibby]

I actually thought he started very well with us. There was in some ways justification to extend his contract earlier, but by the time the extension was done his form (and the team's) were very much dipping - so by that point Hibs might have been justified in letting things run on a bit longer on his initial contract.

No doubt that with hindsight the extension was a very bad move, and it could be argued that a few of the extensions around that time were questionable - JDH, Delf, Newell and Campbell all happened within a fairly short space of time and we've probably not got a great amount of positive first team end product for the outlay over the piece for those players (cue expected and tbh justified defences of Newell and Campbell from some posters).

I thought he started playing well too which was why he got the contract extension , point I was trying to make was if he could rediscover the form that got him a new contract I don’t really think as a substitute he’d be any poorer than Amos or Levitt to have .

[Danderhall Hibs]

He joined St Mirren 2.5 years after Jack Ross left.

Love this - we need more fact checking on here. 😂

[Brightside]

Been trying to offload him all summer. He's not interested in moving or playing.

He just played 90 mins yesterday.

[Smartie]

I thought he started playing well too which was why he got the contract extension , point I was trying to make was if he could rediscover the form that got him a new contract I don’t really think as a substitute he’d be any poorer than Amos or Levitt to have .

He's had some very good games for us and tbh I like him as a player.

I do have reservations though - for example, I don't think it ever reflects well on a player when you hear stuff like he's not prepared to play or move. Players sitting tight on contracts tend to be a disruptive influence - and rarely tend to go on to be successes elsewhere. It's normally a start of a slippery slope for them.

He's a ******* footballer - he should be prepared to play football in front of crowds for his wages, not just train and go through the motions.

[Brightside]

He's had some very good games for us and tbh I like him as a player.

I do have reservations though - for example, I don't think it ever reflects well on a player when you hear stuff like he's not prepared to play or move. Players sitting tight on contracts tend to be a disruptive influence - and rarely tend to go on to be successes elsewhere. It's normally a start of a slippery slope for them.

He's a ******* footballer - he should be prepared to play football in front of crowds for his wages, not just train and go through the motions.

I think the not prepared to play thing simply doesnt stand up to any scrutiny. Hibs would be able to terminate him if that was the case. I watched him in the Edin City friendly and there was no sign of him holding back.

He is a player whose career has been ruined by a previous manager and if I was him I'd have sued the wee fud for potential loss of earnings.

[WestStandWillie]

Glimpses of a player there but his best performances seem to have been when his pals came to watch him.

We can do a lot better

[hibee-boys]

Glimpses of a player there but his best performances seem to have been when his pals came to watch him.

We can do a lot better

Performance’s’…..that would indicate more than 1😏

[Danderhall Hibs]

I think the not prepared to play thing simply doesnt stand up to any scrutiny. Hibs would be able to terminate him if that was the case. I watched him in the Edin City friendly and there was no sign of him holding back.

He is a player whose career has been ruined by a previous manager and if I was him I'd have sued the wee fud for potential loss of earnings.

He still got paid?

Would be good to see this being fact checked though.

[Donegal Hibby]

He's had some very good games for us and tbh I like him as a player.

I do have reservations though - for example, I don't think it ever reflects well on a player when you hear stuff like he's not prepared to play or move. Players sitting tight on contracts tend to be a disruptive influence - and rarely tend to go on to be successes elsewhere. It's normally a start of a slippery slope for them.

He's a ******* footballer - he should be prepared to play football in front of crowds for his wages, not just train and go through the motions.

I don’t know about the ‘ not prepared to play ‘ bit as there’s nothing for him to be gained by it and he has just played a full 90 minutes also .

The not moving , I can’t say I blame him as the last option he had was a move to Forrest Green , Forrest Green or Hibs? , not a decision you’d have to do much thinking about if you were a player fairness .

I think we aren’t in a bad position with him in he’s coming near the end of his contract and if he doesn’t want to move he will have to lift his game and give 100% from now till January if he gets a chance from the bench , Hibs are also in a good position as even if he did do enough to get a deal they can offer him a smaller contract…


I’m not saying we should keep him but we are in a fairly good position in seeing if he can rediscover his form by putting him on the bench in some games , again I don’t think having him as a sub as opposed to having Levitt and Amos as subs drastically weakens our bench TBH .

[Brightside]

He still got paid?

Would be good to see this being fact checked though.

Further or enhanced earnings obv.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Further or enhanced earnings obv.

He’s guff to be fair, he’ll never enhance the earnings he’s made at Hibs.

[worcesterhibby]

I don’t know about the ‘ not prepared to play ‘ bit as there’s nothing for him to be gained by it and he has just played a full 90 minutes also .

The not moving , I can’t say I blame him as the last option he had was a move to Forrest Green , Forrest Green or Hibs? , not a decision you’d have to do much thinking about if you were a player fairness .
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yes but it’s PLAY for Forest Green, or not play for Hibs, that’s his choice. He has chosen not to play.

[TrinityHFC]

I think the not prepared to play thing simply doesnt stand up to any scrutiny. Hibs would be able to terminate him if that was the case. I watched him in the Edin City friendly and there was no sign of him holding back.

He is a player whose career has been ruined by a previous manager and if I was him I'd have sued the wee fud for potential loss of earnings.

Still repeating this nonsense?

He hasn’t been out this long due to a tackle from a previous manager.

[Brightside]

Still repeating this nonsense?

He hasn’t been out this long due to a tackle from a previous manager.

Yes he has. It's all stemmed from the initial injury. It's a lot less nonsense than some claiming he doesnt want to play.

[Brightside]

He’s guff to be fair, he’ll never enhance the earnings he’s made at Hibs.

He's clearly not guff.

[Donegal Hibby]

yes but it’s PLAY for Forest Green, or not play for Hibs, that’s his choice. He has chosen not to play.

Has he been told he’s not going to play for Hibs again?

[Paulie Walnuts]

He's clearly not guff.

He is absolutely guff imo. An absolute nothing player.

[supermcginn]

He is absolutely guff imo. An absolute nothing player.

Agreed, he's a better player than Kenneh and Campbell but I'm quite happy we wont see him a Hibs shirt again.

[Brightside]

He was in the team photo today. Hopefully dispels the sent to "coventry" story, and we can look forward to him being an option when required.

[Since452]

I've always rated the lad. Hopefully available soon. Must have been some tackle by LJ.

[easty]

He was in the team photo today. Hopefully dispels the sent to "coventry" story, and we can look forward to him being an option when required.

Never. He'll never be required.

[worcesterhibby]

Has he been told he’s not going to play for Hibs again?

thats my guess judging by MM comments about players training away from the first team squad.. but it’s admittedly putting two and two together.. I have no inside knowledge.

[Paulie Walnuts]

He was in the team photo today. Hopefully dispels the sent to "coventry" story, and we can look forward to him being an option when required.

Is there anybody not in the team photo? If not then it doesn’t dispel it.

[Brightside]

Never. He'll never be required.

Can I bookmark this for when he is in the squad for the Motherwell game. :greengrin

[easty]

Can I bookmark this for when he is in the squad for the Motherwell game. :greengrin

We have differing definitions of required.

[Donegal Hibby]

thats my guess judging by MM comments about players training away from the first team squad.. but it’s admittedly putting two and two together.. I have no inside knowledge.

That’s fair enough . I suppose we’ll know before to long if he doesn’t make the bench .

[Cabbage-Patch]

Never. He'll never be required.

Kenneh was in the photo aswell. With Kwon, triantis, Campbell, newell and NMW ahead of them I can't see how either JDH or Kenneh feature this season.

[JohnM1875]

And Levitt. And if we find a mccowan alternative that’ll be 8 midfielders ahead of him in the fight for a starting place or even on the bench.

Of course, wasn't even being a prick, just totally forgot about Levitt.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Kenneh was in the photo aswell. With Kwon, triantis, Campbell, newell and NMW ahead of them I can't see how either JDH or Kenneh feature this season.

Interesting that Kenneh is in it. Theres absolutely zero doubt in my mind he’ll be one of those training away from the first team and it was alluded to earlier in the thread that JDH being in the photo is proof he hasn’t been banished.

I reckon the banished players are in that photo and I reckon (and hope) JDH is one of them.

[1875Sean]

Kenneh was in the photo aswell. With Kwon, triantis, Campbell, newell and NMW ahead of them I can't see how either JDH or Kenneh feature this season.

Don’t forget Rudi, Levitt and Amos are prob ahead of JDH too

[RIP]

Hibs are currently in the process of putting those players who are surplus to requirements in the shop window. Doyle-Hayes, Kenneh and Amos played in that game. There would have been scouts watching them with a view to a loan.

[DJ HIBBY]

I don’t know about the ‘ not prepared to play ‘ bit as there’s nothing for him to be gained by it and he has just played a full 90 minutes also .

The not moving , I can’t say I blame him as the last option he had was a move to Forrest Green , Forrest Green or Hibs? , not a decision you’d have to do much thinking about if you were a player fairness .

I think we aren’t in a bad position with him in he’s coming near the end of his contract and if he doesn’t want to move he will have to lift his game and give 100% from now till January if he gets a chance from the bench , Hibs are also in a good position as even if he did do enough to get a deal they can offer him a smaller contract…


I’m not saying we should keep him but we are in a fairly good position in seeing if he can rediscover his form by putting him on the bench in some games , again I don’t think having him as a sub as opposed to having Levitt and Amos as subs drastically weakens our bench TBH .

He turned down a move back to Ireland this summer at the last minute as well

[JohnM1875]

He turned down a move back to Ireland this summer at the last minute as well

To be honest I don't entirely blame him for that one. Be hard to get back out of the Irish leagues at his age and probably still wants to try and make a living here or lower leagues down south.

[DJ HIBBY]

To be honest I don't entirely blame him for that one. Be hard to get back out of the Irish leagues at his age and probably still wants to try and make a living here or lower leagues down south.

The team was in Europe though as well so he would’ve have European football as well.

[Brightside]

Kenneh was in the photo aswell. With Kwon, triantis, Campbell, newell and NMW ahead of them I can't see how either JDH or Kenneh feature this season.

Kenneh has been playing as a CB in the bounce games.

[McD]

Yes he has. It's all stemmed from the initial injury. It's a lot less nonsense than some claiming he doesnt want to play.



From 2 years ago?

[McD]

Of course, wasn't even being a prick, just totally forgot about Levitt.



Thought never crossed my mind mate, there’s so many centre mids it’s easy to forget one :greengrin

[Hibiza]

Jake . No disrespect but if you leave it'll free up a place on this board.

[Centre Hawf]

I have no faith that JDH will make an impact at Hibs this season. I hold no ill will towards him but I really just wish he left (along with a few others) and I suspect that in January he will. He hasn't delivered in any way since his contract renewal and his injury record has been atrocious to boot. File it under the dud category and move on.

[Unseen work]

I have no faith that JDH will make an impact at Hibs this season. I hold no ill will towards him but I really just wish he left (along with a few others) and I suspect that in January he will. He hasn't delivered in any way since his contract renewal and his injury record has been atrocious to boot. File it under the dud category and move on.

I think it’s harsh to call JDH a dud.

A decent enough player and has been unlucky with injuries.

With the right balance and midfield he’s a good midfielder in this league

Wish him all the best when he moves on

[blackpoolhibs]

I think it’s harsh to call JDH a dud.

A decent enough player and has been unlucky with injuries.

With the right balance and midfield he’s a good midfielder in this league

Wish him all the best when he moves on

Imagine building your midfield with him and Mcgenniss part of it? :greengrin

[Centre Hawf]

I think it’s harsh to call JDH a dud.

A decent enough player and has been unlucky with injuries.

With the right balance and midfield he’s a good midfielder in this league

Wish him all the best when he moves on

I really don't think he's decent enough at all. Since he signed his contract I've not come away from a game thinking "thought he was top drawer today" other than the time he scored the two worldies.

He's (probably) going to leave at the end of this season, if not sooner, having averaged 6 games a season over the last 3 years of a 4 year stay. It's as big a dud as you can probably ask for.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it’s harsh to call JDH a dud.

A decent enough player and has been unlucky with injuries.

With the right balance and midfield he’s a good midfielder in this league

Wish him all the best when he moves on

Not for me. Forgetting his injuries, he’s still just a fairly poor midfielder imo.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think it’s harsh to call JDH a dud.

A decent enough player and has been unlucky with injuries.

With the right balance and midfield he’s a good midfielder in this league

Wish him all the best when he moves on

:agree:

[Unseen work]

I really don't think he's decent enough at all. Since he signed his contract I've not come away from a game thinking "thought he was top drawer today" other than the time he scored the two worldies.

He's (probably) going to leave at the end of this season, if not sooner, having averaged 6 games a season over the last 3 years of a 4 year stay. It's as big a dud as you can probably ask for.

I think he had plenty of decent games. I actually think some of his best games for us were in the harder fixtures - Celtic, Rangers and Hearts. He always seemed right up for the battle in those games, pressed and got stuck in. He always seems to influence games against the others coming on as a sub by injecting some urgency with forward passing

My frustration with him came when he started against the others he never seemed to show the urgent passing from the off and at times games seemed to pass him by a bit.

But there is quality there.

He won’t play again for us by the looks of it, but he’s plenty good enough to play in this league imo. I think teams Killie, Dundee United, St Johnstone for example would want him, at least on trial

[California-Hibs]

He was in the team photo today. Hopefully dispels the sent to "coventry" story, and we can look forward to him being an option when required.

Look forward to him being an option? The guy has overwhelmingly shown in his limited appearances for Hibs that he is no where near the required standard and good enough. Hope he leaves Hibs as early as we can make happen. We need far higher standards.

[FitbaFolkKen]

Thought he looked excellent after first signing, got a new contract and then a bad injury and hasn’t featured properly since. Surely the best case scenario is he comes back hungrier, fit and keen to prove he still has it. It’s a short career for these guys so I don’t expect he’s wasting his best years deliberately.


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[Brooster]

I think it’s harsh to call JDH a dud.

A decent enough player and has been unlucky with injuries.

With the right balance and midfield he’s a good midfielder in this league

Wish him all the best when he moves on

Unlucky with injuries? 75% of his injuries have been in his mind.

[MWHIBBIES]

Unlucky with injuries? 75% of his injuries have been in his mind.

That right aye? :faf:

Are you the clubs doctor?

[Big_Franck]

Biggest wage thief we've had for a while. Clearly content to sit doing nothing while getting paid. He'll be back playing in Ireland after a short stint in English League Two after us I'd imagine.

[MWHIBBIES]

Biggest wage thief we've had for a while. Clearly content to sit doing nothing while getting paid. He'll be back playing in Ireland after a short stint in English League Two after us I'd imagine.

Id imagine he's doing everything the club have asked. Nothing to suggest he is being unprofessional or breaching his contract. Under zero obligation to leave.

[Centre Hawf]

I think he had plenty of decent games. I actually think some of his best games for us were in the harder fixtures - Celtic, Rangers and Hearts. He always seemed right up for the battle in those games, pressed and got stuck in. He always seems to influence games against the others coming on as a sub by injecting some urgency with forward passing

My frustration with him came when he started against the others he never seemed to show the urgent passing from the off and at times games seemed to pass him by a bit.

But there is quality there.

He won’t play again for us by the looks of it, but he’s plenty good enough to play in this league imo. I think teams Killie, Dundee United, St Johnstone for example would want him, at least on trial

JDH gets stuck in, fair enough to him, but his quality leaves a lot to be desired for me. He lacks zero goal threat, zero creativity in setting up situations for others, and even as a CDM I don’t think his tackling or reading of the game is actually good enough. He may well go play for a St Johnstone, but I can assure you he won’t stand out there if he does play.

Whatever flashes of a player we thought we seen 4 years ago hasn’t come to fruition and hasn’t contributed anything worth the money we’ve probably paid him.

[Donegal Hibby]

Biggest wage thief we've had for a while. Clearly content to sit doing nothing while getting paid. He'll be back playing in Ireland after a short stint in English League Two after us I'd imagine.

Horrible term ‘ wage thief ‘ that’s normally incorrect like it is on this occasion . Our club signed the player because they wanted him.

The player is just making is way back from injury and is quite entitled to expect the club to honour the contract ‘ THEY ‘ gave him ! .

[JimBHibees]

I think it’s harsh to call JDH a dud.

A decent enough player and has been unlucky with injuries.

With the right balance and midfield he’s a good midfielder in this league

Wish him all the best when he moves on

Agree just unlucky with injuries which you would have thought could have been sorted however ankles can be tricky things. Thought he was excellent in our last derby win

[JimBHibees]

Horrible term ‘ wage thief ‘ that’s normally incorrect like it is on this occasion . Our club signed the player because they wanted him.

The player is just making is way back from injury and is quite entitled to expect the club to honour the contract ‘ THEY ‘ gave him ! .

Of course he is and quite right too can’t think for one minute he is happy not playing during peak years in his career.

[Donegal Hibby]

Of course he is and quite right too can’t think for one minute he is happy not playing during peak years in his career.

He’s probably not though I don’t blame the guy for turning down the move to FG or a move back to the LOI , it might be a case that he’s settled in Scotland and waiting for a club like Motherwell , St Mirren etc to sign him once he’s fully fit in January.

[blackpoolhibs]

He’s probably not though I don’t blame the guy for turning down the move to FG or a move back to the LOI , it might be a case that he’s settled in Scotland and waiting for a club like Motherwell , St Mirren etc to sign him once he’s fully fit in January.

There's no chance he's signing for a better team than us.

[Donegal Hibby]

There's no chance he's signing for a better team than us.

I could see him at a club like St mirren , dundee or Killie who we can’t deny were better than us last season though .

[JohnM1875]

Can't believe there's a four-page on JDH in September 2024. More posts on this thread than he's had minutes on the pitch in
About 18 months.

Surely be away in January and that'll be that for his time at Hibs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

There's no chance he's signing for a better team than us.

I’d be very surprised if he gets a top tier team in Scotland.

I’d suspect once we eventually manage to get rid of him it’ll be to League 2/National League in England, LOI or the Scottish Championship.

[greenlex]

I’d be very surprised if he gets a top tier team in Scotland.

I’d suspect once we eventually manage to get rid of him it’ll be to League 2/National League in England, LOI or the Scottish Championship.

I wouldn’t.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I wouldn’t.

League Two player before arriving in Scotland, never a stand out at St Mirren where he only managed slightly over half the league games whilst there and then poor to average at Hibs whilst missing the majority of league games here.

On paper, he’d make very little sense for any team in our league to take on imo and it’s little surprise his options in the summer were National League in England or League of Ireland.

[Donegal Hibby]

League Two player before arriving in Scotland, never a stand out at St Mirren where he only managed slightly over half the league games whilst there and then poor to average at Hibs whilst missing the majority of league games here.

On paper, he’d make very little sense for any team in our league to take on imo and it’s little surprise his options in the summer were National League in England or League of Ireland.

He actually was a standout at St mirren which is why they wanted to keep him , of course opinions changed from fans when they realised he wasn’t going to stay .

Fickle bunch we football fans can be at times.

Personally as I said I can see him at a club like Dundee , Motherwell etc ….

https://www.blackandwhitearmy.com/forums/index.php?/topic/51065-welcome-jake-doyle-hayes/#comments

[1875Sean]

League Two player before arriving in Scotland, never a stand out at St Mirren where he only managed slightly over half the league games whilst there and then poor to average at Hibs whilst missing the majority of league games here.

On paper, he’d make very little sense for any team in our league to take on imo and it’s little surprise his options in the summer were National League in England or League of Ireland.

Agreed, surprised at the amount of people of think he would have been some player for us but due to injuries it’s stopped him, there was plenty of times he has been fit and in the bench, for me a bottom 6 or championship player

[Eyrie]

Agreed, surprised at the amount of people of think he would have been some player for us but due to injuries it’s stopped him, there was plenty of times he has been fit and in the bench, for me a bottom 6 or championship player

And plenty of times he's been anonymous on the pitch as well.

Occasionally Doyle-Hayes would have a good game but he was far too inconsistent to be good enough for Hibs.

He's fully entitled to stay on Hibs payroll until his contract runs out but I am surprised that he hasn't gone on loan to get game time which would help him to find a new club in the summer.

[jakeshibs]

He’s probably not though I don’t blame the guy for turning down the move to FG or a move back to the LOI , it might be a case that he’s settled in Scotland and waiting for a club like Motherwell , St Mirren etc to sign him once he’s fully fit in January.

JDH does not have the skill to add value to this league; he needs to go lower league try establish himself

[Donegal Hibby]

JDH does not have the skill to add value to this league; he needs to go lower league try establish himself

If players like Sam Nicholson ,Andy Haliday , Conor Randell and Jason Holt etc can play in this league then I think JDH can too .

[Paulie Walnuts]

If players like Sam Nicholson ,Andy Haliday , Conor Randell and Jason Holt etc can play in this league then I think JDH can too .

They’re all more effective players than JDH imo.

[blackpoolhibs]

If players like Sam Nicholson ,Andy Haliday , Conor Randell and Jason Holt etc can play in this league then I think JDH can too .

So is Kyle McGennis, but if he's never fit to actually play in said league, you'd be as well signing me.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Horrible term ‘ wage thief ‘ that’s normally incorrect like it is on this occasion . Our club signed the player because they wanted him.

The player is just making is way back from injury and is quite entitled to expect the club to honour the contract ‘ THEY ‘ gave him ! .

for wage-thief maestro see Larryea Kingston… now there’s an absolute wage thief.

[Brightside]

Biggest wage thief we've had for a while. Clearly content to sit doing nothing while getting paid. He'll be back playing in Ireland after a short stint in English League Two after us I'd imagine.

He will play for us next game if asked. People need to stop making stuff up about a player. He just played in a game last week. This place is bonkers.

[Lago]

I’d be very surprised if he gets a top tier team in Scotland.

I’d suspect once we eventually manage to get rid of him it’ll be to League 2/National League in England, LOI or the Scottish Championship.
You've certainly covered all the bases so good chance you'll get one right.

[JimBHibees]

JDH does not have the skill to add value to this league; he needs to go lower league try establish himself

Certainly has the skill just not available

[whiskyhibby]

Certainly has the skill just not available


No point in having a Rolls Royce in the garage if it constantly breaks down when it turns a wheel....... hopefully the medical and recruitment team have gained some valuable experience from the two st. mirren midfielders which we invested in for next to no outcome

[JimBHibees]

No point in having a Rolls Royce in the garage if it constantly breaks down when it turns a wheel....... hopefully the medical and recruitment team have gained some valuable experience from the two st. mirren midfielders which we invested in for next to no outcome

Don’t think Jake had any record of long term injury. Four year deal has been the issue

[whiskyhibby]

Don’t think Jake had any record of long term injury. Four year deal has been the issue


Agree but it depends how much we invested , the length of contract should reflect that

[Unseen work]

Anyone else get the feeling he might be back in the squad tomorrow?

Been in a lot of photos this week of the squad training, played a couple of dev games lately.

Anyone know if he featured in the friendly against St Johnstone last week?